While pondering the Sexual Marketplace using economic metaphors, I had an interesting insight that many relationship problems have "credit" in common, and there's a simple way to avoid many of the problems men face.
Pitfalls like Briffault's law and Covert Contracts can be avoided by engaging the sexual marketplace on a cash basis.
Don't offer your prospects easy relationship credit. Remember the fundamental SMP transaction: Men are the gatekeepers of commitment, women are the gatekeepers of sex. Parse out your commitment of time, money, etc in exchange for tokens of affection already received, like you're paying cash for services already rendered. Of course, you'll usually need to inject some seed capital at certain points of a transaction, from initiating contact, touching etc, to time/money in an LTR. You want to make sure not to invest so much at any point that you've built up a "debt" you're not willing to walk away from without regret. A man offering way too much upfront commitment in exchange for not enough affection/sex is not only a poor SMP negotiator, supplicating like this makes him downright unattractive even to low-value women.
(ETA after comments) To clarify, cash is a metaphor for whatever value you provide in exchange for her sex; not necessarily literally paying cash for sex. The principle applies whether you give back "nothing" but access to your Alphaness or a bag of skittles, all the way to the opposite extreme of maintaining a mistress. The point is to make sure whatever you give is present-oriented (cash basis) as opposed to past or future-oriented (relationship "credit.")
In the short term, keep a balance of IOIs, touches, etc. If you touch her a few times and there's no touching back, don't keep investing in a losing game, she's not buying what you're peddling so switch up your presentation or move on to another prospect. Once you've established some push-pull, the amount of her touching, kissing etc should settle into a pattern of 3 from her to 2 from you; this is the Golden Ratio of flirting.
In the long term there can be some credit latitude scaled to the amount of time you've been together and how well she's maintaining her share of relationship maintenance over time. As a man, though, you can NEVER relax your vigilance toward keeping the relationship balanced. Deadbedrooms and AskMRP are full of examples of men who became complacent once settled in a LTR or marriage, to the point of starfish sex or none at all becoming the norm. This is NEVER cured by the man putting more benefits on the table in hopes of future improvement of her relationship performance. The correct move is to withdraw your commitment of resources and attention, and to only restore it in exchange for improvements after the fact. This is like declaring relationship bankruptcy when her credit is maxed out, so she can't borrow any more and must live within her (your) relationship means by paying cash as she goes forward. In finance and love, it can be amazing how reasonable a person can become when they suddenly have to behave responsibly by paying as they go.
Covert contracts and the sunk costs fallacy depend upon your anticipation of deferred rewards from her in exchange for current performance by you. Both of these amount to offering "relationship credit" that never becomes redeemable on favorable terms for you if at all. The book [No More Mr. Nice Guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Mr._Nice_Guy_(book) is a good resource if you have a problem with these.
Sunk costs are an easy trap for men to fall into after overinvesting in the past and expecting rewards in the present, for example staying with a woman who has become frigid, selfish and bitchy, because of all the time and effort you've invested into the relationship. The correct way to manage this is to forget the prior "sunk" costs and only consider the future costs needed to maintain the relationship against benefits received, in deciding how much more to invest or cut losses.
Covert contracts arise from overinvesting in the present expecting rewards in the future. For example, thinking "She'll (behave better/love me more/go back to the Rockstar sex we used to know) if I just (spend more time, money, attention) on her.
Aligning your expectations on a cash basis (Present commitment from you for present affection/sex from her) systemically prevents these traps from becoming possible by eliminating the root cause: unearned and unjustified relationship credit.
According to Briffault's Law, any past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association from the female. Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit.
In practice, this means that overinvesting time, attention, gifts, validation etc in a woman because you HOPE she will give you affection and sex in the future is a very poor bet. It's an easy pattern for well-meaning men to fall into, for we are socialized to care for women. However, TRP knows this leads to blue balls and empty wallets, and the emergence of the dinner whore, women who troll dating sites just to get fancy dinners for free on first dates they have no intention of even kissing. She doesn't have a relationship credit counter adding points for your future; only offer benefits or rewards after she has delivered what you want.
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Avoid oneitis for those who don't reciprocate by not offering any commitment or exclusivity to a woman UNTIL she has delivered sufficient affection/sex to pay you for the consideration. Remember, you are the prize.
