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LymanRP 7y ago
How can I flirt with coworkers without crossing the line? I'm not looking to sleep with any of them--I'm married and have just started flirting with girls again to keep my game fresh in the marriage. I don't have any qualms about flirting with girls outside of work and have been playing the 'catch and release' game, however in the workplace I'm afraid to do something that will cross the line and get me in trouble.
I currently work with a nice crop of attractive 23-26 y/o women. I am joking and playful in conversation, but am really afraid to do anything beyond that such as light kino.
What is the line when it comes to coworkers?
Smalejandro 7y ago
How do you properly internalise RP ideals. Like i know "its just my turn" but i still feel like i want her to myself. Or i know were all going to die and nothing we do maters but i still blush sometimes when talking to girls in front of her mates. Or i know that i should live in the moment and be present, but i still keep looking to what's next.
TitanLegion 7y ago
How can I start lifting? Like what's the best way to get into it? I can already do crazy leg stuff, but my upper body is useless - how can I change that?
caP1taL1sm 7y ago
Hmm, what's my best course of action when one of my plates is shaping up to be better than all my other plates.
Like we literally had the greatest sex I've ever had this past Thursday -- I hung out with a plate on Saturday where we had plenty of fun, watched my alma mater win in NCAA basketball, shared a hot tub together and obviously fucked in all kinds of positions, but most of the time I was thinking about the other girl.
How do you maintain plate theory while justifying the opportunity cost of being with more inferior plates than your favorite?
IAmDirtyBands 7y ago
My toughest problem is that I don't really know how to behave or speak/flirt sexually. Especially initially on the first approach. I always hear "talk to them like little girls" but in I have no idea how I would talk or interact with children (namely because there are no young children around me in my family/friend group/career).
Behaviorally and verbally, how would I go about doing this?
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My question here is kindof a long one but I'll make I'll try to summarize my vent here: how do I stop feeling the anger from being burned by my pre-redpill LTR?
Context for my story is on an asktrp thread I posted a minute ago (if you want context you can click it, I don't want to put a wall of text here if it's unnecessary).
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You're right man, I'm going to remember that one. Thanks
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Posting here because this is a new account so a stand-alone post will likely be deleted.
Two questions:
I. I know some women who I find to be genuinely cool people. They don't believe in feminism, they have no qualms about saying they like their men 'alpha', they will go to the bar/club with you and scope out their own dude to dance with, won't cockblock and usually will wingman for you, roll up with you, have intelligent conversations with you, All have been in long term committed relationships at some point at least once, yadda yadda yadda, you see where I'm going with this. From what TRP literature I've read these women don't seem to fit any of the descriptions of women. It feels like TRP doesn't make room for that type of girl. Can you guys explain this for me?
II. I like thick and curvy women. From the time when I was a twig of a 12 year old to the man I am now, I knew I liked thick thighs, large breasts, big butts, and child birthing hips. If it came with a little gut then I didn't mind. So long as the shape is pear, or hourglass, no matter how wide, how short, or tall, I dig it.
I won't say that I dig it all equally as it depends on my mood but it's clear I like my women with meat on their bones.
According to TRP philosophy, is that the result of some betaness or perhaps a result of some cultural differences (non-american black for the curious)? I personally chock it up to cultural differences being that my culture likes shapely women but I'm open to hearing another argument.
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ViolableOlive 7y ago
I just found trp, but am currently in a long term relationship. Most of this theory applies to simply attaining a goal but do you guys have advice for applying trp in a longer time frame?
icarusrex 7y ago
I just joined a men's group on FB in my local city. Eventually we'll do some discussion groups/meetups. So far it seems to be in line with RP ideology but its not (yet) inherent. I want to start introducing red pill concepts into the group without just linking to this forum or to Rational Male for example. What are some Redpill light ® sources or suggestions you can make to get started without forcing everyone over the deep end too soon?
Bear-With-Bit 7y ago
What does frame mean to you? Besides situations where a women is shit-testing you but you "don't break frame" what are some common contexts where I can practice maintaining frame?
randomperson123321 7y ago
The term "Frame", in the context of trp, is the way an individual interprets everything, consciously, subconsciously and unconsciously.
Holding "frame" means keeping true to your interpretation, even if others disregard it.
Breaking "frame" means disregarding your interpretation for one reason or another.
Changing "frame" means that you find flaws in your interpretation and you adapt accordingly, effectively evolving it, and yourself with it.
Breaking and changing "frame" may seem similar, though they are quite different in their core. Changing your frame is natural as you grow as a person. Breaking frame holds such growth back, in order to abide to an interpretation different to your own.
Different frames are everywhere around you. In politics, sports, cultures and essentially whenever there are opposing sides and even non opposing sides with "minor" disagreements and the likes.
In the end, you practice frame always, everywhere, every time, since you were born, until you die, either if you realize it or not.
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Its always about either her reputation or resource extraction, no exceptions. Sometimes the girl is getting side dick too.
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could be all of the above, or just a little, but who the hell knows
The main thing is that women get into relationships with betas for resources.
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Where can I find material on game and escalation for a total noob? I've read the sidebar and its pretty much entirely theory.
takethedive 7y ago
The Game by Neil Strauss will help show how PUA grew, where some parts of it began, and explain how some very early versions of Game were developed.
Models by Mark Manson will teach you uncomplicated, non-Machiavellian Game and help you begin to build a frame.
Bang, and the (even better) sequel Day Bang by Roosh V will answer the question you asked.
Understanding the flawed but groundbreaking steps that brought us to modern dark triad game culture will give you a lot of perspective. While largely practically useless these days, they'll encourage learning and introspection.
If you just want to read and execute, Bang and Day Bang are all the primer you need.
^^I ^^still ^^^use ^^^^Mystery ^^^^Method ^^^^^material ^^^^^^sometimes
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why isn't any of this stuff on the sidebar?
takethedive 7y ago
Because it's written by pickup artists for pickup artists. TRP is more, and different from, that culture.
PUA started when someone said "Shit, nobody wants to fuck me. I wonder how I can fake the behaviors of a guy with self-worth to get laid, and ditch the girls before they realize I played them."
This led to "I wonder if there's an easy way to distill this into a system more people can follow. People would pay thousands of dollars a week to learn how to understand women, I know they would."
TRP is "For men who seek to understand why they are the way they are and how to become the man they want to be, we are your male mentors to unravel the underpinnings of sexual strategy, gender dynamics, and show you the path to being someone who truly conquers and fakes nothing."
TRP is focused on teaching you how the gears spin, and relies on you going out and trying and failing and learning how to affect the gears on your own.
Bang and Day Bang are practical, logistical references for easy, consistent paths to follow to sex.
If you read the book and mimic and fake it, before becoming someone you're proud of, you're worthless, like a pile of shit spray painted gold. But you could still fuck low self esteem or damaged women, probably.
If you strive to grasp gender dynamics, AND read the books, they'll help you preemptively remove your sticking points, streamline your game, and help you create a style that's yours.
Not to mention, you won't be lying or faking anything, because you worked on you for you.
