Testosterone is a primary male sex hormone. It is the substance which makes nearly all male animals so distinctive from their female counterparts.
It makes lion’s hair grow and it makes feathers of peacocks so beautiful and colorful. Testosterone is what makes men men - naturally taller, more muscular and stronger. But there is something about testosterone, which you’re not probably told about very often. This substance also affects your aggression, confidence, what you’re interested in, and what your body language looks like.
Simply put, testosterone affects your brain.
There’s a reason, why have men have always been leaders and protectors of the family and women have always taken care of the children. And there’s a reason, why the same role of leading male and caring female is natural for wolves, horses, lions and the majority of other mammals.
The reason is testosterone – hormone which affects your brain and makes it work completely different than a female brain. There of course other hormones, who affect your behavior, but testosterone has the biggest effect.
This law of the jungle still worked in our modern concrete jungles, which we call cities until 1970’s, when feminists started to gain the upper hand and this natural balance changed. What hasn’t changed is that humans are still biologically very, very simillar to humans 10 000 years ago. They’re still the same sexually distinctive creatures as in the Neolithic era.
The moment your brain starts differentiate from the female brain, begins very, very early. Since the time every guy was in his mother’s womb, he was constantially under influence of testosteone.
„When an embryo is formed, it isn’t possible to identify its gender. Simply put, both male and female embryo looks the same for the first few weeks. But after about 8 weeks, something very interesting occurs in a male embryo. The male embryo gets flooded with testosterone and other hormones, it immediately starts to develop its reproductive system and completely differentiates from the female embryo. This is called a 1st stage of development. Second stage of development occurs from 6th month of pregnancy to about 4 months after the birth. The male brain goes through a process called „masculinization“, which irreversibly changes its structure and the brain becomes masculine.
These changes in the brain structure give us answers to questions like:
Why boys are more interested in cars and girls in dolls?
Why do men completely dominate engineering, science and mathematical fields despite decades of feminist effort?
And why most of politicians, presidents and leaders are men?
The masculinization of the brain is very complex and largely unexplored, therefore I’ll show you only major differences between the male and female brain here. I’ll keep it nice and simple:
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On average, the male brain has significantly more connections between nerve cells than the female brain.
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On average, the male brain also has a higher percentage of gray and white matter.
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Again, on average, the adult male brain has a bigger amygdala and hypothalamus. These two brain centers are involved in fear and danger. The reason, why men are more assertive and fearless, is because these areas are enlarged in male brain. This allows men to act, not hide in a corner, when stressed.
- There’s also evidence that the male brain is more system driven. While females are more interested in faces and socialization,a big percentage of men are literally obsessed with systems. This is the reason, why there are so many guys who are crazy about cars, engineering, math, science and programming.
It should be noted, that the changes in the brain above are permanent. They are also just a tip of an iceberg, the male and female brain supposedly have more than 100 differences.
Once the brain is „masculinized“, you will always feel like a man, and be testosterone driven for the rest of your life. When the brain isn’t masculinized, the brain stays „feminime“ and it is estrogen driven. You can’t just change gender of a boy by putting him in a pink dress or by cutting girl’s hair and giving her boy toys.
Someone already tried it, and it did not work out as planned. This means that gender is not a social construct, and never will be. And this means feminists will never build the society they want, because they simply ignore biological facts. As simple as that.
EDIT: Someone asked for a sources, so here are some, which may prove my point: https://www.edge.org/conversation/simon_baron_cohen-testosterone-on-my-mind-and-in-my-brain http://www.crossdreamers.com/2012/08/the-story-about-viktor-and-viktoria-and.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_sex_differences
EDIT2: There are dozens of you, who don't understand, what am I trying to prove. So first of all, read the sources I provided, before you comment. There is plenty of evidence in the second article about the role of testosterone on the brain development. Althought I couldn't find any invidual studies, the guy in the article has studied "masculinization" of the brain for decades. He's reputable enough, to not call his research "broscience".
Secondly, feminists, mainly in Scandinavia, try to convince people, that what what gender you're interested in, how you behave like, and what your interests are, depends solely on the way you're raised. They believe that you can raise a girl as a boy and she will be okay with it. But that's not how it works - take a look at the article 3. And this post is aimed debunk this theory. Men and women should not be forced to do jobs, which they are not interested in. Women should not supress masculinity of young boys, because that's what they just biologically are.
QuirkySpiceBush 7y ago
It might be interesting to read what cutting-edge neuroscience has to say about the issue.
Sex beyond the genitalia: The human brain mosaic
69petra 7y ago
It seems if I accept the argument that "gender is not a social construct", then I have to accept that argument that is put forwarded by "HomoSexual" community that they are born like that; which I disagree with. I think it is a lifestyle choice that a person is making and not the way they are born.
Moonshineraider 7y ago
I doubt anyone here needs a lengthy explanation on why gender is not a social construct
SherwoodDanger 7y ago
See in one study they found that men averaged a higher percent of gray matter, and in another study they found that men averaged a higher percent of white matter.
The cultural Marxist Frankfurt School feminist globalist Jews try to spin the data to say that this means that "no conclusions can be drawn from the studies." This means that they are ignoring scientific studies which prove that men have both more gray and white matter than females.
