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So many posts on here seem to be warning guys about the dangers of sluts and BPD women, and red flags and getting cucked and that sort of thing. And sure, all of these warnings are valid if you make the mistake of falling in love with girls that exhibit these traits and expect to marry them or make them your girlfriend. So don't do that.

It's a big world and full of lots of interesting creatures like poisonous snakes and snapping turtles and sharks, but that doesn't mean these creatures are bad or evil, you just have to be careful around them and handle them properly.


If you want to pick up a poisonous snake and hold it and play with it, you have to wear gloves, keep it far away from your face so that it can't bite you, etc. Right? Common sense. When you see a girl that you know is a slut because, for example, you met her on Tinder, or she lives down the hall from you in your dorm and you know she's a bad girl... Handle her properly! Right of the bat you know she's no virgin, and who knows how impossibly high her N-count is or what kind of fucked-up personality traits she has. None of that really matters. When its your turn with her, treat her like you won a free ticket to a whorehouse and she's yours to play with for as long as the free ticket is valid. You know it's not going to last forever. Your goal isn't to change her and make her something she's not. Your goal is to have fun and enjoy yourself the same way you would if you got some free VIP pass to a strip club or whatever. It's good fortune, and you should enjoy your good fortune.


Imagine that one day you walk out of your dorm room and there's a tray of muffins someone left in the common room, and there's one muffin left. Since nobody's around and it's going to waste, you eat it, and it's the best, freshest most delicious muffin you ever tasted. That's great, right! Maybe tomorrow you go out again and the tray of muffins isn't there. That's too bad, but you can't get all depressed about it. A week later the tray reappears. Maybe there's one muffin there, maybe two. How wonderful. Take advantage of it. Enjoy them. They won't last forever.


Bad girls are like free muffins. You can't expect them to be there for you. It's not going to last. You don't know where they came from or where they've been and if they're ever going to reappear. You can't get all upset if they never come back again. You have to use a little common sense and due diligence to make sure you're not getting poisoned, but other than that, your goal should be to enjoy the unexpected freebie that appeared before you. And you certainly shouldn't be all upset if you see some fat fuck like Harvey Weinstein with a big tray full of free muffins that you like but can't have today. Protect yourself, enjoy the freebie while it lasts, and don't be upset when it disappears.



[-] Pezotecom 120 Points 4 months ago

But free muffins don't threat to kill themselves or acuse you of rape.

So, there's that.

[-] Your_Coke_Dealer 26 Points 4 months ago

Hey, for all anyone knows, some asshole put poison in the muffins. But that’s unlikely, so you still take the free muffin anyway.

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[-] EPArt 0 Points 4 months ago

Thats just stupid. Its not like some asshole put a lil poison on the muffin its more like the muffin is made out of poison. Its more likely saying the free muffin is expired and if someone is handing out free muffins its most likey out of date. That being said a muffin (of no guaranteed quality) that has potential to ruin your life, tarnish your name or even kill you, with the only benefit being that it may taste good and is free . That sounds like the food of fools to me. Why take dumb risks just for a bit of pussy.

[-] odaklanan_insan 6 Points 4 months ago

Do you mean there are no safe ways to do casual hook-ups?

[-] Jfc_Manners 5 Points 3 months ago

Shit man, you can choke on your tongue in your sleep, there's no safe way to exist.

[-] Imperator_Red 0 Points 4 months ago

Not a very good analogy. It's like the difference between getting in a car accident (an improbable event that I still must plan for and attempt to mitigate) and being struck by a meteor (an event so improbable that it is not worth thinking about).

[-] jamesbond0512 7 Points 4 months ago

Build frame and learn red flags like any other survival skill. It’s all a good game.

[-] yomo86 2 Points 4 months ago

Could have been said about the duke lacrasse team. Awsome game, Chads galore. but got fucked by a stripper.

[-] Lordvarkss 5 Points 4 months ago

Free muffins don't say they had a miscarriage a week after you slept with them and insinuate you were the dad.