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I've been here for two years, been self improving for that same time. Due to my situation I was unable to even consider actually getting with a girl, but now that that has mostly changed I found myself almost completely incapable of accomplishing anything despite all those lifts and theoryreading. I think I failed almost three or four dozen times before I decided to start looking up game stuff. Its also worth noting that I still can't just go to a bar (1.5 years too young to drink) and start hitting on expressly available women, so I more or less have to conserve my limited amount of available women by actually being able to get with them instead of just trying and failing until my reputation is shredded and I run out of options for a while.
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ShiningConcepts 7y ago
What do you guys think of traveling to different cities, maybe getting a facial makeover, and using a fake name to be able to avoid social stigma and getting baby-trapped? I wonder, is this immoral or a perfectly viable strategy in our current gynocentric culture?
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ShiningConcepts 7y ago
I'm not interested in sexual activity, I just imagined this as a loophole for high-libdo RPers and I was curious what you guys thought of it.
And the family court system is the gynocentric conspiracy.
But I agree with your advice. The system is garbage, but if you wanna sleep around, either put up or shut up (or as I should say, put up or zip up).
pspman354 7y ago
How do I maintain attraction and frame in a relationship?
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takethedive 7y ago
Be the value you want in your life. If you're deficient somewhere, address the weakness and correct it. Don't look to add a woman into your life to balance you out, because she'll just make you forget about all of your weaknesses and reduce your motivation to be better.
"I'm on my own adventure, but you can come along for the ride" is one of the tenets I live by. This is YOUR story. She's just a supporting character, and while you're correct in wanting a woman who has value, if having a woman feels like "Bonus! Yeah! Look at how good my life is now!", you're not there yet, because you're making your happiness all about things that could be gone tomorrow.
Absolutely do not lower your standards for "experience". The best lesson will come when you realize you'd rather go home and read than go out with the gorgeous girl who invited you out, because she's a bit of a shithead and you don't want her to spoil your energy. That only comes from working on yourself, not chasing tail. And when everything you are flows from that source, the women will come.
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takethedive 7y ago
You still struggle to rid yourself of the most blue pill of concepts: that you're able to idealize someone who hasn't proven themselves to you. Are they loyal? Slutty? With you, under your leadership? Do they lie? About little things, or big ones? Under your leadership? You've no idea, yet the infatuation forms nonetheless, and that's the idealistic beta you're trying to excise.
You know what your weaknesses are already. The ones you gloss over or portray a little bit better than the reality -- the ones where if consulted, you'd know what someone else should do, but for YOU, it's "different" or your struggles are more "valid" than the other guy's.
I'm not saying you shouldn't chase tail, I'm saying chasing it for the sake of filling a void you could fill yourself will just lead to eventual anguish and stagnation. If you just want to fuck, go fuck. You're not stoic enough yet to totally detach, as you'll find out shortly after, but it's all a learning experience.
What is your purpose and ethos as a man? What gets you up in the morning? No matter the answer, ask yourself what kind of woman fits best into that purpose. Then, let each woman show you her true colors. Over months and years of being led by you.
Meditation will help.
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SteinyBoy 7y ago
I suck at closing and it sucks. Often times I can't get passed the part where the girl says something about her friends.
Sero-Flex 7y ago
What do you guys do when a "friend" steals from you? I've always been told to go to the police but I have no proof of who it was, only a few suspects. FYI the value of what was stolen is very inconsequential to me (<$100). However, the act seems more like an attack on my character in a way than one on my resources. Any advice would be appreciated.
takethedive 7y ago
Limit contact with the friend. Don't give them any chance to argue or explain, just let them wonder why you respond to texts once every three days and with one or two word answers. Keep them on the back burner in case they have a connect you need in the future. Never let them into anywhere they could steal from you again, nor do them any favors or lend them anything.
Let them stew in the guilt you never addressed, with no way of asking you if it's because they stole as doing so would be their confession.
yy89 7y ago
Hey guys. Recently having some success with picking up and banging. But this whole "holy fuck I'm banging this hot chick" thing in my head makes me cum pretty quick... how to handle this? Especially when the girls likes it hard and rough, and is getting off on it, that gets me over the edge really fast...
takethedive 7y ago
"I'm going to fuck you for my pleasure, not for yours. I'm going to come inside you as much as I want. You're my little fucktoy, and you can come when I say so."
Blow your load quick the first round, switch to oral, get her off a few times (and make her beg louder and louder for it), make her blow you until you're hard enough for a round 2, and after you've finished a few times, it'll be a struggle to get off faster than 20 minutes even if you tried. Added bonus being that after she's finished once, more orgasms happen much, much more easily and stack up.
The trick in this case is having sex consistently enough that you're not so horny you could finish in thirty seconds, and at that point, the unavoidable first round prematurity goes away indefinitely.
If you only go one round and kick her out after, it probably won't happen. If you have all night (which you should), don't be one of those chumps who goes 15 minutes and then falls asleep.
Get up, crack a beer, stretch your muscles, then grab her by the throat and have your way with her again and again.
Incidentally, hit it out of the park like this your first night together and the girl will imprint on you like crazy and become much more submissive in all things, not just in bed. There's something about those first impressions that never goes away.
Conversely, fuck it up and fall asleep after 15 mins, and no matter what you do afterward, she'll remember... If she wants to think "It just happened, he was so passionate, I couldn't stop myself", what do you think logically follows in her imagination? 15 minutes of boring sex? No, she wants you to fuck her all night like a fairytale. And failing means you're giving her needless hypergamous urges for any guy who wouldn't break the illusion, like you did.
GreenPiller 7y ago
I was reading about Frida Kahlo and her famous painting "Diego and I" caught my attention. Her husband Diego Rivera was a famous painter and womanizer, he even had an affair with a beautiful actress named Maria Felix. Yet Frida seemed to have an intense love for him. Is dread game the answer to a woman's true love? We focus on comfort tests and being stable guys with our shit together but maybe being the ultimate asshole thug is the key. I've seen abusive relationships where the husband was a total scumbag selling drugs and yet his wife was always there for him. Many of us never even get to experience a woman's "true love". Should we all just forget about comfort tests and use constant dread? It seems to work like a charm. What do you guys think about this theory? Excuse my rambling...
Bignmybrain 7y ago
What's the difference being the one girls can relax around vs. being the one they want but can't have?
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I think you're comparing apples to oranges.
SSJ_Trunks 7y ago
Need help with finding a job. Graduated with a business degree in 2016 from a well known school and good gpa, but 0 relevant experience in accounting/finance and still cant find work. I've tried networking applied to hundreds of jobs but I'm really struggling to get work as everyone wants experience. I'm willing to take an unpaid internship but nothing is working out at this point and I'm getting pretty depressed. Really just looking for advice on what to do at this point?
tylertgbh 7y ago
Are you using LinkedIn?
Keep networking and showing you're motivation/willingness to learn/work.
Try to show initiative somehow. Is there an area of finance that interests you? Maybe start a blog about it, etc.
The-os 7y ago
Have you been searching for bigger of smaller firms? I can imagine smaller firms might be more appreciative for some free labor. And have you tried cold approaching? Using your network?
dantroit 7y ago
I would say at this point, it might not be a bad idea to lie about your exp. I've don't it for multiple jobs. I've never felt bad and it worked 3 times for me so far.
