Vasalgel needs 103k more dollars to start the next steps of their trial. If 2% of our members on this sub (2% of 152k is 3040) could commit to 33 dollars to the cause they would be fully funded overnight.
I hereby pledge to send them that amount (even though I can't really afford it) and I'd urge you to do the same and comment below saying if you did. We really need this technology to give men back their reproductive rights. Together we could knock this out of the park. If you are a career driven man please consider giving back so future generations of men don't get the saddled with child support rape. It's probably the most beneficial thing you could do for our cause.
Here is the donation page- https://parsemusfoundation.secure.nonprofitsoapbox.com/donate
Here's the most recent news from their email campaign-
EDIT BY REQUEST:
Vaselgel In summary- they inject your sperm tubes with a polymer that prevents sperm exiting into your semen.
If you want it reversed you inject a different polymer and it flushes the existing one out. In theory it's less painful and has less risks than a vasectomy and should be better because it's reversible.
Sperm is only 5% of your loads so the change is not noticeable and the process should not leave a scar. They've had good success in rabbit trials at making them infertile and now they want to test the reversal procedure.
Its a non-profit organisation (which blows my mind that someone like the gates foundation doesn't fully fund them, because the costs are low and the vision is clear, it's not like they are curing cancer)
UPDATE: After 12 hours 606 dollars have been pledged so far in the comments. If we could even make it to 1030 dollars it would be 1% of the remainder of what they need.
UPDATE AFTER DAY TWO: I've totaled $1092 pledged on this thread. Well done, keep it up we've reached 1% of the remainder of what they need. If you can donate please do.
UPDATE AFTER DAY FOUR: $1388 pledged on this thread.
Trucks_N_Chainsaws 7y ago
Fuck donations. I want to write them a check for $10,000 and 1% ownership stake in the company.
popthatpill 7y ago
The latest email update (~7pm Friday UTC) said it's about 33% there ($41400 out of $127k).
[deleted] 7y ago
This is fantastic. I'm definitely gonna donate. I have always considered a vasectomy and happy this might be possible.
MasterRoshi21 7y ago
My indebted ass just threw in $33.
Zander_aq 7y ago
Gave 10. Hope I get to see it available in my country in 10 years.
CryptoManbeard 7y ago
I pledged twice before the thread went up. Been following this since some doctor in India made the news for shoving plastic in people's sacks for the price of a needle. I'm hoping to be one of the first people in the US to get plastic nut injections.
meanwhile_in_SC 7y ago
Donated.. With that sweet sweet bitcoin
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whatsazipper 7y ago
I donated $10 a moment ago. Another small nudge forward. I've been a steady contributor to the project.
RPRedhead 7y ago
It would be nice if they showed how much they've raised so far. Weekly or monthly totals or % towards goal?
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Master1176 7y ago
Just threw down $50. Great cause!
RedPillJohnny 7y ago
You guys know that every single birth control method other than pull out and pray has serious health side effects and is never 100% effective right?
The birth control pill is ridiculously dangerous to women's hormones. Things growing wrong with an IUD can be both life threatening and permanent. Condoms are fine but rip and break and can be sabatoged...still a better idea than the other two.
The idea that some form of miracle male birth control will appear that does not have any side effects is a pipe dream and I for one will never participate in big-pharma's attempt at interrupting the insemination process.
With all that being said men should still always control the birth. And never purchase the first incarnation of any product....lap top, car, or an experimental semi-permanent sterilizing procedure.
_eskimo_brothers_ 7y ago
Let's not instill fear for no reason. Birth control for women vs birth control for men are hugely different. Men don't really have that many options.
None of our forms of birth control are like what women have to deal with, none of that hormone crap - so let's just stop comparing the two right there.
Technically with RISUG was the first incarnation in India with inserting a polymer into the vas defrens. Obviously there is a risk with anything, but let's not put unnecessary fear into it. It's not big pharma - if anything they don't want this to come to market and this isn't some 1984 sterilization conspiracy.
Nobody is forcing this, it's an attractive option for guys who honestly were really considering a vasectomy anyways. I know I'm in that group. Even with a girl on BC, I'd like to not worry about a condom assuming it's someone who I know is clean with documentation to back it up and is not sleeping around. That way if she does end up pregnant, I know she cheated and I can simply end it there without any drama.