The only way that can be true is if men universally have bigger brains than females (which is common sense when you take into account how much more rational men are than females.) The studies which have compared brain sizes between men and females claim to "not show any statistically significant difference in brain size." These are buzz words to show that, even with their obviously manipulated data, there is a real difference that the Marxist academia just decide to say is "statistically insignificant."
That doesn't even take into account how most research is performed by male scientists with better things to do with their time than handle paperwork. The paperwork is done by the assistants who are basically secretaries, and are therefore obviously females. These females who handle the paperwork are therefore definitively the people who skew the data to push their ideology in the liberal universities.
The fact that recently more and more studies have been done on the subject of the psychologies and anatomies of the two genders, and that these studies continue to say exactly what the feminist globalists want them to say is just proof that the problem is getting worse. There are more and more females working as assistants in scientific research, obviously because of affirmative action policies. If you support science and oppose the genocidal agenda of the cultural Marxist zionists that push feminism, the only solution is to end affirmative action policies immediately. There is no other choice.
Proof. I'm surprised that the socialist NHS isn't too cucked to admit this.
stawek 7y ago
Male brain is significantly larger than female. Don't know about the west, but they teach that in primary school in Poland.
The size itself also doesn't have much effect on its own. There is no correlation between iq and brain size, for example.
SherwoodDanger 7y ago
Are you defending the cultural Marxist feminist plot?
CrimsonEllipse 7y ago
Of course gender isn't a social construct. It's obvious just by looking at demographics.
If gender was a social construct, we would see a whole spectrum of genders. There would be social-women, social-men, and social-inbetweens.
Admittedly, there are people that describe themselves as inbetween. But the percentage of them is so small as to be insignificant. Feminists and SJWs have an undue amount of social influence, and they consistently promote the inbetween option - it's shoved down our throats at every turn. And yet we have approximately 50% male men, and 50% female women.
Not all men are successful men, and most of them are spineless betas. But they are still men - the way they think, act, and look is still inherently male.
stawek 7y ago
Some of gender is social construct, building up on the natural differences. And it is a good thing - we should be teaching boys how to be masculine and girls how to be feminine.
sx_appeal 7y ago
Check out this story: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer and you will realize the title of this post to be true. Whether it is due to testosterone only or to other factors as well, it doesn't matter much I would say. But thanks for the post.
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I didn't see you sight a single scientific article to back up your claims. I stopped reading after the first paragraph. You need to calm down and stop making such VAST conclusions off of the information you've been exposed to.
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StrangeStart 7y ago
You know the last president of Harvard university suggested there should be a study to see if there were any differences between the male and female brain.
He was quickly fired and replaced with a woman for his ridiculous suggestion.
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
You misunderstand women and feminism.
Women don't want to be men. They just want free shit and an easy life.
There they were, taking care of kids and keeping house, and it was hard work. Because raising kids, cooking, cleaning, and maintaining a home is very difficult and very stressful. And often very under-appreciated. And they see Dad come home from the office, wearing nice clothes, working a respected job, getting lots of money for it, and having the gall to act like what he does is important when he gets to sit in a comfortable office with adults doing something rewarding and intellectually stimulating and getting paid for it!
So they decide that Dad has an easy, privileged life and why should they be working so hard? They want to have that easy, privileged life, too.
So they go enter the workforce and find out that getting a good job is hard, and regardless of what job you have, work is hard. And they immediately proclaim that this is all because of discrimination. Surely it wasn't this hard for men to get jobs and do them. And they don't get paid enough! The system must be rigged and biased against women due to years and years of patriarchal structuring.
So we start legislating to revamp the system in ways that lower standards for female hires, require certain percentages of female hires in some positions, give them maternity leave, day care, places to breastfeed, require a lot of woman stuff to be covered on employer insurance.
And women still aren't happy, because working is hard.
TomFoo 7y ago
From the horse's mouth, the great Ali Wong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfz6Ha1hogo
McLarenX 7y ago
Yup. It's why they study such bullshit as Human Resources and Psychology. Women seek comfort and rarely enjoy challenging themselves. Everything they do is a means to an end: reaching a slovenly, carefree state.
lord-denning 7y ago
You said it best at the beginning of your post - women aren't happy because life itself is hard.
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
I'm reminded of the fable of the fishermen who meets the genie at work
PIGamer86 7y ago
Something something Bill Burr.
TomFoo 7y ago
something something comedian
AmadeusCziffra 7y ago
Not that I'm one for fighting for equality, but I've noticed this and it always pissed me off: Women fought to have "equal rights" to stay at home or have a career, and they got it. They can now choose either with no criticism, as should be their right. But men are still expected to work. There's no job opening for stay at home fathers, no woman puts that option for you on their okcupid profile. They strived to get opportunities men never had to begin with. Once they got theirs, they moved to the next problem(manspreading™), leaving the other gender behind.
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
It is, very definitely, a woman's right to make her own choices in life.
It is hardly a woman's right to choose something "with no criticism".
In fact, it is a woman's right to reap the benefits and consequences of every single choice she makes, one such consequence being judgment, criticism, and condemnation. If you make a shitty choice, you're not free from judgment for that choice simply because you had a right to do it.
That's shitty blue pill thinking. That just because you have a right to do something and were within your rights when you made that choice, that means nobody can judge you for it or give you shit. That's bullshit.
