tl:dr; its not just enough to get a high value. Good looks, gym, health/fitness, good career. These are all pluses. But unless you have the game to confidently drop a girl on the spot; with the blink of an eye, and show no remorse, then your girl will ride the CC. I will bet Jeff's tears on that
This scenario popped into memory many months ago before I was reading TRP
So I was talking to a girl in my class. She has been on and off with her bf. Lets call him Jeff
As we were in a study group, we finish up and start packing. The two girls in the group approach each other and start asking each other updates on their personal lives. "Oh ya, did I tell you? I hooked up with Chad", says Sarah. Chad is who we will call the friend in this situation. Obviously a cover for his real name, plus he is a Chad. Same with Sarah
Chad was a tall black dude. Not jacked, but definitely in shape. Most likely with that beebeesea. And Sarah is, to be completely honest, an objectively stunning slampiece with the IQ of a walnut. All ass and breast. No brain. Dresses like a slut. Coincidentally, I went to HS with Chad. "Chad? Chad Thundercock?" "Ya"-Sarah. "No way. I know him. We have mutual friends"
Anyways, we go on discussing. "Aren't you dating Jeff? For like 5 years now?" "Ya but his life is so boring. All he does is just go to class and come back. He volunteers at a hospital too" "And isn't Chad in school? I haven't seen him since HS". "He goes to tons of raves. Loves to party and have fun. Jeff just doesn't want that. He is too busy for that" "But isn't Jeff what you want? A stable guy? He hits the gym and is good looking, he is going to be a doctor soon" The other girl joined and we had a long convo about what girls really wanted in a man "I wanna settle with Jeff long term. But for now I want a bad boy you know?"
I was absolutely perplexed about the whole discussion. Didn't girls want a nice guy? A man who treats her well? A man who is by her side?
Fuck no. The explanation is simple. She wants to get pumped and dumped. Repeating for emphasis, Sarah WANTS to get pumped and dumped. She wants a fat hard cock between her legs. She hopped on that BBC because she knew that Jeff would take her back
Fast forward a few months and I bump into Chad at the bar. A lot of my HS is there and we breifly chat. It came up that Jeff knew Chad and they were actual in the same hangout circle. Also; Chad ended up plating Sarah hardcore. Just pumping endlessly. Bare back. And the second she asked for a relationship? Just handled the conversation like a pro. Jeff of course took her back. I talked to Sarah later and she showed no signs of remorse. Or shame. Casually just explained she talked to Jeff about Chad. Jeff as you can imagine was very distraught. Jeff is a high quality male. good job/academics, no drug use, pretty good looks, and always by her side. But he is not a high SMV male. He was not prepared to drop the bitch like a bad habit. Because he made himself available, she knew she could ride the CC and get away with it. Notice how when we discussed Jeff, she mentioned how she wanted to be with him later in life? You see what she did there? She ASSUMED that Jeff would take her back. That assumption is what propelled her to bare back Chad. And that assumption was correct
EDIT: Keep in mind, Sarah herself overtly explained the TRP basics. But if she logged on the TRP she would be upset and insulted. The irony is real
EDIT2: I just realized I missed a bonus detail. Chad was having mostly unprotected sex with Sarah. Just pull out method. Also did tons of anal. Chad told me this. Sarah told me (before fucking Chad) that she was annoyed that Jeff would even suggest to raw dog and anal. She found it insulting he asked and always wanted to be extra safe. I guess the idea of having Chad's kid wasn't a horrible reality to her?
JMCastillo86 8y ago
fuck.. the more i read TRP... the less i trust women in general... and the more i get laid.
kick6 8y ago
If she did a lot of anal, I doubt Chad had a BBC.
hawk4433 8y ago
Why was this upvoted? You sound so gay bro talking about another man and his dick. You really asked these questions to random chicks, gossiping? Everything about your post screams low quality and blue.
ZahidTheNinja 8y ago
Why is it that girls in so many of these stories are averse to the idea of anal with their current not-so-alpha/beta provider boyfriends but ready and willing with the "Chad" they fuck on the side?
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Because their provider boyfriend doesn't give them the tingles for anal.
SkorchZang 8y ago
Because she knows that once she lets the beta have it once, he's never going to relinquish the privilege & will keep asking for it. So much eyeroll, omg.
The thing with Chad is, he... he never really asked her opinion about it, it just happened. So it's all good.
[deleted] 8y ago
They are trying to lock down Chad..
TheConArtistAubrey 8y ago
They want to do degenerate stuff with a fellow degenerate.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Anal remains painful to any but the most experienced sluts (and gays) so for a girl to offer you anal- she's taking out the big guns in order to get you to commit.
Why go through all that pain with a BetaBux you aren't even sexually attracted to? Atleast Chad is the prize, ready to be won over.
ScarletNumbers 8y ago
Because if they do it with Beta, they will have to do it all the time.
Plus they know that Chad has higher standards so they will do more to please him.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Here's someone that gets it.
imbeciI 8y ago
They try anal with someone they really like.
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I feel like I saw a study recently about how the hornier a woman is, the lower her inhibitions get. So if you make her incredibly aroused she'll do damn near anything you want.
You can see this yourself if you want by noting the difference in blowjob quality from a woman who has been teased to the brink of orgasm vs one who has just gotten off. The super horny one will be a sword swallower compared to the one who already got her orgasm release.
[deleted] 8y ago
I played myself when I ate a girl out to see if if that would get through her LMR. After she came she was definitely not having sex. I should have just taken her to the brink and kept her there.
And before the blue pill runs amok with this she was perfectly happy jacking me, kissing, and getting nekkid. She said we weren't having sex. I tried to change her mind. She didn't so I didn't force the issue.
To be honest I got the feeling that she wanted to be overpowered. It went down very much like the video.
topdog82 8y ago
because anal (IMO) is basically the complete domination of the female. Thats why females like it
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But they only like it from upper tier alphas, because they are in competition with the other women he's likely fucking.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Bullshit, I've met sluts who wanted anything done to them. Up to jamming their heads up the toilet bowl. But anal went to far. Women know that men like doing that shit- it's their trump card if they want your attention.
This is also why uglier girls are more slutty (trying to entice the man). Anal can be enjoyed by women (ironically more so by men, but that's gay) but it takes allot of experience and most girls don't reach this in their early twenties.
Some women do relate being dominated to anal, this is due to their past experiences. Just like another girl prefers her hair pulled, mouth jammed etc. In reality women could enjoy all these things, it just depends what 'mental links' she makes up in her head.
OzzyDaGrouch 8y ago
This is so important to keep in mind.
If you fuck a woman hard enough and do it right, she will be into whatever you are into (seriously, if you're in this situation, try doing more and more weird shit and as long as you stick to your guns I guarantee she'll be asking you about it next time). And she will adopt most if not all of these kinks as her own. You will help her grow sexually. Its beautiful when you see it in action tbh.
I'm other words, you can reprogram her 'mental links' to be whatever you want because we choose what we like. So make her choose what you like...
[deleted] 8y ago
Getting a woman and keeping them are two different things.
If you act like a bitch you will be treated like one.
If you don't take shit - you won't be given any.
Maybe that's an oversimplification, but its a pretty accurate.
Having good looks and material status will attract many women - they will fuck you generally for their own ego's sake just to be up on something they see worthy of their personal list.
However, keeping a woman takes a different skill set. The attraction brings them. Your individual strength of character keeps them. Keeping a woman takes a man's confidence, emotional strength, self respect, intelligence and developed will. You have to give a shit enough about yourself to not allow yourself to be hurt and manipulated. You also have to be smart enough to recognize when someone is worthy of your love - so you know when its appropriate to give it.
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You are choosing a dvd for tonight
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Of course this doesn't mean you can be a fatass and she'll stick around.
How you take care of yourself physically is a reflection of how much you give a shit about yourself. That's part of it.
Expounding on that its these qualities that enable one to avoid oneitis and codependency. What is in your heart and mind that enables you to navigate through life successfully are also the things that attract women in the frame of LTRs. You need to be able to generate tingles with your physicality to keep the flames hot, but in longer relationships you also need to be able to capture their admiration to keep the bedroom active and the relationship healthy. It takes both.
One_friendship_plz 8y ago
I can contest my own sister has done this, and btw "Chad" was just some jobless loser who was just "big" but not jacked, and didn't have much of an education, he was just your average big black guy.
She fucking threw away millions of dollars for this fucker and cucked the rich guy who paid for her house. Although she did get dropped it's depressing that she didn't have the brains to weigh the pro's and cons.
someboringdude 8y ago
Let it go, let it go, if the hoe wanna hoe,nigga let it go.
