There is plenty to discuss about the Kavanaugh fiasco, but one aspect that has struck me as particularly cruel is the backlash against his emotional display. The mainstream press has dignified this grotesque evisceration by publishing the criticism, much of it written by women. I won't link to any examples, but anyone can find them pretty easily.
In short, the disgust over Kavanaugh's tears provides a prime example of a simple truth: women are not only incapable of understanding male vulnerability, but instinctively react with loathing when they do encounter it.
Here’s the painful pattern that emerged from my research with men: We ask them to be vulnerable, we beg them to let us in, and we plead with them to tell us when they’re afraid, but the truth is that most women can’t stomach it. In those moments when real vulnerability happens in men, most of us recoil with fear and that fear manifests as everything from disappointment to disgust. -Brene Brown
Even Saturday Night Live just now mocked Kavanaugh for shedding tears over his calendars. From a feminine perspective, this makes no sense whatsoever...a woman got sexually assaulted and you are crying over calendars?
The calendar, of course, was merely incidental. Kavanaugh choked up at the thought the person who started the tradition - his father, the primary model of masculinity in his life. He cried at memories of camaraderie with his friends - brotherhood, duty. The all too familiar feeling of humiliation, rage, disappointment, sadness, and injustice all rolled into one as his career - the major source of masculine purpose - gets dragged through the mud in front of the whole country.
I recall reading on this sub once that when a woman watches Saving Private Ryan, she might as well be looking at static. She fundamentally lacks the ability to understand a man's emotional core.
The strong, silent man is a masculine archetype for a reason.
We tell boys not to cry for a reason.
Insults such as "pussy" are there for a reason.
Never cry in front of a woman, except when your parents die.
AbysswalkerGuts 5y ago
Holy shit the Saving Private Ryan part hit HOME HARD. I remember we had to look at that movie in middle school, all the girls were just uninterested/looking at their phones. I couldn't understand. Such a great movie about a big historical change, showing brave young men sacrificing themselves. They.Just.Didn't.Care
Starfuckingman 5y ago
While I agree with this post, its also fair to say that I am personally aware of enough women at my social circles who sympathized with kavanaugh and called shit on a lot of other women. It made me a little bit happier to be honest that its not completely hopeless. Also, other women on facebook lives (when the hearing was happening) posted their support and got plenty of upvotes just as much as other women (though fewer) who made fun of it.
KrakaLakak 5y ago
The fact that someone can pull a "rape" case on you 35 years later with no previous reports and you are the one that needs to prove your innocence is mind boggling to me. The fact that this is still an ongoing case is all i wanna know about America.
That's also probably the reason this sub got quarantined. Retarded case.
garythegoatsghost 5y ago
It literally got quarantined during Kavanaugh's testimony
blr1998 5y ago
you are innocent until proven guilty. i don’t give a fuck what people think it can stain your reputation or whatever but a real man knows his rights and uses the legal systems to his advantage... innocent untic proven guilty. if there is any reasonable doubt, there is no crime.
xXxOrcaxXx 5y ago
Honestly, good riddance. The way the woman is treated is exactly the reason why she didn't come forward and she even said so during her testimony. And while going after his tears is a cheap shot, he is the one who completely overreacted. Last but not least, he was given the option of an FBI investigation, and as long as you don't assume that 'innocent until proven guilty' is dead, the FBI would've done the defending for him, if he is indeed innocent.
Apart from that, I suggest strongly to keep politics out of this sub. And Kavanaugh's hearing was a highly politicized event.
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Spoken like a true soyboy limp dick.
Who made you boss around here?
Looking at your post history, you never fucking post here. You are only here to concern troll.
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reluctantly_red 5y ago
Which is why the FBI should have investigated and reported before the hearing.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
Investigate what exactly?
And why? This is STUPID.
Example:
I have evidence that you molested a child when you were 14 years old...but I am not going to tell you where, when, or even who you molested...now prove your innocence you pedophile pervert piece of shit???????
How do you investigate something that is entirely in the mind of the accuser?
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Funny -- we always seem to believe accusations made by boys against priests.
johnnight 5y ago
Sub got quarantined because Democrats' strategists have determined what the big support hubs for Trump are and they are now snuffing them out one by one.
sleepyinbk 5y ago
yeah the MRA/Alt-Right/Trump supporting overlap is overwhelmingly documented. Reddit is totally quarantining y'all. /s
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get real
johnnight 5y ago
Your comment history says you woke up 5 days ago from a year-long hiatus only to concern troll this sub.
So I can disregard and forget everything you say.
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reluctantly_red 5y ago
Sorry but when you're seeking a position of this level your entire life is on the line. Ted Kennedy's behavior disqualified him from the Presidency.
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surfsusa 5y ago
But Ted Kennedy Was exposed from the beginning and was given a pass and allowed to be a Senator and Continue being a Senator when other allegations came forward and also the left called him the Lion of the Senate, (not like in a predator (although he really was)). The Left is so Hypocritical.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
Bill Clinton speaks every year at their National Convention.....so what can you say to people of that ilk.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Kavanaugh will be given the same pass and allowed to continue as a court of appeals judge.
Not_Another_Inch 5y ago
No, he will be the next SC justice because we aren't buying what you're selling anymore. Take it to the bank friend.
