Yep, they keep saying equality they should act like an adult and buy their shit. Besides why risk being accused of getting a women drunk.

The entitlement on these hoes out there is just out of this world.

I used to work at an Italian restaurant/bar in NYC as a waiter. I ended up serving a group of post wallers a bunch of drinks at their request, complete with her food and whatnot. Bull added up to about $200 or so. There was a group of young bachelors at the bar, suited up, fresh cuts, nice watches, they looked like young success to say the least. Come time for the hoes to dip they ask for the check. I bring it over, and after seeing the bill the leader of the group asks me to walk the bill over to the group of guys at the bar. All this while having this mischievous grin on her face, with the rest of the girls acting like "ermergerd lol, she's going to punk these suckers lol emerged she's so bad". At the time, I thought it was weird and wasn't sure if I should even do it but then I remembered I only work there and that's not my problem. So I walk over, get one of the dude's attention, tell him that the bill I'm showing him is from the table of girls over there who asked me to walk it over to his group. He looked at it, looked at the table of hoes and said "Bruh give them the url bill lol". Low-key O was happy he wasn't a simp. But the best part is that the hoe in chief had this look of indignation on her face as she alternated between signing the bill with her card and looking at the group of guys who turned her down. Her face read "what a bunch of cheap guys, can't even foot my bill. Now they have me spending OUR money on the drinks WE bought... Urrrgh!"

I would only buy her a Rum and looks her up and down diet coke.

Biggie smalls Said

"Soon as he buy that wine I just creep up from behind"

It's hilarious because it's true. Losers buy girls drinks all night getting them drunk and the guy she's actually attracted to comes threw at the end and is the one she goes home with.

Covert contracts, nice guy 101.

Never buy drinks as an opener for chicks in clubs, but don't be a suspicious asper either.

If the night is off and running to where it is just part of the normal happenings of a club night, then don't go all autistic Ebenezer Scrooge on some chick who is into your game just to prove some TRP principle.

Women asking or requesting you to buy them a drink is most times a shit test. How you respond is up to you, but from my experience and observation of other alphas, look at her question or request as an invite or an approach.

Simple "no, nope or nah" replies are considered passing, but at a D or C level. Use this opportunity she gave you to increase your value with a more complex answer, or banter. Instead of replying with cold, basic remarks such as "no, nope or nah" which will usually result in the end of said interaction, reply with a witty remark or question. Some basic examples:

"Big girls buy their own drinks." "Do you not have a job?" "You looked more independent than that." "I don't even buy my girlfriend drinks."

If your quick on your feet, use something she's wearing as an excuse for her not having the amount of money to buy a measly $5 drink.

"No money for a drink because of those expensive ass shoes your wearing?"

She either bites or rejects you. Either way, money saved.

I was dancing and bumped into someone and spilled a girls drink all over the floor. Only then is it acceptable.

I've had women come in and sit next to me and say, "Would you like to buy me a drink?"

"Nope".

And then she asked the bartender for a free drink and he said, "Nope".

My take on it is this. If you have to buy things for a woman at a time when she should like you the most then what are you going to be doing later down the road when the "like" starts to wear off? What are you going to do when she hates you?

If she ain't paying her way and expects you to then she things you are a beta chump. Give in and buy her stuff and you've proven her right.

Cool. There are some relatively easy things you can do to get girls to buy you drinks in a fun and playful way:

Making bets. Just look around at patrons and you can make up back-stories for people and bet what kind of drink they will drink or observe some personality quirk and then predict behavior. It will get her laughing and it takes the focus off of you and her.

If you can reel her in with a story or some knowledge you have--some area of expertise.

STOP the story before the climax or the joke before the punchline

and tell her you will finish if she buys you a drink. A little storytelling goes a long way.

Boldness... Just plain brash boldness sometimes because ZFG

Guys with average looks can do very well with a tight frame and maybe some cool character quirks. Being high energy, positive and engaging works, but dark dread game can work too. The art of finding your style: well dressed vs fight club.

I will never understand why dudes buy women drinks. Step your game and be the guy girls buy drinks. The last 4 girls I’ve had sex with all bought me drinks within a couple minutes of meeting them. And they still do til this day.

Real men get girls to buy them drinks. Seriously. If you can get them to buy you a drink, you're going to fuck them.

I was at a bar one time. I was walking past going out for a smoke and a girl shoves a shot in my face begging me to take it because some guy just bought it for her. I took the shot and walked away. It was a good lesson for me personally. Girls don't always want you to buy them a drink and I seriously doubt it works often if at all.

Now SIL did this blatantly. She and a friend would dress up, hit the bar with my brother and between both of the girls all three (brother, SIL, friend) drank for free.

Never buy drinks to girls, feels like really beta behavior and it's a waste of money.

Pro Strategy

Buy 2 drinks in front of her, start chatting, or not. Slam both drinks in front of her, walk away and start dancing.

"He's so different thooooooo!"

I had a girl straight up come up to me and say "buy me a drink," once at a bar. I laughed and was just like you gotta be kidding.

The only time a random girl ever got a drink off me was when there was this buy one get on free offer at some bar. It was late and I did not want the other drink so I just gave it to the person right next to me, who happened to be female. If it was a man he would have gotten it all the same.

Buying drinks is okay, but its all about power dynamics.