I'll be donating at least $50.
RedPillJohnny 7y ago
Your points are 100% valid and I support them all...but all medical intervention in the body's natural processes need to be looked at with skepticism and distrust...I am not saying that they ALL are to be distrusted but new incarnations of new technology, from a brand new laptop up to lasik surgery, need to be carefully thought about.
This is your body we are talking about here, specifically your dick, and rushing into something with complete faith that everything will be fine and that the scientists all did their due diligence is somewhat foolish...and all for what? Sex with a reduced risk of babies.
So go for it. Donate all you want. I ain't against it. I truly hope science has discovered the first contraceptive that doesn't have harmful side effects....that would be amazing. This is a big deal.
All I am doing is preaching caution because no one else here is.
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Rumble_in_the_Jungle 7y ago
Donated $25. Let's keep this going.
QQ_L2P 7y ago
Donated $50. Even if I'm too much of a schlub to use it right now, other men might find a use for it.
We flat out need this.
Enjoyitbeforeitsover 7y ago
Id be down to do this, but is this shit painful? Or is child support more painful haha.
phil619 7y ago
Donated 11. I f every member of this sub donated $1 they would even have extra for the well deserved beer of saving men everywhere
TekkomanKingz 7y ago
I have donated today. Let's get this moving.
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[deleted] 7y ago
I donated $0 to Bernie. Match me!
Fuck it I donated $25, it's probably throwing money into a giant pit, considering I have a referral for a vasectomy here, but so is the rest of what I spend money on.
frys180 7y ago
This'll make Bernie supporters laugh :D
Also I matched you and raise!
This will be a godsend for me. I hate condoms and would much prefer this over rubbers that reduce sensation.
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double-meat-fists 7y ago
Could only do $10. Wish I could do more.
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The godking has donated $10.
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michael6795 7y ago
Donated 33. Looking forward to seeing this during my lifetime
realrafaelcruz 7y ago
Threw down $100. Did my part. Might also be worth posting in other subs like mensrights etc.
adam-l Endorsed Contributor 7y ago
Men's Rights stickied it too.
Nice to see TRP and Men's Rights joining efforts in this!
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u/realrafaelcruz paid my share, too. Thanks man.
TheRedStoic 7y ago
Sent this thread to my bros. We'll be skipping our monthly blast out and donating the avg cost instead. Thanks for the update. Pretty sure even some of the women who come will donate too.
You should really be doing updates on this whenever there's improvement. Some of us just forget it's happening.
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
I look forward to seeing feminist blog posts about "How To Check Your Man For Vasalgel" and "My Boyfriend Had Vasalgel Done Without My Consent - Should I Ditch Him?" etc.
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Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
I would love to see the court transcript of the hamster explaining why he owes her a baby and the money that would have gone along with it.
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causeandcorrelation 7y ago
There is plenty to be irate about without having to get angry about things that haven't happened yet.
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
I'm not angry at all, just making predictions. It is easy because they're so damned predictable.
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Let's get someone into writing articles like those so these women can self-sabotage themselves out of our lives.
Whisper 7y ago
Perhaps we could provoke them into writing such articles by starting a "Vasalgel and don't tell!" slogan circulating.
2Bait4Me 7y ago
She said she was on the pill, but "forgot it", she was wondering why I was smiling the whole drive to the shops for a test.
No Vas-al-tel or #ImNotVas-Al-Telling
Betamax69 7y ago
DONE. It is to late for me. Got my vasectomy 17 years ago after getting jammed with child support after divorce raped. If this saves even one of you from the family court system it is so worth it.
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FiveDelta 7y ago
I'm in fucking college and I just donated. This is such a good program because it prevents you from getting any permanent body part cut/ severed.
AND IT's 100% REVERSIBLE UPON CHOICE! My board-certified urologist can't wait for this to get FDA approved.
Shut up and take my money.
Edit: Good point by Mooshaq, it's probably 99.X% effective. It will be interesting to see what the difference is between Vasagel and Vasectomies....there is actually a big difference between 99.9% and 99.999999%. Each decimal could be hundreds of subjects, dependent on the volume.
