Came across this interesting little piece:
archive post: http://archive.is/ke9Dw
imgur link: http://i.imgur.com/lXN6kqt.png
So this was an entertaining read, the schadenfreude was real. Dumb slut gets knocked up with a baby for failing to use protection, is surprised and astonished when her boyfriend ditches her.
Soon enough she wakes up and smells the roses. "Waaah no one wants to date a single mom, why are men so sexist?" She realises nobody wants to take care of her pathetic ass and cover for her own stupid mistake and foot the bill for it. Sure enough before, she's had an easy way going around getting relationships and boyfriends. But now? The truth is dawning on her that whatever she had to give is now severely compromised, making her damaged, used goods.
Notice how much hate she has for her ex. I wouldn't be surprised if this crazy woman tried to kill him. She hates him for not wanting to take care of her baby when she was too stupid to use birth control.
But why does she REALLY hate him?
Fuck you for finding someone who loves you and gives you a place to live for FREE.
Haha there you have it. In her mind, he still belongs to her. In her mind she hates that he managed to move on past her and find another woman to fuck while she's still stuck with the baby. I bet she thought having the baby and making him pay child support would nail him to the board, but the absolute madman managed to get away with it and is still enjoying his life.
She hates that he's getting a place to live for free whilst she's living at free for her parents.
The guy however, he's paying the child support he needs to, doing the quota of parenting he needs to, and still manages to get around having some action. Absolute red pill by the looks of it.
I wish you were a good dad so I could just give her to you, she deserves better than me.
Haha so there it is. She basically just wants to skirt all the responsibility herself. That's what it all comes down to. She hates having any responsibility. She'd rather he had it all and she had none, and she thinks that still makes her somewhat better than him.
She blames her for the baby's existence when she could have just taken birth control but chose not to. And still sees it as his fault, even though its pretty much her fault.
All in all quite a delightful read, the schadenfreude in her misery and realisation of how badly she fucked up is real. Most women go nuts when they hit the wall, but its so much more amazing to see when it occurs at such a young age like 25.
Ali_s1987 8y ago
The lady has post partum depression..........what do you expect from her. That is some serious shit right there!
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Poor poor child.
This is the reason why everything is going to shit in Western society. Feminism tells them: "HAVE A CAREER", "DONT BE A HOUSEWIFE".
So what does the modern woman do?
Have casual sex and then get knocked up by Chad out of wedlock. Instinct kicks in and shes a single mother. That kids gets damaged for life. More betas/sluts.
Meanwhile Chad enjoys paradise.
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I...uh... how did you end up here dude?
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BlacknOrangeZ 8y ago
Boohoo. They're doing the best with what they've got, and that's what you should be doing. If you won the genetic lottery you wouldn't be living a life of wedding vows and picket fences for the sake of Western civ.
slay_it_forward 8y ago
Breeders? White birth rate is at like 1.3. So you hate immigrants?
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RedEyesBlueShades 8y ago
This post is a sad representation of where TRP is sliding to, an angry ranting circle jerk of butthurt betas.
The girl's post should actually be highlighted and emphasised and not thrashed. Here's why.
No, she does not deserve excessive sympathy because single mom, dick dad. Her post should be used as admonition to all the strong and independent wymyn out there on what the reality of raising a child alone is. It's fucking hard. Dealing with, literally, shit is not fun and giggles. It fucking sucks.
But the one thing where this girl really does deserve praise is for admitting that it 50% her own fault for being where she is. This is just about 50% more than what your usual self entitled cunt would do, aka blaming the man 100%. Obviously. We'd be in a much better place is women were to take their fair share of responsibility. Not all of it, just their fair share. And you know what? This girl does it.
You'll need to spend some more time thinking about women and what the TRP is actually saying. First off, get over that anger. Second, stop trying to score meaningless internet cookie points by misapplying TRP concepts. Third, actually be that redpill motherfucker you desperately want to be.
Stythe 8y ago
She's saying he barely spends time with the kid and stopped paying child support. She sounds like a moron but I don't know why youre praising the guy for his actions either. Frankly I'd say their both shit heads and that kid is fucked.
BigTexas07 8y ago
Worst part about this whole thing is the terrible life that child is most likely going to have. We wonder why there is a mental health crisis going on...because of parents like this.
Frenetic_Zetetic 8y ago
This reminds me of a girl I used to know. She got knocked up at 18 or 19, husband bailed within a year. Moved back home with parents, slept around town, nobody wanted to "stick", obviously due to her having a kid. Fuck that noise.
So, she got married AGAIN to some fool in FL, and that ended within a year. Back at parents with 6 year old and fast approaching the wall. The best part is, I got to bang her between her first and second husband. Put out on the first night, too. Some patterns are undeniable IMHO.
newName543456 8y ago
And those fucked up children grow to be just as fucked up parents and their bring up their children to be as fucked up and so on. Cycle continues.
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IllimitableMan 8y ago
You need a license to drive an automobile, but having a child comes with no formal checks or balances.
Let that sink in for a second.
EndTimesRadio 8y ago
Do you really want the state dictating who can and can't have a child? The state that's already decidedly anti-male?
golden_crow 8y ago
I thought about this when people I went to highschool with started popping out babies while I was in college/lawschool.
[deleted] 8y ago
sounds like you agree withthe notion that the state is God
joseph177 8y ago
The state already owns your body - otherwise prostitution would be legal. I don't think licenses solve anything.
spurdosparade 8y ago
You're not even allowed to fucking die in my country, only if the state kills you, but suicide is illegal.
wat94 8y ago
It isn't about owning one's body, it is about an excess of prudity.
Polaris382 8y ago
Yeah, and its supposed to be a HUGE pain in the ass to adopt a child. Not saying there shouldnt be a fairly thorough screening process (there should be), but its quite ironic that people who want to adopt need to bend over backwards to do it while so many other garbage people are shitting out kids in a completely irresponsible manner and there is zero oversight over that.
TyrannyVengeance 8y ago
Ah but there is oversight. That oversight is the social marketing of being childless and or killing your child. It's everywhere now, "Kids aren't fun." "Kids aren't careers." and so on its easier to talk people in to not having kids or murdering them, than to legislate the murder of them. Look at China. They look liked monsters for legislating it. Yet, the US was damn effective at birth control via abortion and not a single politician was called out.
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AFPJ 8y ago
Always good to see someone dropping thought bombs on the regular.
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the state is not God, the state is the source of evil.
you should know, since you are sworn to defend the legacy of the founding fathers
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cloudmax40 8y ago
I am also concerned about idiots having children. However, I don't want the state deciding who or who cannot reproduce.
ABC_Florida 8y ago
I think the least worse solution is let people learn from other people's mistakes. And also get rid of the female privilege of having a choice to be a mother. Okay, it's her body. But her choice is his choice too. He has to suck it up.
cloudmax40 8y ago
"My wallet my choice!" -- men should have the option of financial abortion. That would fix things pretty fast.
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Welfare shouldn't increase with additional children
wat94 8y ago
Are you kidding? People are an asset to a state. Of course they want you to make babies.
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People on welfare are a burden on the state, not the other way around.
cloudmax40 8y ago
The more birth certificates -- documents certifying that assets have docked at the port -- they have, the more collateral they have for more debt.
Of course, welfare dependents won't yield much as far as tax cattle go, so it's totally backwards.
wat94 8y ago
Yeah, but it is just nothing compared to the money a new consumer in society will bring in.
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energyinmotion 8y ago
No it shouldn't. That would help no one but to rely more on the system.
-TempestofChaos- 8y ago
This sort of thing would drop overnight if it did.
Polaris382 8y ago
Im sure it would decrease some, but I think you may be giving a lot of these people too much credit.
-TempestofChaos- 8y ago
Yeah they'd cry racism overnight
energyinmotion 8y ago
They already decide everything else. Might as well prevent retards from procreating.
cloudmax40 8y ago
I actually share the same sentiment. My concern is that if we involve the state in deciding who may or may not procreate then people with the "wrong" opinions will be told they may not procreate. The people with the "wrong" opinions -- Constitution, Bill Of Rights, Sovereignty, Pro-Family, etc -- are exactly who should be procreating.
choikwa 8y ago
but you want state deciding who can and cannot drive?
cloudmax40 8y ago
If you are engaged in commercial activity operating a motor vehicle in a jurisdiction where commerce is regulated in a territory by a state you should be required to have a commercial driver's license.
If you are simply a free man traveling in an automobile / consumer goods NOT engaged in commercial activity then a commercial driver's license is not required.
cloudmax40 8y ago
For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opS9iCf7uaI
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
The state can expect a reasonable minimum level of care.
The problem is .... how do you punish a mother of 3 children for being neglectful? It's not like you can lock her up. Once a woman achieves motherhood, she's unpunishable. Not that women are punished anyway.
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
Punish her the way it was always done in every society in human history. Take away the bastard children. Shame her. Kick her out of school. Send her to the country to have the baby. Put the baby up for adoption with a stable couple who can raise a child. That is the LEAST harsh way stable societies handle bastards and whores. The more common way was to stone the woman at the city gates.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
And support them how?
women have no shame.
This is crazy talk now, please stop.
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
I am always amazed how a solution can be encoded in law and custom for all of human history and when we do it differently- in an obviously maladaptive way given the number of single moms and their criminal/dysgenic progeny- it is considered so "crazy" you can't even mention it.
News flash: ALL ancient systems of law had the death penalty for much of current female behavior- cheating, slutty, cuckolding, even disobedience to your husband- were all DEATH PENALTY offenses in all ancient societies. Today much of female behavior that we accept as normal and just fine and the truth is their behavior is not "just fine." The ancients knew a Hell of a lot more than we give them credit and many of them had societies that lasted longer than ours ever will last.
cloudmax40 8y ago
I don't think we need to punish neglectful mothers, we just need to stop subsidizing them and paying for their reckless behavior.
Instead of chasing down men and punishing them for womens' choices, require mutually stated union and financial liability up front (this used to be called Marriage).
Also, get rid of no-fault divorce.
The climate we are seeing today is why NeoReactionaries feel we have to let the system collapse entirely and rebuild from scratch.
Crypto-currencies are offering a great way to do this and make this happen.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
This means letting children starve.
When you say "require", how exactly do you stop it? There's only three ways: socially (now defunct), punishment on transgression (ie locking up mothers or fining them which harms their children) or sterilise (or forced contraception). None of these are realistic. It would be nice to say "require", but you have to think how this would actually be enforced.
I'm fine with no-fault divorce - that doesn't come with alimony or child support, that doesn't give the woman half of what she never earned, deducts the income she received while being supported from any settlement, and gives the man 50% child rearing rights.
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
All the more reason to take the bastards away from single moms and place them with families that are capable of caring for children.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
So you want to cuckold men and have them raise these kids from neglectful parents?
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
Adoption is not cuckolding and yes, I want responsible parents to reproduce and instill their values in children while irresponsible parents do not reproduce- and if they do at least they don't instill their values in children. Again, this is not rocket science. If you pay for single moms you get more of them. If you don't pay for them, you get less of them.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
It's not literally the same. But it's still one man raising the child of another. This sub is largely against this, and I don't think that there are enough parents available if we start punishing women for their shitty behaviour.
I agree but I do not understand how it is possible to prevent this.
True, but women literally hold society to ransom on this point. It is "support us or your children starve". Those are our options.
cloudmax40 8y ago
When I look at my paycheck and see 55% taxation and consider the fact that my employers are effectively subsidizing other people to have children rather than what I rightfully earned through my own hard work going to my own children, my reasonable response is: I DON'T FUCKING CARE, THEY'RE NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM, LET THEM STARVE
Taxation is theft.
Simple. No Marriage or written declaration that both parties intend to procreate and raise a child? No child support.
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Yeah, this happens. And it happens because the alternative is children running feral, increase in theft and violent crime, and shrinking population with attendant economic crash.
Although this really fucking sucks..... looking at the country as a whole, it's probably the best alternative.
Stop paying for children, and the whole country will implode.
The best way is to give up all hope of making women responsible (it doesn't work, and we all know why). The best plan is to empower men. Give men back ownership of the family. Remove all this "victims are always right and besides they definitely are victims absolutely" shit... make life WORSE for women who fuck it all up and alienate their man and their marriage. Reward the workers and those who commit and maintain, punish (largely financially) those who alienate their husbands and destroy their family.
Let's start by stopping this crazy "pay women to break up their families" shit that we're doing right now.
cloudmax40 8y ago
Which is happening any way.
Bitches know they can get pregnant and daddy government will enforce subsidization.
Stop paying for unwanted children.
Not the civilized parts.
As worse as possible if not exiling them out of civilization. Dump their ass in the third world where they belong.