AmadeusCziffra 7y ago
I wordered it poorly, if you think you can be a woman and have a career and then get a family out of the blue at 36, you're likely in for a rude awakening, and I wont feel bad. I mean they deserve the right to be allowed to work inside or outside the house. I suppose we have that right too, sure dont feel like it though. Not that I want to be a stay at home father, fuck that, but fuck the hypocrisy too.
i-d-even-k- 7y ago
There are plenty of women who'd love to have men that would stay at home.
Do you volunteer? In most civilised countries, either parent can take maternity leave with the exact same effects.
But again I ask. Do you volunteer to be a stay at home dad? And your wife will bring all the money.
vengefully_yours 7y ago
What she thinks she wants, and what actually makes her panties wet are usually two different things. Yes she might want someone else to take care of her kids, but she isn't going to want to fuck that individual. As if its hard to raise kids.
I'm divorced with two kids. When I had them for summer months, I did my usual work and the kid work. Before I was divorced, i spent countless hours with them, teaching them how to read, write, count, add, subtract, colors, shapes, hell my oldest daughter could tell a Firebird from a Camaro two blocks away when she was 4. At 3 she was running Windows 3.1 alone and playing games on the pc. That was 20 years ago.
I did all of that in addition to a full time job, working 60-70 hours a week. I still did it while running my own business. Care to guess what mom was doing? Spending more than I could earn, barely kept the house clean, and whined and bitched about how hard it was. The more I did to help her sorry ass, the less she wanted to fuck me and every nice thing I did for her made her feel guilty which caused her to start a fight. She would lose the fight and then feel like a victim.
I can tell you similar stories about the second wife, and we didn't even have kids together.
There is about two hours worth of actual house work to do every day, most people simply fuck off too much. I was military, and believe me we clean better than the above average housewife and still do our normal jobs even working 12 hour days.
i-d-even-k- 7y ago
So you would be a stay at home dad. Good.
That's what I wanted to know.
nezamestnany 7y ago
You're very much coming from the right angle, but I can assure you biological sex differences are caused by a lot more than just testosterone vs oestrogen
redhonkey34 7y ago
For the love of god. PROOF READ.
menial_optimist 7y ago
I just think most females would be happier in the caring/housewife role, but I do acknowledge a small minority of women prefer the career role. Feminists should stop demonizing their own kind that prefer the traditional natural role.
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This depends on culture.
Many Russian women did kick ass in WW2, many Indian women become amazing engineers. In those places women have just had to work , they didn't have an age of abundance( 1950s) where Billy could get a job at GM, marry Sue , have 4 kids and own everything a family needed.
HAMMURABl 7y ago
Indian women great engineers? What crack are you on?
Luckyluke23 7y ago
then why aren't they acting like they want to then?
HumanSockPuppet 7y ago
This is what makes vocal feminists the real sexists. They can't be happy for women making their own decisions. Instead, they've got be up in every other woman's business, shaming them until they sacrifice their own happiness for the sake of a populist narrative that hurts more than it helps.
Rommel0502 7y ago
I find this to be an endemic problem with the left in general.
TheReformist94 7y ago
I don't know if I'm convinced about that.women seem quite bored and trapped in relationships/the kitchen in general. They enjoy working/sluttijg around. The unhappiness doesn't come from working or not being a mother but the hypergamyy as there aren't enough menn above them socioeconomically
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menial_optimist 7y ago
Yeah, except this time it's radical women oppressing all other women (and men).
gjs628 7y ago
The problem is, feminists are looking at this in terms of gender roles incorrectly. "Men are MEN - providers - they work hard and bring money. Women are nurturers - they stay at home and look after kids! They nest! They gather! Work is no place for a woman! EXCEPT WE'RE STRONG WOMEN AND WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT YOU RAGING SHITLORD!!1!" No. That's NOT how any of this works.
Women would nest. They would gather, create, and develop. Being at work is no different - you're gathering money, you're creating something to sell - work, as it stands today, can perfectly accommodate women. The thinking that work isn't a woman's place is simply wrong.
The problem comes with the amount of work expected, and the amount of leadership required. Sitting in a group of women chatting all day and crafting baskets, gathering berries etc. is fine - you're doing that to support maybe yourself, your family, and a few others here and there. You can afford to be leisurely. But growing a multi-million dollar business? Completely different. Offices require performance, they're about efficiency and making money by maximising output, and having a group of guys working their asses off while their female colleagues gossip all day and get half the work done just isn't good enough. Maybe if you're answering phones, but not when you're making big decisions and leading companies. Again, Men make good leaders, but they need intelligence and/or Alpha traits since not all men would make good leaders, but far fewer women would make good leaders.
My point is this: women can be placed in roles they weren't traditionally placed in if it fits in with what they're naturally good at. But expecting them to go above and beyond their own instincts in order to ascend to a level they would struggle to attain (where a focused man could easily get to in half the time) is just stupid and its expecting more from them than they can provide. So yeah, of course women can work in offices, I just wouldn't task them with doing high focus, high intensity tasks that require extended levels of attention. Some, of course, might be able to, but just remember that for every female CEO there are hundreds of thousands of male CEOs who are just as good (if not better) at running their own companies. Look at what happened to Yahoo!