Free muffins don't do a lot of things. Fucked up women can (and do) try to mess up/mess with your life. Avoid them like a leper.

[-] SidgeBlueCollars 4 Points 4 months ago

This!! Seriously, stay tf away from BPD chicks! I understand what you’re trying to say OP, but anyone who has spent time with a BPD girl will tell you to STAY AWAY!! They can legit ruin lives.

[-] HeadingRed 2 Points 4 months ago

Amen brother - and while I think too many here see every woman they have had a problem with think they are BPD until you've experienced one you have no idea of the level of pain someone can inflict on you.

[-] Damien_Scott 1 Point 3 months ago

But you CAN still stick your dick in the muffin.

[-] MasterShake777 73 Points 4 months ago

I might have a free muffin tonight but if not, oh well. I'll just find another muffin.

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[-] justtenofusinhere 38 Points 4 months ago

That's all good advice, but it overlooks one thing, camouflage. The viper usually blends into it environment so it's prey can't see it until it strikes. The leopard hides so it can ambush.

Women aren't passive or simple creatures who hurt men only through men's carelessness. They are evolved creatures who have natural skill sets designed to let them prey on men.

[-] mraxelrodi 6 Points 4 months ago

This. Guys here completely neglected the dynamics in this. When they go after you, and you are not skilled/experienced and don't have many other options even as alpha you can get hunted down.

[-] Nicolas0631 1 Point 4 months ago

Then 2 choice stay in monk mode for ever and don't ever meet another women. Or maybe anybody, it is too risky.

Or do as most sane people do, you live your life, but you don't instantly trust people, you check them before commit if you ever commit. And when somebody isn't meeting your expectactions, then just let it go. Don't go yourself crazy about it.

[-] odaklanan_insan 2 Points 4 months ago

There goes "sex after first date".

[-] Nicolas0631 1 Point 4 months ago

Potentially yes, or at least take precautions if you do it :)

[-] nebder 0 Points 4 months ago

Do you choose to be prey or predator

[-] justtenofusinhere 1 Point 4 months ago

You think the hunter cannot become the hunted?

[-] nebder 2 Points 4 months ago

A smart hunter brings bear spray to bear country.

Game is your offensive tool to combat feminine wiles. Any defense will be overrun by a dedicated aggressor given enough time. Defending will always result in a loss in this arena.

So decide: are you a winner or a loser

[-] cat_magnet 30 Points 4 months ago

I had this exact mindset for the entirety of my fwb relationship with a slut for the last six months. She left because I refuse to leave my live in LTR. Still stings though even though I knew she was a slut that couldn't be LTRed and I knew it would end eventually.

[-] mingamo 14 Points 4 months ago

Happpened to me too. This bitch grabbed a BB while we were fucking to fill the emotional void. He's a long distance fella (lol). Meanwhile she's constantly stating how much she loves me while we fuck. Poor guy. I can't believe how delusional both A. The girl in question, and B. The beta is. When she's not incredibly horny she leaves for a bit. Basically alpha widowed.

[-] ex_addict_bro 26 Points 4 months ago

You're a guy who considers eating shit somebody you don't know left in a public place. Fuck me if I'm taking ANY advice from you.

[-] 0io- 16 Points 4 months ago

Fair enough. If the muffin doesn't look and smell delicious you just have to leave it alone, Brother. It's certainly not without risks.... Good luck finding the bakery where everything is virgin and pure and untouched by human hands.

[-] BloodSurgery 11 Points 4 months ago

I don't think he's looking for pure virgins, but he certainly ain't looking for mentally ill bitches either yo

[-] xddm2653 6 Points 4 months ago

Nobody is mentally perfect, specially not bitches

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[-] ex_addict_bro 2 Points 4 months ago

There was that argument fallacy post not so long ago that was actually good. Looks like you've read it, aight?

[-] Noblefiz -6 Point 4 months ago

They're tagged for a reason. Respect it.