Edit 2: I donated $25
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Hopefully it will be. The trials so far show that it is irreversible in large primates. Humans have larger vas than other primates so there is hope the human trials will be more of a success.
Mooshaq 7y ago
Just a little nitpicking, but nothing in medicine is really 100%. If this does make it to market, there will be statistics and warnings and it will give some kind of number for failure of reversal as possible outcomes of the procedure. Granted it may be like 0.2% reversal failure but it's unethical to tell a patient that it's 100% guaranteed.
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It's the classic "Our cleaning product kills 99.9999% of bacteria, just in case we need to legally protect our ass"
randomkloud 7y ago
actually, a lot of disinfectant or cleaning products cannot kill microbial spores. If you want 100% cleaning you'd have to sterilize it.
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PoorlyTimedPun 7y ago
You might want to talk about what the hell this stuff is. I went to both the pages linked and can't really figure it out. Long lasting non hormonal male contraceptive? In the form of what? I can't be bothered to research this, but if it could actually do what they say they really shouldn't be struggling to get 100k in funding.
randomkloud 7y ago
they have trouble with funding because there's not much profit in this and that's why a non-profit is running this. you get an operation once, and to reverse you have another. Compare that to contraceptive pills which are consumed and you have to keep buying them. Even condoms are single use.
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forcevacum 7y ago
I've written emails to their marketing department about the lack of clarity on their website.
In summary- they inject your sperm tubes with a polymer that prevents sperm exiting into your semen.
If you want it reversed you inject a different polymer and it flushes the existing one out.
In theory it's less painful and has less risks than a vasectomy and should be better because it's reversible.
Sperm is only 5% of your loads so the change is not noticeable and the process should not leave a scar. They've had good success in rabbit trials at making them infertile and now they want to test the reversal procedure.
Its a non-profit organisation (which blows my mind that someone like the gates foundation doesn't fully fund them, because the costs are low and the vision is clear, it's not like they are curing cancer)
FiveDelta 7y ago
Edit the post and include this! This is very helpful.
PoorlyTimedPun 7y ago
Thanks for the info! I'd add it to the main post.
karmalizing 7y ago
Sounds like 1st world genocide to me.
forcevacum 7y ago
Well so too is the contraceptive pill but that was framed as women's liberation instead of genocide. The point is that you'll have an option to have kids, children will be chosen to be born when the time is right, not by a drunken mistake from a girl who chooses not to have an abortion. At least this way men will have the option to choose.
Rikvidr 7y ago
Vasalgel. It is a gel injection that gets injected through your urethra and lasts a period of time, and is reversable.
Mooshaq 7y ago
No no no. You'd clog the shit out of your urethra and you wouldn't be able to pass urine or semen well at all. It is injected into both of your vas deferens which is the tube that brings your sperm up from your testicles to the area around your bladder and prostate where semen is mixed together. All it does is
shred the sperm as they passblock sperm from passing through the tubes; it doesn't affect anything else in the semen and it's definitely not injected in the urethra.EDIT: So I thought Vasalgel was the same thing as RISUG but it's a slight bit different. RISUG is injected in the same place and is the exact same concept, but it works by creating an electrochemical gradient which shreds the sperm as they pass by. Vasalgel works as a physical barrier and just prevents sperm from passing through it so they instead get reabsorbed.
naMlliPdeR 7y ago
Yes, RISUG sounds amazing. Back when I found out that Vasalgel doesn't do the same thing, I'm turned off to the idea. I don't like the idea of anything blocking sperm, because the body will have to reabsorb it, and it can start producing anti bodies for sperm, and who knows what else.
In general, I'm not a fan of blocking anything in my body. Shredding the sperm as they pass sounded great. Shame vasalgel is not taking that route.
whatsazipper 7y ago
Why did they decide to block instead? It makes much less sense. If you have a pathway that avoids antibody production, that would be the way to go.
naMlliPdeR 7y ago
Who the fuck knows. Blocking sounds easier to do, they probably took the easy way figuring "it's the same shit".
Then again, what do I know. Was very disappointing though when I first read about it.