There is some truth when we say, "If women are capable of anything, then how come they've never successfully oppressed an entire gender?"
jimmyjoejimbob 7y ago
They appear to be working on it...
gjs628 7y ago
Only because (and this really mauls my balls) we are letting them. Hell, we've always wanted to make women happy, but our forefathers did it within the framework of respect and marriage - you can be happy within a marriage without stuffing 3 other cocks into you behind your husband's back - but the men of today are so willing to bend over backwards that this is literally something so many women are doing thinking it's okay, and it isn't.
What these feminazis need is a man to walk into each and every one of their bedrooms at 3am, throw a bucket of cold water over them, and say "Enough of your shit. I'm turning you normal if it's the last thing I do." The moment she opens her mouth for the first Cis-scum shit-eating tirade, she needs a good hard slap. Keep slapping her until she has nothing but nice respectful things to say. Bleach her pink hair, turn it a normal colour, remove the 17 piercings and laser off the GIRL POWER tattoos. Starve her and feed her only Caveman diet based foods while chaining her to a treadmill for an hour 3 times a day. Keep this up until you have a fit, respectful woman who understands that not everyone is there to make her ass happy and bow down to her. Yes, it's both impossible, energy intensive and illegal, but think what would happen if we removed this toxic element of smug hamplanets and "men serve me, here's my Man Tears mug" psychos. We'd be left with women who are fun to be around, don't shit all over society, respect boundaries, and understand that they're no more special than anyone else.
If only. Sadly, the way I see this going is that this is exactly what'll end up happening except it'll be done to men who don't worship their feminist overlords.
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Yes, agree with that entirely. And not just their own kind, either. Here we have 'women' who can look back at what men have done for women throughout history and turn around and spit in our faces, making up some bullshit about being 'oppressed'. I'm all in favour of feminists not being in any way dependent on men (although they are, of course), men should shun them completely. Fucking parasites. (that was not aimed at you, btw). They are certainly not welcome here. Anywhere that feminists go they fuck up and free speech goes out the window. http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/06/oxfords-new-feminist-hit-squad/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2KPeMcYsuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0
But, as for your small minority preference, yes, these are masculinised women.
Madison, G., Aasa, U., Wallert, J., and Woodley, M. A. (2014). Feminist activist women are masculinized in terms of digit-ratio and social dominance: a possible explanation for the feminist paradox. Front Psychol, 5:1011.
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
Women that don't offer me value aren't on my radar enough to spite.
They can do them. I will do me.
Unfortunately, I've yet to see a feminist of any note who can keep to their own damned business.
Dravous 7y ago
but you see your post is more correct than it lets on. it's not that they won't, they literally can't. they need resources, they need attention, they need to be protected or they simply cannot survive in the world.
they can't make themselves relevant in their own right, if they had to provide for themselves they would freeze or starve like the children they are tossed into the wilds. so no, they cannot keep to themselves because our indifference is their very real death sentence.
[deleted] 7y ago
I never have either. Can't stand these bitter hags; if they would just mind their own business I wouldn't mind, but they are the ultimate busybodies, always wanting to decide what other people should do, say, and think. If they get a foothold anywhere they are like a cancer.
Still, her post shows, once more, the female feeling of entitlement. You note that she thought marriage was 'oppressive' because all those poor women would have to put up with betas - because, you know, each woman was so wonderful that instead of having to have some guy slaving down the mines for her and her children she deserved the mine owner. Fucking ungrateful bitches.
[deleted] 7y ago
I think the fact that not all women are drawn to motherhood is nature's way of keeping the numbers of humans down (I think homosexuality plays a similar role). So actually they DO play a role in society. That one-child Chinese policy was right and proper, guys. The planet cannot sustain these numbers anymore.
Also remember that there is a difference between a woman with a good career and a woman who does not want children. Virginia Woolf was obsessed with her writing and would not have done well as a mother, as I think we can all agree. Women like that, with a vocation or an obsession, are simply not meant to be mothers and the fact that they are not forced to be is actually a blessing on their potential husbands and kids. Life with them would be HELL.
Women with a career are a different thing. They do want kids, and work just for the money. The reason why feminism supports them is that of course a man would hold the upperhand within a family if he brought in all the income (except in my parents' case. My mom bossed my dad around like crazy, but I loved him). So by encouraging women to keep jobs you ensure they are not in a position of dependence from a man.
But I agree with you that the second type of woman I have described is indeed primarily motivated by a desire to raise and provide for her family.
francinerose 7y ago
You're aware that first word nations under feminism aren't having enough children....
The people who NEED to not have children are those in third world nations that are breeding like rabbits, yet their numbers keeping sky rocketing....
The intelligent are killing themselves out of existence
Sinborn 7y ago
Idiocracy is a great movie about just that. Maybe a bit campy at points, but prophetic at others.
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Ecanonmics 7y ago
Which adds to the workforce unnecessarily. This forces the requirement a two income household to advance which further cements their dependence on a man. There is no benefit.
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Ecanonmics 7y ago
Lower prices offset with lower wages due to increased competition. Specialization? Who cares? Higher GDP sure, but with a weakening of the dollar that's also pointless. So yes, no benefit.
[deleted] 7y ago
Do you have examples of a feminist who demonized another woman who preferred to stay at home with the kids and take care of the home?
edit: guess not.
