My good friend of mine, A is an example of an alpha. Good physique, handsome, no fuck mentality and is confident with woman.
I overheard him arguing with another girl in school a couple of days ago and so I checked out what was happening. A told another girl, let's call her F that he's currently got several plates at his disposal (not in those words obviously but you get the drift). F was furious and told him what he was doing was "fucked up" and advised him to let each of the plates know what was going on. I suggested to A to continue with his life how it is.
Today I caught A looking like shit, feeling down and several girls were giving him a disgusted look. Turns out he told his plates that he was fucking more than just them and his plates proceeded to tell everyone within the school about how much of a fuck boy he is. Now he has not a single plate, girls look at him "disgusted" and is feeling depressed. Never take advice from woman, always consult with men first.
tl;dr alpha takes advice from a woman, he no longer has his multiple plates, girls give him disgusted looks and refuse to talk with him.
summersss 6y ago
he will bounce back. When someone, usually a girl warns another girl about a bad boy, her response is to confront that guy and set him straight, or recoil at the idea of some other girl, a girl who already slept with the guy, telling her to stay away. He will have a harem instantly. The best wingman, is a woman warning the girl you like to stay away.
plainposter 6y ago
such is life. when you care about other people's opinions, expect to get hurt.
meninistMD 6y ago
I think his attitude or feeling guilty is what put his in this shitty situation.
PantsonFire1234 6y ago
Lol wait girls are disgusted when a guy fucks around? Something ain't right here. They might be pissed at him but disgusted certainly not. Men spreading his seed is a sign success and thus attraction. Women throwing their womb around is a sign of low value and thus disgust. Also cucking.
Plating is simply to elevate the playing field vs women riding the cock carousel. Getting multiple wives is counter measure towards women engaging in group sex with multiple men.
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MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Shit test failed.
You certainly can tell women you fuck other women. It's often in your best interests to do so. But it's best if they don't all know each other, and it's best if you don't do a "beta confession". That's just telling her "this is wrong and I feel guilty" rather than "yes, of course I do, so what?"
How you do it... and the emotional spin you put on things... (ie frame) is fucking everything when you deal with women.
IDGAF FTW
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PantsonFire1234 6y ago
Even then they are faking it. They only feel more desire and competitive drive for him now that they know he has multiple bidders.
It's just that they don't want to pay the highest price, so they shit test him by ghosting him for a while. If he's IDGAF half of them will crawl back within the month and the other half will keep resentful feelings of alpha widowing for him.
TheIceReaver 6y ago
Yeah OP's advice itself may have contributed to him feeling iffy about it all and that comes across as shady when he's breaking the news.
Illicit-Noir 6y ago
Exactly. It sounds like he should have had them know he was fucking other women from the beginning and that none of them are special, they are just roster members than can and will be easily replaced if they aren't okay with being on his team. This goes back to the rule of always being honest, never lie. That let's them make the choice to either be mad and leave or accept his position and stay. When he does a beta confession and admits wrong doing he appears weak. Had he been honest from the beginning he never would have to fess about about anything as they would all know where they stand.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
More than half will stay if you do this shit right.
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It's utterly astounding how holding frame can turn an extremely negative or embarrassing "social fuck up" and turn it into a bold, alpha move. If you can outwardly shrug your shoulders and chuckle, even while inwardly feeling extremely anxious about your comment/actions people will almost always give you mad props. The shame from women is always two part - her words scold or shame, while her grin widens and she becomes attracted to you.
10/10 times women would rather be around a "rude" misogynist who confidently proclaims his views and opinion, then around a polite beta who never throws shade at anyone. In fact, they'll eventually hold the beta in contempt for his apperently "niceness" as they subconsciously know he is doing so out of lack of confidence.
And to add, alpha men will appreciate your honesty, as they'll use it as a self awareness tool; only beta pussies get mad when you give them shit for being beta pussies.
relativebeingused 6y ago
"Niceness" as opposed to real kindness is accurately seen as all of false, manipulative, arrogant and creepy. If not consciously, due to all the conflicting cultural messages that seem to encourage the facade, at least subconsciously.
It hints that someone is out of touch enough that they might believe they are entitled to sex because they hide their true feelings as some kind of altruistic gesture. That's mainly the creepy part (that women fear), but also largely the false and manipulative parts too.
The arrogant part is that someone believes they have the power to control other peoples' reactions to them and that people couldn't choose for themselves accurately who they like or are attracted to and act appropriately on those judgments if the "nice guy" didn't attempt to conceal his feelings and beliefs.