Voctr 7y ago
The same thing happens when you don't jerk off for a while or otherwise stimulate yourself to orgasm. The excess sperm gets reabsorbed by your body. Not sure how this would change anything.
whatsazipper 7y ago
The situation is not analogous. The physical blocking creates a problem resulting in antibody production. Not jerking off isn't going to cause you to develop antibodies. This is one of the problems with vasectomy, and RISUG was a means of avoiding this. Unfortunately, the makers of Vasalgel decided to occlude the vas deferens as well, making the product better than a vasectomy but still not as good as what it could be.
Edit: With that said, I'm a consistent contributor to Vasalgel. It's a step in the right direction.
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You can learn to orgasm without ejaculating.
naMlliPdeR 7y ago
I know, I've done it on multiple occasions. It's not as enjoyable though, and takes a ton of effort (maybe gets easier with practice, but I never bothered to really stick with it).
tubulardude 7y ago
Also donated $33. This is truly a great and under-appreciated cause. Everyone who can afford to donate should.
The fact that they have already proven that this medical technology works in smaller mammals is, to me, huge, and really makes me question why the B&M Gates Foundation isn't taking notice. (https://www.parsemusfoundation.org/contraceptives/vasalgel/peer-reviewed-publication-rabbit-study-results/)
trptwerp 7y ago
I can't wait until I can donate. By the time I'm old enough, this stuff is probably still going to be on trials. And by the time its done, the apocalypse would be near.
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Hexthorne 7y ago
Also threw $50 down - no kids and I don't want them for a while. Likely I'll have them by the time this product hits the market, but that doesn't bother me.
whateveridiot 7y ago
Donate, now. Or you'll accidentally donate sperm later.
randomkloud 7y ago
You mean my Tabasco flavored sperm?
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
That'd be a perfect advertising slogan.
TheIncredibleMrDarcy 7y ago
I have signed myself up to be a test subject. Of selected I'll give the forum here some updates. ????✌????
FiveDelta 7y ago
Lucky. They are based on the West Coast right? I emailed and got a response saying there are no plans for East Coast testing this year at least.
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CryptoManbeard 7y ago
Would only be for a limited amount of products. In this case there's no money to be made for the injection since it's non-patentable plastic. But there is clearly a need and audience for the product as no reversible vasectomy exists today.
FiveDelta 7y ago
In life science software here. I think even with the crowdfunding it still takes so much time and money to get to market. I think the best thing happening is direct investments into biotech/pharma startups by Family Offices. Family Offices are uber rich ($30M+) single families or groups of families that invest, and when they do they usually do it long term and not for a quick turn around like a Venture Capitalist.
One recent trend, is for families of high wealth to invest into a disease space that has historically affected their family. You know the Dolby Sound systems in most movie theaters/IMAXs? Well that family invests into Alzheimer's startups because Ray Dolby (founder) suffered from that. They care less about making a large return rather than making significant progress towards a cure.
TL;DR: Super rich people, who have to hire CFOs to manage their assets are now investing into life science startup directly. MUCH better option than VC.
RICCIedm 7y ago
You can't afford 33 dollars, but are concerned about being "child support raped".
Yeah...
forcevacum 7y ago
Just because I can't afford something now doesn't mean I can't afford it in the future.
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forcevacum 7y ago
Yeah, but I did pledge to do it. I didn't intend to bring my personal matters into it, but I do intend on following through even though I don't have an income at the moment.
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Yeah if this guy can't afford 33 dollars I think potential child support is the least of his problems...
attemptist 7y ago
If this guy can't afford 33 dollars imagine how fucked he is in the event that he's ordered to pay child support.
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attemptist 7y ago
Absolutely. But I've been in both positions where I am flush and don't really feel the sting of paying $1k child support per month, and not so great times where you really feel it. I know which hole I'd rather be in.
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attemptist 7y ago
Jesus, that's HIGH. I'm glad you got out of it. I managed something similar in the end, I have half custody of my kids and an agreement that prevents her from going after me for child support in case the $15k she owed me in the divorce wants to come due (it would make more financial sense for her to pay that out and take child support but she's not good enough with money nor long-term thinking for it to be much of a risk). I really lucked out in the end compared to others around here, mostly because I was lucky to have that leverage. My country fortunately does not have alimony, and certainly not such punitive figures as that.
RedDeadlift 7y ago
Done. Donated $33. Thanks for the notification.
Hibear 7y ago
Damn it! They don't accept BTC can I convert BTC to visa or something similar?