Rommel0502 8y ago
To be clear - Sarah DOES NOT want to get pumped and dumped. Thats just anger phase talking. What Sarah wants is for Chad to have Jeffs money and have Chad commit to her. (Even without the money, she still asked Chad for a relationship.)
This is why woman have a dualistic mating strategy. They want Chads genes and Jeffs money in one guy, and for that guy to commit to her. Since that is so rare, they have to split up their demands among two or more guys.
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Anyone who will fuck black guys isn't even close to worthy of dating. If you get cucked for a nigger and don't end it immediately you don't deserve to live.
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Camberlain 8y ago
I'm skeptical. Sounds a bit too perfect for this sub.
Seems like some weird fetish erotica to me.
Johndoesmith67 8y ago
This. Y'all need to go outside once in a while.
offthebeatmeoff 8y ago
This is going to come off as racist, so hear me out and listen to my rationale before you go full retard on me. For context I am not black or white. I will not say my specific ethnicity. I have dated/fucked every race. This is not to brag it is to say that my observations are based on my observations and that of my degenerate friends.
More likely than not if a white girl has sex with a black guy than she is pretty much not worthy of anything more than being a fuck buddy ore ONS. There are exceptions and it's not that she is unworthy because she has been "dirtied" by a black dick or anything like that. It's just that typically she has had sex with that guy because of a fetish, to piss off her parents, or to cross it off the bucket list, or she is overweight. That list probably covers about 95% of the cases. For that reason it's pretty much a huge red flag to me if a white girl ever does anything with a black guy. It is extremely rare from my experience that a white girl meets a black guy and she gets to know him and thinks "wow I don't really go for black men, but he's so cool and down to Earth, that I could see myself having a future with him". It does happen, but more often than not it doesn't.
That's my rationale that if a white or even asian/indian girl goes for a black guy there pretty much damaged goods not worthy of a LTR.
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Camberlain 8y ago
100% agree. You never see White women like Kate Middleton going out with Africans. It's always ones that look and act like guests on the Maury show.
offthebeatmeoff 8y ago
Go out to Boston or other liberal highly educated areas and you'll see black guys who look like business professionals with tall attractive white women. That's the 1 out of 100 though.
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While there are A LOT of uneducated, sloppy black men, people tend to forget that girls are all about feelz at the end if the day. If you're a smart, charismatic guy who knows his way with words, you'll get just about any kind of girl regardless of race
2comment 8y ago
Abundance mentality extends to people in general. Being willing and able to cut relations shows you're a man with options and strengthens your position with anyone you're dealing with.
rossiFan 8y ago
A buddy of mine is that Chad. One of the girls he fucks is a cute blond thing from Arkansas who comes into town to "shop with friends". Her husband is an executive from Walmart. If you look at her FB page, you'd think they were a normal family who went to the Caribbean and on ski trips all the time. You'd never know that she snorts coke off his 10in penis and pays for everything when in town.
playdontpay 8y ago
Reminds me of that guy who owned bodybuilding dot com and was worth 100's millions . Got cheated on by his fiancé a hb8.5 imo despite private jet lifestyle and 180 days holidays a year. She cheated with Dan bilzerian who pumped and dumped her and posted pictures on Instagram. Those hoes ain't loyal.
playdontpay 8y ago
Ashley soule was the hoes name.
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Tarnsman4Life 8y ago
In fairness Dan was at least wealthier than him if not better looking. It was a 100% branch swing attempt (and failure).
wastagaswe 8y ago
Being rich will get you girls easy, but it's not gonna make you more physically attractive. You should not be getting attached to women, especially if you are rich. Pump and dump
CreamiestCream 8y ago
Poor sentence structure and a clear lack of life experience suggests a beta male.
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Genetically_Awesome 8y ago
It's the most fake shit I have read in awhile. Complete RP boner with no substance. Did anyone learn anything new from this story?
andres7832 8y ago
Damn, hit all the RP's on that one...
Girl is a slut
Girl is dumb
Black guy
Big cock
Big muscles
No protection (that she uses with BF)
Anal (that she doesnt give to BF)
GF secretly wants the AF genes
GF obviously doesnt want the BB genes, just the future $$
BF is beta
BF is studious, soon to be doctor
BF doesnt party
BF gets cuckolded, takes GF back
BF is a little bitch BB, Chad is a player AF.
I would say OP either made up or heavily embellished his story cough cuckold fetish cough
[deleted] 8y ago
This needs to be the top comment
Orig_analUse_rname 8y ago
Lol as a black man I really don't see TRP's obsession. They even say they won't LTR a girl who fucked a black guy.
[deleted] 8y ago
I don't get it either. Some people may just be insecure.. they'll get over it eventually.
offthebeatmeoff 8y ago
I made a comment below that I think addresses it pretty well. Some guys are overly insecure, but there's a little more to it a majority of the time
odiecoyote 8y ago
I read this in the voice of Wallace Shawn from the Princess Bride. something about the sharp cadence of 'brainless slut!' just made it ring in my brainstuffs
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topdog82 8y ago
He was getting paid pretty well at his temporary job. But regardless, solid point
odiecoyote 8y ago
women don't care about what you can be, they care about what you are now... you literally see this everywhere you look. think about Pokémon. this is why all the girl characters on Pokémon ended up flouncing right out on Ash in the middle of his travels. never even gave Brock a second look, and even though he was kind of a pussy, he wasn't afraid of rejection. Ash, he wanted to be the greatest Pokémon master in the world. Brock knew what he could be, too: the greatest Pokémon breeder!
and what did misty want to be? she didn't give a shit, long as ash was catching a new cute Pokémon for her to play with and momentarily distract her from her how long did she stick around, anyways? this is why I'm glad I grew up with indigo league, as will my progeny.
I know how to get these pokemon go bitches horny
[deleted] 8y ago
There was never anything Jeff could've done.. Sarah is a slut.. Don't ltr sluts.
TechnoRaptor 8y ago
We need to stop LTRing sluts until we figure out what's going on! Make Jeff great again
Rommel0502 8y ago
So true. It has nothing to do if Jeff is rich or poor. Same result. Only difference is if he is rich enough, Jeff can fly his jet to South Beach tonight and down his sorrows by being double teamed by his private pool by two Latin hotties.
Few things cannot be solved by money if you have the correct mindset to go along with it.
TheReformist94 8y ago
Being wealthy doesn't turn women on viscerallyy.its provisioning,so is maxing your BB component of your overall value as a male. Also women get tired of fucking the same man and need variety just like us,so no amount of wealth/dread will keep em round when all they want is NEW cock and there's little to know consequences. Staying in as monogamous LTR with a wealthy man,alpha or not is not conducive to their sexual stratrgy. Monogamy is a compromise women make for men if they can feed and clothe themselves
[deleted] 8y ago
He could have not...ltr'd a slut. Lol. So there WAS something.
HaveSomeChicken 8y ago
Yeah I feel like Jeff is does in some ways exhibit traits of a high SMV male, but she was overwhelming.
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[deleted] 8y ago
Not even Chad is safe anymore
darkrood 8y ago
There are Chad's girl who hooks on the side bareback.
MeditateErrDay 8y ago
Exactly. This bitch didn't deserve to be with Jeff. He'll find a chick that actually is making the world a better place just like he is.
[deleted] 8y ago
No
Jeff didn't deserve to own the bitch. For he didn't know female dark side or accounted for it. If he was vigilant and self-respectful he could have spotted the hints and left her. He probably skipped over the red flags.
Think as it as the reversal of chad. Chad doesn't deserve girls (by societal standards) but he got plenty. Then this flips the narrative: Girls don't deserve relationship with chad, since they all went with someone that didn't deserve them this make them not self-respectful. Same with Beta Jeff. The girl didn't deserve him at start, but he accepted her anyway and forgave her everything. This flips the narrative: now the girl knows he hasn't self-respect and the onus of performance is totally on him, her actions won't matter to her in this regard.
That said, i agree with you outside the sociosexual department. But inside the relationship, this was flipped by Jeff lack of awareness and the fact that he probably has beta feeling for her that will prevent him from understanding the truth (she never deserved him... also by refusing of accounting this, he lost his merit).
Sociosexual value is 99% perception and 1% facts for sluts and betas. Alphas know this and can easily profit from both categories.
Uckcan 8y ago
In all honesty this is on Jeff
polakfury 8y ago
What would you have recommend Jeff do different in this situation?