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Avoid friendzoning that never matures into a relationship (a form of covert contract) by vigilantly observing the results of push-pull. Push some IOIs and affection into the relationship then watch; if she doesn't pull for more by giving it back, reduce investment and place it in another woman. If she doesn't respond to the withdrawal by trying to pull you back, well, there's your answer. Most of them never pull at all; you're looking for the ones who do.
- Avoid expensive dates that lead to nothing by only offering only a simple, free or cheap first meeting upfront; Jamba Juice and the Civic Fountain work well for me. Before we finish our juice she's giving me IOIs and touches; by 1-2 hours there's been enough cuddling and kissing that "Hey, let's go to lunch/dinner now!" comes naturally and "prepaid." Scheduling first meetings at 10-11am and 4-5pm helps facilitate this. Schedule both timeslots with different women when screening new prospects.
Briffault's law can be beaten by offering your "relationship benefits" in exchange for tokens of her affection that she has ALREADY given you.
Delivering your rewards on credit flies in the face of what is known about motivation and behavioral change.
Nobody places a high value upon that which comes easily; conversely, even an insignificant or token investment can magnify the perceived value. Experiments and studies consistently show people are more satisfied with, and more posessive of the same thing, if there is some cost involved, as opposed to it being "free."
Operant Conditioning depends upon the feedback (payment or punishment) being delivered after the target behavior. This operates on a primitive level, whether it is a couple establishing boundaries, or teaching a child to behave, or teaching a chicken to play a toy piano. Timely rewards strongly reinforce behavior. Rewards delivered regardless of behavior/performance result in extinction of desired behaviors, and emergence of undesired results like complacency/demotivation, disobedience, and undesired/unexpected behaviors. Wives seldom start out as demanding shrews, and bedrooms don't start out dead; these are the culmination of many failed transactions/tests. With a mindset of paying cash as you go, consistently holding your partner to expectations before delivering rewards, a relationship has a chance of improving over time, or at least not devolving into the shitter, one unjustified concession at a time.
Cautions and caveats
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Application of this principle is subtle and flexible, not a hard, obvious tit-for-tat. Women are better than you at spotting behavioral patterns, especially changes, so don't be Captain Obvious Doofus about it.
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Reinforcement is most effective in actions, not words. Explain less, do consistently. Acta, non verba.
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Remember the power of the intermittent reinforcement schedule as opposed to fixed rewards for fixed actions.
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This is not a recommendation to reward less; the principle applies whether you are naturally parsimonious and frugal, or generous and lavish toward a given significant other. The important part is if and when to deliver the reward; the how much is flexible according to your personal style.
- Make certain your own negotiated obligations are delivered in a timely manner; neither a relationship credit lender nor borrower be. Disregard the moralistic reasons if you wish; I've found this a highly practical modus operandi.
Engage the sexual marketplace on a cash basis, and you'll avoid many of the pitfalls of relationships, from Briffault's Law, to Oneitis and Covert Contracts.
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Women don't give men relationship credit for the future, so don't offer it to them either.
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Exchange value for value in the present.
- Give your time and commitment on credit only at your careful discretion, and never more than you're willing to lose or walk away from.
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mrust 8y ago
Great post and very timely for me.
Covert contracts can apply any time where you have expectations about outcome, which is why outcome independence (and abundance mentality) is so important.
I've had two incidents this week where I had an idea of what would happen with a girl based on my own behavior. With the first one, I was thinking "This girl is into me, if I can get her back to my place we will have sex." Nope, didn't happen. As someone else advised me: too much pull, not enough push. I should have focused on maintaining frame, having her to chase me, and being relaxed. Instead, I tried to escalate to sex too early and things got awkward.
In the other incident, I heard back from a plate that I had soft-nexted a few weeks ago. She was wondering if I wanted to spend some time with her this weekend, and suggested an activity. I made the mistake of agreeing to meet up with her for a day activity. This time, I caught myself and cancelled. I realized I had entered a covert contract - I just had to ask myself - "Would I do this if sex was definitely off the table?" I should have originally countered with an offer to watch a movie at my place, but hindsight is 20/20.
Entropy-7 8y ago
Sunk costs are related to the "Gambler's Fallacy". The latter is the mistaken idea that after a string of bad luck the universe somehow owes you something. If you have been chasing after a girl and dropping coin on her, if she hasn't put out on the third date then odds are she never will. Cut it loose, put her on the backburner, move on.
Entropy-7 8y ago
I think there is merit in the "cash basis" mentality. While the exchange of resources for sex or affection will never be completely contemporaneous, it is something you should focus on.