GraphThis 8y ago
Doesn't sound like either parent is a real winner for what it's worth. She even admits that if the dad wasn't worse than her then he would have full custody. That's about the best outcome a worthy dad could hope for imo
Mithra9009 8y ago
I hope she doesn't fall down and crush her baby.
JackGetsIt 8y ago
And even if she were a good parent the child would have significantly less resources and lack a male role model as he or she aged. This child is at a huge disadvantage going into college and the workforce because of a selfish mother and father. Incomes are not keeping up with inflation and if you don't have two steady paychecks it's tough to keep afloat with children in the mix.
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Single mothers produce future criminals or future betas. Its shitty either way
StoicCrane 8y ago
Unless they're the one in a million who find and stick to TRP. It's a sad state of affairs.
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GC0W30 8y ago
Not any more. The grants are there, but tuitions quadrupled and the grants did not.
She will need loans if she actually makes it into college.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
I'd bet my right testicle that there are tuition fee waivers and 'scholarships' for single mothers. Also, not only grants but also other single mother/women programs.
GC0W30 8y ago
The powers that be want all of us enslaved to lenders. I am sure what you describe exists and 100% sure it falls short of adequate to cover most single moms.
They are legion now, thanks to feminism and big daddy welfare.
StoicCrane 8y ago
You keep your nut for today, but one day..
vagbutters 8y ago
You'd bet your ass there are, and that more will come out of the woodwork in the coming years thanks to "wymen's empowerment"
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Also the lack of a father is an evolutionary signal for war, it's gonna make any girls she has more promiscuous and any boys she has more aggressive.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
What an interesting concept, is there anywhere I can read more about this? Thanks bro.
usku 8y ago
Google Freakanomics as well. Interesting literature attached about how the Wade vs Roe decreased the crime rates in the early 90s. Easier to get not have unwanted children.
Correlation that a child raised in a home that isn't broken is less likely to be raised in poverty or resort to crime, violent or otherwise.
BigTexas07 8y ago
Somewhat different, but numerous studies have found that a vast majority of men in prison grew up without a father compared to a small percentage of men in prison growing up with married parents. Interesting stuff and the ~50% (and increasing) divorce rate in the U.S does not bode well for the future generations. Scary stuff.
Prokade 8y ago
The divorce rate in the U.S is actually decreasing.
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The rate is increasing, but the total amount of annual marriages is decreasing.
Wswgyg 8y ago
Divorce rate is dropping because they aren't even trying marriage now.
Original_Dankster 8y ago
Not much use other than an anecdote - grew up without a father. As a boy I was the most aggressive kid in the neighbourhood, other parents warned their kids not to play with me. Fascinated by GI Joe from a very early age (like 4 or 5 or so), joined the Cadets at 13, the Canadian Army at 18. I'm happier over in the sandbox than I am back in the real world. Definitely seems that I was primed for a martial life. Correlation? Causation? I have no idea. This is just a single data point from one man's perspective.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
Great anecdote, and yet I can't help but think of the effeminate men who are byproducts of the same single mother environment that you were. It seems single motherhood creates extremity, a very feminine man, or a very masculine man (usually said masculinity takes a negative flavour like a gangster/thug type due to all the issues the boy experienced growing up)
Original_Dankster 8y ago
I'd say yeah - there's at least three ways of reacting to not having a father.
The kid focuses on being the man who's missing (i.e. the family protector, end up hypermasculine, in trouble. Best hope is that the military finds these kids before gangs do.)
The kid focuses on his mom, and becomes a pussy.
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If you look on google about menarche and father involvement, there is quite a bit of research showing that girls without fathers around/involved start their period and develop earlier.
It's hard to spin that as a social construct. There are related poorer life outcomes, of course, like more promiscuous and first sex at earlier age. Anecdotally, there were 2 gang rapes at my high school by varsity sports stars that were swept under the rug. Both girls were from divorces and had no relationship with their dads.
Those things could be spun or psycholog-ized away, but the first period thing is kind of haunting to me.
Women are biologically hardwired to find a protector/make babies to the point to where the process is jump started if in the ancestral environment the woman was in danger and would likely not survive much longer if something did not change. Also, could be a prepping them to be a war bride type thing as well.
rathyAro 8y ago
We do see that girls are getti mg their periods earlier in general then was historically the case so whatever factor that contributes to that could be related to the lack of a father. It's an interesting theory though, I gotta look into it some time.
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It's partly due to higher fat levels, which also leads to earlier menarche.
The studies I've read control for that. In a cross section, controlling for things, girls of a current generation go through menarche earlier if they do not have a strong male presence.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
Right, higher fat levels are due to estrogen, higher fat leads to aromatisation, which leads to higher estrogen, which leads to higher fat, which leads to greater aromatisation, which leads to even higher estrogen - in an unending negative feedback of high estrogen and obesity. I would think the predominant factor for the ubiquity of early female menarche could be attributed to the prevalence of xenoestrogenic pollutants in our food and water supply. Now in spite of that, fatherless girls still their first period earlier than girls who have their father present and so your war theory may be as valid as it is interesting. The overall trend of earlier menarche is most likely caused by both of these factors, however as you rightfully point out, there is a distinction between them also.
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With that vicious, positive feedback loop (a negative feedback loop is self dampening and do not "run away"), you should be able to kick start it at any place to get the snowball rolling downhill.
I don't think it has to be an effect of war. In the past, any young girl without a male protector and provider around was going to die or be taken as a concubine, or some such. The ones that began to ovulate at these times were more likely to survive/reproduce to pass on genes. So, it is likely all women carry the genetics to jump start this process given certain triggers. But why would it be suppressed otherwise? My guess is that pregnancy in the very young is dangerous enough to counteract any positive selection pressure, in typical cases. In those nontypical cases, the risks of pregnancy are dwarfed.
sh1zlEE 8y ago
Would love to read about this as well.
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IllimitableMan 8y ago
Bang on. You're describing how a good chunk of this community came to be here. In a nutshell, single mothers create lost boys. And being a lost boy is a painful, horrible childhood I wouldn't wish on anybody.
StoicCrane 8y ago
Amazing article. I'm considering sending this to my brother deeply entrenched in a BP mindset struggling with depression who lacked a father figure as I did. Should it be done or should I stay my hand and let him possibly stumble upon RP on his own? As slim of a chance it may be?
IllimitableMan 8y ago
Thanks.
There's no right or wrong answer here, but generally we don't recommend unplugging men who aren't ready for it, as you will bet met by much resistance, and in the energetic stubbornness of that resistance your brother may not only reject the information, but you as well.
How do you think he will react towards you, will it put a severe spanner in your relationship? Is the fallout/hassle going to negatively impact your life? Will it make him an enemy? These are all things worth considering. You might want to find a subtler way of introducing it to him, perhaps post the link in a forum somewhere (not here) on a random account, read the forum with him, click the link, read the article together, and act like you're both discovering it for the first time. Just some food for thought, but I believe subtlety's what it'll take to get the job done here.
growingstronk 8y ago
As the son of a single mother that actually knows how to raise children, its not all bad.
I'm definetely sexually active much later than I would've been without my father, but that includes a lot of cofactors and seems to be the only really noticeable negative
Idk maybe the argument could be made that I would've turned out even better, but I just felt like offering this
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arcoolka 8y ago
Another guy here who was the son of a single mother, although only single because the father was actually abusive.
I didn't have role models - even to this day, the concept is foreign to me. I kinda relied on my own mind. I guess my mother is my role model in some respects, but I've never had a paragon of masculinity except for myself.
growingstronk 8y ago
I tried to latch on to any males I could find, but they never lasted. Firstly, it was one of mother's boyfriends. She stopped dating because I became so attached to guys that were only temporary, and would ball out. Then it was my sister's boyfriend (she is wayy older than me. My mother had me at late age)
At the end of the day I guess I had no real role models. Naturally I was very, very hard to control. I was also a little chubby. I went from a great student to a talented, underachieving student.
But I got my shit together. I didn't have to have anyone tell me to go to the gym, because I kinda knew. I was always considered on of the stronger kids throughout high school because I started lifting by 15. I guess that can probably put on good genetic lineage.
Maybe it was just easier to fill an empty glass. maybe the only reason I did so well was because I won the genetic lottery. I don't know
rathyAro 8y ago
I kinda wanted to say the same thing, but on the other hand there's a lot of stuff weird (but not necessarily bad) about me that could all come from lacking a father figure. But I generally liked how my childhood went.
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rathyAro 8y ago
Telling me that you turned out ok and then sayimng your standards are high doesn't say anything. Idk if you're doing great or good or actually ok. Also not clear what metrics you're judging by.
growingstronk 8y ago
My body is very good for my age
My gpa is pretty good. Im on pre-med track and starting new clubs and growing.
My resume is pretty good for my age
I have no real talent, besides science. No one was able to foster that in me
With my intelligence I could have gotten into an ivy league potentially or just a really competitive school if I had applied myself
My sex life at this point is non-existent. Not because I can't get laid, but because I don't want to. My sex drive is really low
To clarify what I meant by "ok," is that given the talent and potential I had, I could've done so much more with my life if I had taken everything more seriously. Sorry for giving such a vague answer.
StoicCrane 8y ago
Do you watch porn? That might be impacting your drive. Weightlifting, a decent, diet and rest should bring it up to par.
rathyAro 8y ago
Ok, I understand what you mean now. It's really hard to look at one data point and pull anything meaningful out of the results, particularly when the results aren't in yet (you're still in school). It'd be better to judge by how you feel and what you think your trajectory is. Do you feel well equipped to handle life career wise, socially, etc.
growingstronk 8y ago
I'd posit that despite being behind, I'm probably more capable than most for growth.
A lot of the things that should come naturally to others due to having a father figure are learned skills to me. I am much less likely to lose what I have because I know what needs to be done to keep it. I have pretty much self-taught everything I know through the internet.
The internet was my main or only source of advice throughout my entire life. And the net, despite its faults, is probably a better source of advice than most parents. So maybe thats why changed my life around so quickly.
Shazoa 8y ago
Having no male role model isn't particularly disadvantageous, definitely not as much so as people tend to assume. It's better to have no father in your life than a terrible one.
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Shazoa 8y ago
I had none, I did fine. A lot of people might struggle but my point was, and remains, that having an absent father is better than having a bad one.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
Being celibate is better than catching aids, this doesn't make being celibate desirable. You're essentially saying one bad thing isn't as bad as another. True, but this doesn't make the "lesser bad" (in this example, being fatherless) any more inherently desirable. Undesirable things don't become more desirable because there are even less desirable possibilities. Undesirability of a phenomenon is intrinsic, not comparative.
There's also an issue of false equivalency here. Fatherlessness is far more common than paternal abuse, and so whilst paternal abuse may be the greater evil, fatherlessness is the more common evil. As such one could argue normalising a common evil by pointing to a greater but rarer evil is an inadequate defence that is foolish at best and duplicitous at worst.
Feminists use this argument as a defence of single motherhood as well, and its totally disingenuous because it implies most boys have abusive fathers and are better off without them because of it - total bullshit. Fatherlessness is common and paternal abuse is rare, as such the comparison of each as equal commonalities is disingenuous. Your assertion may be unassailable, but the essence of your argument is effectively moot.
It's good you turned out ok despite fatherlessness, but the majority of fatherless boys aren't so lucky. Keep it real.
Shazoa 8y ago
I'm not on about paternal abuse, I'm on about the sort of fathers that might be around, but provide little to no support or actual parenting.
Abusive fathers are a whole different thing that is, of course, negative to the extreme.
I think that there are also a lot of other factors at play when it comes to the reporting of fatherless boys and their issues. Most often, for example, they are also in poverty or live in areas where they don't really stand out from the background of delinquency in the first place. Similarly, you see that with race and crime.
maniclurker 8y ago
I don't understand. Why are you complaining about the terrible parenting of the undesirable mother, when the guy who knocked her up is living it up? Where's his responsibility in creating this situation?
juliusstreicher 8y ago
Have you been reading any of this thread?
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--Visionary-- 8y ago
I know, right? At the very least, he should have aborted the child. His body, His choice. You know how it goes.
Wait, did I mess something up there? /s
maniclurker 8y ago
Yeah, the part where you made a shitload of assumptions to confirm your bias.
--Visionary-- 8y ago
Bias of, uh, what exactly? You do realize that abortion is an option only given to women unilaterally and she chose not to use it, right?
Or are you going full feminist "women have no agency when bad stuff happens to them despite them unilaterally choosing to end up in the shit they're in" mode?
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maniclurker 8y ago
Here's the thing: I've been there. I knocked up a girl when I was 18. I was young and dumb, and wasn't thinking. Absolute mindlessness. No excuse other than just being an inexperienced human. I told her I was joining the navy, that I wouldn't be there, and that I thought abortion was the best idea, for both of our futures. She had it done. I think both of us have some psych repercussions for that choice, even 11 years down the line. You can be a tough-as-nails, hard bitten mother fucker, and still be influenced in indelible ways by this shit. What happens to mere mortals when things go this way?