Ironically, this last part is actively, and self-defeatingly, encouraged by immature "feminists" who would prefer to only ever have to say yes, because they have an inappropriate reaction to someone positively expressing interest who they don't like. That is, they only want to have men who they are already interested in talk to them (e.g., through a cold approach) and can't reconcile that it's impossible for this to happen without also having to say no to other guys sometimes as well.
Unfortunately, there are so many of these kinds of women these days. They are vocal and have co-opted and abused the visibility that their predecessors worked for and now they dominate the popular discussion through various kinds of coercion.
But, we as men have to give women the benefit of the doubt, assume any given woman is not that kind of person and risk running into one, which is unavoidable, in order to meet those who aren't. Fortunately, they are practically children whose minds haven't kept up with their bodies and the harm they will typically do is negligible, if you protect yourself. Not being able to do so is just one consequence of a lack of confidence.
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[deleted] 6y ago
"arrogance is believing that one has the power to control others reactions to them."
This is a very good definition for arrogance. If confidence is saying "I can do it," then arrogance is saying "I can do it and you can't stop me."
FirstNamesMusic 6y ago
Lol yep.
For instance my good friend saw some chicks tits on Snapchat. His ltr flipped, instead of laughing at her ridiculousness he said he was sorry.
A multiple hour long convo ensued about how bad he was....
All I can say is HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
plainposter 6y ago
"bad dog bad dog bad dog!"
women are just pavlovian conditioning dudes with their attention and pussy. i'm a feminist.. i believe in equal rights.. so we should condition them like dogs as well :) equality for all!
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Weakness invites attack.
As one girl I was seeing said ... "I hate weak men because I don't like the woman I become around them".
GOODLORD100 6y ago
Wow that weakness quote is great
FirstNamesMusic 6y ago
I just don't see how clearly that was a shit test, and he missed it completely.
Sage619 6y ago
You should never apologize for the way you live your life. He was fine with what he was doing until someone shined the spotlight on it. If he would have taken a casual "Yeah, so?" or laughed it off, he would have passed. It shows he's confident in his decisions and lives his life on his own terms.
beta_no_mo 6y ago
This is precisely why I am up front when it comes up. It totally takes away the shame as ammo. I've only had one woman stop seeing me once she found out and that was because she was at the wall and gunning for "the right guy" to settle down with, which I had no interest in and I told her. No harm, no foul.
The others actually became even better plates because they were competing against the unknown.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Bullet dodged. Another reason to be honest about fucking other women - it filters out the provider hunters.
itsjustsimon- 6y ago
Don't tell them. Show them. Passive dread game is great, but telling with your words you're fucking other women is just stupid IMO.
evergonitenitenigga 6y ago
but in the event that they ask straight up 'are you hooking up with other girls' you say yes. but then again, this only happens after you fucked her senseless so now in her mind, should i stay and lose this or go find another guy..... MOST of them stay if not all.
alittletoosmooth 6y ago
Exactly. Had a plate ask me out of the blue while we were laying in bed..
Her: "are you fucking other women"
Me: something along the lines of "... at this exact moment? no obviously"..
Her: "cmon seriously"
Me: "yes, I am fucking other women.. why?"
Her: "Do you use condoms?"
Me: "three.. and one for each of my balls".
She slapped my shoulder, laughed, said something along the lines of "you're ridiculous".. and then nuzzled up next to me.
You don't need to lie, just keep the IDGAF attitude.
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
In that situation, I'd have immediately asked, "Why? Are you down for a 3-way?"
And the script...just got flipped.
evergonitenitenigga 6y ago
yes lol. almost having that vibe of 'duh of course i am' when saying yes you are fucking other women. i think i read it here where it goes "a girl would rather share and alpha than fuck a beta bitch"
djthiago1 6y ago
Funny responses to silly love questions. That's how you do it.
relativebeingused 6y ago
You passed but IMO it still feels like there's some kind of defensiveness.
First, a joke to deflect/change the subject, without actually answering, and that you know won't stop her from insisting on a real answer.
Then, when she asks about condoms it's like you are sort of reassuring her that you do use condoms by playing dumb and demonstrating that you know how they do work by pretending to do the opposite.
I dunno, it seems like you do sort of give a fuck in a sense, like you need validation that, according to her standards, you are being safe/responsible enough.
At the same time, being responsible and giving someone else the ability to be responsible is actually a good thing so I'm not sure the best way to approach it.
Thing is, if you didn't use condoms ever, it probably wouldn't make a difference if all you did was pass the shit test. It's not like she would stop fucking you because her rational brain suddenly took over.
So, I'm not sure answering honestly about that part about the condoms specifically accomplishes anything except giving her a little power over you and an additional commitment to her that you might not want to follow in the future for reasons. Basically, the way you answer that is for you alone.