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[-] Noblefiz 1 Point 4 months ago

How cocky you perceive someone to be is irrelevant. The fact is that tagged members have earned recognition for their contributions to the community and thus deserve respect. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't amount to much in life if you don't respect those who have earned their place in a hierarchy. You may not like them or what they have to say, but you don't have to like someone to respect them.

[-] UnleashYourLife 2 Points 4 months ago

He's a big boy that can stand up for himself

[-] Managicall 8 Points 4 months ago

eating shit somebody you don't know left in a public place.

Such is the nature of all food unless you grow it yourself. Now you realize the level of crazy hippy crap you are saying right now.

What is in question is the distribution and transaction practices in how to protect from brigands. This situation affects more than just relationships, but many problems in society now days. There are far too many middle men, supplicants, and saboteurs.

[-] Nicolas0631 2 Points 4 months ago

Even if you grow it yourself, you have no idea if a cat didn't pee on it ! People go crazy over certaains things but then they forget that fish pee and shit in the same sea they swim in, that most doorknob are full of bacteria and that a mouth has more germs than a vagina.

In the end, you get contamination just by sharing the same air as other people and that how you get most illnesses. Funilly the muffin is likely less problematic than taking public transportation at peak hour.

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[-] LokiWantsToPlay 25 Points 4 months ago

I wanted to tear this post apart, I couldn't do it. It's a decent critique of the paranoid mental state of some here. I just hope you don't pick up food you find lying around in public... If you do though, where do you live? I'll get a trend started of leaving soggy biscuits around for you to find.

[-] tchower 22 Points 4 months ago

A girl with a mental illness can and will fuck your life up if you’re naive enough, or you’re thirsty enough for the pussy, I say this out of personal experience. They’ll be guilt tripping you about “don’t be like the other guys who fucked me and left me” and then if you do anyway, she might get vindictive and call the cops on you or set you up for a jealousy trap or do something totally insane to ruin your life. I’d use caution and be straight forward about your needs, then if she does any crazy shit with you then you can always bring it back to how you were from the very beginning.

[-] xddm2653 10 Points 4 months ago

Then use a fake name and a burner phone when dealing with them. You dont handle a deadly snake without gloves

[-] tchower 6 Points 4 months ago

That only works if they do not screen you on social media ect. which they might or ask about. A burner phone # could work if that’s the only way you deal with her, but they’re instinctually aware that sex is their most critical bargaining tool, so more than likely these types have a web of different jealousy plots and issues awaiting so watch out. ????

[-] xddm2653 5 Points 4 months ago

I dont have social media and I've never been rejected over it.

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[-] IQtheMC 5 Points 4 months ago

Steve Irwin was the first to prove to me that it's a good idea to play with venomous creatures, because as long as you are an expert nothing could possibly go wrong.

[-] GottiPlays 19 Points 4 months ago

This is really bad advice man. Playing with BPD girls will destroy you, there's no "put gloves to protect you" You clearly never had anything to do with one, there's no way to get involved and thinking to control them. THEY control YOU from the first moment your chimp brain thinks "imma fuck this bitch"

Muffins my ass, i almost killed myself
After dealing with one for 8 years. Completely fucked my head to the point I'm scared to open up to other girls again

I came across this sub for help by chance many months ago, found a way out of my misery since then, because in the sidebar there are even guided checklists that teaches how to recognize and AVOID these bitches Not how to play with fire.

My 2 cents

[-] Churn 11 Points 4 months ago

This. Like they say in war, “No plan survives contact with the enemy,”.

You guys think you have a BPD under control until she hurts herself and calls the police to get you arrested. Then she shows up at your bosses house at night with some version of mixed truths and complete bullshit to ruin your career. Then she tracks down your grandmother on Facebook and makes a secret lunch date to plan your wedding. Meanwhile she is telling all your friends that you beat her up because she didn’t feel clean enough for sex one night. When you refuse to meet up with her during all this (she has a restraining order against you), she calls your grandmother and says she’s going to kill herself because you are having an affair and the wedding is off.

When you’re freaked out that first she is trying to ruin your life and then expects you to marry her? And why/how does it make any sense to give you an arrest record and lose your job and then somehow start a life together?!