SSJ_Trunks 7y ago
Thought about this, but if they ask details during the interview im screwed
tylertgbh 7y ago
Don't lie. I don't know what that guy's talking about, but it's likely an employer will expect references from those companies. You will also be asked about specific examples in interviews.
We_Are_Legion 7y ago
They're not going to arrest you if they find out you lied.
dantroit 7y ago
Yeah. I didn't think it would work the first time tbh and then when I changes jobs I just became addicting to overhyping my resume and lying. It hasn't failed yet. I fully encourage it.
firakti 7y ago
My ex-GF (married now to some loser) constantly writes in Facebook about how much she fucking hates me, giving my name blatantly. Our mutual friends are well aware of this bullshit. What the fuck do you guys reckon I do?
OneRedSock 7y ago
Save history of the shit she says (the stuff you notice, don't go out of your way to find this shit).
"But why the fuck would I save her shit if I am not supposed to give a fuck" you might ask. Sure, in reality, the shit she says has zero impact on your life; none, nada, zero, zip. It should have no sway on your frame and definition of who you are as a person; it literally has no real world repercussions. She is a drop in a sea of 7 billion people; she's a nobody.
HOWEVER, if for some reason she attempts to actualize her anger into threats against aspects of your life -- tries some twisted way to get you fired, tries to break up other friendships you enjoy, maybe at some point tries to retroactively accuse you of rape (yes, this is the world we live in), etc -- then when you are confronted with this situation, you simply say: "Oh, her? Yeah I think she may have issues. Here's some stuff that she's written over the years (exhibits A through C). And that's just scratching the surface!"
Whoever you're engaged with will immediately write her off as crazy. As simple and nice it is to simply say "move on with your life", the reality is that you need to always think of protecting yourself and always have a card up your sleeve.
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Sandman616 7y ago
Live your life, who cares what she does? You're done with her, her talking shit on Facebook says more about her than it does you. If people tell you about it, shrug it off and do you.
yomo86 7y ago
As long as she is not spilling the beans into your professional life the old adage of there is no bad PR applies. I had girls activly probing for my attention just because my old LTR kept rambling how emotionally damaged I supposedly am.
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what can you do? Ignore, move on
trulytrulyisay 7y ago
My guess is she hates her life now and feels a little regret for not having you. She hates that she misses you.
Sandman616 7y ago
I see what you're trying to do, but how she feels is irrelevant. He's got better things to do with his time than to think about how she feels.
What she hates is the fact that her lack of agency caused by her "feelz before realz" programming, solipsism, and hypergamy have led her to a state of discontent that she is incapable of getting through on her own, which is why she's acting out so she can be validated or "saved" from the "bad feelz".
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Block her
almostaristotle 7y ago
if she is writing it on her "fb wall", him blocking her has no effect.
The take screenshots approach is the best.
Delete fb and all is all RP sounding about "being alpha" and not fucking around on fb. But if you like you like it, so be it.
redpillschool Admin 7y ago
+1. Or, just delete facebook.
aaromalloyola 7y ago
I've fucked up big time in my university by wasting my time for the past 2 years.Recently,I've started lifting and reading RedPill material and honestly,by life has changed a lot.My depression has gone away,my severe oneitis is healing,and people have started to respect me again.
My question is : Already many people think of me a lazy guy,who is wasting his capabilities.How can I improve my social situation?Any former medical students here,who wasted time in the beginning and then came out big?
yomo86 7y ago
Not medical but law. I wasted the first two year because I had to work. In the end the situation is the same. I do well now. You could a) roll with the punches b) depending on your level of machiavellianism you could spin this into 'you needed to find yourself' c) new social circle.
I would opt for the later option. Most of the time you will see 95 % of the students never again after med school, so why bother? Focus on your studies, get new friends, be productive.
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kranos33 7y ago
If you ever get involved in facebook debate (better avoid it), but the best way to handle is:
"Interesting, I see your point, but this article is pointing out that those facts are a bit different:" And drop the link of an article that refutes their stupid points (usually the 79% salary gap drivel, or something idiotic like 25% of women are sexually abused), etc...
let the article make your point, and don't discuss it anymore, and not with emotions at least.
sadomasochrist 7y ago
"I'm not interested in politics, but it's great to see you're excited about {bullshit}..."
Then you'll get a grilling about "what do you hate women?"
Then AM\AA until you're dying with laughter.
Now if you're interested in politics, well... idk what to say. But as someone who did the politics thing for too long, let it go. None of it really matters.
It's honestly a sign of someone who hasn't yet got there if they're still caught up in a bunch of stuff they have little chance of changing outside of voting. You learn the political landscape to know how to act within it. Not debate it. Not cheer it. Not to change it. Simply to know.
And knowledge is for you.
yomo86 7y ago
I think it is garbage, you think it is garbage, my left nut itches thus it is garbage, your boss might also think it is garbage. But what everyone in power agrees upon is that the bigger garbage is going against the grain and stir the fish when nothing can be gained, except contempt.
SrPildoraRoja 7y ago
Law 38: Think as you like, but behave like others.
Greet women if you feel they'd like to be greeted.
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the only reason to be like that is validation seeking among everyone else, and backpats for being edgy.
Just STFU, no one cares if you think it's garbage
GoingTheHardWay 7y ago
What's a good way to get your feet wet cold-approaching women?
I'm in my early 30's and never learned how. Lost most of my game and social skills being in an LTR for 7 years - slowing getting more beta as time went on till I lost control of it and the relationship imploded. (the usual story).
Where the fuck do I even start? I tend to enjoy deep conversations and gravitate towards serious topics naturally... obviously not conducive to meeting girls.
Where does someone my age go to learn how the fuck to talk to people and women on a daily basis and actually enjoy it?
We_Are_Legion 7y ago
You need to read the Book of Pook.
When you are asking "what the fuck do i do", it shows you lack a identity and are looking for us to give you one so you can get girls to lick your dick.
I repeat, The Book of Pook. It will help you gain perspective, and build your masculine personality. Most of all, if you read it right, you can apply the ideas it gives you into your life as you read them.
Seriously, recommending this book solves so many problems for men I know(on TRP and outside) that it feels like giving advice on cheat mode.
Praecipuus 7y ago
First thing you need to do is to stop engaging in conversations with women as you would with men, ie looking for deep conversation.
Second thing you need to do is to understand that picking up girls is not much more than taking them for emotional rides. Talk to them as if you were entertaining a kid.
Name_XVII 7y ago
Why not try getting into as many conversations as possible and when you notice that you're gravitating towards a deep topic, focus on a physical aspect and turn that into your topic.
E.g. A woman just makes it onto a leaving a bus.
OP: close call, I know it's so trivial but when that happens to me I feel like I've won the lottery.
W: yeah thank goodness, sometimes something so small can make such a difference.
OP, instead of going into a profound discussion on the butterfly effect and then leading on into theories about the infinite possibilities in a multiverse, find something trivial yet unique about her and ask her about it. Say you see she's dressed up and carrying gift bags.
OP: yep you're telling me. So are you headed to, or from a conference?
W: what?! No. What makes you say that?
OP: oh my bad it's just you're dressed like a CEO who fires people for crimes against fashion.
She probably doesn't get whatever shitty joke you just made but swing until you hit.
W: lol, no I've just come from my best friend's baby shower.