Perhaps the most honest girl I dated I met online. She is a fashion model and says right in her profile something like "generous men only, cheap guys can FOAD".
First date I bought her a dress (a slinky thing that only set me back 20 bucks) and third date was her birthday so I gave her a gold necklace (about $100 or so). . .and then she jumped all over my cock like a trooper.
It was a judgment call, but it worked out.
Contrast that with my present GF who pestered me to take a vacation in Thailand. I didn't want to go to Thailand but I did it just to make her happy. So $4000 later, did it make her happy? Of course not! I mean, we had some fun times there but it wasn't value for money and she is back to being her moody self.
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MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 8y ago
You're right; I should have put something like this at the top:
TL;DR Pitfalls like Briffault's law and Covert Contracts can be avoided by engaging the sexual marketplace on a cash basis.
Eugenics2015 8y ago
Its hard to believe that most men have to be taught stuff like this.
juliusstreicher 8y ago
The sad thing is, they don't. They have to be un-taught the Disney shit that was forced upon them.
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don't be a commitment whore. Realize you're no different than the easy slut that gives it up right away. Sure, they'll take full advantage of it, but you best believe you don't get what you want because of it.
Sluts get pump n dumped, relationship whores get blueballed. Own your shit and realize you get exactly what you advertised
redwithahintofred 8y ago
Very insightful post!
Relating relationships in economic terms makes it much easier for me to understand.
When I read "don't ruin your credit" it made me realise 2 years ago I filed for bankruptcy! Over-investment really can destroy you, this post is quite an important lifesaver to those who may be as reckless with their credit as I was back then.
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Rynolz 8y ago
Dude... I'm in the middle of this as I write this because I'm a book/knowledge slut, and I LOVE reading philosophy. I feel like this is pretty much serious loser talk though, as I read it. I know you didn't write it, so this isn't personal.. the dude who wrote it seems very loser mindset. I have come to the conclusion that our country and society as a whole is completely fucked because people refuse to educate themselves about it, or are living as a terminal cancer patient knowing its all fucked and trying to make the best of it. I see it for what it is. The whole world has always been controlled and manipulated by TPTB (powers that be/ruling class). You get to cut up a slice of your own pie, and many are scared to grab the knife. SO fuck TPTB and go do your own shit. Play a guitar, be a homeless hippie, fuck a bunch of stupid sluts, take acid and meditate, make money ripping people off for baseball cards, whatever.. You get a chance to live and enjoy it. Go be George Washington if you want, but you'll be saving a world full of fucking idiots. There isn't any hope for the future, but you have at least 15-20 years to do whatever the hell you can. Enjoy it. It's all fucked for sure, and has been since probably Egypt. Doesn't mean we don't have a chance to get lucky and live the good life though. We're all here to overcome what life has dealt us and play this poker game even better. GET SOME
TheEnglishman28 8y ago
I really like the idea of schedule as a resource, as in scheduling a certain time so she isn't expecting you to give her food on your dime since it isn't the traditional mealtime.
Plus that throws her for a loop since she now has to invest something of herself in order for you to do anything for her.
I always was a fan of asymmetrical actions, and this is certainly a simple, yet effective method in that regard.
Rynolz 8y ago
Your boy actually nailed it w/ the post... I'm just troubled by how much words are being used to nail it home... It's simpler than us analytical types make it out to be. This bitch you are thinking of AINT SHIT. that about it. There's about fifteen thousand more with the same qualifications. So chat one up. Definitely #1 rule is: Don't CHASE, em REPLACE em. Ken might say purse first. But honestly this shit we're running isn't a money game. That's where squares get fuckd up/mixed up with pimping. Let her buy YOU a drink, sure. If she won't she isn't DTF. Also, the point made about not pursuing is 122% on point.
However w/ the average square hoe (any ho) it's just about not giving a fuck. That's a pretty hard thing to do if you haven't started to invest in yourself. I love the RAW/REAL talk.. but fuck my dude... The academic breakdown ruins the essence of the interaction. These girls are not academic about what they like or don't. You can't commit a goddamn thing. If they don't commit after you approach and escalate then do it again w/ another prospect. You need to be the owner of the team. You're working on the bullpen, find some talent and give them a shot. Most won't make it, some will be great closers (booty calls) others will be amazing starters (bottom bitch/GF potential) but seriously the game has changed since 1960.