Uckcan 8y ago
What's in it for him to take her back? Why? Just a lack of confidence and spine
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Uckcan 8y ago
And definitely don't take them back once you what they're all about
ransay3277 8y ago
You are so right. As Dr. Dre says... "You can't turn a hoe into a housewife."
[deleted] 8y ago
Thought they was snoop..
Another wise man lol
ransay3277 8y ago
You might be right. Got me on that one.
ChanmanVXIIX 8y ago
Cant turn a ho into a housewife
Hos don't act right
There's hos on a mission, an hoes on a crack-pipe
Hey ho how ya doing, where ya been?
Probably doing ho stuff cause there you ho again
Its a ho wide world, that we living in
Feline, feminine, fantastical, women
Ludacris
ransay3277 8y ago
I stand corrected. But a truth will stand by itself.
ChanmanVXIIX 8y ago
I like the third verse, it works so well on two levels
you've seen what crack pipes look like right?
103342 8y ago
Thank you. This is something that just doesn't get into some guys' heads lol.
If this had happened the other way around the post would go like: "Girl has Chad boyfriend and cheats with other guy for his money: Hypergamy 101 and Gold Diggers".
And people totally miss the bottom line: You can't control a woman with dread game and abundance mentality in the long run.
Dread game is a poor strategy for LTR, you will eventually feel like a passive agressive child if you keep on doing it.
Abundance mentality is something that should be done for YOURSELF. If you expect a girl to see how much you live in abundance and crawl back to you, you will end up frustrated.
These ultimately shouldn't be manipulation techniques, but things you use to make YOU happy.
This is something that bothers me about TRP and specially askTRP. The guy asks: "How is the alpha way of showing my LTR that I don't care about her?". And the guy completely misses the point that he is STILL trying to change who he is to impress "his girl". Who is probably a slut... And HE is the one trying to attach himself to her by pretending to be unnatached to her, which is a beyond retarded and frustrating thing to do.
A message for guys of TRP: Most girls these days are sluts. 80% of the average girls of these days would put a slut from 15 years ago to shame. Just accept it, and if you plan on getting on a LTR, remember: The chances of her being a slut are quite big, your risk.
polakfury 8y ago
How would you navigate in a ltr situation yourself?
103342 8y ago
My shit-test threshold is very small. If the girl tries to make me jealous too early, or do something that I consider a deal breaker, I just keep things casual and about sex up until the point she is the one to give up.
This basically sums up my last relationships.
polakfury 8y ago
That seems like the smart venue now a days. Would you say its a good technique overall?
103342 8y ago
Honestly, if you keep doing it you probably won't stay long in any LTR.
I'm happy this way because I don't want to waste my time with a relationship where I'm not in control.
polakfury 8y ago
True. What are some methods you use to keep in control?
103342 8y ago
I don't use any method. My way of thinking is: If she isn't giving me power in the relationship, she doesn't want me to have the power.
And I won't fight to have power in a relationship, because, quite honestly, I don't need it.
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Soarinc 8y ago
Is there a cleaner way to message this? I was trying to explain to a non-RP friend the general concept that sluttiness isn't "relative" in a biological sense and that women suffer the inability to pair-bond effectively once they've spent 6 months on the cock carousel.
The conversation was hard as hell for me to explain because it involves bringing in so many extra concepts just to make my point.
In essence, I'm trying to convey that the "downsides" to sluttiness occur within the girl's brain and it screws up their release of oxytocin when they pair-bond with a new guy and after too many guys take a piece of her, that she will always be super-eager to branch swing as soon as a long-term relationship shows any signs of rough roads ahead.
(totally irrelevant--but for the context of how I arrived at the point in conversation -- this guy's successful beta brother is fixing to marry a slut and he makes over $100,000 a year and I can guarantee you she's slept with about 50 guys since she always gets drunk and has slept around with many guys I know).
103342 8y ago
Honestly dude, preaching RP stuff is something that I just don't do and don't get.
If the guy doesn't understand why marrying a slut is a retarded thing to do, not my problem. I'll take a hint of it, like you seem to have done, but if the guy isn't getting it I just let the shit hit the fan. Not my problem.
kick6 8y ago
Dread game fully works in a LTR. if it's dread game, and not the game of dread. Which is kinda what you're hinting at: if it's a bullshit tactic you're implying to keep her in line, eventually she'll see it as the empty threat it is, and step out. If you're going to use dread game effectively, it's not a fucking game. It has to be really goddamn obvious that you will and can pull eject at any moment.
FrameWalker 8y ago
Very well said. To add to the discussion and spell it out loud if your LTR is flirting hard in front of you or is acting fishy maybe gjve her one warning. If you find yourself irritated or anxious about her behavior dump her ass! Its not about punishing her. it might be about growing balls depending on your journey. Its the surest amd Fastest way to happiness.
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Best post on Red Pill that I've read this summer.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Women are herd animals that follow simple trends that signal increased status. You will find them wearing certain brands, pursue certain hobbies, engage in specific social media crap.
Same goes with their selection of guys. OP's Chad was black (porn industry hyped BBC) went to raves (Raves and festivals are the new disco) etc. I'm pretty sure Chad checked some more markers off her list.
In the absence of a true IDGAF, One of a Kind, Alpha- women will gladly submit to simple attractive tropes. To but it bluntly, women will fuck anything but a committed beta.
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[deleted] 8y ago
Over 200 points upvoted so var, and he makes a statement like this? What is up with the voters?
Dread game is a core component of running game, especially in an LTR. I'm thinking most of you voters have never been in an LTR, or you need to read the sidebar.
I'll emphasize it again, dread game is necessary in an LTR.
103342 8y ago
Let me tell you something about women, that apparently A LOT of guys in TRP forgot.
Women live in a world of plausible deniability. Dread game works to keep her attracted to you, but it won't keep her faithful. And dread also gives her the perfect excuse to do what she wants.
See the problem of using only dread on LTR?
This is an illusion that you guys here in TRP want to believe. Like there is a "solution" for women's behavior that will still give you what you thought you could have in "the blue pill".
Well... You can't.
[deleted] 8y ago
Who said anything about using only dread? Your comment was that "dread game was a poor strategy", and mine was that it was a core component, as in part of several strategies.
I will however qualify my comment slightly, in that dread game is crucial in an LTR where you are living with a woman.
And for those newer at this, the reason is that when you live with a woman, she will see you when you have periods of weakness, and lose attraction. ie sick, hurt etc and you have to use dread to help offset that.
And in the end, due to the lack of social shaming and laws favoring women these days, no strategy can prevent a woman from cheating on you, but red pill is the best we've got.
[deleted] 8y ago
BULLSHIT
Dread game is the only way you keep an LTR long term.
At it's core dread game isn't manipulation - if it is then you are doing it wrong. Dread game is the honest will to terminate a relationship that isn't working for you.
Love is always a gamble. Like any other type of gamble - you have to know when it is appropriate to cut your losses. If you don't know when to fold a bad hand or walk away from the table - then you will get fleeced.
Companionship, love, generosity, intimacy... That's the easy part of love. When you care about someone deeply it is easy to give to them. Its makes one feel good to share with loved ones.
The difficult part of love is recognizing it's potential futility.
Let me clarify by saying dread can be something as simple as saying no to something. Its not just the somewhat formalized process of deploying an exit strategy - that's late stage dread. Dread on the most basic level is the subtle (sometimes overt - but mostly subtle) method of demonstrating that there are lines not meant to be crossed - and crossing them means consequences.
In the story related by OP Sarah knew that Jeff would take her back even after getting fucked in the ass multiple times by Chad. How did Sarah come to this conclusion? There were likely 15+ events/issues between Sarah and Jeff that preceded her getting thrown around like plastic fuck doll by Chad that let her know what she could and could not get away with. Once she discovered that Jeff was a totally pussy incapable of standing up for himself, she knew she had him by the short hairs. She could do whatever the fuck she wanted and still have Jeff at her mercy. She didn't respect him.
Chad, OTOH could tell Sarah to fuck off at the drop of a hat. This led Chad to be able to do whatever the fuck he wanted and still have Sarah as a plate at his whim.
I propose this about the story of Jeff, Sarah and Chad... If Jeff from early onset had been able to destroy Sarah's shit tests and levy immediate consequences to negative behaviors - one of two things would have happened: Sarah would have fell in line being attracted to Jeff after seeing him display self respect and stoic male confidence - OR - Jeff would have dumped her ass when she failed to live up to what a honest, healthy relationship requires. Either way Jeff would have never have live with getting Chad's raw dog busted out sloppy seconds. Why? Because Jeff would never for a moment put up with that shit - even the idea of it seems laughable. If Jeff is as good looking and successful as is described then 10 other chicks would be waiting in line to suck Jeff's cock if Sarah slipped up even a little bit. That alone should give Jeff all the leverage he needs. Women are replaceable.