From there get her to chat about herself and apply usual game. Don't be afraid to get rejected, this allows you to try as often as possible and be as experimental as you'd like.
I hope this helps.
do_it_or_leave 7y ago
RooshV's "Day game" has the answers you search for.
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do_it_or_leave 7y ago
I find reading more efficient to learn and get informed. But you are allowed to have your preferences, bro.
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sadomasochrist 7y ago
Amused. You chose a child to represent women? And you chose it to confront a symbol of the market and capitalism?
trulytrulyisay 7y ago
I feel a display of anger from a toddler/teenager that hasn't matured enough to understand basic life principles.
yomo86 7y ago
Feelings do not compute. No really, I thought about writing my feelings down here but then again TRP is no hug-box. Why would someone care what the hive-mind thinks.
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Like an adult around children. helps you spot the winners, so you know who to associate with
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You'll find everything is about your perspective. Mark manson is rather purple pill now, but his early stuff is still useful
empatheticapathetic 7y ago
Moved city and finally starting my life properly although a bit late. Getting over depression and working on health, career and other things.
There's girls I find attractive all around me and I want to start day gaming while the novelty of my new location still exists, but I just don't know what the fuck to say.
I don't have many friends in the city yet and spend 95% of my day alone before I start my new job so my social confidence isn't as high as it can be but when I get home I just think "fuck that girl was hot, what should I have said?"
CopyAndPaste2015 7y ago
Read day bang by Roosh, it will help.
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Name_XVII 7y ago
How can I subtly red pill my, liberal minded, super BP friends without om inerrant them or directly disrespecting their life choices?
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CopyAndPaste2015 7y ago
You don't, first rule of the fight club.
On addition, BP guys usually react badly to RP knowledge. They have to find RP when they are ready for it.
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L3gendaryBanana 7y ago
Lift heavy weights, squat, deadlift, bench press, weighted pull ups, etc. Follow a program like stronglifts or starting strength. Once that slows down switch to a Lol program or wendler 5/3/1 or some other well known program. Cardio is good for your heart, but lifting and your diet will make you look good.
takethedive 7y ago
Lift. Stronglifts 5x5 or Starting Strength. Put a goddamn barbell on your back and on the floor and in your arms and move it around until you can't. Next workout, add more weight and do it again.
Once you're lifting heavy, with good form (video yourself and be VERY strict, guidelines can be found all over the internet), you won't be able to add weight every workout anymore. When that happens, switch to a hypertrophy (bodybuilding) routine. You'll know exactly what this is once you get there, because you'll have done your own research and learned.
I'm not a personal trainer. Ask anyone else, you'll get 7 different answers. But this is what I did, and it worked for me.
Attacker879 7y ago
How do I cultivate leadership skills? Any recommendations of people to emulate? Ideas about how to slowly develop "leadership-like" qualities over time?
SlappaDaBayssMon 7y ago
Simon Sinek - Leaders Eat Last.
Great book, read it in like 2 days. He has a few TED talks on the matter as well.
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 7y ago
Read Dale Carnegie's work to help your people skills. If you're in HS or College take debate and argumentation. Also join a local Toastmasters group. These will help build your people skills in areas important to leadership.
Beyond that, practice when opportunities arise. Take charge in emergencies like a car crash, or organizing a ragged queue into an orderly line. My personal leadership preference is to be charismatic and make people want to follow; there are other times when authoritarian leadership is better, such as managing employees or subordinates.
almostaristotle 7y ago
I went to some toastmasters meetings.
It's all old beta uncles, really could not bond with them at all being 25.
And this is in India, just to help you complete that idea of old beta uncles.
murvish45 7y ago
Anyone else starting to think white women are a waste of time? So far ive found that asian and latina girls treat me wayyyy better and typically take the submissive role much quicker than white girls.
Also im 21 in college so the white girls are particularly stupid
Wondering if thats just me.
Name_XVII 7y ago
This reductive and short sighted. All women behave the same with variations occurring as a result of culture etc. If you're experiencing favour with Latinas and Asians it's due to the reality that white guy's receive an increased SMV from those women who favour them to their male counterparts. Going for women who will be easier can be beneficial when favouring quantity but can result in lowering your SMV.
From personal experience, those at the top of a social hierarchy are loathe to be with someone who is willing to settle - not that Asian women are anything to settle for but that they require less effort. Therefore a guy, with his SMV in mind, who is consistently seen with prestigious women is more likely to attract more prestigious women than a guy who isn't.
This appears racist but really has to do with historical socialisation. Just take a look at the online dating stats that reveal which demographic is favoured most by the opposite sex, white males are the consistent favourite across all demos.
When aiming to cure oneitis or simply aiming for quantity then head for whichever demo you have the most luck - sort of a beta move but it is efficient. Whereas if you're going for quality then white girls are not a waste of your time.
murvish45 7y ago
You seem emotionally invested lol. Literally asking if anyone has noticed a similar thing. Got no problem with any race.
As a college kid ive noticed that the white girls act more masculine.
ntrlusrnameisntrl 7y ago
Ive never had a problem getting with girls. RP has taught me how to more efficiently spin the plates once I have them. My biggest issue that I am hoping I can get some advice on is in regards to workplace dynamics and frame, and how to fit in amongst male friends a little better. Growing up, I didnt have a father to teach me how to become a man, and I spent a large majority of time by myself learning how to entertain myself.
Now, i have picked up a copy of The Way of Men, and have started picking up on a lot of how communication works - think gametalk vs. Powertalk. Ive started to learn how to utilize powertalk versus just deflecting. But, I still have trouble moreso with friend shit tests and workplace shit tests. Do I treat it the same?
Last year i finished #6 in the company in a sales company, on my first full year in the company, got promoted twice to a team leader position, but I am having trouble holding my frame within the company itself.
Ive been indulging in RP on a daily prescription which has been helping, but do any of you have advice or have been in a similar position?
I am looking to continue moving up the ladder, but I need to learn how to become a master manipulator in order to further myself, and that much i know.
Thanks in advance!
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zachjonesfitness 7y ago
How does one go about lifting for purely aesthetics or the aesthetic promoted here on TRP. Been strength training up to this point (335x3 squat, 205 bench and 415 deadlift.). But want to chase aesthetics. I'm 5'6" 150 lbs around 11-12% bf.
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Praecipuus 7y ago
Focus on becoming strong on the incline bench, pull-downs or pull-ups, overhead press and squats in a moderate fashion so that your big legs don't make your upper body look smaller. Those are the exercises that will put the meat where it looks good.
Then, get your bf down to below 10%.
zachjonesfitness 7y ago
So would a 5/3/1 progression on those work while I diet down to sub-10% bf? Also any specific diet you follow for that or would good ole CICO work?
Praecipuus 7y ago
I really like 5/7/8 reverse pyramid. It's a bit taxing on your joints though. Honestly, I think any progression model is good as long as you see progression with it yourself.
As to the diet, I do CICO with IIFYM since because it's easy to follow and you don't have to abstain from anything, it's not mentally heavy so you don't have cravings. Just make sure you track the total protein (1gr/body lb) and calories.
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zachjonesfitness 7y ago
In terms of program, I've been running 531 (bench, press, deadlift and incline bench) with 5s progression and 5x5 FSL, with bodyweight assistance exercises (chins, dips, push-ups, back raises, leg raises, etc.).