That's the whole reason we're talking about this shit. I just blew it w/ a 9/10 because I showed investment (LTR potential)... you can never do that early on. That's EXACTLY why the girls you don't like will straight stalk you at work but the ones you like aren't answering. You're operating in 2016 post feminist AmeriKa, don't even think that John Wayne shit will work EVER. I love you guys for being open and thinking, but goddamn we're killing ourselves breaking this shit down to the word for word. Basically this is the frame "I rock shit, you want someone who does that, come see me." Anything else is killing yourself. And I'm terribly sorry (because you all are telling the truth) but all this shit is basically "analysis paralysis" .
I would say don't ever get married but you may find the right situation, but that should NEVER be your goal. Because that puts you on the hunt. If you're gonna hunt these bitches do it like turkey or deer, be sneaky, don't let em know what's next. Every single happily (until they start talking) married dude I know doesn't REALLY give a fuck about his wife and he knows he can do better, they ALL settled. The girl knows her value, they always date up. Most of my married friends/relatives could do better but they are BP as fuck. That's how they control the interaction (subconscious domination). Most of us are smarter than to be duped into that, which is half the problem to be honest. Always be looking for the next big un! Also I must add that you can't catch anything if you don't go fishing! Go fishing sure, but not expecting to set a world record, just be happy if you caught a fish and even if you don't, fishing should be FUN!!! Or if you can't bring yourself to have fun at least enjoy the meditative state that comes from that mindset. Song for the day: Pimp C "Rock 4 Rock"...
P.S. don't sell drugs to get women, game is deeper than that. Been there done that, my boy caught two class b felonies (because he was sloppy and talked a lot). You need money to be on top for sure, but the ways to do that right are VERY legal. Run some "white man" game and get your money right, bitches love that so much it ain't funny, but STILL don't fold when they come crawling for baby batter. (All us white nerdy dudes got this part in the back pocket for real) Stock trading, Real estate, Loans, etc.... there's hella money out there to get if you live in the US, so get that shit first and foremost, just work on your stable of bitches at the same time. Once you have the money and the status, if your game is tight (from working on it!), you will have your pick of the litter. I'm working on the money part as we speak.
TheRedStoic 8y ago
Nicely done. I attempted this in my value management post, though it went far over the heads of most. (my fault, too dense).
I definitely use your/the/my reward system.
Blowjob? Some attention.
Great sex? Maybe a night together.
Something new and raunchy? A plush, maybe some chocolate.
Threesome? Dinner.
Always after the fact, never implied. But they get the message.
In contrast any bitching/disrespect is a quick way out the door/no contact. They're already getting tons of social proof just being with me.
FrameWalker 8y ago
Brilliant.
Excellent point
FeeFeeFeaster 8y ago
Thanks for covering this because this is related to Gambler's Fallacy. If you've put in too much time with a girl before reading this post, for fuck's sake do not keep hitting on that slot machine (pun intended) thinking that it's "just gotta" pay off in the next couple pulls of that lever. Learn from this post and move on.
BradLightningRooster 8y ago
And don't be upset when the very next guy rolls the jackpot on his first pull. That happened to me all the time in highschool and it crushed me then. Now I realize that it's her loss, not mine.
bsutansalt 8y ago
Excellent writeup. It definitely gave me some food for thought and some insights I can apply immediately to the women I'm seeing.
RedPillDad 8y ago
Glad to see this gem post got stickied. Sometimes, for lack of outrage bait, solid info like this gets lost in the mix.
Physio_Tool 8y ago
absolutely, I would prefer if we get more senior users like /u/bsutansalt stickying more posts be ause the overwhelming amount of people in the anger phase upvoting the rage-inducing topics (hating women for actjng in their nature) allows for wise posts like this one ti get pushed down to the bottom. This kind of intelligent post is lost on newbies
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The post is gold just for the reminder that covert contracts do not work and are a red flag to women that one has low SMV.
nice guys are not so nice
Women know this fact viscerally at the DNA level. Make her qualify herself to you
Elodrian 8y ago
1.6180 pops up so frequently in nature that 3/2 is probably just a poor approximation thereof.
redpill_kurious 8y ago
It pops up in nature but it's not magic, if there's no reason for it to exist that can be found or deduced in the system we shouldn't expect it be. /party pooper
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Applying an economic context to the SMP makes the SMP a LOT like the process of selecting the best vendor for your manufacturing business.
Excellent write-up.
sir_wankalot_here 8y ago
This is the part most people even in TRP are in denial about. It's all economics.