In this world attractive men with abundant resources are a rare commodity - much more rare than available pussy. Available pussy is everywhere. If you are a fit, attractive man with abundant material resources you should have your own way. The problem is the mind gets in the way. Oneitis is a killer. It turns a man who should by all rights be in safe territory into a man who licks pussy that's been torn up by raw dog BBC.
[deleted] 8y ago
There's never "one rule" that works. Betas ONLY know how to follow rules. Gauge the situation, do the right thing for yourself. And many times the right thing is the dread game.
Jax77789 8y ago
There is one little nuance that is lacking imo : a girl, being the pragmatic sex, will fall in line to keep the material comfort her BB gives her, even if the BB wakes up too late. She will make excuses and will ghost the AF if need be. The slut sure loves cock but she is not ready to give up the spacious flat her BB gives her for that cock.
I know that for a fact. A plate of mine has been caught cheating with me. Now that the BB is around full time the hoe is in " I am a good girl" mode and has ghosted me while she is salvaging her couple with that poor sap. To a bitch : security > cock. Just my 0.02$.
Lawlesslaw 7y ago
Real shit. Same happened with my plate. Her dude saw our texts and she went full damage control when he took her back. Of course she let me smash again soon after they got back together, in spite all of her crying and begging for his forgiveness.
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Tingles are hard to fake over the long term, so generally in time the situation will reveal itself.
Of course if the man is an idiot and never figures shit out, then he'll end up being that unwitting BB provider dope who's woman is getting fucked by other dudes - and the truth will take much longer to become known.
As far as catching a girl cheating is concerned... Heh its should be a one strike and you're out policy. Any man that forgives a cheating whore will eventually get what he deserves.
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mabden 8y ago
Absolutely.
I have no problems with my ltr (I even lived with her) because I set the frame right up front, we are both free to see whomever we want.
When we were getting married, she broached the subject of what would happen if "anything" ever happened between us. I told her straight out, if "anything" ever happened, all I want is my backpack, sleeping bag, some clothes, and my dog (that is everything I came into the relationship with.) She can have the rest.
The look on her face was priceless, both times.
Dread and the willingness to walk away in a heartbeat goes a long way to a drama free relationship.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, being a good fuck is always a plus ;) END EDIT
103342 8y ago
I don't get it... you are married with her? Why do you guys don't live together? This doesn't make any sense...
mabden 8y ago
??? We lived together for 4 years before getting married ( to have kids) and still live together.
Jax77789 8y ago
Are you sure she is not just a long term plate then ?
As I see it open relationships, in standard relationships, are always a losing agreement to the man, no matter how Alpha you are, it makes your dread pointless because she will always have more options than you ( as per Rollo Tomassi).
mabden 8y ago
So? She has them regardless if we are committed or open. The question for any chick is; are her "options" better than you? If so, good for her see you later. I just laid it out there up front.
Story time. My chick played softball in a bar league. I was one of the coaches. After one game, she comes up to me with a piece of paper with a guys name and a phone number on it.
M: "What's this?"
H: "One of the girls on the other team gave this to me. She said her coach liked me."
M: "Wow! I'm impressed. I never thought of that."
I gave her back the paper, she threw it in the trash can as we headed out of the park.
wastagaswe 8y ago
So you lived with her, and told her she can take everything that you acquired during the relationship. That's just setting up the relationship in her favor, where she has nothing to lose.
You also got married? Why are you talking about dread?
mabden 8y ago
Wrong. In PUA and RP theory, you are the prize right. She loses you. Material things are just that, things. They have little value in making your life happy. They may make your life more comfortable, but do we not live to be outside our comfort zone in order to grow and progress as men?
Edit: full disclosure, before I started hooking up with her, I was basically homeless for 2 years (ages 19 - 21) were I hitch-hiked around the country, picking up jobs and hanging out wherever. Lived in cars, vans, buses, tents, open country. It was the best time of my life and will never regret it. Moral of the story is she knew this and thus knew that I could pick up and leave at any time and be just fine without her. END EDIT
wastagaswe 8y ago
Those material things cost money, which takes time to make and can make you happier unless you don't know how to spend it.
Stepping out of your comfort zone doesn't mean throwing away your assets, the fact that you'd do fine without her doesn't make it dread. She would do fine without you it seems, as you already told her she can have it all if you split
103342 8y ago
There is one thing I said already in this sub, I'll say it again.
You can't keep a woman faithful based solely on sexual attraction. This is an illusion that this sub is backing up.
Women like to keep relationships ambiguous, specially when they are young and attractive, this gives them space to do whatever they want, including fuck other guys...
The basis of dread is showing that you are unattached and can easily replace her, this goes completely against one thing that women NEED in a commited relationship: security.
I know that guys here still cling to the illusion that you can have both, but nature just doesn't work this way.
newName543456 8y ago
The problem is, thanks to spineless betas, women CAN have both security and fucking anyone they want at the same time.
So I'm not surprised guys think they can stack the deck in their favor, seeing that women managed to do just that. But you just can't win if you want LTR. Why would a woman willingly give up on hypergamy for an exclusive relationship with you? Are you absolute top-dog sexually? Doubt it. Someone "hotter" can always come along. It's not even objective he's hotter than you, your "hotness" may just drop since you're with her for so long, and new guy is always exciting just because he's new and unknown. So try not to take it personally.
Dread game delays the inevitable, but cannot fully eliminate the possibility. Because a woman can not only meet someone "hotter" than you, she can meet another guy, who is more beta (excuse me, "secure") than you, this time quite objectively more beta. And then she makes charade to keep fucking Chad, knowing beta will support it - but you might have not. By then she has no more use for you, so she can discard you in any way she sees fit.
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Sexual attraction for women isn't a completely visual/visceral thing. While physicality is a big part of it - it is also based on respect. What's going on in between your ears is part of the deal. A woman can be physically attracted to you, but if after a time comes to find out you're a dipshit - will not respect you and will lose her sexual attraction for you.
I think the mistake men make on this sub is that they think that physical appearance rules women like it does men. It does not. Sexual dimorphism is a thing. While in the short term the effect is similar, in the long term behavior influences sexual attraction for women quite profoundly - much more than men.
That's not to say that you can let yourself go and be a fat mother fucker and still have your GF/wife get wet af every time she sees you - no not saying that. Saying you can be ripped up like an athlete, but if you are dumb ass you'll probably still get worked. Women have the great ability to paint themselves as victims in any situation - if their lizard brains tell them that you are a bad mate the hamster wheel will start spinning and they'll rationalize banging a Chad behind your back so fast your head will spin around.
103342 8y ago
The respect you talk about is a different thing for men and women. I don't even think respect is a good word for what they feel, submission might be a better word.
I respect a guy like Elon Musk, i respect a guy like Bill Gates, a guy that wins a nobel prize, etc.
Are these guys swimming in pussy? Don't think so...
Now think about ex-felons and criminals and drug dealers. They are fucking the finest pussies lol. They are dominant men.
When a girl gets knocked up by a guy like that they will run to the arms of the men they "respect".
People forget about AF/BB.
AF -> Short term, good genes.
BB -> Long Term, Security.
This is it. I know you guys want to believe in a "solution", that you can still have it both ways, but you can't...
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Respect among men and women is different. No disagreement there.
The whole "good genes" argument should logically include a man's guile and awareness. Nothing dries up pussy like emotional weakness.
You have to take on the dominant role as a man, but respect from a woman isn't about forcing submission. Submission comes when the man shows his personal power. The woman sees and admires that power and wants to benefit from its association. Submission is how they get close to an effectual man to gain said benefit.
If you are ineffectual women won't want to submit. Yes being weak willed and failing shit tests is a display of ineffectuality.
You say that ex cons and drug dealers bang all kinds of hot chicks. Let me tell you - I haven't seen many dudes like that keep women around very long. Women get up close and personal to those kinds of dudes and once they get past the fascination of that dark alpha dangerousness - they see the weaknesses that make those men losers in the broader context of society. Their pussies dry up after they see the limit of that existence. I can't tell you how many of these kinds of men I've seen get cheated on, dumped and fucked over. It's practically a guaranteed eventuality.
Look short term is raw tingles from visceral reaction. You want to say it's pure alpha fucks - I can't disagree with that. But tingles in the long term deal comes from the physical, mental and emotional. That also is a a type of alpha fucks - it's just a deeper drill down. More of you is exposed. More of you is weighed and judged. The greater context becomes what drives a woman to continually respect, desire and submit to you.