For an extra degenerate response to the condom question, you can say, "only with you." And then when she's like "what the fuck's that supposed to mean? I'm some kind of ratchet petri dish of STDs?" - because she hears the insult first - you can double down the bullshit with an over-the-top, phony "it's just cuz I'd never want to hurt you, babe."
Then you can fuck her raw dog all you want because otherwise she'd be insecure that you're only wearing condoms to protect yourself from her. But, unless you really wanna talk a girl into getting an abortion you better make sure she takes birth control like clockwork.
Or whatever, if you prefer to safeguard your own health anyway it doesn't really matter.
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Shit, my ex found out I was cheating on her and asked me if I used condoms with other girls. I said that I've never used one with her why would I use one with other girls? She freaked the fuck out and it was hilarious. I laughed my ass off while she went to get some test done. I like to raw dog, it feels better and I'm not worried about her because its all about what I want. She tried to come back, I decided I was gonna fuck her last time, she asked me to wear a condom, I told her fuck no she knows I'm clean since she's clean and I fucked her raw twice in a couple hours, left and never spoke to her again.
badaod 6y ago
bad idea to leave birth control to her.
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Yeah dumb horny guy moments happen sometimes. I know the pullout method isn't 100% but growing up it was my most used form of birth control. I still use it from time to time, thankfully none of the many chicks have gotten pregnant that I know of. You have to admit that it's much more enjoyable going raw and sometimes I want the maximum pleasure for me and don't give a shit about her. I've taken a few chicks to the drugstore and purchased plan b and watch her swallow it
redpillschool Admin 6y ago
Now that everybody knows he's a "fuck boy" his preselection is through the roof. Time to cash in on this, it won't last long.
Only good things can come from this kind of preselection. It may look bad now, but report back in a few weeks. Trust me on this one.
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PantsonFire1234 6y ago
Exactly, the only way I can explain this is by saying all his plates are throwing a temper tantrum hoping he crawls back to them and them alone. None of them are actually disgusted with him like men would be with a slut.
I find it laughable when girls try to 'slut shame' me by calling me a 'fuck boy'. Their behavior screams heightened attraction and jealousy. Stupid betas who get into a lucky streak fall for this ruse and quickly drop the other girls, damning them to eternal beta hell.
It's one off the tricks they play.
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Look at all the hatred Hugh Hefner is getting now he is dead, about being a creepy old man, a pervert, a misogynist. Then remember that some of the hottest women in the world were sucking his dick at age 91. How long is it going to take before men understand that what women say is irrelevant?
victarionredwyn 6y ago
It would really depend on the relationships he had cultivated with them. If he was top Gunner who no one talked abt who he fucked that's one thing. But if he was building relationships with them beyond sex it might be hard to salvage.
JoRocKStaR 6y ago
Completely agree with this. Women have a tendency to blab about the guy their seeing in hopes to put him in a bad light causing not only pre-selection but curiosity in other woman. It's called the referral system. Even negative press is good.
redpillschool Admin 6y ago
Perhaps the moral outrage, or "referral system," has more to it than we think. Maybe it's a feature with a built in plausible deniability.
morexel 6y ago
Being seen as a playboy is almost a requirement for me to get attention from the hottest women.
evergonitenitenigga 6y ago
funny how that works right. lol i love double standards. when a girl is seen as a slut it has an opposite effect. unless she's ridiculously good looking then shit sign me up.
RPNietzsche 6y ago
I'm surprised you still hang around here. It's good to get some actual solid inputs every once in a while.
juliusstreicher 6y ago
He's in a good spot; I just hope he doesn't fuck it up with his moping.
majorbollocks 6y ago
So much truth. In fact he would be wise to keep the rumours going. Lol it's so funny how that works
[deleted] 6y ago
If only he can regain his frame, then yes. If he's sulking around, reacting in a shameful manner, it'll have the opposite effect. Those sneers are shit tests that he needs to agree and amplify until they pass.
grumpy_0ld_man 6y ago
Yup. All the girls "dumped him" coz their Slut Defence Mechanism told them to do so. They hamster however will spin ferociously, and they will have second thoughts about it.
Shit, they already do have second thoughts about it. It's just they have to wait not to look like... yes, a slut.
That guy will be drowning in pussy if he keeps his frame and continues as if nothing happened
Fedor_Gavnyukov 6y ago
fuckboy checking in. i still have no idea what the fuck that means, but ever since i've been called that by girls, their friends can't wait to suck me off.
freshaf69 6y ago
Ive had this happen a bunch of times.
Looking like the fuck boy and embracing it.. has been key
RedPillFusion 6y ago
This is absolutely correct. Preselection trumps moral turpitude every time.