We can't know if she was the town cum dumpster, or that ideal girl we all, deep-down, dream of. We can't know if he was just another irresponsible youth in the prime of his human sexual experience. Why automatically assume?
There are details were all missing here. I accept that there are truths to concepts found here like AWALT and all that. But, in the end, we're all human.
Fuck, I don't know dude. This world is fucked, the human experience is convoluted, and I'm sitting at a bar drunk.
Existentialism sucks sometimes.
600times 8y ago
Well said. It hurts both of you to get pregnant unexpectedly, especially when you're young. And the responsibility belongs to both parties. Not just the girl. Not just the guy.
One interesting note on the original linked item... the guy she had the kid with cheated on the woman he was actually with to knock up the girl writing the screed. Let me tell you something - someone who will cheat on someone else to be with you, will cheat on you. Women don't get this and it is fascinating to see in action.
maniclurker 8y ago
I missed that part. Yeah, that's one of my immutable core tenants... once a cheat, always a cheat.
I still don't understand why all of these people are celebrating this guy's decision. I'm not going to say he's an awful piece of shit, but I'm certainly not going to say it was his finest hour.
I think too many guys on this sub get wrapped up in a tribal, women-are-the-enemy mentality where they stroke their own egos and bitterness when misfortune befalls some random chick.
Maybe I just need to shut up and lurk more.
600times 8y ago
Agreed entirely. The woman is demonstrating AWALT, but that doesn't make the guy a prizewinner.
What did the guy do that was so great, for him or for anyone? For a fling, he signed himself up for 18 years of child support and having to deal with this particular woman, not to mention some responsibility of parenting (even if he's only doing it for two weekends a month). I'm not seeing that he's any kind of role model, RP or otherwise.
Although I do enjoy watching a woman get faced with the hard reality of her decisions, it doesn't seem to happen all that often.
maniclurker 8y ago
There is certainly some measure of satisfaction to be had when pretty bitches, who've had all the ease of life handed to them on a platter because blue pill pussy worship and aesthetically prepossessed society, get served up a dose of harsh reality. However. I don't really think maliciously of them. Why does it seem so many guys here are burnt? I mean, I don't understand women a bit. I think the best description of them I've ever heard was Jack Nicholson's line in "As Good As It Gets" about imagining a man, but removing accountability and reason.
600times 8y ago
Exactly. Pretty women think they will be pretty and have it easy forever.
Shazoa 8y ago
Take your moral responsibility of fatherhood, maybe? It's not hard to avoid being a deadbeat dad.
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Shazoa 8y ago
Providing for and looking after a child.
retrenu 8y ago
Remember she will rage out on the child. That bitch should be in a mental hospital and that child in a kidhouse for better life.
Slow_Ride_37 8y ago
Im 24 and I had a chubby 6/10 - 26 yo girl hit on me HARD at a bar. I have never experienced a girl pursue me so hard. It was like she was the guy and was running game on me hahaha!
I was completely turned off when she told me she had a 2 yo kid and that no guy would date her because they were all insecure about dating an independent women that makes her own money.
InSunlightWeBelong 8y ago
The worst part is that the daughter will be raised as a man-hater. I'm praying the kid sees past that.
Had the child been male, he'd be too deeply blue pill to even fathom.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
Yeah, there's nothing red pill about being a voluntarily absent dad. Try to control your revenge fantasy hardon.
(Edited to remove the word "deadbeat." It wasn't the correct description.)
niceguy_gone_cad 8y ago
He didn't ask to have this kid, he has no more obligations that those dictated by the law.
Ugly_Cassanova 8y ago
Pity this person. Don't be angry that she fucked her life and now hates herself. This person is already down, why kick her too?
smokecheck1976 8y ago
You might be missing something, but I can tell a little bit by how aggressive and aggrieved this woman is in her post.
As a father, he has essentially zero rights in the family court system. If the mother refuses to allow the father to even have access to the child, law enforcement will do nothing and regard it as a civil matter even if he has an order allowing him parental time. If he pursues the matter in court, it will cost him money, take months, and she will at best get stern warning. it could take years and repeated trips for her to be held in any sort of contempt.
In the meanwhile, she can make any claim of physical, sexual, or mental abuse, and the court will take the claim seriously, or order him to prove his innocence. She can file Temporary Restraining Orders that include the child any time he has visitation, and the court issues them like toilet paper. Law Enforcement will enforce those orders.
All the while, she can play the "deadbeat dad" card. Complain that she is a poor, put upon, victim to anyone that cares to listen to her. Believe me, women game this shit out. They talk to each other. They know exactly what to do to generate sympathy and do as much damage as possible to the father at the same time.
I don't know her specific situation, but I have seen more than enough to know her general situation. She is an arrogant wretch of woman who thinks that her vagina, golden or otherwise, entitles her to things that is simply doesn't.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
WTF is the 'deadbeat' dad thing coming in? He's doing what he should.
getRedPill 8y ago
I cant understand why some people believe they are the alpha males of the jungle if they leave their children alone, if they stop their professional career and become poor. Oh greek gods!
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True, but after reading her rant, I'm guessing this guy left her for good reason..
She sounds horrible
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adam-l Endorsed Contributor 8y ago
A male friend of mine just had his baby born. He wanted start a family, but the tatooed chick he banged disappeared when she got pregnant, got back a few months later, and only when he let rumors around that he would abandon the baby. She became a total bitch, belittling him constantly, and telling him to "get used to it, because that's how it's gonna be from now on".
I'm telling him to do the right thing. Disappear. Pay his monthly check, and have nothing to do with the baby. Truth is, this child is already doomed. He cannot save it. His only chance is to protect himself - and maybe the child will seek him out when it's grown.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
I agree with the analysis. He should disappear. But it was never Red Pill to end up in that situation in the first place.
Though personally I'd suggest he gets out of the jurisdiction of the family court and not pay at all. That all counts to me as an involuntary absence since he's having it made impossible to stay and he failed to take any of the action necessary to set things up ready to raise a family (first and foremost of which, finding a half decent woman.)
Meat-on-the-table 8y ago
A lot of guys get so caught up in their happiness in the woman suffering that they forget that the one true victim is the child. It's some sort of vicarious revenge fantasy--a belief that if some woman somewhere is suffering, then that girl that did them wrong is suffering too.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
The child is the true victim in all of it, and I suspect many such children grew into men and found there way here because of it. The red pill community is a response to decline, fatherlessness included.
deskgrunt88 8y ago
Speaking!
Your post about The Lost Boys is what made me decide to start lifting.
IllimitableMan 8y ago
Good to know I've had a positive influence, thanks for getting in touch!
FLFTW16 8y ago
I agree with you on this, but we simply don't have enough information to really make a judgment. The woman who wrote that angry post is what we would call an "unreliable narrator" of her own story. She says "I did not and still do not want children." But we know this can't possibly be true. It's certainly not within the man's legal power to force her to get an abortion. She chose to keep it. She may have even intentionally not used any methods of birth control because she wanted to impregnate herself to lock down her Chad--who refused to be locked down. Now that she has been outsmarted she is raging.
She is just another woman who was riding the CC and got thrown off prematurely and is now saddled with the immense responsibility of raising a child alone. For all we know Mr. Chad was upfront and honest with her that he didn't want kids and was "just having fun." In this case I wouldn't call him a deadbeat, I'd call the woman a fool who tried to manipulate a man and failed.
From the kid's perspective the reasons don't matter and the kid is fucked regardless of the "why." This type of situation is a tragedy and illustrates why females are too irresponsible to be trusted with their own wombs. No doubt her parents are kicking themselves for how they raised her but they are compounding their error. Once upon a time a woman who disgraced herself would be disowned and forced to struggle on her own--which served as a stark warning to other females to keep their pants on until Mr. Right committed to them. Instead these modern parents bear some of the burden of their daughter's hedonistic lifestyle by continuing to support her and thus add another layer of "probable support" for watching and listening females. They can hop on the CC with confidence because if they get thrown off there will be two safety nets: their Parents and the State.
NotUpToAnythingGood 8y ago
I am a son of a single mother. My two saving graces were...
I recognized early on that my mother was an example of what not to do with one's life.
I know I got damn lucky in catching on to critical lessons early in life. I also benefited from spending a large portion of my early years and late teen growing up on a farm where personal responsibility was the rule of the day (Grandpa makes & enforces law).
My mother still hasn't made anything of herself despite turning 61 this year. She rode the CC hard in her 20's & 30's. She was then and is now still a total train wreck. The best thing to happen was that she gave my half-brother and me up to my grandparents (her parents). The last I heard from her, she was married to a wife beater.
Unfortunately, few children get the chance to break out of shitty situations. I did and have made a point to teach my children the right way to lead their lives. I've taught them about my childhood and the troubles I experienced due to the single mother & children scenario I had.
Liberal7newbie 8y ago
why don't you save your mum?
NotUpToAnythingGood 8y ago
Before someone can be helped or saved, they have to want it and be willing to work for it. It's the same reason we don't try to save every guy.
Besides, it would be improper of me to do so because if she doesn't want to be saved, doing so would eliminate her agency. It goes right back to Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness.
She made her choices. It's not for me to gainsay them. I can and did use the results of her poor choices to make my life better.
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to have my large family back from when I was a kid. But my mother made some stupid choices in her life (abusive bfs/husband, dead end jobs, having sex with minors, no drive to improve herself, etc). It would be wrong of me to invite that calamity into my family (wife, four daughters). My family does not need that trouble.
Liberal7newbie 8y ago
damnnn!! She's way worse than I thought.... Well please keep your daughters safe. Good Luck!
NightwingTRP 8y ago
Absolutely legit criticism.
My primary concern is that OP is building up the actions of a man who got a chick pregnant (not Red Pill. Short of a chick off her pill and your condom failing, this shouldn't happen with a plate) and then is apparently doing nothing to raise the child (thus damaging that child and creating another beta or slut and effectively reversing his positive contribution to the gene pool by allowing it to become a negative one.)
The point is not so much that we don't know the truth... it is merely that the "truth" being shown to us is being endorsed as Red Pill behaviour. We could debate all day about all the possible realities that could be going on here... all I'm focused on is what he's endorsed which categorically not Red Pill behaviour. The guy may be an alpha, but he's not Red Pill. We would not end up in such a situation and even if we did, we'd probably handle it differently - it's highly unlikely a Red Pill man would end up in this situation, behaving like this. It would require a combination of lots of bad luck and a big dollop of fucking up badly on his part.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
What thread are you reading??
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My guess is he didn't want the kid, she refused to abort, thought it would tie him down and force him to stay. For all we know, she could have fucked with the birth control to make herself pregnant. Its clear he doesn't want the baby. He can basically choose to pin himself to this hag and a baby he doesn't want, or he can do what's best for himself and live his own life, go out and fuck other women.
A redpilled guy doesn't give a shit about "society" or other people's needs, a redpilled guy focuses on numero uno first and foremost. He's looking out for himself and making sure he has fun and enjoys life rather than making himself miserable for the sake of an ungrateful cunt and a baby he didn't want.
maniclurker 8y ago
We don't know, so why assume?
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IllimitableMan 8y ago
The red pill is about recognising reality, it doesn't legislate morality.
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vengefully_yours 8y ago
So a chick gives you the "oops, I'm knocked up" news and she is nothing more than a warm moist place to jack off, and because he doesn't marry her, but it's paying support, he is a deadbeat?
So quick to judge.
Ever stop to think why he left? Perhaps the bitch is crazy, bipolar, bpd, or some other shit. Doing the "right thing" and keeping her is your idea of a plan? Never been in that situation have you?
Been there, done that, got my kids, 68% of my gross, and almost everything I owned taken from me and given to her. Then she bitched just like this cunt does, said I didn't care about my kids, and did everything to take the blame for being a horrible waste of skin off her and make me look like an abusive villain. You have the common prejudice that dude just up and left her, not that she ended it for whatever reason and believe her now that she whines to the Internet about how much of a victim she is.
Yeah girls are always the victim, men are always guilty. A dad who isn't there is always a deadbeat, and she can't possibly be the entire reason he isn't there.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
Deadbeat was too strong. It's not aimed as a personal attack against guys like you who've done the best you can within a shit system with some of the worst circumstances. The point was it's not something we want to be encouraging guys here to end up doing. My assumption is that you weren't Red Pill when all that crap happened to you?
These guys are getting so carried away in seeing the chick making her own fuck ups and laughing at it, that they're endorsing the behaviour as though it's where Red Pill guys should end up. And it's not. A man who is Red Pill before this sort of shit happens, shouldn't end up in that situation, no? The most basic "don't forget to wrap your dick" should prevent this ever happening with a plate unless you are extremely unlucky.