Mooshaq 7y ago
I'm assuming BTC means bitcoin? If so, they have a link on their page at the top which leads to this bitcoin donation page.
Hibear 7y ago
Yes bitcoins! Thank you for the link sent them $4 by BTC and $140 by post
solidsnork 7y ago
Someone donated $13,000 in BTC to Vasalgel just now but it was declined because of a 10,000 daily limit.
Hibear 7y ago
Woah damn! Why is it limited but?
solidsnork 7y ago
I think coinbase has that limit by default and they need to agree to pay a percentage for anything over that. They said they have done that so hopefully the guy sends the payment again.
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Wait??
Donate money to a medical industry for the right to buy their product in the future.
Am I the only one that thinks this is a scam?? If it's a legit company they should have plenty of funding, and if their product is legit then they should be able to raise the money easily by selling stocks..
I would bit into the stocks since it would easily turn a profit
FiveDelta 7y ago
If you learn about the back story, how it is a small wealthy family who made most of their money from the construction business (wealthy but not crazy rich, like under $10 million) they licensed this product, and have to get it approved...it's not a true biotech startup or pharma company. It's a foundation (doesn't really matter) but more of an organization that has an asset ready to bring to market, but it needs to go through the regulatory process.
[deleted] 7y ago
Then they should still their patent to a bigger company.. If the product is legit someone will buy it
Nogaz 7y ago
I am sure a company that manufactures birth control would love to buy the patent so it never hits the market
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[deleted] 7y ago
I wish we would do a drive like this for http://www.foregen.org/.
sqerl 7y ago
Wasn't sure if to make the donation in memory of all the men that got divorced raped or in honor of the men trying to make a level playing field.
Regardless, donation made.
redpillyoda 7y ago
Donated 50 :)
whateveridiot 7y ago
Donated when they first announced the fund raising, will donate again. Shame it's donations and not equity in the company, I'd invest $10,000 easily.
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INTJokes 7y ago
I've seen stories posted here where men showed documented evidence of a vasectomy to get out of child support. Would evidence of this procedure carry the same weight?
popthatpill 7y ago
Wouldn't a DNA test make more sense?
Overkillengine 7y ago
I think men by default should always contest paternity even when they are fairly sure the child is theirs.
Currently it is the only way other than intentional sterility to nip paternity fraud in the bud since the government will not help of its own impetus.
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Sometimes it doesn't matter. Men can be labelled a father by proxy by the courts even if it wasn't theirs.
Overkillengine 7y ago
True, and men would do well to not allow themselves to be in situations and jurisdictions where that is considered an acceptable legal practice, both for themselves as individuals and as a collective.
The machine cannot run without men to fuel it.
FreeRadical5 7y ago
This could not happen sooner. Donated 50.
steelerfaninperu 7y ago
I would like to make one edit to your original post:
The stuff has been around in India and human trials have been going on for over ten years. So far there hasn't been any indication that it doesn't work, although the full data from the trials has not been publicly released yet.
popthatpill 7y ago
Can this post be pinned? We need to signal boost this. Donate to the war effort, guys!
forcevacum 7y ago
Since the purpose of TRP is:
I think that Vaselgel is very strongly aligned with our values and I can't see why every update isn't discussed here with great interest.
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It is. There's always a comment in threads about paternity.
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[deleted] 7y ago
I definitely spread the word about this.
Red_Brain 7y ago
I'm young, and make $11 an hour, here's $33.
redpillschool Admin 7y ago
Generally we don't sticky or even tolerate funding pages (especially since they can be abused), however Vasagel is a worthwhile treatment that could help men everywhere.
finitely_eclectic 7y ago
Thank you for giving us the opportunity and making us aware of this.
new_alpha 7y ago
Is this foundation reliable?
redpillschool Admin 7y ago
I'll put it this way, these guys are vasalgel. We've been promised this solution for over 10 years though, and so far it's been vaporware.
I'd say they're reliable as far as where their hearts are, but I don't know if we'll ever see results. My understanding is that funding has been a large obstacle.
randomkloud 7y ago
afaik, these guys have licensed vasalgel from its indian creator and they have through jump through a lot of hoops to be FDA approved. I've read somewhere (can't recall) about the human trials being done in India with volunteers
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MGTOWmadness 7y ago
And you should continue to observe that rule.