PowergamesEnchanted 6y ago
Haha yeah, i always indirect make sure other girls get informed when i fuck a new girl. I mean, they just seem disgusted because all of the other girls are too. Same shit happened to me last year, now all the girls call me "such a player" golden reply; you've got a eye for talent. (SO to illimitable men for that one)
The_Gentleman_Thief 6y ago
Women want what other women have. Women WANT players, not sad sacks or pity cases. It's pretty much rule #1.
This is a good move by Alpha. They will project jealously towards the other women and compete for the alpha.
Women. Also. Love. Drama. Always.
They eat it up. They don't want simple, they want complex.
Every guy I've known that is moderately successful with women has blown up with tail once word gets out about their exploits to other women . Every single one.
trudenter 6y ago
Except from the story it seems like he is not holding his head up high. But even with that, he will get new girls (actually I wouldn't doubt the old ones also). He would have to royally fuck this up for this not to play out in his favor.
redpillschool Admin 6y ago
They'll play disgusted but if he starts chatting up a new chick they'll start fighting each other over him.
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Yep. Broke up with a girl 6 months ago. The day after I moved out, she texted and asked where I was. I said at the bar with Becky (an ex that she knew of). Got home. Mid fucking Becky, the girl I just broke up with knocks on my door. Que mid thrust stop fucking, walk to the door, in comes the girl (N) I just broke up with to yell at both of us, Becky standing there naked.
What did they do? They proceeded to fight over me for four months, each one at my disposal trying to earn me. In the middle of this I added a third to the table that found out about the other two. They all went around and around trying to be the one that keeps me. They ended up all finding each other's contact info and fighting back and forth swearing to each other they were all going to tell me to fuck off while all still trying to see me and duck me as much as possible.
This just ended, but by me. Got bored of it. I tell you what though. I barely went a day with out sex, many times two of them in the same day. I actually just need a break from fucking.
tskitz 6y ago
How did you meet the third plate? I feel everyone in this sub has a plethora of females to choose from
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Met her at work. She works in my building and I chatted her up in the smoking area.
Edit: It's not that anyone has more females to choose from. It's about taking the opportunity when it arises. Walk up and start a conversation. I'll walk up to a total stranger and do so.
RedPillFreedom 6y ago
Cucks Dream it. He Lives It!
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He doesn't sound like an alpha to me. All it takes is some woman to come along and say "that's fucked up" for him to lose it all.
An alpha isn't defined by the volume of pussy he gets. It's his attitude, which in turn generates the pussy.
There exists attractive betas who find themselves consistently one-hitter-quitters for women. It seems to me more likely this is closer to the case with your friend.
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Girls don't care, he failed the "we don't like player boys" shit test.
Shadowslight3x 6y ago
What is the appropriate way to handle that test?
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Tell them you want to add them to your collection of sex slaves in your sex dungeon at home.
Sir_Distic 6y ago
The same way you handle every shit test.
Own. Your. Shit.
Own it with confidence, unapologetically and a smirk. Winks are great too.
He shouldn't have argued with a woman. If he got called out heshould have asked her "why do you care so much? Do you want to join my team?" It shows he gives no fucks about some woman's opinion.
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1.Sure you don't (nod and smirk)
2.B-b-but I'm just looking for my soulmate!
3.Nice
MLG_Arcane 6y ago
Act like one, don't let her know that you know you are one.
daringdeviljackass 6y ago
"yeah I like sex with lots of different women so what" - attitude, stay confident and do what you always did, blatantly admit to any allegations with a cheesy smirk. If necessary use wit to derail any conversation on the topic. Since news are already out, you literally just cash in by obnoxiously hitting on any girl inquiring or commenting about it.
morexel 6y ago
Either say you are one in a ridiculously overt way, or ask her why she's so concerned with your sex life.
djthiago1 6y ago
Funny responses to silly love questions. That's how you handle it.
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ShakaLeonidas 6y ago
Never listen to women about what to do about getting your dick wet. Passively Listen to what they say about other guys they have HAD SEX with and Been in LONG TERM relationships with.
Take 50% of what they said and chuck it because it's bullshit and is only half the story. Discernment is necassary to pick out the nuggets of utility. Remember girls wana neutralize your dick or monopolize the sperm oppurtunities for the dick their actually bouncing on. That means undercut other female competitors.
Lastly understand nothing happens in a vacuum. Most things are situational and reactive. Frame is fluid. Your frame should be dominate but it will not be dominate 24/7 every interaction. . 3steps in a 10 step pick up plan you have control of(right guy). 5 steps she has control of. You only need 6 total to get the lay. 2 steps are random(subjectively right time, right place).
Relax a little in these interactions with women. Stop over analyzing every thing they say.
NitricTV 6y ago
Could you elaborate on this step thing?