It is precisely this as to why TRP is all about taking responsibility for the contraception because we've learned from the experiences of men like you and we're trying to use it so that, at the very least, your suffering through this was not in vain. It is the contributions of men like you that are exactly why I've come to the conclusions I have. I do not judge you, I learn from you and simply judge the situation based upon what I've learned.
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This. For being TRP theres a bunch of morally superior fags on here. Cuckening indeed.
Docbear64 8y ago
My mother in her early 30's when she had me was an aggressive , uncontrollable ball of anger , for much of my childhood she stayed the same but as she's gotten older I think being angry requires more energy than she's willing to muster usually resorting to pettiness now .
I grew up believing for the longest time that my dad was an irresponsible hateful deadbeat whom she was kind enough not to slam with child support payments . Oh did I hate him for abandoning me and I adored my mom for being a hero .
After reading NMMNG and realizing my vision of my father was COMPLETELY based on what my mother had taught me to feel for him we had diner and chatted . It was only in that conversation where he reminded me of who my mom was when I was a kid that I truly saw how much he had been demonized in my eyes and hers for a long time . He mentioned trying to send child support checks only for her to call him curse him out and tell him to stop it ( unfortunately something I could see her doing) . How he tried reaching out between the 1st and ninth year of my life and she outright refused contact until I was 9 ( Naturally I was sold as if he had abandoned me and dodged my existence) . All of this assisting him developing into an alcoholic as he had no contact with his only-child . My father is no saint himself but The paradigm swing to see that perhaps part of my abandonment issues stem from a vindictive and spiteful mother has taught me you really can't believe everything you're told or even hat you see.
I say all of this to say that you are absolutely right , not saying the woman doesn't deserve pity on some level but no one should assume because she is having a " bad day " and crying on reddit that this woman is any hero or her dude is the scum of the earth . She may be a horrid human being who knows how to sell her victimhood and as someone who has seen his mother do that and developed an irrational hate for a person responsible for 50% of my existence you can never truly know .
The women aren't always right , good and / or the hero that's the kind of thinking that got us into this situation today where the value of men and women is completely out of balance .
vengefully_yours 8y ago
I've gotten that shit thrown at me often, as if I left my kids and never wanted to be around them. The ex had them believing I didn't send anything for birthdays and Christmas, wasn't paying support, and didn't live them. She is the one who fucked up the relationship, I endured her to protect my kids.
Having some fuck tell me I'm a deadbeat and abandoned my kids is enough to make me want to beat the fucker to death. My kids were taken from me by a worthless cunt, and the cunts in Nebraska assisted her in keeping me from them.
I find this is more often the case than dad just walking out and never coming back.
billsmashole 8y ago
According to her, he stopped paying child support.
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
Most men with access to their kids pay child support.
Many men who are denied access to their kids do everything they can to avoid child support.
This is not rocket science. You reap what you sow.
billsmashole 8y ago
I think he could have access, he just didn't want it. But all info is from the woman's point of view, so I'm sure there's plenty of victim card pulling going on.
4D6N2 8y ago
Good. Let her be "independent". It's what women like her have been screaming about for the last 50 years. Don't want kids? Don't have kids.
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That sounds bad, but when you offset it against the women's right to choose to his lack of choice it's a wash. It's not like he can put the kid up for adoption on his own.
Don't get me wrong, its totally fails my value system to take care of your family. But it puts him on par with a woman's freedom
billsmashole 8y ago
I was just stating a fact, because someone else acted like the dad was a saint who payed child support. He still is responsible because he chose to sleep with her without a condom I assume. We could debate this all day without all of the facts. But he should at least pay, but I'd get a paternity test before I would ever pay.
Shazoa 8y ago
That's a complete misrepresentation of what was said. I hate to generalise, but why do you see this attitude so frequently around these parts? People are very, very rarely attempting to argue something even close to 'Men are always guilty, women are always victims'.
When two people have sex, even if they think they're taking every precaution, they are both equally culpable and responsible for the creation of that child.
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
But only one partner has all the rights to the child while the other has only the duty to pay and almost no rights whatsoever except what the mother grants him.
--Visionary-- 8y ago
No, they're not when one party has something like 11 more different forms of birth control including and up to unilateral termination of the pregnancy. I hate this retarded false equivalence.
Ne_Oublie 8y ago
That's interesting, never thought of it that way.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
But only one is held responsible without a choice on if the kid gets born, the other can decide and has all the options, with the state acting as her shylock extorting the father at will.
The common attitude is that dad always leaves, and mom never does anything wrong. That is why the man is always guilty, and the girl always the victim.
All of this doesn't even address the issue of her pinning the kid on someone else. My own mother did that with my older brother, he isn't my dad's kid, but she told him it was his. Bitches lie and are rewarded for it.
Shazoa 8y ago
It doesn't matter what the common attitude is, though. The father does have a choice in whether a child is born, regardless - they can choose not to have sex. If you aren't ready to accept the possibility of your actions resulting in a child then don't have sex. And that does go for both sexes.
Taking an example where someone lied for their own convenience doesn't prove a trend. People lie, people can be dicks and that has nothing to do with gender.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
So by that logic, if the girl lies about the pill, sabotaged the condom, or pulls it out of the trash to put it in her, or blames you for a kid that isn't yours, then it's still your responsibility because you fucked her.
You're displaying a perfect example of girls can do no wrong.
Shazoa 8y ago
You've obviously not been listening or following my logic to come to that conclusion. I said that BOTH sides are equally culpable in regular circumstances. Nothing about girls doing no wrong at all, that's in your head.
vengefully_yours 8y ago
You didn't start off that way, your attitude is if you fuck, you're responsible no matter what. Smacks of religious bullshit and abstinence only horse shit. Everything I said is regular circumstances in the real world. You're in some pie in the sky wishful thinking place that doesn't exist.
Shazoa 8y ago
I'm not religious, and I don't advocate abstinence only. You are responsible for your actions no matter what though. Just cause you don't want a child, that doesn't mean you shouldn't accept the burden if you do end up with someone pregnant.
maniclurker 8y ago
Holy shit thank fuck I'm not the only one. I see all these people circle jerking about how shitty she is and how much she deserves it, and boohoo for the child... then they absolve the father of all responsibility.
The amount of garbage that has to sifted through to get to decent glints of knowledge on this sub is sometimes immense. There's good shit here, but it's buried in refuse like this.
deskgrunt88 8y ago
Yeah, no. Any woman who gets pregnant has at least ten opportunities to avoid this shitty situation, most of them after she has sex.
The gist of your position is that men should use condoms and if they don't want to be fathers, be celibate- that they should bear a penalty for a choice that isn't their own. Blue Pill is you, in this case.
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deskgrunt88 8y ago
Women have the right to abort. Men should have the right to abort financial obligation to the bastard and if they aren't notified of the pregnancy they should be exempt from it.
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Magnum256 8y ago
That's the point: we DON'T know.
How do we know the woman didn't poke a hole in the condom, or "forget" her birth control for a week? She could also take plan B or have an abortion, and by the sounds of it her ex was absent from the childs life since day one. Regardless the woman has a lot more control over whether to have the baby or not, the only guaranteed control a man truly has is abstinence from sex.
Either way we only have the womans side of the story and of course she's going to tell it in a way that is advantageous for her and paints her as the victim.
I really couldn't care less about the man in this story being "good" or "virtuous" or anything like that. Most of that is make-believe anyway as a way to force people to do things that society deems morally proper or advantageous. As long as he's following the law, paying the child support that the courts have ordered, then it's fine, everything's fine.
deskgrunt88 8y ago
Like that ever happens. And I didn't say men shouldn't wear condoms, but the fact that they're made to bear the responsibility for a choice that ultimately isn't theres is straight up bullshit. It amounts to "If you didn't want to be saddled with child support you should have kept it in your pants."
Say something like that to the stupid bitch in the OP and you'd get run out of town.
gtypoDD22 8y ago
Maybe this ain't the sub for you. In a perfect world a child is 50/50 but in reality it's more like 80/20 with the majority of responsibility falling on the female.
The guy pays his child support, that is all the law requires of him. He couldn't take a birth control pill, have an abortion, give it up for adoption etc etc. He has less rights and less responsibility.
maniclurker 8y ago
I think this sub is the perfect place for me. I'm not required to align with your views, especially given how illogical they are.
Maybe this sub is not for you?
gtypoDD22 8y ago
ROFL, leave an actual response instead of using buzzwords like a feminist. How is what I'm saying misogyny?
When men make stupid posts we criticize the man, when women make stupid posts we criticize the woman. 1 +1 = 2, it ain't rocket science mangina.
--Visionary-- 8y ago
The entire state apparatus and mainstream media would pin the blame on this guy while giving this woman every out in the book.
If you need your fill of that, merely hop on to virtually any website or read about extant family law.
maniclurker 8y ago
Well I'm not mainstream media, nor am I a state apparatus.
What I am is a logical human being that understands causality. They both made irresponsible choices. You seem to want to demonise her, while glorifying him, all for the same decision.
Seems kinda hypocritical, yes?
SYL3NZR 8y ago
The point being, a man has absolutely no involvement on the decision what happens to the baby, hence keeping it is 100% her responsibility, her rage on him and the kid could have 100% been prevented by her alone.
Given she "never wanted children" she prolly didn't use BC, intentionally or not, that's the first thing, she had like what is it 4? months in which you can get an abortion at any point with BILLIONS of signs you're pregnant. Even after that she could have given it away.
Since most likely he would have aborted if he had the choice, he did the nearest thing possibly, fuck off entirely and only do the minimum required by law.
It's very clear that she's 98% responsible for this situation, given how clearly this guy fucked off and never cared to begin with.
You can't blame people for having sex, only unprotected, we dont know that. fact is: she could have avoided all of this easily but chose not to, theres no argument, shes at fault 100%, because he has NO saying in what happens to a child, or do you really think a dude that cheated openly and refusing to pay child support and never sees the kid is interested in children?
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BluepillProfessor 8y ago
It is even worse than that. SHE can put the baby up for adoption in many cases even over his objections. Again, men have almost no rights to their children yet these asshole white knights and women insist on equal or even greater responsibility.
I say fuck off to the lot of you.
--Visionary-- 8y ago
No. It's a retarded false equivalence. She has multiple ways and means of avoiding her situation INCLUSIVE of avoiding having sex. He basically has 1/10th of those options. So if you want to parcel blame out, fine, parcel out 1/10th of it to him. Yet, if you read these comments, a good 30 percent or so (so above and beyond what would even be reasonable) are mewling about how unfair it is that we blame her for stuff but not him like totes because waaaah for her. Give me a break.
Yea but you can read those sources if you just reeeealllly need to blame dudes for stuff.
You're trying to imprint some semblance of morality on an amoral philosophy. That's inane.
maniclurker 8y ago
Was it his dick? Did he slip and fall, and accidentally dump a load of cum in her twat? Please, you cannot absolve him of responsibility in his choices. Our society may give her all the power when it comes to keeping the child, but she certainly didn't impregnate herself. It takes two to tango, and two to fuck. It's not a false equivalence, you have to back that incorrect assertion.
I'm not looking to blame men for anything more than the shit we already have to deal with in this world. However, I'm not going to glorify some dude that cheated on his girl with another, knocked her up, then dropped both of them off like sacks of trash at the dump. That's how I got into this world. I don't think it's very satisfactory. And if we can have a debate about morality and human behavior for any given subject, it can most certainly be applied to sexuality.
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
So just keep it in your pants if you don't want to pay?
Fuck off with repeating what your single mom told you over and over again all those nights. You need to realize the argument not your womanly emotions.
Women have 99% of the power. Men have 1% of the power. They can go MGTOW or they can wear a condom. That's it. The choices women have are outlined for you but you still want to make the man equally responsible. He would be if men still owned the children. They don't. women have 99.99% of the power after the child is born. Yet you are still desperate to assign 50% of the blame.
Why is that?
maniclurker 8y ago
What? I don't remember abstinence being mentioned. Not sure where you're going with that.
I do not remember my single mom ever bothering to rationalize her poor sexual choices to me. I think that was what you were asserting. I can't be sure. Regardless, I've never been concerned with the discussion.
Don't hurl insults like a bitch. Definitely don't imply that I'm speaking from emotions when that is the basis of just about any denigratory remark. Try to have a somewhat civil discussion.
What's the context here, dude? Are we talking about sexual selection? Society? Child custody? Are you just being vague to leave yourself wiggle room in case you misstep in the argument?
Are you implying that we should stop reproducing? Once again, I can't tell. Your shit is vague.
It's not that I want to make the man responsible. It is that he is equally responsible. At least, in context of conception. Yes, if you pump some girl full of cum, you are in fact exactly 50% of the parties involved in the fucking.