Indirectly you are. If your time is worth $X per an hour and you have to spend Y hours it is costing you X * Y. This is ultimately the fact that most guys are in denial about.
Most really rich guys have mistresses which they pay money to. The reason in my opinion is so they don't waste time and there's no BS.
garlicextract 8y ago
Well, animals are essentially manufacturers. Animals live to reproduce and humans are animals.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 8y ago
Thank you.
Also like maintaining vendors, the presence of competition raises the bar of performance for both parties. A state of abundance mentality, whether in business or romance, will make you less likely to accept poor performance out of a misguided sense of loyalty.
Broad experience with "what's out there" also allows you to appreciate the truly GOOD vendors/relationships when you find them.
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An addendum.
Credit risk must also be assumed when evaluating potential plates. If she's prone to emotional instability, that's like having a low FICO score. If she's shopping for a beta and you're her mark there will also be customer risk indicators like questions about income, avoidance or mocking of sexual topics, and so on. The "sex account" return on a high risk customer like that is low versus investment and game required to maintain the account.
Then there's the back end. Sooner or later the plates age out into "relationship charge off". Whether it's because she's pushing for commitment or she's into dangerous habits that threaten your safety and / or sanity after a relationship is realized, you gotta end the association and move on to other clients.
Businesses will have no qualms closing adverse risk portfolios when necessary. It's no different with women. If she's a Sexual Credit Hazard, charge that broad off and move on with equal efficiency. The risk criteria is up to each man to decide.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 8y ago
Excellent points; we could do these economic/sexual marketplace comparisons all day.
I understood these economic principles as a young AFC blue pill man, yet refused to apply them to the sexual marketplace to my obvious disadvantage; all over the belief that women and relationships don't work like thaaaaaat! Even if I had been an economics major, I would have blinded myself to the obvious comparisons.
Now in my late 40s, experience says: Women and relationships DO work like that!
Thotwrecker 8y ago
One of the standout posts, truly. I think many guys do not realize it's not just about becoming high SMV, it's about using your SMV intelligently to make good deals - and walk away from bad deals. The fundamental idea at play is that the lower value party "gives up the goods" first - if you're a lower value man dating a higher value woman (assuming your in a close enough ballpark to be dating), she's certainly going to shoot for dates, commiment, financial buy-in on your part BEFORE giving up the goods. You'll be expected to pay up for the possibility of sex down the road - and once you've paid up, why does she need to?
You cannot pay up first. Get the pussy, then decide if you want to invest in it, 9 times out of 10 the answer will be no. If you're not able to get pussy without giving her commitment, it means you're not high value enough for her or your game sucks. In that case, it's ultimately better for you to not get that girl, because if you have to get her through commitment and credit and beta courtship strategies, she will ultimately waste a lot of your time, mental energy, and money.
Better to not get the girl than to get her through beta means. And like OP said, if a problem is created through giving her too much comfort and security, STOP TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH GIVING MORE COMFORT AND SECURITY. This is so common, even amongst guys who are fairly naturally aware of RP dynamics. They are with a girl who's being flighty and getting driven away by their slight clingeyness, so they double down and go full cling. Reassuring her, making her know that he likes her, offering more time, etc.
Guys in deadbedrooms? They double down on that which created the problem. Catering to their wife's schedule, begging her for more effort, going to counseling, taking her out to more supplicative dates to "win" her sexual credit. The same shit that caused the damn problem in the first place.
It's like trying to solve debt by borrowing more money. Men like to get in deeper holes with women for the same reason they get in deep holes with gambling. They keep thinking just a little more, just a little more holding out and hoping, staying the course, etc, that will deliver me the results. I just have to be more tenacious, more strong-willed, more resilient. These men are misapplying the natural masculine stubbornness and determination; instead of using it to chart a new course, they double down and believe that they will prevail in the end because they are in the moral right.
RetiredTimeHo 8y ago
Fucking deep. Hard to swallow but ultimately true.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 8y ago
Excellent point. One of the posts in my writing queue addresses the frequent question of "2X yo virgin here, should I date a lower SMV woman?" Given that women's social skills start developing earlier, a late blooming man entering the SMP with no experience faces stiff competition from more experienced players, against higher SMV women who have accumulated experience and options. For a beginner, the level of game required can be demoralizing, and the trap of trying to "buy-in" will likely be exploited into making him a beta orbiter. Think of the SMV scale as a ladder; it's hard to jump right to the top rung, but once you're ON it, climbing becomes easier and you learn as you go.