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Drenmar 6y ago
>when you're supposedly alpha but you fail the most basic shit test
nickm205 6y ago
This. I mostly read and lurk, but 'Alpha' gets thrown around far too frequently here, and generally as a permanent state of being, rather than a transient position you are with a range of 'status'. Not an absolute.
sunbro29 6y ago
He fucked himself basically. Really didn't have to be like that
brinkleybuzz 6y ago
Hopefully your friend learned that if he's going to spin plates he better be discreet. His biggest fuckup was telling a woman his business. Discretion is important because women don't want to be viewed as a playboy's cumbucket by other people, especially in a tight-knit community like a school. The reason why he gets disgusted looks isn't that he was banging multiple chicks at the same time. They're disgusted because he opened his big mouth about it.
norcalguy510 6y ago
Girls lost plausible deniability wen F was outed. They cant be one of his groupie sluts to his peers, so instead they shame him. Like the EC said on his comment, only good things will come, i agree
Frenetic_Zetetic 6y ago
The second he lost his frame and came in feeling shitty, it was over. Mission failed.
He's actually got a better opportunity, but for a shorter window of time now. I guarantee he'll be getting some ass soon for "being a selfish fuck boy".
maplemaximus 6y ago
Always take advice from your father and your closest mate, not a female.
Desadarius 6y ago
That was retarded as fuck lmao
He took a giant shit and didn't expect the smell to come haunt him
I suck at metaphors
pullupsNpushups 6y ago
Wow, that's rough. Yeah, don't take that kind of advice from women for sure.
ozaku7 6y ago
Any advice from women is always in their own interest, either for themselves or their gender. They will NEVER think of the man first. Your buddy fell for the guilt trip and fucked up royally. Now this girl definitely feels like the saviour of a bunch of sexslaves to your buddy.
He deserved it, he listened and shouldn't.
scissor_me_timbers00 6y ago
I think his real fuckup was giving the wrong impression to each of those girls that he wasn't fucking anyone else. It changes the entire composure of the situation. It actually is fucked up if each girl he's fucking is being led on as if exclusive. But very different if not. And that's the only angle at which these girls have reason for disgust.
Illicit-Noir 6y ago
Bingo, if it isn't explicitly stated and mutually understood and agreed upon that you are exclusive with a woman, you are in no way obligated to be exclusive to her. In fact, if it isn't mutually exclusive I always assume the woman is fucking other people, weather she is or not isn't my concern. If they haven't entered an exclusive relationship he has every right to have sex with other women, and she does with other men.
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Exactly. Doing that is cheating. I'm very careful to make sure that plates know we are not exclusive because it's not fair otherwise. Women have cheated on me. I'm better than that.
Viking_RnP 6y ago
He handled the situation in a way that said to them "I did you all wrong." They are just responding naturally to his decision. This automatically put them in the place women love to be. A place without responsibility.
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It's all just words. Women aren't stupid. They knew he had other women. They just didn't care because they didn't have to talk about it. The conflict wasn't presented. There are a million ways to deal with these situations and he chose the one that made him the bad guy. Learn from that.
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Daddie0 6y ago
Not to worry, what I noticed years ago, when I was really blue bill, is that fact that when a guy got into a situation as you just described...
At first the girls will naturally look at him in disgust, and they all will talk about him. Then a few weeks months later the guy will be with some girl / women and you will be like "How the fuck did that happen?!" Remember watch their actions, not the words that come out of their mouth.
If I had to bet on a "nice guy" and a "bad boy (spinning plates and got caught) on getting laid, I would bet the fucking house on the bad boy.
Never understood this in my younger years, but it so obviously clear now.
GOODLORD100 6y ago
Sounds like the movie John Tucker Must Die. In the end the one girl that wasn’t with him ends up with him
no_face 6y ago
My guess is if he's still in school, he is no alpha.
Its not just experience, but you need to go beyond your teens for the emotional surge to calm a bit before you can think and act rationally.
10211799107 6y ago
Here we go again with the absolute definition of alpha. So many things this "alpha" did wrong that no other "alpha" will even bother with.
Arguing with a woman.
SoCalrissian 6y ago
His mistake wasn't "taking womanly advice" it was playing with them girl's hearts :/
Psynaut 6y ago
I think his mistake was showing he cared. if he played with their hearts, cause that's just who the fuck he is, and he doesn't know any other way to be, they will accept it. If he shows he feels what he was doing was wrong, which is exactly what he did when he confessed, then it is an opportunity they can latch onto to wrestle power and control away from him in the relationship dynamic and make him be bad, which is irresistible.
Imnotracistbut-- 6y ago
This is how i see it. The mistake wasn't to admit to hurting people for selfish pleasure, it was doing it in the first place.