Did she have every opportunity to terminate the pregnancy, and save herself from her current shitty predicament? Yes. Was that 100% her choice? Yes. Of course, that is given ideal circumstance, and ignoring events in our society like abortion clinics getting bombed, or overly-religious dogmas she had no choice in being indoctrinated into.
I agree. The woman is almost 100% responsible for the child being born. I was never refuting that, though. He is 50% responsible for the conception. That was his error. And unless TRP is all about spawning bastard children to repeat the shitty cycle we have in place, then I wouldn't call his actions very red. Just irresponsible.
I'm not willing to praise him for his irresponsibility. I'm not willing to demonize her for hers.
Why are you?
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
Sure they are. Except some people are more equal than others.
I am talking about sexual selection, marriage, divorce, child custody, social custom, social pressures, all of it.
Men are NOT 50% responsible for conception when women have 100 methods of birth control, while men have TWO methods- one that greatly decreases sexual satisfaction and the other involving abstinence. By my count that is a ratio of responsibility of 98 to 2. Women lie ALL THE TIME about taking the pill, or "I can't get pregnant."
Also, when men lie about condom use is it considered RAPE. When women lie about birth control it is suddenly 50% the man's responsibility. Why doesn't a woman's lies at least absolve the man of legal responsibility as has been the case for all of human history until the 1960's?
Keep giving out the pussy pass...and enjoy the decline.
maniclurker 8y ago
Let me teach you how to have a discussion. Apparently no-one has. First, you take in what your opponent says. Then, you think about it. Then, you respond to the points that he's making. What did you do... Selectively picked out one thing to respond to, then went off on some asinine, unrelated tangents. Well, you pretentious shit, I put some thought into responding to your points. Now, you will do the same, or you can go fuck right off. Capiche?
So, try again, and if you have anything else to add after responding to my points, you can add that later.
--Visionary-- 8y ago
I'll repeat for you what I've said in numerous other comments when someone tries the idiotic "it takes two to tango" routine:
In other words, try again.
We ALWAYS blame men for women who basically make horrific choices in mates and then try to foist the consequences of those decisions "equally" on the chad they fucked, despite everyone knowing it's not "chad" who's going to pay for those consequences (everyone including the girl who willingly fucks him). It's practically become a cultural trope at this point. Girl fucks bad boy chad, then whines hard enough about how it wasn't her fault so that beta male society comes to her rescue. Other girls watch, then decide to fuck chad too, because it feels good and the consequences are for beta male society. Rinse and repeat.
But if you want to make a moral argument in a sub about an amoral philosophy (which is groundless, but for argument's sake), then it's probably not a good idea to further empathize with such women when they make idiotic, totally avoidable, mistakes.
The "waaaaah let's make sure she feels good by foisting half the blame on the mean guy who she fucked by choice and then didn't use any of her myriad of UNILATERAL options often given freely by the state to stop the pregnancy" is precisely what got us into this inane mess of a society in the first place.
By the way, it's not about "glorification" of this guy for most of the respondents. It's about glorification of red pill philosophy almost EXACTLY DESCRIBING THE PHENOMENON WERE IT TO A PRIORI PREDICT THE OUTCOME.
IOW if a nuclear bomb killed a bunch of people precisely in the amount that a mathematical model predicted, you might not agree with the morality of the bomb drop, but you sure as hell would be able to say that the model is unbelievably accurate and useful. And you'd be idiotic to go on a sub dedicated to that mathematical model to whine about the morality of bomb dropping.
Magnum256 8y ago
Morality is a man-made invention mostly used to control peoples behavior through social reinforcement. The only thing that really matters is laws, which admittedly are also man-made, but have tangible consequences.
Saying that this guy is an asshole, or dishonorable, or is not virtuous, none of that really means anything. None of it's a crime. I couldn't care less. By what she wrote it sounds like he's fulfilling his court-ordered duty of paying child support and so he's doing his part.
You're right that he's equally at fault for the initial conception, but that's where the buck stops. She could have taken plan B or had an abortion, or been on birth control to begin with. Maybe he was wearing a condom and it broke or she poked a hole in it. Either way this whole situation makes her sound remorseful for her choices. The woman could have solved the problem before it even became a problem but in her twisted mind probably thought that having a baby would be amazing and would tie down her ex for the rest of his life. This is what many women think when having a child, they imagine the Nuclear family, the little house on the corner with a white picket fence, the days of sitting at home fucking around on Facebook and shopping while the man's out making money, and they think it sounds fantastic. When it doesn't work out that way they get depressed and feel like dumbasses, and that seems to be the case here.
maniclurker 8y ago
I took a step back and thought about it again. To be honest, I don't think much of the guy for his choices. I don't think much of her, either.
We all lament the loss of masculinity in our society, and I think one of the obvious declines would be how we're losing good male role models.
This guy just added to that growing problem, and so many here are giving him their best internet high fives they can. Seems a little counter-intuitive to me.
Given that... I understand where you're coming from. The other responses have been lacking in their disagreement. For what it's worth, I agree that it was 100% on her to get rid if a pregnancy she didn't want. I've been there myself. I just don't think this is an ideal way for us to conduct ourselves as a society.
gtypoDD22 8y ago
Question retard.
Is the guy up on social media bitching about how "unfair" his situation is, or is the woman? If it was the guy on that post saying the things she was saying I would be the first one jumping down his throat, as would everyone else here.
But it's not... Get the fuck off this sub, you are bluepill to the core. Go read huff post or some shit.
maniclurker 8y ago
Last I checked, TRP isn't actually misogyny. Get out of here, ya angry weirdo.
gtypoDD22 8y ago
ROFL, leave an actual response instead of using buzzwords like a feminist. How is what I'm saying misogyny?
When men make stupid posts we criticize the man, when women make stupid posts we criticize the woman. 1 +1 = 2, it ain't rocket science mangina.
maniclurker 8y ago
Says the angry neckbeard dropping buzzwords left and right. Get a life.
gtypoDD22 8y ago
Still no actual point. Typical beta, talks a bunch of shit that he can't defend.
maniclurker 8y ago
Are you always a spazz? I imagine you get food all over yourself when you eat. The mental image... glorious.
Baja_fresh_potatoes 8y ago
But he's paying his quota. How does that make him a deadbeat?
harsha_hs 8y ago
If it makes him deadbeat, be it. It's not like a jailterm. If someone calls me a deadbeat, I give 0 fucks and call her a cunt and move on. NEXT
Overkillengine 8y ago
Payments alone don't raise successful children. The child will likely become another single mom or a felon thanks to society not enforcing responsibility on all involved parties.
And we have a surplus of human dross as it is.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
Payments alone are not what was discussed in the OP.
Baja_fresh_potatoes 8y ago
Forcing responsibility on a person against their will through guilt rarely results in true support. It's a shit situation for the kid all around.
Overkillengine 8y ago
Then one is allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good.
At this point we are left quibbling about probabilities, such as the prospect of forced responsibility acting as a deterrent, etc.
Fact: Humans respond to incentive. Fact: Western society has been removing incentives to form and maintain stable family units to the point of deterring it.
Is it 100%? No. But nothing in life is other than death, so by that standard of thought we should just all kill ourselves since no one will live forever, right?
NightwingTRP 8y ago
Yeah, absent fathers who pay their child support are excellent role models and precisely what we want to be... it's not like we've identified that behaviour as a problem or anything...
Stop posting for a month or two and lurk more.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
WTF are you bitching about the father for?? He fucked around, had a kid, is paying for it and fathering it...who shit in your bed?
4D6N2 8y ago
And who says it's voluntary? You're taking this harpy's word for it that he's an absentee father. From what I've read, she's probably a psycho bitch who has a restraining order against him for "domestic abuse", and used it to get him as little time with his daughter as possible. Now that she sees just what that means for her, she resents him and it's somehow his fault. Seems to me like you're using the kid as a shroud to white knight for an irresponsible, unstable, unfit single mother. Sure, her kid is probably having a shit time. Nobody doubts that. But given the fact that she has custody, 95% of the reason her kid is having a shit time is her.
Baja_fresh_potatoes 8y ago
Alright, no need to type out commands. I agree that the kid will be disadvantaged and that the guy is hurting his kid by being absent. "Deadbeat" is usually reserved for men who don't pay child support. It sucks for the kid. Realistically, the mom has no skills or resources to raise a fully functioning member of society by herself, but a dad sticking around when he doesn't want to is likely going to cause a whole new set of problems. It's a lose lose situation for the kid. I don't think the dad is a deadbeat. An asshole like the mom, but not a deadbeat.
harsha_hs 8y ago
historically, there was well established patriarchal family system. It makes sure that the kid is not disadvantaged. family system works like this : girl stays virgin till marriage, has sex with only husband after marriage, she is submissive to him, delivers his children and nurtures them, he takes care of future of both wife and the kid, happy ever after.
Now, who the fuck decided to mess this system in which everyone wins. You screw up your business because you're an idiot and now you're a beggar and you're at a disadvantage, and now that I have some money because I worked my ass off at work. So, naturally I have to give you money, because you're beggar, oh so sad?
hardtostarboard2016 8y ago
except that in this society, the deadbeat part does not mean not being there as a father... it means not paying child support.
NeckbeardVirgin69 8y ago
There is definitely truth to this.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
Yep. Also, it doesn't really mean that-it means that the mother has a stick up her ass about being tossed over for being a cunt, and the father has decided on younger, hotter, and more temperate women.
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The people here at TRP constantly rail against society, yet you choose to follow this one aspect to listen to? Pathetic.
You all rage against feminism, and rightly so, but you all forget the true victims in this new society: the children.
SYL3NZR 8y ago
When children are constantly being used as "leverage" against men we cannot move forward, a sacrifice has to be made to move forward as a society.
Once we get to the point where the male has ANY saying about opting out of parenthood legally, i think everything will be better, because it would prevent millions of stupid whores trying to get the government to cuck males via force, stealing of money and public shaming based on said laws.
In the short term this would mean alot of children/single (to be) mothers get fucked over, but that's the sacrifice.
maniclurker 8y ago
No, it means being worthless. Don't attempt to hijack my language with your shitty definitions. The guys a loser, knocked some girl up, wanted to dip out on responsibility. It's not red pill. Red pill would have been making sure she didn't get knocked up to deal with child support. So now, that kid gets to have a shitty life.
It's okay, daddy gets to fuck other girls though. He's a big strong, neckbeard scion that gets to exemplify all we hold dear as TRP.
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maniclurker 8y ago
Uh oh. Big bad neckbeard caught some feelers! I better prepare before I get doxxed for disagreeing with his parroted ideologies.
LOL.
Toolman890 8y ago
Did you miss the part where he said 'doing the quota of parenting he needs to'? Would you prefer the guy had unwillingly stayed with this woman like an obedient beta? Possibly you believe he shouldn't have came in her, but then I'd wonder if you are a virgin.. half the point of having a gf is getting to have proper sex without a condom. She has the power of birth control and abortion. She is 100% the responsible party for bringing a child into the world.
Wallstreet3 8y ago
No. Every man is responsible for governing his reproduction. It is 100%. And so is she. 100%.
Don't wanna be a father and have the responsibility, get a vasectomy, wear a condom, exercise due caution in partner-selection, pay for her birth-control and make sure she takes it.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
This is irrelevant to the post.
Shazoa 8y ago
Yes. This. And even if you're using contraception, you're still responsible for any accident that occurs.
GC0W30 8y ago
You can never be sure she takes it, bro.
Overkillengine 8y ago
Thus the condom and vasectomy.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
Does it make your head hurt to view everything in such black and white terms?
Wrap it for all plates. Doing otherwise is distinctly the opposite of Red Pill.
Yeah, this fantasy world in which women take responsibility sounds nice... let me know when you find it. The rest of us are going to be pragmatic.
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
I would like to know who downvoted this?
christohari 8y ago
100 agree, it does take more than the min. the government mandated you have to pay/spend time with you child. And i also agree with wallstreet3. You cant trust anyone to manage your life but you. If you absolutely dont want a kid, then wrap or vasectomy. Even if she says she's on the pill, its still on you, cause you have control and the ability to do something. The takeaway i usually get from this sub, personal responsility. You are in control of your own life.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
At least somebody realises the pragmatism today. Thanks. I was about 1 reply from leaving the community.
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NightwingTRP 8y ago
So much morality involved in this.
Telling someone not to view things black and white. Saying that wrapping your dick is standard red pill behaviour and thus getting a chick knocked up and exposing yourself to this stupid situation is not red pill... so much morality influencing this.
Jesus, has TRP taken stupid pills today? What the hell is wrong with everyone today.
Toolman890 8y ago
It was his GF, not a plate. If you expect men to have condom sex forever then just lol, may as well stay home and masturbate. Like I said, half the point of having a GF is so you can have condom-free sex. Thanks to the inventions of birth control AND abortion, she has absolute 100% control over whether or not to bring a child into this world.