If you are pure beta bucks in a situation - then tingles are scarce and the relationship is doomed to failure.
103342 8y ago
This is what guys that still believe in the dream of an ideal long term relationship WANT to believe.
Re-read your comment, you are seriously projecting into women. They are not that smart and fair in their decisions, if they were this subreddit wouldn't even exist.
The idea that you can be so alpha that she will somehow become faithful is whishful thinking for those that still cling to the idea of an ideal long term relationship.
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No this is what I've come to believe from personal experience. You can't bully women into submission. That doesn't work. You have to lead - and you lead by example.
There is no ideal relationship. They are always risky deals that have no guarantees. At best you can minimize said risk by making sure you manage your life to the best of your ability - but even then you have to contend with the reality of hypergamy. If there is a bigger, better deal - a woman will always be tempted by it. The prettier they are - generally the more fickle. That's life.
Divorce is setup to give women easy exits to marriage. You better be fucking damn sure she is a decent woman and you have your head on straight before you take on that life path. The easy decision is to avoid it altogether - but that has it's consequences too - mostly felt in the autumn and winter of life. Marriage and family has it's long term benefits. It can either lead you to paradise or straight to hell. It's your life and you choose what risks you are willing to take and what you want out of it.
There are men that make it though. Is it dumb luck? Or are they doing something right, on a daily basis, over the course of their lives? This is the grand question posed on this sub everyday.
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She's never yours
It's only your turn
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HumanSockPuppet 8y ago
Phrasing it in this way is bait for newbs to feel sorry for themselves. You want to start building up their irrational self-confidence ASAP.
For a man with the right attitude, HE is the selector. Bitches are the replaceable ones. They are permitted to remain only if they can offer up something more than a few warm, moist holes.
You are the prize, remember?
Say it this way instead:
You're not hers, it's just her turn. Then at 8pm tonight, it's Becky's.
WalkedWithAZombie 8y ago
Get this in that top 10 quote thread.
chris_sydney 8y ago
How can you remember their names?
EatmyShorts59 8y ago
MY MAN !!!!!!
It's just her turn....
notyouravrgd 8y ago
So just pump and dump got it..
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Short term (6 months) at most
TryDoingSomethingNew 8y ago
As much as I hate the concept of it, I accept it and never forget this.
The truths we deal with here are quite often very harsh and depressing, but so be it. We deal with it and move forward.
Psycholephant 8y ago
Romance is a myth. Modern love was never real. Humans arent meant to be in monogamous long term relationships.
103342 8y ago
I, personally, just don't see the point of getting into a LTR if you still have to keep yourself sharp for just one girl. I just don't get the point.
If I'm going to keep myself in "the game", I rather game a bunch of different girls. Truth is, at some point, my chances of getting laid are bigger with a random girl than with a gf.
You have to understand the side of the girl also. If she is dating you she will eventually make a power play for you to show that you are both exclusive, and heading to something serious. This is usually in the form of a shit-test: "I'm going out with a friend", "I'm going to go out with my girl friends to this nightclub", or she starts trying to make you jealous, etc...
At this point, if you show disinterest she will probably bail, otherwise you are dating a slut basically. But at the same time, if you show you are commited to her she will lose attraction.
Sometimes you just gotta accept the fate of relationships and realize you can't always get without giving anything in return. Either way, you lose.
just_waitforit 7y ago
It doesn't make sense yet. How could it be impossible to keep a girl around? I have a weird mix of emotions from angry, to confused.
TryDoingSomethingNew 8y ago
So it seems! The less you are invested and the less you "care", the less it will bother you when it (likely) falls apart.
RED_PILL_TRUTH 8y ago
You never do it for them. LTR, a virgin, a model, or a harem. You keep yourself sharp for YOU. That is what this entire sub boils down to at the end- providing strategy to navigate the sexual marketplace in a world of lies and disinformation. Follow the advice for a couple years, and put yourself in the top 5%. Some of the concepts like dread, shit tests, abundance mentality, and even stoicism fall into place on their own when you reach the higher levels of SMV.
GC0W30 8y ago
Bullshit. When the relationship ends I get fresh vagina.
Nothing air fresh, new pussy is not winning.
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This is a tough thing to swallow. You just can't win.
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Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago
And remember to always bang strange from minute one. Get caught? "Sorry honey, I'm just hedging my bets."
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polakfury 8y ago
What are the most telling patterns that you see?
yummyluckycharms 8y ago
I think most RPs do this in life because it provides never ending variety, protection from wasting financial resources, and ultimately better sex.
Essentially, we've figured out that this technique generates all upside with no downsides
Gravityflexo 8y ago
What exactly makes a girl a slut these days? Cheating, sex same day as meeting the dude? Because almost every girl is a slut wouldn't that just mean that they are a girl, eventually as more and more girls act the same way, the old slutty behavior becomes the new normal. When most girls are sluts, you just call them girls. You call the prudes out these days because they are the rare ones.
103342 8y ago
Well... That is exactly why TRP exists. You were sold the illusion that you would work, study, eventually find a girl that loves you, get married, and have kids and a family.
But... As you said, being a slut is the norm now, getting attached to a slut makes you an idiot like the guy in OP's story. This is exactly why TRP exists...
Gravityflexo 8y ago
Your saying monogamy and marriage is a sham and it shouldn't be what we strive toward like how it was portrayed to us growing up. I understand that, but I want kids someday and think marriage helps in raising children.
103342 8y ago
If there is no consequence for adultery, if there is no incentive for monogamy, it just doesn't work. This is why people used to say the "redpill" is hard to swallow.
Reality doesn't care about what you want. In fact, I believe most guys here in TRP want the same thing. Hell, even I want to have kids and a family.
But... Our society doesn't incentivize monogamy. This is why MGTOW exists, this is why TRP exists...
TRP is flooded with people that spew what they believe instead of facing what they DON'T want to face.
[deleted] 8y ago
The problem with what you don't want to face is that your mind usually purposefully avoid formulating it clearly.
The TRP "locker room" purpose (to me, atleast) is that one express what he believes to get other people opinion on what he's unconsciously avoiding to face, or if he has a hint already, then to clarify it further.
They are here to face it, but they don't know what they have to face yet, or atleast can't spell it clearly alone.
But you are right that a lot of people seem to come here to listen what they are avoiding just to know it so they can rationalize it again. I fall for it too from time to time but honestly after a year plus here (and i started as a totally lost omega cause) i can basically hear my trp brainside screaming "lol" at the rest of my mind. With time i'm sure errors can be left out by a healthy margin.
So there's always a plus on being there, even if you are still fucking it up, totally or partially.
Orbiter42 8y ago
about safe with one, and not the other
in my research, i found that the male ejaculate, has amazing effects on the female body. the chances are, she craved the essence of the dominate alpha, but did not want the beta-hormones in her blood stream.
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 8y ago
The big take-away here is that being a valuable man and having a high social/sexual market value are NOT the same thing.
This is why so many rich and famous guys and tech gurus and millionaires end up married to slutty cunts that screw them over.
You can be hot, fit, rich, socially connected, and even fun and interesting, but STILL have a low social/sexual market value. You can be a desirable guy. A sexually attractive guy who gets with girls sometimes.
But if you're not the kind of guy who acts the part, drops girls who give you the slightest bit of shit, constantly has and cultivates more options, and dreads the living fuck out of whoever you're dating, your SMV might as well be zero.
It doesn't matter how big your muscles are, how much money you make, or how interesting of a badass you are. If you aren't willing to dominate women, drop and replace them at the slightest hint of shit, and treat them like the worthless cunts they are, then your SMV is zero.
milugan 8y ago
Can you be unfit, poor and socially unconected and have a high smv???
NaughtyFred 8y ago
Serious question.
The previous times in my life where women found me sexually desirable (getting anal, getting one girl after she sees me with another girl, women being submissive, etc.) are when I have been well-built and unemployed (when I had no money I wasn't looking for women). By contrast when I had a respectable job at a University but was dyel I couldn't get laid in a whore house.
Is it possible that for me being muscular and having IDGAF attitude are the elements/keys that gave me relatively high SMV? Like maybe everything else was there but when those 2 factors were lacking my chances were crippled?
[deleted] 8y ago
Money is one of those things can either be beta or alpha. An alpha guy with money is on a whole different level. A beta guy with money is more likely to get married, but it sure won't save him from his wife seeing Chad on the side.
Rommel0502 8y ago
True, with the caveat that the woman ultimately fucking them over are typically orders of magnitude hotter than a poor guy could get. Further, after they are fucked over, there is just another HB10 behind them willing to fuck them for their money.