Bigjohnthug 6y ago
I find this hard to believe. I don't think you're lying, but I can't even imagine this reality in the West. Casual sex is so ingrained into our culture I honestly just can't imagine being "slut shamed" in any context.
I've had girls who have been given 0 indication I'm sleeping with anyone else say "I don't want to keep seeing you unless you stop fucking around." It's assumed that if you're an attractive guy, you have a few girls on the go. I've had "the talk" dozens of times and never once had it end in any way other than mournful parting or grudging acceptance. Except of course the two times the girl and I became exclusive, but nothing even close to outrage or disgust. I've never seen a look of disgust on a girls face even when they saw me fucking another girl. Maybe your boy is a rat in other ways, spreading disease or some shit? Maybe he cried and gave a tearful confession? This is outside my reality to the point I can't even imagine a girl, let alone multiple, behaving like this.
Solon64 6y ago
America was founded by Puritans. Casual sex is socially VERY frowned upon (this is changing, slowly).
Here, if you arent in a committed relationship, or looking for one, the social outlook is that you're wasting time toward working on a family/white picket fence/2.5 kids and a dog, i.e. the "American Dream."
That dream died decades ago but society is only now catching up.
Bigjohnthug 6y ago
Really? Again, not doubting you, it's just so different to my experiences with 18-22 year old women in Australia/Europe. I would believe 25+ year old women might, but I've slept with multiple girls that are friends and never had a problem with it. The only time I ever got bad rep was when I had to tell three girls I might have given them the clap.
My most serious relationship (~2 years and we are still friends) I'd actually slept with three of the other five girls in the social circle first. She knew that and even saw me fucking two of them. Again, that idea is very different to my fairly extensive experience fucking girls and I'm having difficulty reconciling it.
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StinkyDogFarts 6y ago
Never kiss and tell. Bad form. Women prefer lovers who don’t advertise. That said, if a plate asks, be honest because your integrity is worth something.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
No problem avoiding DISHONESTY but if you think being HONEST to women or even showing INTEGRITY is helpful I have a bridge for you in Brooklyn.
RPAlternate42 6y ago
This will last 2 weeks at most. Then when the social required shock and disgust moves over the girls, thatey will have the knowledge that he is experienced, sought after, and a known ladies man.
This hurt him in the short run, but will work out in the long run.
dereko33 6y ago
Yes, mind games are good. Don't lie to women, but with-hold the truth as much as possible if you know it will enrage them. You don't need them to get in a tizzy. The less your plates know about each other the easier for everyone. Being an alpha is like being a polyamorous double agent, masquerading as monogamous.
lifestuff69 6y ago
If he owned it instead of acting depressed he would gain more girls pretty fast. Not the same ones because of ASD, but he needs to stop being a pussy.
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Something else is going on here. Women NEVER care if you have fucked a lot of other women when it comes to their decision to fuck you. It only works in your favour. I can't even count how many times I have been with a new girl, she has asked if I am a player, I tell her I don't like that term, but yeah, I've been around. Then her eyes glaze over with that "now I'm curious" look. Within hours I am up to my nuts in guts.
[deleted] 6y ago
Duh, cause a man who has a lot of sex is definitely good at it. Practice makes perfect and what better thing to practice? I've been balls deep in a lot of bitches that were "nice girls" and "disgusted" with my conquests, but they always end up wanted to get fucked by a man with experience. Shit, depending on the girl I'll disappoint the fuck out of her when I just rail her for 5 mins bust my nut and leave hahaha
[deleted] 6y ago
you don't ask a fish how to catch fish. why would you ask a woman how to catch women?
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
The bitch gave this advice deliberately thinking it would sabotage and hurt him. Only women are allowed to spin plates don't you know!
However, if he is really "Alpha" this can only work to his advantage. The girls who glare at him now will be slobbering his nobbin after a night on the town.
topapito 6y ago
Real alpha there. Can you kinda like, expand as to what makes this kid an alpha? He may not be a beta, and might have alpha traits, but he is more like a young lion cub. This is a lesson learned for this young cub, tell him to look for and take advantage of the silver lining this cloud will undoubtedly provide.
Yes, initial reaction from girls will be to shun him. Secretly, they are all wondering what he's packing and why he managed to attract so many of them. This will look bad until one brave girl will want to sample his goods, you know, for science, then it can snowball in his favor. Tell him to hold frame and stick to his guns.
djthiago1 6y ago
I wouldn't call him alpha. I'd call him lucky.
TheRecycledMale 6y ago
Tell the truth - the whole situation was created because he wasn't honest with his "plates". If he was honest, they would have known, and those that didn't have a problem with it, would be more than willing to be one of his "plates".