At some point when you realize you can’t make any sense of her motives, you’ll wonder how you ever thought you could control this type of person.

Listen to the men who have been through this war and returned. You don’t want any part of BPD women. Do not listen to warrior wannabes who play paintball but have never been shot at or had mortars dropped on them.

[-] ahg1008 3 Points 4 months ago

Exactly. It's like these women have mastery over fucking guys up. They've been doing it since they were kids. Atleast the one I was engaged to did. Just run nigga..

[-] Andgelyo 17 Points 4 months ago

Retarded example but I get the message your saying lmao

[-] 0io- 37 Points 4 months ago

I just see so many guys getting all freaked out wondering what they did wrong because the muffin was there yesterday and now it's gone. Why won't it come back to me? Who's eating my muffin when I'm not here? It's amazing how strong the one-itis can be for a lot of dudes.

[-] Flying_Wingback 22 Points 4 months ago

I personally enjoyed the example

[-] 4matting 11 Points 4 months ago

This is bad advice for general demographic of the people here. Most here have little to no experience with women, and will get destroyed by those "free muffins".

[-] postreformedpua 8 Points 4 months ago

Yeah dude why not play with that mine sitting in that open field. It probably wont go off if you poke it with a stick and poking things with sticks is fun!

Spoken like a guy that hasn't experienced a real BPD. BPD doesn't mean 'you know she's a bad girl' it means she pretends to be exactly what you want her to be, it means her ability to manipulate knows no bounds. I could go on but please take one for the team and jump on the next mine you see.

[-] Nicolas0631 2 Points 4 months ago

As described, it look like there no way for you to guess so what you plan ?

The OP plan for me is quite ok. Assume the worst, enjoy what you can and stay protected.

[-] SuspiciousBed 6 Points 4 months ago

I hate when you eat the muffins and they actually give you food poisoning

[-] SneakyThrowawaySnek 6 Points 4 months ago

Meh, that's what penicillin is for.

Also, pro-tip: make jokes about with your pharmacy staff. They already know what you've got because specific doses and courses of drugs for STDs are easy to identify.

I can't begin to tell you how many guys with genital herpes flirt with the little technician girls thinking the techs don't know why they're there.

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[-] MatrixofLe3adership 5 Points 4 months ago

Is this place completely autistic now? If more of us lazy fucks would read the sidebar, then GTFO, we wouldn't need mermaids, masturbating hobos, and muffins to understand something without the latest dumbshit metaphor or relatable example.

[-] SneakyThrowawaySnek 4 Points 4 months ago

Where the fuck are my muffins? The title promised me free muffins. I'm getting my pitch fork.

[-] Auxfite 4 Points 4 months ago

Cool example but not worth it. My bpd ex called the cops on me twice. Hit me multiplie times. Rage and anger everyday. Said I sexually assaulted her. All that for free muffins? Lol

[-] redpillcad 4 Points 4 months ago

Bad girls dont need to be avoided unless your an MRA virgin.

If you are game aware and have self generated your own validation than bad girls attempts to seduce you will be cute

[-] five-acorn 3 Points 4 months ago

Your post:

The Good: Irreverence and realizing other people can frequently be nuts, and you can't control their behavior (anyone's but your own), and goose fraba, akuna mattata, bitches be crazy, etc. Enjoy the ride of life.

The bad: The idea that only "sluts" are like this, and your "Disney Princess Awaits." BZZZZZ! WRONG! Thanks for playing! Virgins/ sexually repressed woman (especially if they are virgins past age 21) are frequently MASSIVELY fucked in the head, and have their own problems. If you're so low self-esteem you only think a woman who has never tasted other dick (thusly, yours is best and since you're her only, she'll think your penis is magical) --- you're in for a surprise. She likely won't love you, just be obsessed with you because you're her first, like any clingy virgin is. If a slut likes you, among 12 men, you know you have a strong connection. But a Virgin would basically fall in "wuv" with the first dick she saw anyway. And as soon as she gets a whiff of a second dick (maybe big black dick) --- she'll have very little defense or street smarts, and off she'll go, your Mrs. Disney, fucking strange dick.