As Ive said elsewhere here, few problems money cannot solve if you have the right mindset to go along with it. The problems with the Mark Zuckerbergs of the world (hes going to get fucked over, he just doesnt know it yet) is they dont have the right mindset to go along with their money.
topdog82 8y ago
The big take-away here is that being a valuable man and having a high social/sexual market value are NOT the same thing.
yep!^
RunawayGrain 8y ago
Ever wonder why so many older doctors are complete bastards or burn outs? Recent med school graduates get massacred like this. For many of them it's the first time any girl has given them attention, let alone a smoking hot girl. So they oneitis, wife up, and lose half their shit. A good percentage do it again and get really bitter in the long run. That's the pattern with several co-workers and several friends who work in the field. I've literally watched some outgoing and vibrant men turn into hollow shells because because they didn't have the savvy and self control to go with their newfound success. Some of these guys literally will not be in a room alone with a woman, either.
RedPillWintergreen 8y ago
Makes one wonder what the point of being a doctor is when being a misanthropic Chad is so easy.
epixs 8y ago
be a doctors who also a chad.
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NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Deep down women know that because of Child Support Laws there are no consequences in the current reality.
The root of everything is the system.
The system (Blue Pill) rewards the Cock Carouselâ„¢.
Therefore as long as the Blue Pill laws exist the women will be sluts.
End of story.
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NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
What? Feminism participates in the crime.
Child Support Laws were invented as the first Feminist Law and first crime.
It has destroyed the family.
james-watson 8y ago
Actually NRS, giving them the vote is what started the decline.
Without the franchise, they couldn't have voted in the idiots who opened the floodgates to abortion, birth control, no fault divorce, child support, VAWA, etc etc etc.
1920 is when the game was lost for men. It obviously took a long time for the symptoms to manifest, but that was when the first malignant tumor was formed.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
And the plan was hatched on:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jekyll_Island
But the dark forces which drive our current world actually go back much further.
Even before the founding of America there were bankers who had plans to make America their's. When America revolted against the globalist bankers (Bank of England) there were wars that followed. (1812)
Only about 100 years of America can be considered even remotely "free" of globalist criminal activity.
The Federal Reserve provided the money to drive the corruption. Without this power the dark forces could not have achieved most of this stuff.
We are very near to the end of this destruction... the dark forces of globalism will have defeated freedom.
This is why when idiots say:
"I love America because it's free."
...you have to kind of grind your teeth.
james-watson 8y ago
Very true, the financial elites used the expanded franchise as a perfect tool to accelerate their agenda. When you have more sheep voting, it dilutes out the few voters who understand the reality.
But as you said, the financial elite have always been working tirelessly to push their globalist agenda. Women were just the most recent group of pawns used in their schemes.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
This goes all the way back to Jesus.
The world has never successfully created absolute rule by the Dark Luciferians and this attempt was predicted as inevitable 2,000 years ago.
The good news is that the Dark forces do lose... they always lose because the corruption goes exponential the closer you get to ego centered world control.
Natural Laws can only be stretched for so long before things snap back.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
How will women deal with the growing population of Alpha's, Faux Alpha's, Lesser Alpha's and RP'ers though?
Eventually the pendulum will swing when women take it to far. And commitment will be unlikely given out. Most girls that ride the CC do so because they know without a shadow of a doubt that they will be provided for later on.
What happens when men start dumping their girlfriends.
RedPillWintergreen 8y ago
There will always be low value men desperate for any type of pussy that will marry them. Women will always hold the upper hand until they can be replaced.
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They'll marry the state. Have a few illegitimate kids and ride that welfare train to Dolevill, USA.
MisterMisogyny 8y ago
They will continue to ride the CC and fuck AF as Big Daddy Government becomes their BB.
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polakfury 8y ago
Is there any way to fix this system ? Would a man like Trump fix the laws?
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
People keep saying that. I've seen single girls die emotionally inside from loneliness. The shame of having no man that committed while her girlfriends have. It affects them more than you know. They need men for emotional stability. Even more so than the monthly cock plumbing.
[deleted] 8y ago
Look to the black community to see how easy it is to "empower" women within one to two generations.
Rynolz 8y ago
Yeah big daddy Sam got that Gubment dick. Dat shit got looooooong reach.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
They will begin to get desperate.
The Blue Pill combination of laws and utopian brainwashing make women think they will get the Red Carpet treatment for life.
Reality works otherwise.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Yeh I think your comment is much more in line with reality than all the others. People claim that women will go full AF not even bothering with commitment. They don't realize that womens sexual endgame is to get commitment.
Having sex is just a tool (whilst enjoyable) for them to gain control over their men. Check OP's story and even that slut ended up trying to get commitment from BlackChad.
If guys massively start to refrain from giving said commitment, that will do a massive number on female mental stability- frail as it is already.
I do believe that women are shooting themselves in the foot. Like you said, they think they get the red carpet treatment for life. Which is already false (wall hitting) but will only worsen when there are less beta's/needy alpha's to extract commitment from.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
A woman is the reflected image of the man.
When men are lacking then women will equally be lacking.
For every male beta there is a matching female slut.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
The problem is that men meet a slut when she is already a slut. So the damage has already been done. Some other beta male (usually her father) is to blame. But I don't see the connection to beta males/sluts in our society.
Anyway, you're saying that sluts like beta's are failures at their own sexual strategy?
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
Correct.
The male beta and the female slut represent failed human beings and the victory of the Blue Pill which is anti-humanity.
They dumb us down because the dark luciferians want to destroy humanity.
Globalism is the death of humanity and the rise of something darker.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
I always thought so, female sluts act like their hot shit- having been fucked by high value Chads. But that's simply not the case, if you can't extract commitment from men then the woman failed her imperative.
What is the endgame of globalism? Something darker, all I can think of is massive slavery on a global scale. Like we've never seen before.
NeoreactionSafe 8y ago
That and about a 90% reduction in population.
They want to get down to below half a billion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
We'll I've been bitching about the population problem for ages. So that's good. Besides that, hasn't ever war been a 'refreshing of blood'?
Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago
Oh magerd, AWALT. Guess what, had she gotten pregnant with Chad's swimmers, she would've hamstered Jeff into raising the whore spawn, I guarantee it. Sigh. Nothing to do but pump/dump/plate/move on.
themanbat 8y ago
Jeff appealed to her logic. Chad appealed to her emotions/libido. Most women imply don't know how to separate logic and feelings. If they feel a certain way it must be logical in their minds.
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topdog82 8y ago
haha that spelling I saw on the bodybuilding misc and thought it was hilarious. and the fucked part is that she said that verbatim. Depressing that you thought I was exaggerating when I was actually serious.
[deleted] 8y ago
I've heard women say pretty much the same thing, so I don't think you're making it up.
Some of them try to disguise it but wtf do you think the common phrase "I just want to have fun right now" means? It's how slightly smarter women say exactly the same thing; that they want a bad boy.
[deleted] 8y ago
Girl has a bird brain and dresses like a slut.. and OP's buddy actually took this girl seriously as an LTR prospect.
Learn to have better judgement guys. These girls aren't built for LTRs. If someone's stupid, chances are they lack self-control.. Which is going to result in them not holding your feelings or relationship with them in high regard.
Sloots gonna sloot. Most of the time it has nothing to do with you. they don't know any better. That being said, this disqualifies them from any consideration for LTR status.
topdog82 8y ago
this post basically sums up everything I learned the hard way
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I actually learned this the hard way. I LTR'd a stupid chick, and she ended it horribly.
Johnball101 8y ago
Low IQ High time preference r-selected She may be "hot" but she is human garbage.
Mithra9009 8y ago
I'm sorry but I'm going to need an explanation here. What are you saying?
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askmrcia 8y ago
Pretty much. Some guys (actually alot) just get so desperate that when they finally get a nice piece of ass they want to ltr the girl no matter how slutty they are.
A few years ago my cousin tried to date this girl I knew from college. I specifically told him that she's a slut because she banged half the football team. OK not half,more like at least ten of the guys on the team.
He didn't care. After a month he found out she was cheating. Big surprise. Men, stop trying to be captain save a ho. Once a ho, always a ho.
[deleted] 8y ago
Yeah I've been there. If you're say an incel or just never did that well with women, you'll get attached to the first hot piece of ass you score. I guess it's something that takes time to get over.
odiecoyote 8y ago
once a ho, always a ho. there's a strangely beautiful paradox at play here. the dependably undependable.
blackierobinsun2 8y ago
This is why American women don't deserve relationships
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Relevant song
casemodsalt 8y ago
Oh for fucks sake.