Just understand, women employ the herd mentality/shaming as a "tool" to keep other women in line within the herd. There is absolutely no way for a man to interrupt that process.
Your friend should be relieved and thankful ... he now has a chance to find a whole new bunch of plates. And why does he (or you) care if a bunch of girls call him a fuckboy and give him disgusted looks. Comes back to Who Gives A Fuck.
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More like idiot takes bad advise.
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Omnibrad 6y ago
If a woman knows that another woman wants to fuck a man (or already has) then deep-rooted group psychological behavior takes over and the original woman strongly considers wanting to fuck the same man.
Imnotracistbut-- 6y ago
This sub is helpful in some ways but its dark side is sociopathy. There is something to be said for not giving a fuck, but when you dont give a fuck about hurting others just to get their dick a bit wetter then that's sociopathy. Its rampant and in high regard here.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Almost all of it is key board jocky's overreacting to being a put down Beta all your life so when we say DNGAF we really mean GIVE LESS FUCKS THAN YOU ARE GIVING.
The problem for Terps isn't that we are sociopaths or psychopaths. The problem isn't that we don't care enough. Men have been defeated because WE CARE TOO MUCH NOT BECAUSE WE CARE TOO LITTLE.
Women use our protector and provider instinct to manipulate and control us so it is hardly a surprise they see TRP- advocacy for men to throw off the feminine control over our lives- as "sociopathic" (aka anything that does not increase women's power).
We need to listen to women a bit less and be a bit less caring. Some of us need to listen to women a LOT less and be a LOT less caring. Almost NONE OF US need to be MORE caring and solicitous of women.
The reason we are on TRP is because we have loved women and been shit on repeatedly. We have followed societies dictates and women's constant "advice to "listen with empathy" and "do date night" and "pay for everything" and have learned that women are completely and totally full of shit. They are a bunch of lying fucking harpies and NO MAN should listen to a SINGLE WORD women say about love, relationships or sex.
The whole lot of them are fucking liars. You need a bit of sociopathy simply to deal with that fact.
meaningintragedy 6y ago
There's no unique red pill rule for this, but most of the time you'd see people recommending on this sub 1) telling them you're not exclusive after the second time you sleep with them or 2) not telling them but never insinuate you're exclusive.
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BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Viva La Evidence proving beyond doubt how full of shit women are. They say whatever they FEEEEEEEL at the moment. ALWAYS translate what a women says by prefacing it with:
As in: "Right now I feel LIKE commitment to one girl/man is sexy"
Except this lie is so transparent I don't even think she really feels that way. Women spew lies like hot vomit so much of the time it is a wonder they can even breathe.
Sweetheart, 95% of women either divorce the man who "commits to one girl/man" or cut him off sexually within 2-3 years so....commitment is anything but "sexy" to a woman. I wish it were true. I wish women appreciated kind words and cooperative behaviors and reciprocated with sexual desire or at least some level of pleasantness. I wish women would talk directly some of the time and not continually play games with their sexuail availability and good company. I wish they didn't use sex as a weapon to carve out the heart of men.
I also wish Santa Clause was real but wishes are not horses, and we are done being a beggars on TRP.
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empatheticapathetic 6y ago
Despite this post being a thick discussion of how the intricacies of commitment and desire interplay, she thinks because she's a woman and she is on TRP, she can say whatever bullshit she thinks is correct/will get her validation and simps will flock to her. The very flair of her statement shows she hasn't thought about what she means for even a second and is enjoying the fact someone decided to take her question seriously.
The very theme of this post is about not taking seriously the bullshit women say. But her solipsism prevents her from thinking she doesn't apply to this. It's her job to separate the betas and the alphas and here she is doing that.
JFMX1996 6y ago
From what I've noticed, there's typically a disgusted phase when they find out.
Then there's the curiosity phase they get about you.
Then there's the phase where you graduate to fuckboy 2.0 and the taboo is worn off and you get them on you again, but better.
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thebadmanpuntdbaxter 6y ago
Best he can do is walk with his head high. the less reactionary he is to the hate the more attraction will swing back his way when the girls get bored
evergonitenitenigga 6y ago
hmmm funny. because i've always been 'honest' from the get go with my new plates. they all know that i'm fucking other women, or at the very least they know i COULD be fucking other women. most of them lasts a few months, the ones that drop off are the ones that starts to ask 'where is this going' or something like that, pretty much trying to make me their boyfriend. some of them are just totally cool with it, or at least they pretend to be.
ImmaBeAMod 6y ago
It's crazy, they'll really take any power you give them for no other reason than it's something to have.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Then they will use the power to further control and dominate any man in sight while howling "where are all the good men"?