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I think they mean exactly what they say: they find women such as Ann Romney disingenuous when they claim they are full time stay at home moms, when they probably have servants attending to all things that were traditionally a woman's job in the home, so it's kind of laughable that the Ann Romney's of the world claim such a thing: it's almost a slap in the face to working class families. I can see their point. I don't think they would have an issue if Ann Romney actually sacrificed anything, but the author believes she's just a phony mouth breather who gives lip service to motherhood. And let's be honest, she did considering her husband was running for president. She could of given no other answer. She had to lie about her responsibilities in the home and as a mother. She couldn't say the nannies raised their kids while she ate caviar with Mitt on the French Riveria.
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It's garbage. It's a radical polemic from a Catholic op-ed. No thanks. Not even worth my time from a woman who also writes about how homosexuals need to be cured, lel.
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That's why it's garbage. She quotes some CNN talking head, then dives balls deep into critical feminist theory and begins quoting radical feminists and then claims, 'THIS IS ACTUALLY MAINSTREAM OPINION TODAY, and this is what these people actually think!1!!'. No, lady. I don't think that is what the CNN talking head was inferring at all. That's your own grotesque conclusion for your shitty article.
But if you want me to address the quote, I will say Simone de Beauvoir was probably very contemptuous of mothers. I do believe this wasn't a personal animus, but something informed by her commitment to communism and socialism during her lifetime, which saw this kind of work not benefiting the goal of a communisitic utopia. Communism (dialectical materialism, all that bogus shit) is a really fringe idea now of days, and nearly completely dead in any major university, so I really don't think this reflects the majority of feminist thought now of days, and certainly not the philosophy held by the CNN talking head; I mean it's possible, but highly unlikely.
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More or less, yes.
Bernie Sanders was not a communist. Socialism is alive and well, but communism as we once knew it is almost completely dead.
That's correct. Using a quote from 50 years ago and to then say this is what people think today isn't kosher in my book. Do you think that is fair? Should I quote something ridiculous someone said 50 years ago and then say this is a common opinion today?
AspiringMathsGuy 7y ago
If gender is a social construct then transgender people don't exist and are a product of social media. Feminists explode
prodigy2throw 7y ago
I feel like this is all common sense and basic fact to 95% of the world. Solid post but I just don't think it's necessary in this sub.
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MrJaggedArray 7y ago
I think you're creating a straw man. No-one is opposing women's freedom to work and to select a partner; I have not seen any apologists here for a return to the 1950s.
What people do oppose is the imposition of feminist values on society at large, mainly through identity politics and its ramifications in schools and universities, divorce and family law, freedom of speech, men's rights, immigration, and so on.
If feminists actually stuck to their nominal goal of obtaining equal rights for women under the law, everybody would be clapping on the sidelines.
[deleted] 7y ago
Fuck off to dreamland then, with all your 'abuse' garbage. The supreme irony of a feminist talking about making people 'go against their nature' is quite something. Here is the feminist fairy story:
Once upon a time, the Big Bad Menz kept all the cookies to themselves while oppressing the wymyn, who were kept in a kennel at the bottom of the garden. Then, one day in the 20th Century, some Very Brave Wymyn thought they would like some cookies too. So they stood up and wrote things on placards, like 'We want cookies too!'. And all the menz looked at the placards and said, 'Oh yeah! Sorry', and gave the wymyn everything they asked for, and the wymyn lived as happy victims for ever after, discovering ever more spurious demands they could make, ever more divisive ways to make relations between the sexes more shitty (or at least until society collapsed under the weight of so many useless bitches). Although, some of them did think, 'Why the hell didn't we think of putting up some placards 100,000 years ago?'.
Thanks to deluded idiots like you (there never was an intelligent feminazi), you will find out in the next couple of decades exactly how strong and independent you actually are. Meanwhile, go ahead, but don't ask or expect anything from men, especially not a relationship (feminist ideology is simply poison to relationships). Tell any man you encounter upfront that you are a feminist, don't lie about it and pretend to be a decent woman. Form your own company, don't just join a company created by men, make your own way in the world. We don't need you, and the less we hear from you the better. Leave women alone, too, you have caused enough misery for them.
That bit, at least, is coming true sooner than you think.
PraetereoBonobos 7y ago
Follows the rules and remain sexless. Traditional society was not sexually abusive because of marriage. You attract what you are worth just like men have SMV so do women.
SkorchZang 7y ago
You call it abuse, we call it building a working civilization.
What do you think is going to happen if all those betas completely lose access to pussy? They stop silently working in their cubicles and factories and mines and sewers for everybody's greater good, that's what. They fucking check out of the system forever, and Chad isn't going to pick up any of that slack for you, the way he does with your need for a good fuck.
So if that's abuse, then what's your intended use, woman? What the fuck are you good for? How should you be used for it to be good and proper? It's well-recognized in traditional cultures that sexual pairings based on women's feelings and romantic love are a fool's bet. Romantic love between a man and a woman is not a sufficient or lasting foundation to build a family upon. This used to be common sense too, even among women...
yyyyyiiiieee 7y ago
lol wtf did i just read, you seem lile such a ladies man...