So important! My younger days were a textbook case of having decent natural SMV, but shitty game. I'd ignore IOIs from interested women out of misguided "faithfulness" to my oneitis who was perfectly happy to let me orbit at a distance. As the man in the equation, you must proactively negotiate for what you want, which means cutting out nonperforming prospects sooner than later.
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redpillbanana 8y ago
I loved this submission when I read it and I'm glad to see that it was stickied. I was going to write a similar submission but this one is 10x better than what I was going to write.
I was going to make an analogy along the lines of: imagine you have a vendor (Dr. B. Law) who constantly forgets that you gave him cash and in fact forgets just a few minutes after you hand it over. How would you deal with him? You would likely either demand receipts or demand that he provide his services upfront. Now, take this analogy and apply it to women. Since it is unacceptable to accept receipts (e.g. hey, I helped you find a great apartment so give me a receipt that I can exchange for sexy time later), you're only left with the option of demanding services upfront or no deal.
Your strategy of limiting initial investment is key. One can take an analogy from game theory where the "tit-for-tat" strategy is considered one of the best strategies in the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma (though it was dethroned a few years back). (Dating is not necessarily a Prisoner's Dilemma but maybe it is not so different.) The tit-for-tat strategy specifies that the player should cooperate at first and then mirror the opponent's reaction for later moves. Using a tit-for-tat strategy in dating basically means that you make an initial investment assuming she will cooperate and then mirror her subsequent cooperation or lack of it. By starting small with your investment, you limit your loss if she doesn't cooperate, and you gradually increase your investment in subsequent iterations.
Given all this, it's important to follow OP's caveat:
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Sidenote: from reading the link, it doesn't seem to me that tit-for-tat was dethroned.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 8y ago
I like the angles from which you examine the issue; this can still be developed into a great standalone post. The vendor or contractor who takes the deposit and never delivers his part of the deal.
I've thought of marriage in terms of the iterated prisoner's dilemma. In fact, the Iterated Husband's Dilemma sounds like a good post topic, or for that matter, awesome band name.
redpillbanana 8y ago
Thanks, maybe I'll make that standalone submission.
I don't think that many people, even the ones who read TRP, realize (as you did) how fundamental Briffault's law is and the implications/applications that it has on sexual relationships. I certainly didn't; when I first read it, I just thought, "Ha ha, that's so true." Now I know that men who grok it should be changing their entire approach to interacting with women.
It's a bit like Einstein's theory of relativity. The postulates are very simple (e.g. speed of light is the same in all reference frames) but the implications/applications are enormous (e.g. causality, time dialation, GPS, fusion energy, nuclear bomb).
SureImShore 8y ago
Quick definition of terms on cash basis vs. accrual basis:
Cash Basis: Revenues are reported on the income statement in the period in which the cash is received from customers. Expenses are reported on the income statement when the cash is paid out.
emptyvisionaries 8y ago
Audit I'm saying, is it's accrual world.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 8y ago
Thanks for the expert clarification.
TIL that I want to accrue women for abundance mentality, but gain and maintain their interest on a cash basis.
Toxicbutt 8y ago
Nice post. Alot of women unfortunately these days expect an unreasonable amount of investment right out the gate. So behave like you do in real life, watch out for scammers and don't ruin your credit.
UrsusG 8y ago
You might want to rephrase that, because it sounds like 'paying money to get sex', which is fine in and of itself, but misleading in your context.
Perhaps 'currency' would have been a better word?
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 8y ago
I see what you mean, and "paying cash for sex" isn't particularly Red Pill behavior. It's meant as a metaphor for whatever value you provide to a woman in exchange for sex and affection.
The principle applies whether you give her "nothing" but access to your oh-so-Alpha cock or a bag of skittles, to the far extreme of maintaining a mistress. "Cash basis " might be a better metaphor here; it's meant to contrast with relationship "credit" to make sure whatever you're offering is present-oriented (cash) not past or future-oriented (credit.)
The opening paragraphs are a bit ambiguous about this, so I'll edit to clarify; thanks for the feedback.
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[deleted] 8y ago
would "liquid assets" help?
the obvious inherent joke is not lost on me.
0kool74 8y ago
"liquid assets" man TRP is on humor mode today. first thundercock island and now this.
LeftShark86 8y ago
Great post.