The only world in which you are correct is if this guy agreed and wanted the baby, then changed his mind and ran out.
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NightwingTRP 8y ago
Being an alpha and being Red Pill are not the same thing.
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A true alpha protects his family. Alpha-ness is at its essence biological, and biologically we are wired to be protective of our family/mates. You all are making the same mistake in honestly just not considering the child. Alpha does not mean not caring about anybody but yourself.
Put yourself in this child's position, having to live with a mother that hates her. Now tell me, does morality still not come into play? Would you not feel any remorse for not being there for this kid that is absolutely partially your fault?
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
What family? The children belong to the woman by law and by custom in the U.S. You don't even have a right to see your kids unless the wife approves. Once I went to pick up my son at preschool. I had ID. My boy tried to run to me. They physically held him back until they called the mother to make sure it was OK for me to pick him up. The Aunt was allowed to pick him up the prior week without ID.
I have seen dozens, scores, of men denied access to their young children for YEARS. If they could spend thousands and thousands of dollars they MIGHT be able to have 1 hour a week of supervised visitation after a year or so. By that time the kids are already calling the next guy "dad" and are filled with stories of the "father who abandoned you.
Your argument is for men to "man up and protect your family or your not a real man." Except there is no family. There is a matriarchy where women have 99.99% of the rights and men have 99.99% of the duties.
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You're just straight up wrong, and this highlights the biggest issue with TRP, you use words but don't even understand the meaning.
Alpha in the context of sexual strategy is a tiny aspect of it, that's all TRP discusses. You think you know what it actually means to be an alpha just because you can use it to manipulate some chick to fuck you while we live in a hookup culture? Congratulations
Alphas are in a lot of different animal species. They are the largest and strongest, they get the most females, and they protect and lead the betas/omegas. They stick together and work together. What they do NOT do is just pump and dump you fucking mongoloid.
Go read a book and get educated.
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slay_it_forward 8y ago
Most deadbeats are alphas and alpha is what's aspired to be here. How do you reconcile this?
Also, it's the woman's fault for getting knocked up by a guy that there was no future with. I'm surprised he's even paying child support.
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slay_it_forward 8y ago
I'm in High School and mentally retarded. Come at me bro.
koolaid_zombie 8y ago
"You're going to be lonely and bitter for the rest of your life"
Now where have I heard that statement before?
Five_Decades 8y ago
A big part of TRP philosophy is to seek female validation by having sex with as many fertile women as possible. Doing that tends to lead to a higher rate of pregnancy with multiple women.
I know people say TRP is about self improvement, not getting women. But come on. To a large degree it is about self improvement with the goal of getting women (getting thinner and fitter, earning more money, becoming more self confident, etc).
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
TRP is male sexual strategy which is to get lots of women if you are PUA, avoid women if you are MGTOW, and stay married while having lots of sex if you are Married Red Pill. Some also use Red Pill to look for a LTR/marriage (aka "Unicorn Hunting").
Where is the female validation seeking approved by TRP praexology. We seek females because we are men and want to fuck. That is not a desire for validation. It is a desire to fuck.
NightwingTRP 8y ago
With great ease. Corey Worthington is the alpha buddah, but his wreckless behaviour is not endorsed by TRP.
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NightwingTRP 8y ago
You carry on thinking you're smarter than one of the giants of TRP. Also, nice job missing my point.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
Also, stop being a prick by putting your lies and delusions into my mouth. I respect Rollo as much as anybody here does. Even Einstein wasn't correct about everything.
If I hurt your feelings it is childish, wrong and contemptible for you to try and get validation by saying that I put myself above an icon.
ETA:I deleted the offending post, as I believe it was out of place.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
Yes, that is EXACTLY what I said, isn't it? /quitbeingsuchadicksarcasm
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This attitude is pathetic. That child gets to be raised by a mother that hates her and herself because of TWO irresponsible individuals.
I sincerely hope you use condoms, the kids don't need more pieces of shit like you.
Baja_fresh_potatoes 8y ago
I do wear a condom, and I don't intend on having kids. Not because I'd be a shit dad, but because global warming is gonna make life hell for the next generation. Doing my beloved children a favor by being educated and not having them.
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What the fuck? Amorality is never a good thing by its very definition.
This is the exact reason so many people hate TRP, and for good reason. This place has become a cesspool of pathetic pieces of shit like you.
You are all taking the things you hate about feminism (man hating) and adopting them into your own viewpoints towards women. Have some self awareness. Women are not evil, children are not evil, amorality is not a positive thing in this context.
ArkAngelEV 8y ago
Not gonna lie, i got a hardon reading her lamentations
Strum_Gewehr 8y ago
There is no schadenfreude here.
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TRP_McLovin 8y ago
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Apexk9 8y ago
She ain't that bad.
A bad women would put the baby in a storm drain.
[deleted] 8y ago
Could you tone down all the "dumb slut" and "pathetic ass" stuff. Its really offputting. Not all of us have the seething hatred for women that you seem to have.
Cold_Reality 8y ago
You appear to be...
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Shazoa 8y ago
Relishing other people's misfortune makes you a fundamentally fucked up person. If you truly can't empathise with another's misery then you're missing a core part of humanity.
Why would you even want to derive pleasure from the pain of someone else?
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The person in that case is a fucking asshole with a double digit IQ who got what was coming to them. Its fun to see the beauty of karma. I'm so fucking glad she's suffering, fuck her so much.
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Shazoa 8y ago
I'm genuinely concerned for your mental health. There's no beauty in someone's suffering. What has she ever done to you to provoke such a response?
[deleted] 8y ago
She got pregnant outside of marriage and now she's soapboxing about her entitlement.
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GalaxyGlorious 8y ago
Wow you should kick her in the leg dude. Bring in that mighty leg kick like you did your sister. It's totally a classic.
cazzah123 8y ago
Another thing I noticed if the obviously shifting of blame and an attempt at making her the victim.
"I wish you were a good dad so I could just give her to you, she deserves better than me."
Breaking it down shes done a few things.
Said hes a bad dad without directly saying it. Its his fault because hes not a good dad.
PaulMurrayCbr 8y ago
Dude is a player, by her account (cheating on her and on his current gf). Why did she have the kid if she did not want one? It was an attempt at making an anchor baby, to keep him in her life.
Stupid. Didn't work.
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playingwithfyre 8y ago
I took it to read as he cheated on her.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
Have you read any of this thread?
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Lets get real for a second. HE should have used protection too. Sure, she's being an entitled cunt about it, but he also was an idiot in not wearing protection anyway.
babybelly 8y ago
well at least she reproduced in her prime
dicklord_airplane 8y ago
all the schadenfreude and revenge fantasies here are pathetic. it's no better than a man-hating radfem ranting about how she enjoys male tears when men get fucked over in divorces. you're that radfem's mirror image. i suggest that you grow up and get a life if you take pleasure in these stories.
johnchapel 8y ago
For real. Buncha recently-hurt little dickbabies in this thread.
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DigitalDegenerate 8y ago
The slutty stacy could always do everyone a favor and off herself by slitting her wrists. (Down the middle, not straight across skank!)
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Good, I hope she jumps from a bridge. Kid will be better off without such a whimpy mother.
TheeEmperor 8y ago
Having children is wonderful, but when their mother respects you as a provider it is glorious.
Askada 8y ago
This is fucking golden. Notice how she takes zero, fucking ZERO responsibilty for anything. In her mind none of this shit is her fault.
melonmagellan 8y ago
You say "her" baby a lot. They're both this child's parents. Also, you suggest that he is paying child support in your post. According to the OP he stopped his payments.
No one stopped this dude from wearing a condom or having a vasectomy. Birth control is not 100% the woman's obligation. In fact, you'd think a red pill guy would be all over wearing protection to prevent knocking up a "dumb slut."
Finally, birth control does fail. It's not 100% no matter what method you use. From how her post reads I think her problems would have been solved by having an abortion as she never wanted to be a mother anyway.
You post reads as a bunch of woman hate that doesn't even make sense. I see nothing red pill about this guy's actions. If he ever had frame seems like he lost it and is acting like a manchild.
alkyjason 8y ago
You're right, no one stopped this dude from wearing a condom. But we don't know that he wasn't wearing one. Maybe he did wear one and it failed. Maybe it broke. We don't know.
And as far as the child support, pull your head out of the sand. No man just gets to decide on his own to simply stop paying. If a man so much as misses one single payment, he is threatened with jail time. Sounds more to me like for whatever reason, she stopped seeking it.
I don't really see anything wrong with this guys' actions. If this guy was not acting 100% in compliance with the courts in regards to support payments and custody time, he'd be behind bars.
Painislove2016 8y ago
She has NO ONE to blame but herself. It's 2016, there's no such thing as an unplanned baby. Condoms, the pill, IUD's, implantable bc, Plan B, and if all that fails, abortion on demand.
She childishly SOLO decided she wanted a
puppybaby, and now doesn't want to care for it. Boo Hoo.Do whatever your conscience tells you, but as the man in this situation, it will always be cheaper to move on with your own life and send checks. Fuck her for trying to trap a man through pregnancy.
NolanKnowstheTruth 8y ago
She says she didn't want kids, never did, but engaged in unprotected sex and/or did not take steps to protect herself from getting pregnant? What a fucking dumbass. I would say she needs to find some Uber beta bitchbut I hate seeing guys do stupid things....like take on someone else's responsibility and LTR a girl that loves what the guy does and not the guy.
deskgrunt88 8y ago
Fuck me. Even on the red pill everybody goes into protector male mode for this bitch.
Screw that and screw her. She made the decision. We live in an era where, for women, the choice to have a kid is almost completely removed from the choice to fuck. I have absolutely no sympathy for an irresponsible idiot like this one, only the poor bastard who had the misfortune to be born to her.
Rogodin 8y ago
Yep, there is no fallback for men, women on the other hand have everything PAID for.
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It's not even about the time and money commitment. I'd rather watch someone fuck my wife then raise their shitty kid. I'd rather burn money than spend it on their shitty kid.
ScarletNumbers 8y ago
Read the comments from Jelese111
Bodybuilder1453 8y ago
Hahaha this is just beautiful! I fucking hate women like that. That stupid fucking bitch got what she deserved. The fact that she wants her former husband to suffer with her, just makes my blood boil. But thanks God he got out of it and found a way to still enjoy life and leave her miserable.
I love happy endings :D
babybopp 8y ago
Chances are the guy she keeps railing about, might not even be the kids biological dad.
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Typical woman stupidity. Nothing new. All shit that could have been averted by taking the birth control or abortion they proudly fight over.
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i-omega 8y ago
One more discarded child will grow up to be an adult, hating the absent bio-father. And most likely will have to deal with more emotional issues than her mother.
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BluepillProfessor 8y ago
In most cases they think of the children as just another technique to control the men in their lives. When the men refuse to dance, the White Knights and women come out to criticize and destroy him while sympathizing with ther person who is mostly responsible.
Women use their pussy like a money pit. Why wouldn't they use their fuck prizes in the same way?
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This dude is kind of a piece a shit though. Nothing red pill about being an absentee parent
johnchapel 8y ago
Exactly why are any of you getting pleasure out of this?
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
I furiously masturbate to revenge porn and the White Knights really send me over the edge. Unfortunately I can't even get it up for this thread.
johnchapel 8y ago
Im upvoting you for being brave enough to deliver such a committed sarcastic comment.
Barsukas_Tukas 8y ago
Probably because of "anger phase" and revenge fantasies.
johnchapel 8y ago
Little bitches in this sub lately.
"Ha Ha! That woman is SOO FUCKED and she hates her life and realized everything we think is correct and now she'll never be happy HA HA!!"
Like fuck that shit. Get over your ex girlfriends, and worry about yourselves you gossipy little faggots.
DRMMR76 8y ago
If only there were people who would have told her to lock down a high value man when she was young, hot, and childless and to stay loyal to him so she could have a good life with him.
Oh wait, that someone was probably her grandmother and that advice was cast aside as obsolete and sexist.
ramot1 8y ago
"doing the quota of parenting he needs to"
Doing the quota of parenting he's allowed to!
Courts seldom vary from the two weekends/ month system, although I did get lucky with mine.
prodigy2throw 8y ago
Why is this a top post on this sub? It's just a person venting about the stupid mistakes made when she was 20. Sounds like she perfectly understands why people don't want to deal with her situation and is just getting her thoughts out.
You boys gotta stop hunting for outrage porn. Go out and live your life. Fuck women, wear condoms and make money.
loin_fruit 8y ago
There's this girl I was super into in high school but never had a car to go on dates with her. Fast forward and she was married to a dude. Had two kids with him then they divorced. Since then without fail she dates a dude and he leaves her. She fucks them right away and then they leave her.