As for the photos: http://m.imgur.com/OMmxH6Q,790W03g,QijgzbX,JgVlZNu,Dzm5bBe,5twneib
Right now I'm thinking if continuing to run that with a caloric deficit for 12 weeks to shred down in time for summer.
I'm open to any and all suggestions for help.
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zachjonesfitness 7y ago
Realized I didn't upload a photo that showed legs.
http://m.imgur.com/6TOMxQk
As for the numbers I have videos of the lifts if you'd like to see them.
As for ppl could I keep the 531 on the compounds and just use the ppl as my accessory template rather than the body weight work?
Also thank you for the advice!
Do you recommend me to keep cutting?
Thanks!
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zachjonesfitness 7y ago
So I'd be better off eating at maintenance then while transitioning over to a higher volume routine?
Again thank you for all your help, really do appreciate it.
SmilingWatermelon 7y ago
Try to do hypertrophy at that weight or at least 80% of your max. Hypertrophy is where aesthetics come in. Isolation exercises are important too. Tbh I wouldn't come to trp for fitness advice. Just try the fitness sub reddit
Edit: also you don't need to be as strong as you are for simply looking good. So you're already ahead of the game.
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Regarding the first point, I'm around 25% BF. Just started doing PPL this week, but have been cutting my diet hard and been a lot more active in the last month to come down 10 pounds so far.
It says I should focus on losing fat rather than strong lifts. Does that mean I stick to the treadmill/bike rather than lift, or go lighter/go with less lifts and more "cardio". I'm going to the gym 6 days a week, and would still be losing weight due to my caloric intake cut even if I just potatoed around in bed all day.
n0nni 7y ago
Stay with stronglifts you're still new to this so you will still be building some muscle even when cutting you will get experience and better at lifting heavy weights and get stronger.
Also remember to still do the treadmill/bike cardio and keep up with the diet, in the end the diet is how you get a low %bf.
tempjewman 7y ago
Improved cardiovascular health has its own benefits, apart from allowing you to have a greater net caloric deficit. Excellent way to relieve stress.
Keep doing what you're doing, except create a more manageable routine. 10 pounds in a month seems ok, might be a little aggressive. 6 days a week huh? Depending on your routine, you may want another rest day. Keep in mind that stretching is vital. Injuries suck but happen. Stretching is your best preventative measure.
Being part of this sub means you are looking to improve your life. You are developing habits that will stay with you for the rest of your life. So you have to make it manageable. Good luck
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trulytrulyisay 7y ago
Try a more lean diet. You can theoretically maintain muscle mass while loosing body fat. Also as /u/SmilingWatermelon said, begin introducing hypertrophic lifts.
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Don't even worry about that yet. you have a good 30 pounds of muscle to put on.
IF you get big, keep the low BF, the aesthetics you talk about? 80% of the way there, worry about the small details once you are.
compound lifts, heavy and save, eat well and often
zachjonesfitness 7y ago
So should I be bulking rn then? I'm currently running wendlers 5/3/1 with bench, press, deadlift and incline press with BBB template and then a few accessories. As far as diet I'm just tracking macros for a cut just bc I was trying to lean down for summer.
Open to any and all recommendations.
Thanks!
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I've always had a simple, 3x8, 2 day split, or push/pull sytem. Now MRP advocates SL 5x5. Ask 5 people, get 7 answes.
Regardless, lift consistently, lift heavy, eat well. Whatever program you stick to WILL get you closer. Then just adjust now and again as you stall out.
I will say the main compound lifts should be your staple, whatever you do should be based around the squat, deadlift, press, bench, and chins
zachjonesfitness 7y ago
Got it, so as far as lifting I'll just continue with what I am doing. Thanks for the help!
general_derez 7y ago
As I get more familiar with RP concepts, I'm noticing that most of my old music I listened to growing up is really BP. It was one piece of the puzzle that programmed me to supplicate to females. So many love songs about doing anything for a girl, a girl being perfect, or orbiting a girl.
Any recommendations for "Red Pill music" to program myself better?
Livecrazyjoe 7y ago
There's actually a red pill music sub.
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caP1taL1sm 7y ago
Kinda have to agree.
Look up Tycho, he's fucking fantastic.
AlexIsOnFire11 7y ago
Lil' Dicky - Lemme Freak, Pillow Talk, Personality, and Who Knew.
Run The Jewels - Love Again, Oh My Darling, Stay Gold
^^^ Been listening to both artists almost every morning, especially if I know I'm having a plate over that night.
_avra 7y ago
I rly enjoy deep house,techno,dnb and occasionally trance. Psyches me up or calms me down. Perfect for every occasion
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kiekrzanin 7y ago
Hey, try listening to some alternative rock! Check out Queens Of The Stone Age - Smooth Sailing Band is awesome and this particular song will give you some good vibes you desire. Also check out Royal Blood, Foals, Arctic Monkeys
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19yoManChild 7y ago
"Stick to the plan" by Big Sean great motivation song and extremely relatable for TRP/self improvers.
general_derez 7y ago
I enjoy all sorts of genres, with or without lyrics. But I'm a singer and song writer so lyrics are very important and meaningful to me.
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Valid point, but some people take lyrics more to heart than others. You're right in that a lot of hip hop is really about self-empowerment and depedestalizing women, that's what I've been getting into lately if I need to really motivate myself and get myself into the right headspace.
A second thing you could do though, is listen to some bitchin' instrumental stuff, like Polyphia or Intervals. Good way to clear the mind imo.
SH3RL0CK3 7y ago
Snarky Puppy is dope as well!
abstractplebbit 7y ago
Holy shit polyphia is amazing
Billymazee 7y ago
Try to see them live if you get the chance. I saw them open for ABR and they put on a hell of a set; really good.
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Fulp_Piction 7y ago
You don't need reprogrammed. As others have said, listen to whatever you like and be aware of what you're hearing. Older music & hip-hop is generally less ridiculously bp than today's tripe. I notice a lot of rp truths in songs sung by girls though.
Edit: D'Angelo's Voodoo album for an actual suggestion. It's groovy/sexy af, and the musicianship and arrangment are fantastic.
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I'm surprised you listen to lyrics. Enjoy the tunes, use the voice as just another instrument.
general_derez 7y ago
I'm a singer and song writer, so lyrics are very important to me. The mind is programmed by whatever it is repeatedly engaged with, I'm just looking for some healthier input.
grlahmb 7y ago
Do not stop listening to music you like. I find listening to music from my past incredibly motivating. Why? Because I use to really feel the blue pill lyrics and fantasise about being helplessly in love with my 'soul mate'. It reminds us how far we have come.
Bamse20 7y ago
I personally listen to rock, metal, metalcore etc. Something I do is find new bands and genres in youtube next list. Just type a band and start hopping new bands and songs on the list. Also I listen to good edm/house music, and I usually make own connotations to songs. For example I think about sexy feels, feel when I party, pick up or work out. Just to spice it up. I dont want to necesarily feel what the artist/others feel about one song, but I create my own reality about it. Like for some love song I just think passionate onenight stand. Weird as this sounds, being rp FOR ME doesnt mean a certain mould I should fit, but one that I create myself. Not a pro, and english is not my language, but hope this helps a bit.