Yes, nothing can stop another human being from doing anything.
SmilingWatermelon 8y ago
What ethnicity is this Sarah chick?
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mehdreamer 8y ago
White I guess.
It sounds like one of these BBC cuckload porn fantasy. Hard to believe.
SmilingWatermelon 8y ago
Shit like this does happen. White chicks..provided she is white, do this stuff cause they feel like they can get away with it. Sad thing is that they usually do get away with it.
Lsegundo 8y ago
You're right. That never happens in real life. This post made be true or made up. The story behind it happens every weekend at every college in the world though.
seattleron 8y ago
/u/5JS1XBG64A has it right:
This is the answer, ultimately. And as anyone who reads my posts through the years here knows, I'm a serial LTR'r. But, this strategy is just how it has to be. In my pre TRP days, and even early on, I would see the wrting on the wall, and beta it up until the day came that I was dumped. Now, I enjoy my LTR's as long as I can, but keep my dignity in tact and cut them loose on MY terms. 99% of the time it shocks them because guys don't break up with girls most of the time. Divorces are initiated by women 80% of the time, and probably a higher percentage for breakups.
Because of social media and modern society, women have a severely inflated view of their own SMV. Therefore, hypergamy is at an all-time high. Unless you date down a couple notches, she is going to think she can do better, and she probably has been offered the D by Chad from time to time, even if she's nothing special. It will ring in her ears and you'll get the old, "Do you know how many guys want me right now?!?!" speech. Fucking speech is hilarious. Every time I hear it I crack up, and their mouths drop when I say, "Bitch, you have a vagina and a heartbeat, you ain't nothing special, so stop acting like a conceited bitch. EVERY girl has lots of options for sex, but very few have good options for commitment from quality men. You included, and you fucking know it!"
My last LTR started fantastic. Better than any LTR I've had, and that's saying a lot because I plow through them at a regular rate. Then things started to change and I got mentally prepared for ending it. Little red flags came up, I got more mentally prepared. One day she came over and the last straw led me to: "I don't think this is working, please get your stuff and leave. I should have done this sooner, I no longer want to be with you."
I can do things like that because I mentally prepare for them. Does it hurt? Every fucking time. But it doesn't hurt nearly as bad as being cucked, dealing with a shitty girlfriend, or being dumped yourself.
Keep a wall up as best as you can, enjoy them for their good points, be aware of their bad, and cut them loose the moment you know 100% in your heart it's not going to work out.
You will stay in her head for a long time after, too. You're the guy who dumped an attractive western woman who gets constant validation. A woman who all guys want. There must be something special about you because look at all of these guys wanting me! I'm prettier than every girl in this town! He must have many options and balls of steel to do that, and I now hate myself for being a bitch to him and not appreciating him more. UGHHH!!!
backdoorbum 8y ago
REEEE DEATH TO RACE TRAITORS
killwhiteyy 8y ago
hahaha wow. the way she talks about him volunteering at a hospital like it's pitiable act. this is why we can't have nice things
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Jesus fucking Christ. The hamster is spinning hard.
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
Lol I wouldn't say it's spinning here. She's overtly stating her ambitions, which isn't common.
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ex_addict_bro 8y ago
The truth is, dating someone for 5 years and using protection registers as an infertile male in her lizard brain.
So she just ignored that infertile dude.
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blackhawks93 8y ago
This is why you always get a paternity test. No exceptions.
Gumpool 8y ago
Why do OP keep on obsessing about "Chads" cock?
illisit 8y ago
He's a cuckold writing fan fic about a white girl falling for Tyrone's BBC. He's probably beating his meat to this right now.
AidenOmin 8y ago
Dropped it at 'Chad Thundercock'
stemgang 8y ago
We feel insecure because we crave security. We want to believe that we could have a loyal girlfriend and the dream dies hard.
So of course we speculate on the reasons why she left and how much better Chad's cock must be. It's also a way of buying into female hamstering: she didn't "choose" to leave; "it just happened" when Chad wandered by and seduced her.
It's because we have not yet let go and accepted that she may leave at any time for any reason. There is always someone out there better than you; and there is no such thing as a loyal woman.
TechnoRaptor 8y ago
penis envy is an issue especially in a society that brainwashes all men and women to thinking that good sex will only come from a penis that is huge, and if you don't have a huge penis you deserve to feel emasculated, or if you are a women with a man that has a normal weiner society tells her that she is 'settling' for less of a man then she could have. Also one of the reasons men get hung up on dick size is because women get hung up on it and praise it.
SteezDeezl 8y ago
It's true. Last night a girl im currently banging straight up told me that I'm lucky to have a good looking dick. She said other guys with ugly dicks "will never get the best blowjob" from her just because of their dick size. I mean, that is shitty but I feel the same way with women. I fuck 9s way more passionately with more intensity than the average 7.
Lsegundo 8y ago
I come here for the laughs!
massivewang 8y ago
NO DUDEBRO SELF IMPROVEMENT IS ALL YOU NEED!!! /s
Sorry couldn't help myself. We've got some fucking spergs on this sub who can't comprehend that being a "high quality male" doesn't mean a whole lot when it comes to women. They somehow are forgetting the maxim "alpha fucks beta bucks". Game matters. Frame matters. SMV matters.
Being a hard working, honest, physically fit, wealthy - can help but there are "lesser" men fucking hotter chicks.
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Exactly. If a male celebrity who has the looks, charisma, money and all that can get cheated on, what makes you think you can't get cheated on?
That's the problem. No matter how good you are, women still think they can get better.
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I think reminders like this are important for newcomers and as a refresher from time to time, but this reads like fantasy writing and is exactly the type of shit that betas come here and obsess over - sitting on their couches reading and writing about without ever making improvements to better themselves. I've said it before and I'll say it again: GO BE CHAD - don't sit here reading about him chuckling like you have been told some secret. Girls fuck alpha males, learning that is 1% of TRP. Becoming one is the other 99%.
L1amas 8y ago
Seriously, how could you not go MGTOW with this kind of knowledge?
A girl who is on and off with her bf asked me to sleep over at her place tonight, and honestly I don't even want to do it. I'd rather stay home and play video games than deal with her shit tests, "playing my A-game", being chipper/aloof, and whatever other motions I'm going to need to do to put it in her. Too much effort for a couple of orgasms.
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There is the option of making enough money so you can fuck escorts/prostitutes. Not just because of what you said, but giving the batshit crazy women with false rape accusations these days, it seems like a good option.
J_AsapGem 8y ago
This seems to fit the narrative, i'm calling bullshit
Tarnsman4Life 8y ago
More or less the same situation i am in with my plate. Beta BF is the heir to some fortune or another yet she needs that good dick from me like it was Oxygen.
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sd2001 8y ago
CAUTION: TOUGH LOVE AHEAD:
Whether the story is true or not, it says more about you than it does the three subjects.
You're a nosy gossip. You actually sat there and talked to a girl about her sexual relationship with not one but two other men? And not just one conversation but multiple conversations?
That's creepy and sad.
Focus on your own life. There's more than enough examples of everything this story demonstrates here without you needing to info-pump this dumb bitch for further RP validation like a nosy old cat lady.
FFS man. Go get your own life and stop participating in other idiots' reality show-esque drama.
jlife18 8y ago
Even though Jeff has all that going good for him, he still gets cheated on? Damn female logic sure doesn't make any sense to me
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NAmember81 8y ago
Thanks for my daily reminder to never get in a LTR.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Man... this hopeless fetish white women have for BC (Yes BC, not BBC that's bullshit). It's just sad. Some masterminds up in the clouds puppeteer society and pop culture in such a way that interracial sex becomes a fad- and women are that stupid to fall for it.
I say women because I have never met a white male who purposefully sought out BBB (Big Black Booty), hmm I wonder why that is? Don't get me wrong, I have tons of black mates that I high five when they slay poon. But be honest here, our women are fucking stupid.
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I think it equates to a guy having a list of types of women they'd fuck but not LTR. For example: Red head, Asian, older women, younger women, foreign, and etc. Not saying you do feel like this, but if you feel like white women are laying the nearest black dude and refusing to lay white men, you're poorly mistaken. Check your SMV if you feel like you're losing lays because of black men.
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I would LTR an Asian any day bro. Gotta build those bridges between earths two masterraces.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
I've considered this in the past, it does seem to make sense. Though it's not that white men are missing out because of this. It's that white women seem to bypass normal mate selection when considering a black man for sex. What I mean by this is that they make the decision based on very simple tropes. Them being muscled, big, bbc (this is assumed) and black. In comparison, other men are judged more harshly on their actual SMV, shit tested, gamed etc.