Of course right after this happens she tries to go on social media sites and show off her body and tits. Claiming it's because she's proud of her body. But it just so happens to always happen after a break up. Purposely trying to lure dudes in to date her with her sexuality. Yet she can't seem to understand why dudes don't stick with her for her long.
[deleted] 8y ago
Can I just say as someone whose mother shouldn't have had children I really feel for that little girl, she's going to live with anger and resentment for the rest of her life.
aanarchist 8y ago
she did it to herself, all she had to do was treat him well and they could have had a good relationship that went the distance.
it must burn knowing that she's still attractive at 25 but most men will just want sex from her cuz no sane man wants to deal with the kids.
IronMeltsinmyHands 8y ago
Whoop de freaking doo. A woman is miserable. When is a woman not unhappy?
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Women are only happy when they are unhappy
IronMeltsinmyHands 8y ago
YUSSSSS!!! fucking smash that nail on the head!
[deleted] 8y ago
Apparently when they follow the red pill path as well.
IronMeltsinmyHands 8y ago
Does that mean we will eventually abolish (so to speak) free sex eventuality? Because women aren't doing themselves any favors by burning their bras, twerking their asses, and sleeping around.
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It means that self-actualized women will stop having sex with men that have nothing to offer and are unwilling to commit. Essentially, good "wife material" will expect to be treated as such, while easy sluts will continue being miserable and riding the CC until the wall.
JackGetsIt 8y ago
I'm sure this child will grow to have a healthy well balanced view on men and women.
[deleted] 8y ago
Probably gonna be preggers at 13 due to shit abusive mother. Rinse and repeat.
[deleted] 8y ago
Stripper if female and a criminal if male. It's so sad that's the state of our society at this point.
babybopp 8y ago
Funny thing is that these type of girls are the ones you see on PoF or okcupid with a menu of requirements for a guy. When you see "must be 7'11 ' , 'am not here for hookups' or 'am a loving mommy to a kid that is my life'... Know you have hit pay dirt.
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newmeforever 8y ago
Shes a piece of shit, and so is the dad.
VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
And people wonder why we think single moms make shitty parents.
Oh, and having a kid didn't ruin her life, being stupid and not using birth control ruined her life.
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This gives a little insight to my situation. Its a little different because my ex and I were married for 7 years and then divorced. But the need for control over baby daddy and loss of that control sends women into a downward spiral.
A little brief insight what I went through: Soon after I had another kid with a woman who had no kids and was fairly well-off financially, shit started to sour with the ex. It always was contentious, but after it became apparent that the situation between my girlfriend (now my wife) and I was extremely serious, my ex lost her shit. I kept the pregnancy from her (because she's nuts) up until only it was unavoidably noticeable by my other kids. When she found out, the ex called me and demanded a reason why I hadn't told her about the pregnancy. I just laughed and said that Why is that something I need to talk to you about? Of course the ex REALLY didn't like that. My wife and I were like O-Kaaay.... She's acting like a crazy person.
Fast forward to when my son was born I told her (abiding by the divorce decree) 48 hours in advance that coming Friday I would be unavailable to take the older two kids on normal visitation because my wife was getting induced and she flipped out saying that NO I needed to take the kids. I said if you have already made plans that's cool - I've already worked it out with my parents - just call them and they'll come pick them up and they can hang out over there until it's time to come visit the hospital after the baby is born. We want the kids to be able to come and see the baby anyway. Again, not good enough of an answer. She's really getting worked up at this point. I just say I don't know what else to tell you, you're just going to have to get over it or you can call my parents - you have the number.
Ends up the baby is about to be born right around the time weekend pick up usually happens. I'm in the delivery room and my phone starts blowing up - its the ex. I answer it once and say I'm at the hospital and to call my mother to come get the kids. She freaks out. I hang up. She calls back over and over and over. I don't answer. Instead I call my mom and tell her the ex is going nuts so expect a call, and then turn off my phone. So yeah I had to turn off my phone while in the delivery room having a child because my ex was having an emotional breakdown over it.
Really, from that point on the ex - who always was a game playing manipulative selfish jackass - became a really bitter game playing manipulative selfish jackass.
A little time after the above incidents took place she met some dude who was being evicted from his apartment and moved him in to our old house. I think this is going on 6 years now and he still lives there. He hasn't had a job all this time. He does have a daddy who is a partner in a local law firm that has some prestige in our area. The bf's daddy has represented my ex for FREE against me in court when she started pulling some of her parental interference/aleination bullshit. It's a weird non-acknowledged quid-pro-quo they got going on over there. I know the family isn't flowing them cash, because they are not living high on the hog over there, so its the free attorney.
What 40+ year old woman with a graduate level education and a professional job has a live-in boyfriend who is broke as a joke? I'm talking - no income - no bank account - no savings - no retirement fund - nothing. Usually adult professional people at that stage of life drive nice cars, go on vacations and have a little ching stashed. Not her.
Think about this in terms of Briffault's Law. What is the benefit? Free attorney services against me. Keep in mind, my ex has pretty greenish blue eyes, nice tits and even though she's let herself go these last few years - if she went to gym tomorrow and was somewhat committed with a diet she could be a smoke show in reasonable short time. If she did that she would have little trouble finding a dude with a decent job. Instead of doing that and moving the fuck on with her life, having those things that adult people like having, she is literally living her life to make sure she can continue to fuck me over on visitations.
Think about how batshit fucking crazy that is.
Meanwhile, I'm over here with popcorn watching her support some unemployed drunk loser just so she can have unlimited attorney services at her disposal to keep me at bay after all the fucked up stupid shit she has done.
My wife and I are doing the grown up thing. We have new cars, beautiful new house, go on vacations... All that shit. Ex wife is busting her ass working, trying to get promotions, but still driving an old beater with her phone sometimes going temporarily out of service. Again, just so she can keep putting the screws to me.
Funniest part is. The kids are older now. I'm never going to take her back to court. I know she's sweating a recalculation on my eldest turning 18, but I'm going to let it ride. I'm going to pay the extra couple of hundred bucks a month for 2 years just so she wastes more of her fleeting youth with this loser. By the time she shakes him she's going to be like 47 ha ha ha. Briffaults law and all - when the benefit ceases so does the association.
Here's the thing. When you are the baby daddy and they start playing all these fucking games with family court and all that shit, they LOVE it. That gives them control over you. They get to dictate to you about how shit is. Money comes out of your check and goes into their bank account and it's no small fee. Them getting to fuck you over like that gives them a mad thrill. That's not the whole of it though. They're mad at you and maybe even hate you, but they still want the relationship benefit of control over (and attention from) your ass. You're still the baby daddy. That's something they can't let go of. After a few years tick by and the dust settles the man begins to figure shit out - especially the money situation. He starts making more money. He adjusts his life to the new normal. Baby momma is very used to him being at her beck and call when she needs shit. After she sticks 6 knives into his back because she's an idiot who can't control her emotions, he starts politely denying and ignoring those requests. Then when a new woman comes into the picture - the new woman steps in and regulates that shit even further (in non-TRP-dude cases especially). Now baby momma has zero control (and zero attention). All she has at that point is the check that comes and the legal child sharing agreement that says this day and that day - and if she fucks around with drama she risks her monthly checks (if she doesn't have free attorney services).
What the girl OP showed is going through is very similar. She's through the game playing phase and now things are in a routine. He's moved on and she's come to the realization that little game is over and she has nothing. The control (and the attention) she had is long fucking gone. 25 and bitter is a shitty place to be - and she's right fucking there. A girl like that needs to be hot to get a man. She probably doesn't have opportunity to go to the gym, because of the kid. She's living a shitty existence, busting her ass, relying on her parents to have roof over her and her kid's head.
When you are the baby daddy, women think they own you - you are supposed to do for them - AWALT. But sometimes they fuck that shit up by being a HUGE CUNT - or they just get hypergamous - or both - and the relationship ends. Now if the baby daddy is a beta fag - she'll get to keep him being at her beck and call. If the dude is not a beta fag and actually moves on with his life banging other women, getting remarried, or just having a great life in general doing whatever the fuck he wants it becomes the most EPIC Wile E. Coyote moment that dwarfs any and all others for the baby momma ex.
Reverse_Gash 8y ago
Fuck, I'd swear you just wrote the past 9 years of my life...
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9 years is exactly how long it's been for me as well.
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So I dont understand why cutting the 2 bills monthly will motivate her to cut the loser free. Still, ill take your word on it and love the fact that you are willing to play victim and burn 2500 bucks so she starts deeper in the hole with late 40 SMV i do this shit at work all the time. May I suggest hinting to kids that you are considering pulling support so she doubles down on the loser for attorney service she won't even need?
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It will cost me more than that in attorneys fees to get support reduced so it's a wash. Every time I have litigation against the the ex - the bf's daddy employs a bleeding strategy against me and ties me up in legal fees - makes everything cost double and triple. Trust me I would love to not have to pay child support, but I look at this in terms of the long game. My kids will be adults with their own minds and opinions and that's not all that far off. For me, it's about keeping my side of the street clean. My kids will know that in terms of total cost I have paid a premium so they can live with a roof over their head in relative comfort. They may not fully comprehend that now, but in time they will. Being a man who takes care of his family is important to me. My conscience is clean.
I traded real estate equity for support reduction years ago, so the monthly hit isn't killing me. Its a boat payment. So instead of having nicer boat, my kids have a nice home and food in their mouths. Call me beta if you want, but I can sleep at night knowing I wasn't a selfish prick and fucked over my own kids. I made the sacrifice and faced the tougher road for their sake.
When those payments stop coming the ex is going to be fucked. She knows it. She's hustling now to try to get promoted in preparation for that eventuality. Was it tough for me for a few years? Sure, but for me now the money represents a slight reduction in luxury. For her, it's survival. My kids are under that roof. Being alpha isn't being a dick for the sake of being able to be a dick. Its being able to feel mastery over one's condition and navigate life on one own's terms. Years ago I made a choice to give the house up and start over. It was a good choice because it brought stability for my children.
I don't see myself as a victim. I made shitty choices and had to face the hard consequences. I faced them, overcame adversity and thrived. I was able to rebuild my life. Unfortunately, we live in a society where fathers can lose their parenting rights over false accusations and procedural bullshit. Technically, I haven't lost any rights - I just can't get the judge to enforce the agreement. She says "we're not here to punish" (which is bullshit because they have no problem holding threats of punishment over my head). I'm not the first man to experience this and I won't be the last. It sucks, but then again so do rainy days. I have control over neither.
She got lucky as fuck she found free attorney services, tbh. If not I would have gotten custody probably. For that though she's paying a price. What's happening to the ex is a device of her own doing. I didn't make her be a malignant mother personality disordered psycho. I didn't make her choose an unemployed loser for a boyfriend and move him into her house. She did all that. All she had to do was collect checks and not be a parental alienating loser. She could have found a nice little beta with a job and lived pretty well - but she couldn't do that. A few years ago I decided that was it - I dropped all litigation and said fuck it. I was done fighting her. Since then all I've done is sit back and observe in grinning bemusement. She could have a much better standard of living - instead she's made terrible choices and blames me for the outcome of those choices - and its fueling a cycle of self-destructive bitterness and resentment that's having a profoundly negative impact on her life. Am I experiencing some schadenfreude watching her shit up her life in obsession over this feud she has with me? Absolutely. Why the fuck not? She's a total bitch. You reap what you sow.
[deleted] 8y ago
This reminds me of the class argument over the new family unit. What used to be a nuclear family is now moving to a financial support model that poorer demographics cannot compete with.
Essentially keeping the poor from having kids who can compete in the modern era, since only the affluent can afford child support enough to keep kids from being fucked up later in life.
sennhauser 8y ago
Posts like this are the reason everybody hates this sub.
mikesteane 8y ago
At least she's not trying to persuade other women that single motherhood is good, or that they would be better off if they divorced their husbands.
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This is an example of why no guy, no matter how much of a fat neck beard loser he is.. Should ever let some slut who sleeps around with multiple chads make him feel low about himself or feel anger/vitriol toward her.. Slutty stakes are pitiful and their existence ultimately meaningless past mortal earthly breeding. They're they type of woman who would serve as concubine to invading tribes. This is slutty stacy's ultimate fate. She gets "accidentally" knocked up by a Chad, but Chad knows she's a ho and has no desire to stick around or be in the kid's life. It wouldn't work out anyway because slutty stacy is incapable of being a wife.
So now slutty stacy has to raise a bastard child all on her own and has to rely on government handouts or family support. Either way, her fate and future is now VERY closed off due to her bad decision making.
So even if you're a fat virgin neck beard at 30 years old, at least you don't suffer the same fate as slutty Stacy. You have the freedom to do whatever you want whether that be spending your days gaming in your grandma's basement or getting fit and career focused.