I domt know the context but the question "What the fuck are you good for?" Is pretty easy to answer
dr_warlock 7y ago
It's a false dichotomy. Savage vs. traditional monogamous marriage.
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All you need to do is revise the marriage and child support laws so that they're equitable and punish those who disobey the contract or are terrible partners (i.e. adultery, violent/unhealthy behavior, poor money management etc).
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Here's the thing. Marriage and family doesn't work today because the government doesn't want it to. A contract is only as effective as its enforcement.
idontwanttostart 7y ago
Agreed. I don't want any woman to be forced into anything. I think a lot of women do mary for pragmatic reasons. I can't blame them for that in any way.
But it's not abuse. It's not right, but don't blame men for it. It's civilizations' evolution.
Backfist 7y ago
This line of thinking is why the manosphere has concluded that women naturally prefer being a part of a haram rather than monogamous with a beta. Harams are not good for society and it means that the weaker men whom often times are very talented do not secure mates and have no reason to work. If we want to have a strong society women have to fall on sword and make sure the men that need to be motivated are. Women also need to realize their primary job is raising children, men can run nations with our without women but everything comes to a halt when women stop having kids and raising them properly.
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PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
What do you think tinder is?
idontwanttostart 7y ago
Look up "haram", then look up "harem". I was just amused at the typo.
Idk
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Not all women are capable of raising kids properly. Ask a kid who has been raised by a woman more focused on her career, or an abusive one if he thinks that. Back then these women were simply forced to raise kids. Ask their husbands and kids whether they were happy about that state of affairs.
In a globalised economy, half the workforce is female, if you have looked at the American statistics, for instance. It does not really matter how much they earn. The point is that they are, like the millions of labouring men, part of the workforce. Within a globalised economy, you cannot even raise a child on a single-income unless that single income is above average.
The kind of society you describe is not one with a 21st century economy.
Hence, women's 'role' nowadays as you notice if you go out and about, is to be part of the labour force. They can have jobs, so they do not need the beta/omega. Yes, by the way, I completely agree this causes more suicides among men.
Backfist 7y ago
This is why the West will fail, replacement immigration can only go on for so long before the people that created the Western system are replaced by those that moderate women's role in the workforce. I don't think women get the same satisfaction out of their jobs that men do either, all the mid thirties childless ladies I meet don't really like their life but they do seem to all love wine. ~25% of women are on anti depressants so I think deep down inside everyone knows the current paradigm is bullshit but is too afraid to admit it. Women don't need to be 50% of the labor force but society is now rigged against families and we call it progress.
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The thing is, you are assuming these women would be happier if they were married to betas. If you have ever taken a look at a bitchy wife of an actual beta, you'll know the answer to that one.
It is a beta coping strategy to claim that women are happier in beta marriage. Women (except the quirky artists/writers/academics/whatever else who don't want kids at all and would be terrible mothers) want kids and a relationship WITH AN ALPHA. The working women you see obviously do not lack opportunities to marry down, marry some beta/omega and start a family. Why don't they take those opportunities? Because even an overstressed life with a demanding career you do not actually like is better for a woman than going ANYWHERE near an omega. ANYTHING is better than that. So the other option women were given (by feminists) was being part of the workforce, and they prefer it in large numbers again because ANYTHING is better than omegas. And perhaps their boss is a hot alpha. So they have something to look at while they work...
I am not saying this to be 'bitchy', but if we are having a conversation about human sexuality you would expect me to know a thing or two about female sexual desires, right?
Backfist 7y ago
Men need to do a better job of not being betas. Its not that hard to become moderately athletic and outgoing which makes you attractive and a good fuck to the majority of women. Most men have a capacity to be Alpha but a lot don't because of lazyness, apathy and miseducation. I do realize that we ass men are failing collectively to pass on the traits to other men that will help them be successful with women and the manosphere is trying to fix it. That being said it could be agued that women driving down wages in the workforce is creating the beta/omegas they despise to much. We are all guilty of creating this world but Im hoping people are starting to figure it out now with the help of the internet.
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randarrow 7y ago
Cutting someone's balls off, inverting their penis, giving them a boob job, and injecting massive amounts of hormones does not make someone a woman.
Yes, personality can be shifted with hormones. However, decades of body and mental changes can not be undone with a few injections. You can't unbreak a leg, you can only pile scar tissue on top of a break making it firm again. The break never really goes away, is always visible on xray. Same with physical and mental traits of people. You can't remove, you can just add.
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randarrow 7y ago
Right, but what you are going through the cause is not social.
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randarrow 7y ago
Honestly, I believe people are byproducts of their social groups, parenting, genetics, and random chance, each at about 25%. Debates trying to classify a cause for anything as or as not one or the other to me are just silly. Gender is not just social, and is especially not primarily social, nor is anything else.
I'm also against the idea of platonic ideals and absolute truth. The idea that something really is one thing or another is really silly. A wall is made up of broken rocks, just as the greatest novel is a dictionary out of order. Changing them just ends up with something new. We're all just shit and stardust mixed up in overgrown sacks of vaginal discharge.
Good luck!
SILENTSAM69 7y ago
It turns out they are talking about other things when saying race is a social construct.
They are more talking about the words we use and ways of describing race. They are not talking about the biological differences.