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RATM, Watsky, Polyphia, Daft Punk, Coheed & Cambria, Jaga Jazzist. Try some of those.
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general_derez 7y ago
Thanks for the actual suggestion.
Buchloe 7y ago
There's a punk song called cluster fuck I believe. Chorus is a dude saying something like "I love you, but I fuck your friends". Many years ago I dated a feminist "punk" who listened to it. The song made me extremely uncomfortable at the time. Couldn't grasp that my special gf would enjoy material about a guy saying this. Later she cheated on me with like 5 guys. Pretty redpill song.
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Techno, it's got a well-developed and logical structure to the music, without any of the terrible vocals centered around beta themes. Just raw sounds and rhythms interacting with one another, hypnotic and mesmerizing, very useful for relaxing on the border of meditation if you prefer that sort of thing.
RedditAdminsSuck_88 7y ago
It's toxic. Heard this song on the radio the other day. Lyrics was some dude singing "I'm only one call away, I'll be there to save the day" about how he will do anything to be there for his women. No doubt blue pill men hear that shit and think thats how you have to be with women. Heard another song at the gym. Lyrics were something like "I'll treat you better than he can" (or something like that) over and over.
Women love hearing that type of shit... from Chad. If she has already pre-selected a guy as attractive, she will love hearing that type of stuff. But from a non-Chad? It disgusts her
Ehipassika 7y ago
They really are because they get straight into the subconscious mind and then condition it if one is unaware of their toxicity.
grlahmb 7y ago
"I'm in the corner, watching you kiss her, oh oh oh"
Interesting strategy
1761 7y ago
I heard this song on the radio the other day and I almost threw up. And you get the feeling the whole idea is "if she hears this she'll see how much I care about her and come back to me." Good luck buddy!
MarvelousWhale 7y ago
That's a bold strategy, Cotton, let's see how it plays out
trulytrulyisay 7y ago
I look at a lot of that music like, the artist and songwriters know what SELLS. So they write and produce music for the market that listens to and buys the music.
yomo86 7y ago
Nope. Personal preference as long as your goals do not become compromised and the hobby, in this case music, is not carrying a BP-message why not indulge from to time in joyful things.
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Sandman616 7y ago
Stick with his old stuff. Now that he's popular he makes BP music because it's what sells.
BenDoverBish 7y ago
"woke up by a girl and I didn't know her name" is the bridge to one of his new songs. It's more poppy and targeted towards the masses but at its core it's still druggy fucking hoes oriented.
Sandman616 7y ago
It's the only one of his new songs that I actually like, simply because it's subject matter is reminiscent of his old style.
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kranos33 7y ago
Don't engage in "I want her number" mode. Talk to her as a friend, or even as a co-worker at the beginning. Be very neutral (no PUA shit, as it will backfire and make her uncomfortable).
I always engage with very light conversation first, (ie. at a coffee place, what are you reading, doing... working on), after a bit back and forth, disengage, and keep doing what you are doing (don't ask number yet).
If you are interested and the first convo went well, in 5-10 mins, when you are ready to leave, chat with her a bit more, then ask her number.... (as you are packing). It is weird, but people are more free to talk when they are in transitional... something about the human psyche.
Also, it gives her an ultimatum, to talk back and give you her number, or not as you are leaving.
Sometimes, when there are too many people around and she might be self conscious, I would give my business card. it works, and I have been contacted even months later....
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Go fuck it up, a bunch of times. Eventually, you'll realize your brain is self sabotage.
Praecipuus 7y ago
This. You'll realize right after your very first rejection/fuckup that it really doesn't affect you as much as you would expect.
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are you calibrating? Failure is a means to:
stop fearing failure
Even in the old PUA days, many guys were good at 1, but absolutely sucked at 2. Thats where killing your ego comes into play.
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notveryzen 7y ago
That's a 95th percentile penis. Average is 3.6 inches. Suspect the number would shoot up quite a bit if that was a 50th percentile number.
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5.5 is average.
sqerl 7y ago
LOL. There's only 206 of me.
Edit: Apparently I need to be more selective. 454K women meeting my general criteria.
Edit2: revised my settings. Only 18 of me.
Edit3: being more selective gave me 210k options.
Edit4: put in a range for my demographic. There's 14K of me once you factor in variations of height, income, religion. Funny that boils down to only 18 with one variable per selection.
Edit5: here's the website:
http://www.iwonderifyouareoutthere.com/
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Total Men in US 254
% of population 0.00007887289914504001%
It doesn't seem hard to excel in this, even broadening categories a lot.
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Jesus, you haven't even met these women, and you're in their frame.
You don't need to dwell on this shit, you need to be your own masculine center in your life.
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Again, why care what is in a womans head? And usually an unattractive one to boot?
Case in point, this is part of my inbox, which I know many other EC's get stuff just as bad. This is a half of one days worth. This particular one I never even commented to, or about. It was off a one-off commment "Taking my toys and going home" to a post about someone boycotting cracked magazine.
Theres 3 subreddits that follow everything I do, and continue to post the same virtriol, to everything my sub puts out...
A bunch of battered women (an alcoholicin the above exmaple, projecting their damaged lives on the world) Do you see me posting on this ones fucked up worldview, as some kind of cathardic example of why women suck? No.
Theres no value in it. It absolves me of the responsibility of owning my shit, and strategist how best to be happy in life. It's also the best example of NAWALT, which is normally some stupid just world fallacy.
Low quality women are everywhere, I just don't care about them, they only exist to bring everyone down, because it's easier than making themselves better.
So whatever those tumblr girls want? Good on them, good luck. If I'm doing my job right, I should never have to meet one IRL, I hang where the winners hang. IF I see them around, it means I fucked up, and I have something to work on
We_Are_Legion 7y ago
I remember when I used to be active and used to get stuff like this. Was loads of fun. I have a screenshot of one on my other computer. Will post if you're interested.
Blazingbros 7y ago
How can I meet more red pilled people? All of my friends are blue pilled, unmotivated betas, how can I find people who crave success and self-improvement?
_avra 7y ago
Change your company and try to socialise. You will find people that you enjoy being with
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If you are really stuck, go to networking events for start-ups (easy to find on Meetup.com if you are in a major city), or start working out of a coworking space. Talk to everyone and work with people that have some actualized success and passion for shit.
Also, the gym.
randomperson123321 7y ago
Change your habits. It's habits that define who you are in the long run. What you do, when, where, how, with whom, for how long. All that and more, matters.
By changing your habits you will find people similar to you, in knowledge, mindset, characteristics, etc.
Do not expect successful people who improve to hang out with losers. Help yourself first and attraction between you and similar people will eventually manifest.
In this process, you will also end up attracting people who just want to profit from you, while offering little or even nothing in return. Learn to identify and protect yourself from those people.
almostaristotle 7y ago
all that is general TRP advice which is ok, but i think he's asking about actual ways to meet ppl.
I think TRP groups and PUA groups can help at this, get some wingmen.
randomperson123321 7y ago
He is asking to meet people who aim to be successful. That is essentially the opposite of PUAs, unless your definition of success is coning others and becoming a clown just for the sake of instant gratification.
almostaristotle 7y ago
HAHA I am not surprised at all.