[deleted] 8y ago
Exactly. Plus, what kind of self respecting man would get in a relationship with a single mother who got that way through these type of circumstances? Even if I wanted kids, this scenario shows that her decision making is very questionable.
[deleted] 8y ago
Well, say you have 50 plus man.
50 Plus man meets a woman whose 45 , has two grown or nearly grown kids and makes 100k per year.
50 plus won't be too crazy to date her. My big problem with single moms is the other guy WILL eventually be an issue in some fucking way. If he died in war or someshit then I guess this doesn't apply
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I love how he phrases it as "being hung up on something." Like its some character defect or something.
sheyLboogie 8y ago
This little rant of her's, is quite disturbing. I feel like she could harm the child, so that she wouldn't have the responsibility of it. Women like this make me sick. No wonder she's alone.
Magnum256 8y ago
Haha, I mean personally I think cheating is a dick move, but the fact that this woman is using this against the guy is hilarious. Obviously she doesn't give a flying fuck about the guys new girl, she's just using it as a reason to be more upset. I'd bet any money she contacted the woman, not to help her, but to fuck with the guys life. Hopefully this guy's smart enough to shut her out from all of his social media and cut any third-party friends because otherwise this bitch will be on his ass looking for dirt for the rest of his life.
cashmoney_x 8y ago
Actually this is just sad. Poor kids man.
TheBakonator 8y ago
So let me get this straight.
Woman doesn't want the child + Man does want it = Abortion.
Woman wants the child + Man doesn't want it = Pay child support/Jail.
Where's the option for the guy to opt out?
mikeymop 8y ago
How would jail be a result? For failing to pay?
I also brought up the same point and was deterred because it's "the woman's body"
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mikeymop 8y ago
Can't, or refuse? It's fucked up regardless.
[deleted] 8y ago
Both. It's essentially debtors prison.
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that's 10 chances where she had complete control to find out whether he was committed, before and after, and if she wasn't 1000% sure that he was on board, she could have shut down the situation, full stop.
she still did nothing.
people who make decisions of that level of seriousness on maybes or hunches or even no level of commitment from others are truly damaged goods.
GrowlingBears 8y ago
Engage hypersonic hamster damage control machinery. This is ground control, we have ignition, switchover to internal bus in 5. Airframe stable, the hamster has broken the sound barrier, confirm supersonic hamster. Telemetry nominal, radar track confirms velocity vector. Acknowledged, we have a Mach 7.2 hamster leaving the stratosphere. Congratulations to woman-kind for putting hamsters in space!
You nailed it man, babies don't happen by themselves, unless you're a Jew named Mary, and they sure as hell don't happen in a day or three. You have so much time to have the conversation afterwards if it didn't happen before conception. The attempt at blame shift is painful to read about. Several generations of people, actual living breathing PEOPLE, raised by this level of irresponsibility.
On another note, that kid has no chance whatsoever. I have sympathy for the kid, the mother is getting what she intended just not in the way she fantasized. Welcome to the end of modern civilization, here's your gas mask and herpes resistant suit. Please mind the gap, it's full of feral women and discarded babies. Seriously, the damned train is the least of your worries.
Pires007 8y ago
Planned Parenthood and Sex-ed courses, these two things need to be more funded, not less. Still, there's a lot of personal responsibility involved, and people need to realize the consequences of their actions.
LukesLikeIt 8y ago
If she told him she was on the pill when she wasn't does he get to avoid child support?
HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
Women are not equipped to make a reasoned and measured decision of this magnitude in a responsible way. Odds are she simply saw the child as a strategem for locking the father down, and she did not consider the long-term repercussions.
Overkillengine 8y ago
I've seen it happen - and it did not work out as planned for the woman.
Which is why men should not rely on women making the right decision. The harsh reality is that their thoughtlessness is enabled high and low.
She will get the feels. She will consider having an "oops". Best to either abstain from a woman that one does not want to have a child with or go fucking overkill on birth control that is not under her control!
christohari 8y ago
While I agree with you that she could have done something after the fact, initially that fuck up is on you tho. You had the ability to do something about it beforehand, but did not. There is just some shit you ALWAYS have to handle yourself. I mean there are even certain tasks i would not trust my own father to do, cause if its gonna be done right (or wrong) then its still on me.
tyrryt 8y ago
As fucked as the legal and political systems may be, and no matter what women, sjws and the pop media say, a father has responsibility for his children. For their existence, as well as development and support. His act produced the child, he chose that woman, he chose to accept the risk.
To try to avoid it by whining and crying victimhood is to stoop to the level of the honorless cunt in the submission post.
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Overkillengine 8y ago
Ding! Plus they'll beat you with experience anyways.
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tyrryt 8y ago
He can't legally choose to have the child killed in utero, or to prevent such a killing.
But those decisions only occur once the child already exists, and that existence is his responsibility, the result of his choice to have sex with the woman.
PianoIsGod 8y ago
Don't know why we're celebrating anyones actions in this. This dude is not "Red Pill". Just sounds like two losers to me.
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casemodsalt 8y ago
Posts like these make me all warm and fuzzy inside ????
Rossy61 8y ago
Well... I am in fact a 25 year old who is currently in bed with my beautiful newly born 3week old bouncing baby boy. I think I could very possibly be the happiest woman alive right now; regardless of the fact that I am a so-called "single mother".
As a matter of fact, the baby's father wanted nothing more than to be a part of the child's life but I simply don't want him to. I WANT MY SON ALL TO MYSELF.
I am supporting my son perfectly fine all by myself working as a freelancer so I have all the time to spend with him raising him while still being able to provide for him.
Before I had him I had been pregnant before by a boyfriend that I was involved with for over a year but because I had relied on and expected "him" to play the father role, "we" decided to abort. But clearly God forgave me for that fateful mistake that had cost me my sanity for a few years after the fact, and now God blessed me with the child again and brought him safely into my arms.
The thing is, I find myself searching high and low for a fuck to give about what anyone else has to think or say about me being a parent "out of wedlock".
The question is, when you say "single mother", it is that opposed to what? Married mother? Lol...
Once the red pill has truly taken effect, you realize that the notion of co-parenting is a farce just like its cousins monogamy, love and marriage.
Signed Slutty Stacy
TheYellowPill 8y ago
You win the most selfish mother award. So selfish you deny your son a male role model and a father. Co-parenting is not a farce according to all the statistics of kids with no father.
But you're clearly delusional. You talk about God, but I'm pretty sure God's against "out of wedlock". I'd say you're a tragedy of the feminist narrative.
Oh and when your son is old enough to ask where Dad is, I don't think you'll have the courage to tell him the truth.
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Is this a troll post? This is parental alienation and a form of child abuse.
makeitproductive 8y ago
A farce that has shown the best outcome BY FAR in every single study. Monoparental families with single mothers are the best indicator to predict future incarceration. It's also associated with psychiatric disease, academic failure and divorce.
That kid will grow up without a father role model and with a self-described selfish slutty mother. I wish him the best because he has it fucked up from the start.
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johnchapel 8y ago
Im upvoting you because you're in exactly the same situation as the girl in OP, yet you're happy with it, making this situation unquestionably one of preference, and thats going to confuse all the dickbabies going through anger phase in this thread.
Momo_dollar 8y ago
Fuck her, fuck the dad... Fuck all the people that replied sympathising with her.... Only one I feel bad for is the kid.... and when/if he/she grows up to be a cunt then fuck him/her too
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She writes that she wishes her ex were a better father so she could grant him custody. That's just so funny. If he were a better father than he is, she would be guaranteed to freak out, and do everything in her power to reduce his visitation and poison her daughter's mind against him. The cycle will continue. The daughter will copy the mother.
favours_of_the_moon 8y ago
She's mad, because she was doing it to try and trap him.
And failed.
Overkillengine 8y ago
Dude may have been desirable to women, but he is not redpill.
A redpilled man would have used a condom and/or vasectomy instead of relying on the woman to make a rational decision. Doing otherwise is not taking responsibility for one's reproduction just like some silly bitch.
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Just when I thought that I have seen every single type of scenario I can think of, I see something new. Girl gets knocked up by Guy and the guy leaves her, which isn't surprising. He stops child support payments and then, the woman literally says that HE IS BETTER THAN HER for the daughter. This is like some kind of Stockholm syndrome shit.
ozzRNG 8y ago
No, she did not. She wrote "Fuck you for being a shittier parent than me. I wish you were a good dad so I could just give her to you, she deserves better than me."
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grachuss 8y ago
I'm in my early 30's and can't tell you how many times I've had single mommys get pissed off at me, that I don't want anything other than ass from them. Had one go thermonuclear when she found out I was seeing a 27 year old with no kids, after I broke it off with her. Sometimes it feels like I'm getting one over on society lol.
ImmaKissUpForKarma 8y ago
Stood up and whipped my dick around after reading this.
Her misery makes me happy :)
bfwilley 8y ago
I'm 25 and have to move back in with my parents because I'm a single mother who cant find a roommate willing to live with someone else's child. I can't afford all the bills and rent without someone to split bills with, especially when a month of daycare costs more than a month of rent. I have a full time job and still cant make ends meet. I do love my daughter, buy I've been miserable ever since I had her. It's been the worst 5 years of my life. I did not and still do not want children.
Wast of oxygen, what a loser.
Stonish 8y ago
Seems like she would exchange her daughter for some of dick. This is ridiculous.
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Ofcourse she didnt explain why the father left.
I'm not going to assume anything, but logic tells me if I wanted a child, I wouldn't leave him after he/she is born.
[deleted] 8y ago
Lol at the top comment. "I can't offer any advice or any help"
What the fuck are you commenting for then.
ABC_Florida 8y ago
What good is this gonna to you? Taught a German word to the readers? What good is having a fucked up mother raising a daughter to be fucked up? Who wants to be with a fucked up depressed, life-hating, post-partum mother? Pretty soon not even her own daughter. It is a sad situation, because that girl gonna grow up starving love and care, and will be to inexperienced not to be fucked over by someone who wants a girlfriend experience. The only good thing I can think of is, that they're not someone I truly care about.
On the other hand he is a shitty man if he left her by choice. I mean, if he did not even try to reason, that he does not want a child, then he is shitty. Else simply she was exercising her privilege to decide whether or not she wants to be parent.
Rogodin 8y ago
Who gives a fuck? This bitch is stupid.
ABC_Florida 8y ago
In case you wanna reproduce, you should give a fuck.
Rogodin 8y ago
I have three kids (I'm here as well as their mother), they're smart as fuck and will end up not being a stupid fartknocker like you.
ABC_Florida 8y ago
So you gave someone a fuck.
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jewishsupremacist88 8y ago
I am racist and "islamophic" (more like I just realize Arabs as a whole are subhuman retards, but not as low as blacks) but the quote from the Koran hits the nail on the head:
"When the prophet looked into Heaven, he noticed it's inhabitants were the poor. When he looked into hell, he saw women"
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
Because they were ungrateful to their husbands....
Have to admit. Big Mo nailed it right there.
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This is why I think depression is a state of mind and not a disease. She only has depression because she made poor decisions in her life and fucked everything up. If she didn't have a kid and made good decisions, she would be living a good life and depression would not be in the picture
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It's a way for your body to stop getting you to do shit because apparently the shit you do is really dumb and hurts you.
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koolaid_zombie 8y ago
Only you can answer that.
I find it highly unlikely that you loved your life while simultaneously being depressed for seemingly no reason.
Depression must stem from something. It's not like you caught the depression flu one season.
blackierobinsun2 8y ago
If women knew to keep quiet none of this would've ever happened
SnickeringBear 8y ago
Three points worth making:
"she was too stupid to use birth control." This is as much his responsibility as hers. A true redpill would have done something to avoid the pregnancy because it compromises his financial independence.
"he's getting a place to live for free" Real men make their own life and pay their own way, freeloading on someone else is NOT redpill.
From the internal statements, I would not classify this as a good redpill example. He made a child, he is not paying child support as he should, he is leeching off someone else for a place to live.
She did not hit the "wall". She is "damaged goods". This can happen from catching an incurable disease such as aids or herpes II. Hitting the wall is when a woman ages out of the sweet spot from 18 to 30 years old.
SuckMyFist 8y ago
I guess this is the only good thing to come out of the pedo-hysteria promoted by feminists:
In a few years the insanity will reach the sky
Prison terms for men "caught" alone in the same room with a child
GeneralDoli 8y ago
Nobody minds a sane hot chick with a kid if kids are in their plans, but I'm sure as fuck not helping anyone raise a niglet. By the sounds of it that's what we got here folks. When getting back at daddy goes wrong.
ExceptMrsWallace 8y ago
Raise a what? Are you retarded?
(Those are rhetorical questions)
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