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/01/050121100142.htm This is a study from the University of California - Irvine. It's a study from 2005 and it seems what you stated in your bullet point about gray and white matter is different than observed.
Here is another article with sources in it about portions of the brain. http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/men-women-different-brains3.htm#hoag
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PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
Lol, you're here to run your mouth. Rule 0.
Next time, don't lead with 'I'm an X' we don't care who someone is, only what they say. your uterus doesn't make you correct.
PaperStreetVilla 7y ago
Great, this is a great rebuttal to femenist trans theory...
how do you tie this into rule 0?
rattamahatta 7y ago
One can either believe that transgender people were born "in the wrong body", or that gender is solely a social construct. Can't have both, afaik.
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and
Filova, B., Ostatnikova, D., Celec, P., and Hodosy, J. (2013). The effect of testosterone on the formation of brain structures. Cells Tissues Organs, 197(3):169–177.
You might also like:
Howard, J. M. (2002). ”mitochondrial eve”, ”y chromosome adam”, testosterone, and human evolution. Riv Biol, 95(2):319–25.
and while you focus on testosterone here, don't forget the role of Müllerian Inhibiting Substance, which is crucial in stripping away female-type behaviours and destroys female reproductive organs in males.
Auphor_Phaksache 7y ago
This morning I was laying down at my sisters house and she said "hey my tire is flat." Translation: can you fix my tire. I don't know why women want to be men or even act like men. Men work and suffer and don't complain at all. Women just want the results that men get without actually putting in the effort. They want the fixed tire but they don't want the sweaty shirt and dirty hands.
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Men always make the mistake of thinking they can solve a women's problem. Makes them feel omnipotent. If her tire is flat she doesn't want you to change it. She wants you to sympathize. She wants you to say 'sis, I too know what it's like to have a flat tire.'
You need to connect with her, on the consequences of flat tireness
JackGetsIt 7y ago
LOL. I'm doing this the next time a girl asks me to change her tire.
yyyyyiiiieee 7y ago
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/11/brains-men-and-women-aren-t-really-different-study-finds
Tl;dr most neurological "male" and "female" traits overlap in individuals
SmokeyMcBlunt 7y ago
Gender definitely is not a social construct. Proof is David Reimer, dude got his penis cut off due to a circumcision gone wrong, and some Shrink suggested he should be raised as a girl .... well that didn't worked out as he ended up killing himself.
lord-denning 7y ago
Not to mention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_dimorphic_nucleus
Jedi5241000 7y ago
Why is this even a debate? It's pretty obvious what gender you are based on whether or not you have a penis
yyyyyiiiieee 7y ago
Then what about hermaphroditic people?
Jaymilineal 7y ago
One of the tenets of great business is to confront the brutal facts. if i did not say that the second half of that is to have faith then i would be regretful. Point is, greatness comes with accepting the facts and to OP's point gender is not a social construction.
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Bro science, to the max. No sources. Nada. Whether or not gender is a social construct or not, Jesus Christ, this is just bad 'science', and I can't believe posts like this get fancy atomic flair and the support of the community. It's genuinely ridiculous.
How do you reconcile this recent study with your 'research'?
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Still, here are a few to be getting on with
Nyborg, H. (2005). Sex-related differences in general intelligence g, brain size, and social status. Personality and Individual Differences, 39(3):497–509.
Hines, M., Constantinescu, M., and Spencer, D. (2015). Early androgen exposure and human gender development. Biology of Sex Differences, 6:3.
Luders, E., Toga, A. W., and Thompson, P. M. (2014). Why size matters: Differences in brain volume account for apparent sex differences in callosal anatomy. NeuroImage, 84:10.1016/j.neuroimage.2013.09.040.
Cahill, L. (2014). Equal ≠ the same: Sex differences in the human brain. Cerebrum: the Dana Forum on Brain Science, 2014:5.
lord-denning 7y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_dimorphic_nucleus
[deleted] 7y ago
That doesn't support anything OP says. That asserts something pretty uncontroversial that the SDN influences sexual preference and certain sex behaviors for some mammals. It says nothing about other higher order capabilities like leadership, mathematics, interest in hobbies, etc., which are way beyond the scope of what is presented in this wiki, and which OP says are hard-wired behaviors like sexual preference.
hores 7y ago
Tel Aviv, the most... flaming city in Israel.
I could also just reply "testosterone" and it'd make your whole rebuttal invalid
so, "testosterone"
[deleted] 7y ago
You got me. Now I know why all the IFBB pros have also earned their Ph.D in mathematics and physics. Testosterone.
hores 7y ago
pretending that the testosterone hormone has nothing to do with shaping human biology is world class mental gymnastics worthy of a phd on its own. I salute you!
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Pretending that it has everything to do with shaping human biology and psychology is world class mental gymnastics worthy of the Manosphere Medal of Honor! I salute you as well!
Chippy_T 7y ago
And that is exactly why transgender people exist as well. Transgender women are biologically male and often have less testosterone which makes their brains work more like biologically female individuals, and the same goes for transgender men. There are a lot of different circumstances during a child's development both in the womb and after birth that cause this. The idea that gender is a social construct is patently false, and it shouldn't surprise you that some of the most transphobic people are feminists that believe transwomen are invading women's spaces and trying to escape male privilege and hate transmen for trying to cheat the patriarchy by sympathizing with and becoming men.