The "clown puas" are the ones who started what today has morphed into the high and might THE REDPILL we so proudly want to be associated with.
But just because the packaging has changed to include career, fitness, entrepreneurship and right wing politics suddenly pioneers like mystery are today just "clowns with big hats trying to game dumb bitches at bars".
I also encourage you to read yareallyarchive.com. His writing can clear your confusion even better.
The thing is most of the manosphere and TRP is just full keyboard jockeying while the good old clown puas are the ones who ACTUALLY go out and get laid within hours of meeting a girl. They are the ones who put all our theories and literature to the fucking test.
And that is how lasting change comes by and remains.
I can just go on and on about how puas are the ones who put negging and sarging and all those ideas to test and built it up.
The way you think "people who aim to be successful" is different from puas, as if puas are not doctors and engineers and businessman. Then the "clown" remark is just a straw man you want to attack.
I mean the "be successful" is the age old beta mantra society has always given men. That once you got the money and abs and the clothes and the car suddenly pussy is going to all over you—it was the puas who challenged that and came up with better ways to rewire your brains and ACTUALLY BECOME social and get laid.
Just how many guys do you know with model level looks and big bucks in the bank standing at the bar with the cool look, looking around like james bond while anxiety eats away at him inside when he's just invisible to all those dumb bar sluts.
randomperson123321 7y ago
My mind is quite clear actually.
The particular "pioneer" you mentioned, Mystery, had a meltdown about a year ago.
Amongst my friends and acquaintances, most of those who practiced "game" for a very long time either grew out of it or they destroyed their life. One of them actually killed himself. Three became so terrible company that friends and acquaintances actively avoid them. Two ended up with addictions into drugs/alcohol. Others and some of the above (not including the dead one obviously) ended up with chronic depression.
Yes there are some who never grow out of it. Those few know exactly what they are doing and why, and they don't get their hopes up for something else. Think of people like Hugh Hefner.
I'm not saying that the PUA lifestyle created the issues above. I'm saying that the reason behind both the aforementioned issues and the resort to the PUA lifestyle are results of the same problem, and they are not going to fix it.
Hate to break it to you, but red pilled individuals were around before "game", "pua", "trp", "mgtow" were even known terms, before internet, computers, etc. even existed.
It's just that the internet made it exceptionally easy to reach all kinds of information fast and with minimal effort. This includes the philosophy of trp, pua techniques, etc.
almostaristotle 7y ago
I didnt get the "Hate to break it to you, but red pilled individuals were around before "game", "pua", "trp", "mgtow" were even known terms, before internet, computers, etc. even existed."
That sounds like saying men already knew what women are like but internet made it easy to "exchange notes". .is that what you mean?
If so then I agree. Rollo has a quote: "internet is men's equivalent of women's emancipation".
But you miss the very very very important point then puas were the men who WENT OUT - AS IN AWAY FROM A COMPUTER AND OUT OF THE HOUSE. On the streets, clubs, where have you and APPROACHED total STRANGERS and then went home and report their findings.
Have you tried that yet? It's easily one of the most difficult things to do - especially if you are a standard consumer of trp ideology - a computer nerd, programmer or a guy from STEM. In fact you probably are right up there with the best of humans out there AND SMARTER than most humans BUT your sex life sucks so bad and it hurts so much that you had to google and read up on getting laid.
The PUAS are the ones who to put out that info out there for those guys in the 80s 90s.
The mystery breakdown and your friends suicide(very sorry about that) is i think a huge part of their personal life and nothing to do with pua.
If anything pua was all about not drinking, lifting and fashion and everything else what we today package as TRP.
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HumanSockPuppet 7y ago
This is solid advice. Mods please point this man.
randomperson123321 7y ago
Also added a warning, to hopefully make it more solid.
calloberjig 7y ago
Single father (35yo) here with four children full-time.
Logistics are a challenge for me and I don't really want to be parading random chicks in front of my kids, yet obviously I have urges that need fulfilling.
My only thought so far is to visit a hooker when needed, which tends to add up...
Are there any men in similar situations that can give advice?
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 7y ago
You said downthread you've got experience spinning plates, get some more spinning now that you're stabilized into your new situation.
Single dadhood can be parlayed into a woman magnet. If you're not getting IOIs at the park from the single moms, try online dating with a profile specifying long term part time.
It's recommended against for younger men still learning, but mid-30s and beyond, single moms were the BEST pool of long term, part time, low effort plates. Vet very carefully to find the subset who really have their shit together, and have decided to make raising kids their priority so they don't WANT a full time relationship. One such spun on and off for 10 years, until her daughter went off to college and was free to find herself a nice Beta to settle in with.
calloberjig 7y ago
Nice. Alot of them are damaged goods but I think you're on the money.
Plenty of IOI's but haven't followed through because of the potential collateral with my kids. If I can keep it discreet though...
Great to know it can work long term. Nice work man and thanks for the advice. Things are looking up
Bear-With-Bit 7y ago
Riffing off the great advice from u/MentORPHEUS I find women in professional fields --doctors, lawyers, cpas, dentists, professors, classical musicians-- to fit the bill. They have their shit together, they're focused on their careers, they tend to be risk-adverse in their personal/social lives.
sqerl 7y ago
Tough spot. Careful w/hookers. If you get caught and they're illegal where you're at, custody will become an issue.
Take care of yourself physically. Finding somone that's ok with 4 kids isn't impossible. You'll have to make sure you have a sitter unless older kids can take care of younger.
calloberjig 7y ago
Good advice. The legality thing isn't an issue here. I'm in good shape, tall and earning good money but still wary about commitment after my experiences.
I was spinning a bunch of plates before I got custody and had to move and drop them all. I miss it a bit but the Dad thing is rewarding.
Tricky to find anyone like that that hasn't got their own kids and looking for a lock-down provider... I'll keep looking and improving.
Bear-With-Bit 7y ago
I just found a pretty decent massage/spa. Decent girls there too, service is great. Much cheaper than providers. Not everything I want/need but gets the job done.
ShiningConcepts 7y ago
Not an answer, but I just have to say -- you have four kids and you (if you're a full time single father) didn't get fucked over in family court. You're very lucky!
calloberjig 7y ago
Thanks man. Yeah I'm extremely lucky and went through hell to get where I am now.
The mother intended to fuck me over but couldn't handle the responsibility. She bailed and left the kids with me.
I had to pay her a lot of money (worth it - my kids are worth more than money) and now she lives in her van in the middle of nowhere, sees the kids ~3 times a year. Winning.
Honestly they are better off without her around she is an abusive drug addict
empatheticapathetic 7y ago
This will be my brother soon enough. He was a green card for his wife. She got pregnant. She is an abusive psycho and it doesn't help my bro is king beta. She's ready to leave, any tips on legal damage limitation? She doesn't want anything to do with the two babies, wants to go ride the CC around Europe.
calloberjig 7y ago
Ah well, ask for advice and end up dishing it out.