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Trying to be edgy?
BlackSamKnight 7y ago
College Student here, Just threw down $10, about the price of a box of condoms where I live. We need more control over our reproduction rights. No one deserves to be divorceraped over a broken condom.
234-567 7y ago
Just dropped 200. Can't wait for this to happen.
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I donated $50 to their campaign months ago. Godspeed.
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popthatpill 7y ago
The social climate as regards male contraception isn't ever going to improve - so it's now or never.
MGTOWmadness 7y ago
Vasalgel is owned by an LLC. This is a for-profit as it comes.
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Do you know why insurance companies cover birth control 100%? Because kids are fucking expensive. Vasalgel will definitely make it to the market, considering that insurance companies will benefit.
FleetingWish 7y ago
Eh, insurance companies don't have a lot of say in what comes to market. That is more in the hands of drug companies and the FDA.
[deleted] 7y ago
Then they shouldn't need donations. Such a product would show a future profit making it easy to raise funds by selling stocks
Rikvidr 7y ago
I'm no scientist, so I'm not sure how they would even test this on humans. Inject it into human test subjects, and then what? The test subject has sex and sees if the woman gets pregnant? Not that I'm not all for a male contraceptive, and this certainly seems promising, I guess I just don't understand what the testing process would entail.
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7y ago
They check your semen for the presence of sperm. No woman needed.
FiveDelta 7y ago
Science dork here.
First, it is tested to make sure it won't kill anyone, then it's tested for side effects, and then it is tested & compared to the leading standard (Non-Scalpel Vasectomy).
The testing here, when it gets to males to test if it works/ is efficient will measure 2 end points I think...1. Is the rate of pregnancy after Vasagel 0? and 2. Does pregnancy occur after Vasgel is reversed (remember, this is a procedure that can be reversed upon choice, e.i. for males that want children when they find the right partner)
Google Clinical Trials if you'd like to know more about the design of studies and how drugs are often compared to the current standard of care.
Mooshaq 7y ago
It's much more likely that the outcome measures will be viability of sperm in samples of ejaculate in men who have the procedure done and then men who have the procedure reversed.
There are THOUSANDS of factors that affect a woman's ability to get pregnant, so testing the ability to impregnate a woman would bring in thousands of confounders and would be a completely useless study since you cannot possibly control for every single variable.
I'd read up a bit more on clinical trial design since you have a good overview grasp of it but you're a bit fuzzy on the details.
Phase I trials ask the question, "is it safe?"
Phase II trials ask the question, "does it work?"
Phase III trials ask the question, "how does it compare to the standard of care? is it non-inferior or inferior?"
Phase IV trials ask the question, "now that it's been on the market for awhile, what are some long-term side effects we didn't think about?"
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forcevacum 7y ago
They have a list of people who are willing to get the procedure done knowing that it may not be reversible and are ok with the consequences. Sperm count tests are done to see the differences over time. A different form of the injection has been taking place in Indian for the past 30 years where the injection was intended to be one way. They've bought the patent and fine tuned the polymer so it's better suited for reversibility.
Rikvidr 7y ago
I was under the impression that the gel doesn't destroy sperm, but renders them useless upon leaving the penis. I guess I need to read up on this more.
forcevacum 7y ago
Technically it destroys the sperm's ability to swim by ionic interaction as it passes through the polymer, some non-swimming sperm get broken back down into the body but some make it through the membrane so in a way its less disruptive to your hormone regulation than a vasectomy because in a vasectomy the vas dermas are completely disconnected and studies about the effect of this on the hormone system are inconclusive (but don't seem to be too drastic on the body by the same token)
legion327 7y ago
Can confirm. Vasectomy produced no appreciable difference in my day-to-day other than sore balls for a couple weeks and a monumental as fuck sense of relief and security. Otherwise, I'm the same guy.
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Rikvidr 7y ago
Thank you for your concise reply.
Mooshaq 7y ago
I thought so too, but that is how RISUG works, which is the product they are/were testing in India. Apparently Vasalgel is literally just a physical barrier that prevents sperm from passing through; it does not shred the sperm like RISUG does.
Vasectomy is not even remotely disruptive to your hormone regulation.