I've got allot of black mates and I can assure you that allot of them never get shit tested at all by their lays. White women straight talk them into bed. One of these friends said that they behave like that often, because they are shy and inexperienced around black guys- but still curious.
This curiosity has been sparkled by the horrible pop culture and media movement. There was a post about this multiculturalism, assimilation and immigration shifting. Someone has a dog in this fight and women are letting themselves get played.
Call me traditional but I am extremely cautious about a woman who has a history with black men. Just like OP's story- that's a prelude to the girl being a slut. Because all this BBC porn brainwashing only works on sluts.
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You'd probably feel that way about a white woman that's fucked other ethnicities too.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
I do, I think white women are running up a reputation for breeding with other ethnicities whilst women from these ethnicities pretty much stay with their own. Despite their 'lower privilege' minorities women are less likely to jump ships.
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I think this story is embellished as well, but stuff like this happens all the time. It happened to me many years ago. I was Jeff to some degree
The dude wasn't a different race, same race and ethnicity. He was simply a few inches taller and richer. And a male model. My LTR at the time branch swung faster than a chimpanzee escaping a jaguar. The same LTR who told me she'd kill herself a year ago if I ever left. None of my attributes mattered, all that mattered was the SMV.
It fucked me up good, but I never took her back. The inner Jeff died. Things changed and my mindset changed, it took time. The Blue Pill died. I realized the lie that was society. Things like this happen for a reason, so that the Blue Pill system is destroyed.
I don't think I could ever be a Chad though...maybe a Khan.
Sepean 8y ago
There is nothing strange about this. Wealth is not an alpha quality, it will not give girls the tingles. Lots of rich men have wives that can't be bothered to fuck them.
Luckyluke23 8y ago
it's kind of funny. I realized that she choose Chad in this situation because
A) she KNOWS jeff will never leave her
but she also knows
b) chad WILL leave her at some point.
so in a way she gets the best of both worlds. she gets " the stable provider" in jeff and she also gets " party fun guy" chad.
she chose chad because Jeff is lacking a fun side.
tyler ( from rsd) always said you can't be the provider first. you have to be the lover, Then the provider ( if you want to)
the dots kind of just conneted for me, Thanks for posting
victor_knight 8y ago
It's all about looks. Just accept it.
Toxicbutt 8y ago
Dont have unprotected sex with sluts like this particular Chad did fellas. If your plate feels safe and complacent with you, than she'll fuck a Chad simple as that. Good post
meninistMD 8y ago
Edit 2 is extremely important detail, thanks for sharing the story with us.
PressureUlcer 8y ago
Advice: ONLY date women that show interest in you. Don't chase women that show little interest in the hopes of 'winning them over' because they will get a sense of empowerment and fuck you over for someone that they are truly interested in.
Overkillengine 8y ago
When a woman does not have to worry about obtaining security (commitment and resources) all that is left to motivate the primal animal portion of her brain is excitement.
Daddy government has ensured even if she screws up in mate selection, she and her offspring will not starve - so provider game is no longer viable. And there are so many men willing to give commitment for less than nothing that she does not have to worry about that either.
So the worst thing one can do as a man is be stable, safe, and thus boring. And one needs to be willing to walk at a moment's notice.
Virtusvitium 8y ago
Holy fuck. Maybe staying away from women period is the only safe bet anymore.
topdog82 8y ago
haha or just don't date dumb sluts. The girl in the OP was a ticking time bomb from the TRP perspective
Highly_Tingled 8y ago
She wants an alpha to shoot a big nasty load in her.
Conveniently, she then wants a sappy weeny beta to provide the accommodations and stability in order create a comfortable nesting area for her and her spawns. She knows he is on her dog leash until the bitter end.
Women sure like to calculate all their options...... If they think they can get away with something, then they will try to . Deep down, they know how innately fucked up they really are.
kyledontcare 8y ago
Kick her to the curb, Jeff, move on, make money, live your life, have fun without women.
topdog82 8y ago
or have fun with multiple women. Not one woman. Jeff could get more women if he just changed his mindset
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illisit 8y ago
She's obviously human trash for her choice in cheating partner.
MedayekMan 8y ago
You mean Chad's abortion. She can't lie her way out of a mixed race child.
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What about all the white people who took black slaves and made them pregnant and "ruining thousands of years of genetics". Gtfo bitch.
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Africans built plenty of civilizations (Mali, Ghana, Egypt, Nubia, Songhai, Axum, Punt, Kush, Great Zimbabwe). Please, tell us, racist white one, if whites are so perfect why do Africans, West Asians and East Asians have civilizations that stretch back 10,000 years into antiquity but, Whites have nothing earlier than Greece? Who admittedly borrowed heavily from Egyptians and Phoenicians to begin with. What were you guys doing?
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This stuff is common knowledge. I feel stupid for even replying to you.
There's this tool called Google. Please use it. You were wrong after Egypt and Nubia not having a written language. You were wrong about Egypt not having any philosophers. PHILOSOPHY WAS THE MAIN DISCIPLINE GREEKS BORROWED FROM AFRICA! Imhotep is thought by many to be the oldest architect, physician and engineer in human history. So, you're wrong about that too. How can you be so ignorant to information that is readily available with just a few clicks?
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For one...Egyptians had a written language. As did Nubians. So that's a lie.
And yes, yes. White people who can barely stand on a beach in 80 degrees without their skin peeling and cracking were running around in Ancient Egypt in 100 degree temperatures bare chested in a kilt. You would have died from skin cancer in a year. Or Arabics who just so happen to have no remnants of Egyptian culture whatsoever in their ancient societies. Not pyramids. Style of dress. Grooming. Religion. Nothing.
Ancient Egypt was started by Nilotic people anywhere from 5,000-8,000 years ago. They traveled up the Nile River from East Africa where it starts, settling down in Egypt where the River ends. This explains why other Nile Valley Civilizations further down the river such as Nubia and Punt pre-date Egypt. The Mountains of the Moon that Ancient Egyptians speak of are the Mountains in Ethiopia and Uganda where the Nile starts. Egypt was conquered several times by Persians, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, etc. Before falling permanently to Arab rule. This is common knowledge. When they were "conquered" by the Nubians, it was more of someone restoring Egypt to its former glory than it was about a foreign group overtaking it. A "Renaissance" period as traditional Egyptian culture, value, art and architecture was restored. Egyptians considered Nubians to be distant cousins. There was no such relationship between Egyptians and Arab peoples. And there's also, you know, the study by DNA tribes that showed multiple Pharaohs clustered most heavily with Sub-Saharan Africans (particularly Central/Great Lakes and South Africans).
http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf
Great Zimbabwe is just a "small pile of stones" but, your people tried to claim it as a white civilization once.
You skipped over Mali, Ghana, Songhai, Nubia, Punt, Kush and Axum. All prosperous kingdoms. Some being more prosperous than European kingdoms were at the time. Such as Mali, the second largest empire during that period behind the Mongols. Mali had the largest university at the time, where Europeans visited and studied. Mansa Musa is the richest man to have ever lived. And they were all WEST AFRICAN. I don't know why you skipped over this. Some of these kingdoms were around thousands of years before Whites did anything of note. Like Punt, Kush, Nubia and Egypt.
Name an invention from a black African? How about everything Greece took from Egypt. We'd be here all day.
I'll raise you a better question....seeing as how Africans in Antiquity had Egypt, Kush/Nubia and Punt, Asians had China, and Arabs had Babylon and Sumeria....please, tell us what Europeans were doing before 2,000 B.C.?
I'll wait.
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You're an idiot for even asking this question.
Philosophy, Astronomy, Mathematics, Art and Architecture. The Alphabet. The use of a specialized Pantheon of Gods. The concept of an afterlife. Even Greek statues were influenced by Egyptian statues.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eA8m3I2idY4/UU71uo6DauI/AAAAAAAAAvc/NdAeAVLCWWc/s1600/egypt-meets-greece.jpg
The 365 day calendar. Mesopotamia gave Greece a lot too, the alphabet in addition with Egypt, as well as the concept of city-states. So white people borrowed a lot from black and brown people. People you call savages and inferiors today.
You haven't replied to nearly anything I wrote earlier. I'll assume you have nothing to say. Learn your own history first before you start sprouting off racist bullshit. Superior race my ass. Your people did NOTHING before Greece, which came thousands of years after advanced non-white civilizations, and borrowed heavily from them to start theirs. Dumbass.