So yeah. I like your post, but the idea is --- life is pain, all girls are fickle, do your own life, enjoy the ride. And while girls like sex, not every girl you meet is "Fresh off the whore house" -- like damn that's fucked up. Relax and don't be so negative. People are crazy. Wake the fuck up and strengthen up your ego. THAT'S the real challenge in life. To toughen up & drop the ego. Hard to do that without experiencing a shit load of pain and wisdom though.

[-] EPArt 3 Points 4 months ago

You know those bad stories that sometimes appear on here and other places or for example that time this chick threw acid over her ex which he later died from? This post is why shit like this happens. May even be like the 80/20 rule 80% will get burned although maybe its a good thing if more guys risk their lives for some crazy head from a bad bitch who rides and grinds you like shes having a dbz battle. That way they are easier to avoid.

" Imagine that one day you walk out of your dorm room and there's a tray of muffins someone left in the common room, and there's one muffin left." What am i vermin/pest? if its that good why is no one offering it to anyone? Usually there's a good reason people leave things like that out specially if its a sentient muffin that drains you of your life force before moving on the next next target. Literally a venus fly trap with a sweet scent let me stick my dick in it. There was a fly here but its gone now...your dick is the fly. Lastly people want to call it paranoia but some laws/rules keep the people who follow them alive because although fun the risk:reward ratio was skewed to high in the risk.

[-] 0io- 2 Points 4 months ago

The problem is guys who can't figure out how to hit it and quit it, and don't bail when they see the signs that a girl is crazy... If you take a bite of something and it's gone off, don't eat the rest of it. Instead they try to fix the "perfect girl" they found and try to stay in a relationship. Enjoy it and move on. I've never heard of a crazy girl throwing acid on Chad who had a one night stand with her and never gave his phone number. That's not how the world works.

[-] napsterpepper 3 Points 4 months ago

Another shit post, wtf is this, not content nothing. please dont post shit here

[-] frameTrumpsShitTests 2 Points 4 months ago

Thanks for the metaphors!

Your frame eases my mind. Sometimes I go crazy analyzing all those hamster speed runs and building defenses against potential attacks. In the end, all things won't last, and it especially doesn't make sense to build on something as fickle as a woman.

[-] HeadingRed 2 Points 4 months ago

What if I just want to eat the muffin top and leave the rest alone?

[-] moltenw 1 Point 4 months ago

Why would you want to eat muffins? They have a lot of sugar! Bleh

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[-] Managicall 1 Point 4 months ago

creatures like poisonous snakes and snapping turtles and sharks

So hit them with a shovel? Back to basics with those caveman strategies. :)

[-] z2a1-9 1 Point 4 months ago

Cool perspective! Muffins it is, made me chuckle!

[-] crespo_modesto 1 Point 4 months ago

On the other hand, you could be the baker, why wait for the muffin, when you can make the muffin? human clones

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[-] Gruss_p -2 Point 4 months ago

I don't like the metaphor because Alpha man shouldn't eat sweets. It's just empty calories for unmotivated losers and women. Gay men also looove cakes and muffins. Enjoy fatty and greasy burger instead.

[-] SneakyThrowawaySnek 4 Points 4 months ago

Dude, fuck off with this gatekeeping bullshit. I love me some cake. Liking sweets has nothing to do with anything, as long as you aren't 400 lbs and bitching about it.

[-] Gruss_p 3 Points 4 months ago

Sure but it's more about what sweets represent. It's literary like food analogy of instant gratification. By eating sweets you are getting weaker and becoming less masculine over time. But whatever dude, it's just a cake, enjoy it. And later, you can go to shop some new handbag with your female friend!

[-] SneakyThrowawaySnek 7 Points 4 months ago

It's not a handbag, it's a carry-all

[-] ahg1008 1 Point 4 months ago

Yup. Infact you wanna shit test a bitch for instant gratification whorishness ? Watch her n her deserts . Will tell you lots.