Here goes:
Pay money for a good (non-feminist) lawyer - yesterday. Worth the money
Record all interactions with her on your phone mic
Gather evidence of Psycho behaviour
Power of suggestion: "you know if you need a break, I'm happy to watch the kids" etc. Get her to sign an Order, then don't let her come back. Once you have custody it's very difficult for her if you can prove they have a stable life
p.s. I am not a lawyer and things may be different in your country. Get legal advice ASAP
ShiningConcepts 7y ago
If you can prove that, then she should be seeing them 0, not 3, times a year. And the bullshit family court system still lets her see them. The family court system is GARBAGE!
calloberjig 7y ago
It's important that the kids see how fucked up she is and that I'm not keeping them from seeing her. They are very bright and will quickly catch on.
spinach_dick 7y ago
Overinvested, and LTR starting to act up. I had been reading TRP about 2 years prior I started this LTR. Very good relationship yet as of lately things seemed to have changed. It's not a change shorter responses, being a little more bitchy, asking to hangout less often, going out with friends, just overall displaying less interest, less excited to see me, less nudes.
As I said earlier I'm not new to TRP, is my recent feeling that I have over-invested, lately I find myself checking my phone way more often to see if she's texted me. She knows that I am a high value man, and constantly tells me she I'm the "best thing that's ever happened to her" or that "I'm the love of her life". But we here on TRP stress to always listen to her actions and not her words.
Since this has come to my attention I've started applying more dread. I never text her first, I always take longer to reply and she continues to contact me first. talking to a couple girls I had waiting on the bench. I even went out with one a few times to try and get my subconscious to know I have options, I am not worried about breaking it off with this girl, however I would like to keep her around if I can fix my current problem of feeling like the relationship is starting to cause stress
Besides the obvious break it off, what do you think would be a good course of action to take. I am not against dropping her all together but the pussy is good and if she was acting right i'd be more than happy to keep her around. Any thoughts? I look forward to reading all your responses.
plow_through 7y ago
Had the exact same thing happen with my 1 year LTR. This girl treated me like a god for several months while I basically applied the TRP LTR manual on her. All was good until circumstance forced us to live together for three months, and I over invested in the relationship and gave her to much attention and treated her like a unicorn. She started shitting on me and disrespecting me after becoming friends with a CC girlfriend from work who told her to break up with me. I applied dread just as TRP advises, but after one night where disrespect was too much, I "soft" broke up with her the next day. The reason I gave her was that shit wasn't working and I thought we need some time apart to grow as independent human beings or some bullshit (I made a point of not appearing butt-hurt at all), and that maybe we could re-asses in a few months but who knows.
After that she had a hard melt-down and few days later begged me to work it out. I effectively demoted her to plate status and went back to basics, being an asshole 90% of the time and applying HEAVY dread. Result: She is under my thumb again and she basically said fuuuuckk youuuu.. to all of her friends who hate me and want her to leave me. Especially satisfying is she fighting with her CC bitch friend who told her she is no fun anymore since I broke up with her, and insisted she should leave me. The best part is getting rid of re-emerging one-itis tendencies and not giving a fuck again. So I would I advise you keep doing what you are doing with dread, and maybe you could benefit from taking some time off (I didn't see her for two weeks since the breakup, met for a short while and banged and then disappeared for another week before things "normalized" a bit). Maybe my experience can be of some value to you.
LymanRP 7y ago
Dude, CC girlfriends are the worst. Misery loves company--they need other CC-riding friends to validate and justify their shitty life choices.
plow_through 7y ago
Yes, they are poisonous fucking snakes.
sadomasochrist 7y ago
Frame alert. Your issue is in this message.
Scymnus 7y ago
Sounds like you've got it handled. Keep dreading and she should stop acting up or start acting so bitchy you'll drop her.
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Name_XVII 7y ago
Women in business. There's clearly a redefinition in business dynamics in order to accommodate women to the point where men silence themselves as not to intimidate/outshine women. Total BP crap. Is some comprise necessary? If so how and where?
sadomasochrist 7y ago
You're reframing your own intimidation. Just do what you do, and make sure you carefully dress your language and structure your discussions as to alleviate any chance of blame shifting. Focus on your KPIs and make sure people like you.
If people like you, it's very hard for them to trash talk you. So that is actually more important than anything else.
Do that, and you're fine. Have awesome KPI's and everyone hates you, buhbye.
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sadomasochrist 7y ago
1) This was an institutional power play. Two incomes were required in order to fund income taxes. Look at everything going on and ask yourself if "play nicely boys and girls" seems to be a better and more realistic tone than "men suck."
2) Sure, why bother with it? Simply put, what is your net benefit? Lions don't care about Gazelles, but they'll quietly walk through through the brush to eat one. Not everything needs to be about an overt display of dominance.
Both of these responses are you trying to rationalize ego.
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sadomasochrist 7y ago
Simply put. Do you want to be right, according to yourself or your "values" or do you want to be better off?
abstractplebbit 7y ago
Most definitely Live shows are one of my favorite things
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Why doesn't the sub have more money / career related stuff?
randomperson123321 7y ago
Financial and professional success are only parts of the red pill philosophy. There are specialized places that offer related information.
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[deleted] 7y ago
big part of the sidebar is to separate wheat from chaff with knowledge.
Its diverse because some people know and want to help, others don't, and like the sound of their own voice.
it's up to you to be smart enough to see the difference
yomo86 7y ago
The more ad hominem an argument is, be it "beta" or "alpha", the more likely it is utter bullshit.
deadpool100000 7y ago
how can i evaluate and modify my own attractiveness without wasting my time with chicks who don't appreciate my greatness? like i dont want to end up wasting an evenng or some money on a chick if shes just using me for a free meal
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first, reflect on if you actually are. If you were, they wouldn't be reacting to it.
Like they say, 1 person calls you an asshole? they are an asshole, everyone calls you an asshole? time to tone it down.
Keep your eyes open, if you get a signal this isn't worth your time, get up, thank them, and walk away.
No reason not to be polite, you tried, they weren't a fit, no hard feelings
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deadpool100000 7y ago
you wanna stop riding my dick you fuckig faggot??? its a fucking thread for questions so you can shove yor cornbread up your dickhole.
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deadpool100000 7y ago
of course. every good answer involves cornbread.
Huskimbo9 7y ago
Would joining the air force be ideal these days?
tylertgbh 7y ago
Are you American? If so, then no.
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With anything military, I suggest, if one joins, don't treat it as a lifelong career, but a stepping stone. Get in, and have a plan to get out, probably around 10 years or less. Any more than that, and you're wasting time, and should just shoot for the pension, and you'll probably get knee/head/back damage by then
trulytrulyisay 7y ago
Let me reinforce, you WILL have some kind of damage to your body throughout a military career. It's a matter of when, not if.
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Yeah. I noticed myself, around the 10 year mark is when you start to see it. I got out at 12, and I knew that another year there would have been something permanent.
The guys I sailed with, even now, are breaking down in front of me. Even the hard sea trades that sit at a desk... just those waves knocking you around are enough to break backs and knees... not to mention the insane amount of them on SSRI's.
Unless you get a cushy officer position at HQ, it's not sustainable for a 20 year career. Thats why they still have good pensions, they essentially ruin any chance of a full career after this one, and unlike the oil workers, aren't making 100k a year
trulytrulyisay 7y ago
I only spent 6 years in the guard and had an incident on a Bradley that still nags me 4 years later. Things happen and you can't always prevent them.