ImmaBeAMod 6y ago
It's weird. It doesn't make sense to be angry with them because that's their nature but boy it sure gets vexing at times.
[deleted] 6y ago
How old are the people in this story? I've let my plates know in no uncertain terms that I'm fucking other women on several occasions when they've started to want a relationship. Most of the time I've carried on as normal with them for a while before they get too crazy. I've been called a player but it's only increased my smv.
xNightly 6y ago
Quite young actually, all 18
suske127 6y ago
Women will almost always tell you not to do. Most everything they tell you is simply to make you another Beta, and most weak ass men listen.
stephcurryftw 6y ago
Turns out he's not so Alpha after all.
biggerbetterjobs 6y ago
If he just told the girls in a confident manner that he's poly and non-monogamous sex positive and to stop kink shaming him he'd be fine.
Your friend's not alpha, he failed a very basic shit test. Being alpha doesn't just mean sticking your dick in lots of holes.. It means maintaining a frame of mind where you do you (with respect to other peoples rights and well being obviously) and being your unapologetic true self with confidence.
If he held frame, the girls probably wouldn't give a shit and keep fucking him/competing for him or apologize to him for not being able to continue seeing him.
Think about leftist protestors. Most of them are all about dismantling the patriarchy and bringing down "the man".. But what's going to happen when they finally do that? 95% of them probably don't have a plan or vision for rebuilding these structures. They just want to tear them down cause they're mad, acting emotionally, and thus fail to see the bigger picture. That daddy government actually supports a lot of pros for their lifestyle and without it they'll have to deal with a lot more cons.
Always know your worth and always stand up for what you believe in.
FuckMichaelMcCoy 6y ago
You cant discredit an alpha for taking one misstep.. thats ridiculous.
Powerful strong men make mistakes all the time.
Hillarysdilddo_2016 6y ago
Life will be better when we're sitting in drum circles with unwashed clothes, shitlord.
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SirKolbath 6y ago
Ugh. I try not to.
The only, and I mean only, reason anyone ever wants a revolution is because they are convinced that when the dust clears they will be the one standing on top of the rubble.
There is little to no evidence that these useful idiots will be doing so. Most of them don't have any desire to work, any ability to improve, or any real ideas for the improvement of society or themselves. They uniformly live in cities with food and water and shelter readily available and would last about three meals if that infrastructure were gone.
This is a very apt analog.
kokoke 6y ago
This is very true.
I have a friend who was plating multiple girls. Two of them were friends. When they confronted him about it, he just shrugged and asked them whether they have fun with him or not.
Guess what the women did?
They held a meeting between themselves and came up with a way to share him. Basically one would have him for 2 days and the other the next 2 days.
That shit completely blew my mind. He ended up plating them for a while before he met a bombshell 9 he's now in a LTR with.
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
I had a relationship with 2 roommates that started with me holding frame on then want me to pick one of them by saying "I want you both."
They negotiated out a very complex treaty abt whose boyfriend I was going to be at whose house (they were young and had parents and shit). It was a fun ride, while it lasted.
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xgozax 6y ago
Well I think it's possible to be alpha but then make errors at times and lose frame and fall into a beta state for a while.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Want to prove it?
Talk to the baddest, roughest, most "Alpha" dude you know- 6 months after the wedding.
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scammi 6y ago
Woman can give good advise, you need to have a good enough brain to know what kind of advise to follow.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Not about sex and relationships.
EVERY single woman tells their own son: "Oh honey, you just need to be yourself and when the time is right the right girl will find you."
NONE of them tell their sons they are hunters and women are their prey. NONE of them tell their sons to stand up to women (be NIIIIIIIICCCCEEEEEE because girls like NIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCEEEE guys). NONE of them will tell them anything that gives them an advantage. ALL of them are genetically coded to sabotage men's sexual strategy, including their own sons.
[deleted] 6y ago
Agreed but I don't think its team woman or anything nefarious
Women just are oblivious to their own prompts for sexual desires by nature's design
Skirtsmoother 6y ago
He totally deserved it. He is a liar and a cheater.
[deleted] 6y ago
Hah! It's easy to call someone a bad person out of jealousy or anger but it isn't easy to explain why. What makes this bad to do?
Skirtsmoother 6y ago
I'm neither jealous nor angry. I'm quite happy with my life, and if he has his way with girls, good for him. What I don't like are liars. He lied, he suffered the consequences. It's a bad way to treat human beings.
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No, it is your assumption that he is a liar. Be honest with yourself.
Skirtsmoother 6y ago
From this post, it seems like these girls didn't know about the other ones. If they did, and still decided to fuck him over, I stand corrected.
rajputnomad 6y ago
Woman is like a prostitute without per hour rate.