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Its sad this even has to be mentioned BUT in this day and age the brainwashing our young children/next generation get will cause them to believe shit like this. They are being trained to ignore what they can see with their own two eyes and critique in their mind. Such a shame.
I will say this though that the feminists are smart with the "gender is a social construct" part because this ties in to pushing the other agendas such as the gay agenda and transgenders. What better way to lube up the process than to deny sexual gender and say its ok not to procreate but do degenerate shit instead.
Its genius though I gotta say. What better way to control a population than to prevent more people. Add federal laws and you can make a nation destroy itself ala Sweden. Whoever is at the top in control of the Psy Ops the West has is one hell of a smart fucker.
ShaneTino 7y ago
TL;DR
Men are born with a male body and a penis. Women are born with female body and a vagina.
Gman777 7y ago
Sad that it actually has to be explained. Seriously, a 2yr. old gets it.
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I think gender politics are a complete waste of time... whether someone identifies as a woman or a man, it really doesn't fucking matter. If a dude wants to wear a dress, I don't give a shit. Btw, the argument from the cucks is that gender=/= sex....
RealMcGonzo 7y ago
Men and women are different. JFC, we live in a serious world of illusion if this is even debatable. Could you imagine all your great grand-parents looking down upon us, watching us debate whether men are different from woman?
For all the blue pill pansies that disagree, men go get pregnant. Birth a kid or two. Women, go put your dick in crazy and impregnate a man. Then we can talk.
Oh, and no more women's tee. And no more equal funding for women's college teams - after all we are all the same so they can compete on the same level as the men, right?
LMAO.
EDIT: So I am clearly missing something. Maybe I played too much Doctor when I was little, but I knew from virtually day 1 that men and women are different. To me, this is as if there was a huge discussion about whether the Earth was flat or round - except if we had all been to space and seen the roundness. Imagine we all go to space, stare at the spinning globe that is Earth, come back home and a raging debate commences about whether the Earth is flat.
WTF?
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
There are obviously deep gender differences. Testosterone is just part of this. Bodies and brains develop differently due to chromosomal differences. It's not JUST caused by testosterone (you need proof? something must be making the testosterone).
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Sure, but most of it is caused by testosterone, as seen by the way taking exogenous estrogen effects trans women.
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
I don't take the stated experience of trans people seriously.
People lie
People want to believe. Especially after they've had gender reassignment surgery.
DiarrheaHelmet 7y ago
Occasional lurker here, first post. First, a thank you. I have learned an incredible amount, really. People can argue against redpill in totality but own life has anecdotally witnessed so much of the things I've learned here.
However, although a lot of things I've read on this forum have had astounding truths that have resonated with my experiences, and I've avoided and received so much because of it, I must say the "frame" a lot of people hold on here have become almost religious. I think of it as redpill evangelicalism.
We love to find certain studies that really prove what we want to hear. There is a bias for sure. I'm always skeptical of data myself. Who did this research? Were the results replicated in another study? Even if we find something quantifiable, is the human experience and human mind not incredibly complex and unpredictable!
Consider the whole self improvement/self confidence aspect redpill preaches (which is great!). Surely if humans are capable of such drastic self improvement, then the brain inevitably very malleable and plastic, no? Is it not a contradiction to believe that the female brain can not be industrious, creative, action-oriented?
Lets say then, hypothetically, that all of what the op posted is true. Lets say nature does completely beat nurture in this case and women aren't destined to doers. Why even waste time talking about it? Why preach this to the choir. Where in this information are we working on ourselves? I think rather, we are sharpening the knives of the choir. We are preparing for a classic intellectual debate with the other side. We are defending our egos. If we really are alpha, if we really have our own shit going on, why even engage with the other side? They don't want to hear you out anyways. They have their own evangelical choir, and maybe that's what we are becoming?
Council-Member-13 7y ago
The above does not support that 'gender' isn't a social construct. It only supports that 'sex' isn't. You probably want to take that distinction into consideration if you aim to disprove those who claim that gender is a social construct. Otherwise it's just preaching to the choir.
MigTau 7y ago
gender (n.)
ifancy 7y ago
I think the correct term is sex, male and female. Where as gender is intended to be "fluid".
francinerose 7y ago
Women want to have the cake and eat it to with patriarchy
They want to work but have men pay their way.
They want to get pregnant and have maternity leave which enforced the patriarchy that women should stay home with their child (which I believe in the patriarchy/redpill)
They don't want dads to be stay at home dads..
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Of course it's not about love. It's about sex. Women are sexually repulsed by betas. You just want to have orgasms and think forcing women into what is basically socially approved rape by omega husbands is okay.
Women stopped cooking dinners at a certain point, became suffragettes and began to detonate bombs. It's just the way it works.
If you think young women go for alphas because of 'romance' you need to check in into the Blue Pill community.
Nowadays women make up half the work force, boys. And do indeed reproduce. With alphas. I COMPLETELY agree with you if you don't want to be a beta provider, but yeah don't expect women to go back cooking your dinner anytime soon.
FCBLegacy 7y ago
What the fuck did I just read?
FlicketyFlack 7y ago
Women also produce testosterone.
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yyyyyiiiieee 7y ago
The argument is that gender and sex are diffrent, because of how the term is used