If you are clearly above her and she thinks so as well, buying her a drink will increase comfort and give you less resistance. For me, this happens when I'm hanging out with poor college girls and I have a great job, interesting life, etc... You can become a beta bucks if you misread the situation though. If you're making 100k+ with lots of disposable income, who cares if you spend $12 on one drink.

If you are both seen as equals, taking turns is a good idea.

If it is a cold approach, she doesn't know you or she seems stuck up, don't buy drinks.

The only time you are allowed to buy a girl a drink at a bar is if she buys the first round. Or she's your wife

If she isn't interested, she isn't going to become interested.

Men, learn how to take a "no," please.

come on please let me get you a shot

This is the thinking of men who believe that a woman allowing you to buy her a drink means something.

I only buy drinks for chicks I've fucked and they still pick up the next round. I don't associate with users that just try to bum shit off people.

This happened to me once and the guy ended up buying me a drink as well. Then he said "fuck it" and got everyone in the bar a drink.

At first I told him he didn't need to, but he insisted and wouldn't take no for an answer. But in the end, everyone in the bar said cheers as we all took our shots.

And there has been plenty of other times when a guy would buy me a drink. Usually its when we are fighting to get to the bar tender and only one of us gets called. They end up buying me, my friends, or woman I'm with a drink and tell me not to worry about it.

I guess what I'm saying is, you sometimes have those people in bars that just loves to see everyone drinking and having a good time. But I get your point though, at this point it should be common sense to not buy women drinks that you are trying to date/sleep with just cause.

It's tagged "field report", so... did you fuck him?

EDIT: n-closed, at least?

Get her a bowl of Strawberry Smithies

I've used it as a conversation starter, but never with any intentions beyond that. Just because I buy you a drink doesn't mean you owe me anything for it, it was just meant as a kind gesture. I do it for all of my friends and drinking buddies. There's even one girl who frequents the bar I go to and we've just developed the habit of buying eachother drinks and sharing horrible, tasteless jokes.

Tl;dr: buying someone a drink isn't a bad or beta thing to do in of its self. It's the intent behind it and the behavior accompanying the act that can become really cringey or downright creepy.

And here's why:

Vacationing in mexico around 20-22 once, I met a stunner on the beach on convinced her aunt/uncle to let her run with my group of friends at the bars. On on way there she told me that her aunt didnt give her money and she was worried. I laughed and told her all about men and what to do. Walked into a bar, I pointed to two suckers and said those guys. These guys proceeded to buy her drink after drink and she would bring them to me and we would share. Eventually these two guys figured it out and approached me. Tried to start a fight, not really tho... more like, WTF dude. I laughed and told them all about how stupid they were for buying women drinks. I didn't fuck her, made two bar friends, and learned to never buy a single woman a drink that wasnt my LTR or a coworker or something friendly, certainly never thinking I was going to win favor with a woman.

He just ended up sitting in the corner smoking cigarettes at a cigar bar and staring at me the whole night.

Funny but this could have ended up as a news article "Man stabbed to death at local bar. Motive unknown."

Think I just vomited in my mouth a bit.

It got him some conversation with a girl, which to him was better than just sitting alone.

You should rephrase it to don't buy women drinks at the bar with any expectations.

Only time you buy drinks is if you take turns buying rounds. Otherwise, you're basically saying I'm not worth talking to.

You can buy drinks if you understand the dynamics it that guy had it all wrong. If you are picking up a bar fly it is important to understand the dynamics of buying drinks as that's what people do at bars. It's not about who buys the drinks it's about who is investing in who. If she is investing in you she will want return for her investment and will fall in your frame. An example from a few weeks ago I was in a Line at a bar. 2 hot girls where next to me in line I didn't need much attraction as they didn't want me they only wanted a drink Conversation started Girls, "can you buy me a drink" Me, in a fun way I made it awkward "your guys are such a hustlers your not my type" Girl. What... (long pause) Me. your to skinny. (Girl, Shy giggle) I turn away. ( in their minds I think they are think he is not going to buy a drink) I buy 3 drinks while drinks in my hand. "you hustlers owe me" hand over drink and walked off. (Didn't want them to walk off on me and give the impression I'm to important and busy) 15 minutes latter I'm talking to another chick and one of the girls tried to break up my conversation asking me to rescue her freind from the 4 guys that wouldn't leave them alone. Me. Na I'm not getting in a fight for you guys but i can handle myself, I will keep an eye on her, you will okay. Girl, is now orbiting me I ignore and do not make eye contact. Chick. Receives a text pulls out phone. I pull mine out show pick. Gives the orbiting girl the impression she asked for my number. Girl. Comes over and scares off the chick I was talking to. Me: bla bla. Girl makes physical mistake. "you need to slow down on the drinking if you can't handle it" (She is now in my frame) Girl: giggles yes I can. (She now has something to prove and kept drinking (in my frame) and every time she brought a drink she asked me if I want one I said "I've had to much to drink" (I have nothing to prove)

Now I have her invested in me and Have little invested in her. She repeats the question where do you live. When a girl repeats a question that means she is thinking (has feeling) about that. she wanted to visit my home....

I'm 38 20lb over weight. She 24 hot blond I don't even remember her name.

Anyway I've finished my shit back in red pill tomorrow. C u.