RedPillWintergreen 5y ago
No he won't. If he is convicted in the court of public opinion of being a sexual predator his career is effectively over.
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tempolaca 5y ago
Not only 35 years later. Exactly at the time when he's postulating for public office. I mean, how can't anybody see this other than a incredibly obvious political manipulation? really? you waited 35 years and reported exactly now?
Flawless44 5y ago
It definitely is political manipulation. However, having watched the hearings, he was lying. He did it, and he's upset that it has come to bite him in the ass now.
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I wouldn't be shocked if another accusation comes during this week-long FBI investigation; "Another woman has surfaced. I propose we hold off on the nomination until we figure this out...and if we hold it off until after November, I wouldn't complain."
Auvergnat 5y ago
What’s really surprising is that #metoo has been going on for a while now.
The feminist mainstream and social media have been inundating everyone with women “coming out” after their alledged abusers.. and BK’s accusers have been watching it all unfold and said absolutely nothing about the evil man that ruined their lives 40y ago... until oh right when he got nominated for office at a super important position..
This will apply to all future accusations of men running for office. “Why didn’t you say anything in 2018 when it was the hot topic?”
sleepyinbk 5y ago
because they were handling their shit as grown ass women and talking about that sort of shit is pretty, "look at me i am a victim too, let's do interviews and pick apart my life."
not everyone is about that level of scrutiny in their personal life. like rapists and weirdos are all over the place.
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maybe a little unchill to have one on the motherfucking supreme court, eh? that would be fuuuuuuucked. no matter how much they might want to forget terrible shit happening, seeing this crybaby almost getting THAT job? hellllll nah
chadwickofwv 5y ago
After watching Ford's testimony there is no way that I could trust anything she says about any topic. You are delusional if you believe anything she says.
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She said why come forward now is because it's her civic duty to prevent such a person (as Kavanaugh) to have that position.
If he is indeed a gang rapist I'd understand that, but he have been an attorney for a long time and in this gang rapist narrative, raping is something he is doing to this day.
If she truly believes in civic duty, she would have come forward to put this rapist down, decades ago.
techless 5y ago
Sugar Ray Leonard waited 40yrs to reveal he was sexually abused at 15. This really isn't uncommon. You wanna go tell SRL he was a coward for letting that coach off he hook for decades? How long did the Catholic Church get away with it? This shit is very common
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Are we going to ignore the differences between their cases?
Sexual assault awareness is primarily focused on women, as is the support groups.
Growing up it is ingrained in us that rape is a women's issue. This and the above creates a safe environment for women to come forward, while it discourages men.
Society thinks men can't be raped or that it isn't a big deal if they are, this is less true in 2018, but not when he came forward almost a decade ago and especially prior to that.
All of the above makes it difficult for men to come forward but especially for a boxer. I'm sure that locker room environment creates for even higher expectations of toughness than what regular people are faced with. I mean he was doubted "because he is a boxer so he should be able to defend himself"
There is context to why people come forward when they do. I can see why Leo waited so long, I can't see why Ford did. Feel free to agree to disagree tho.
wanderer779 5y ago
People can come forward anytime. But we’re not gonna penalize the guy unless they can prove it. And we’re not gonna sit and wait while they stall till midterms to do so.
If she wants to I suppose she can still go forward with criminal charges after he’s confirmed. But my best guess is she’ll disappear after her political uitility expires.
techless 5y ago
Ya like it's gonna be a fair trial with a Supreme Court justice. Do you also trust the police to investigate themselves?
I'm just saying "why did she wait so long" is an ignorant thing to say and is not an argument for or against her.
DownyGall 5y ago
Think of all the women she allowed him to rape these years since! But no, the shame! The shame!
BewareTheOldMan 5y ago
"If [Christine Ford] truly believes in civic duty, she would have come forward to put this rapist down, decades ago."
This woman and women like her are hugely problematic.
The optics on her "recent" 35-year-old sexual assault accusation are terrible. Even if she's telling the truth, the timing is 30-plus years late. She's looking real bad on this whole thing.
Kavanaugh should have never had a chance at a career in law. The huge takeaway is that women have to report these crimes in a timely manner.
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34381 5y ago
Not to mention, if all of these other allegations are true, Christine Ford is a monster for not coming forward and bringing Kavanaugh to justice before he could rape others. The senators were all falling all over each other to call her 'courageous'. Bullshit. She owes an apology to the other victims for failing to act earlier.
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This is exactly how I feel about successful women of Hollywood only now coming out and crying #metoo regarding Weinstein.
No, I don't feel sorry for you, you made a deal with the devil for your fame.
I feel sorry for the ladies who said "no" to Harvey's wondering hands and then got blacklisted. They are the victims!
The Hollywood rich and famous who now want sympathy are detracting from what the real victims went through.
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sleepyinbk 5y ago
Do you remember every single thing that happened to you 30 years ago when some fucked up shit happened? Maybe not. Who knows, some people are sharp like that. Maybe she just remembers the fucked up shit.
Come on. Get fucking real dudes
wanderer779 5y ago
I agree with this. And I’m fine that she brought it up. But there’s no way to prove it, so Kavanaugh gets confirmed.
Incel9876 5y ago
She couldn't give a date, or place, but what she did claim to remember and to name were four witnesses, all of whom have said they have no idea what she's talking about, with at least one saying she never attended any party where Kavanuagh was present, full stop.
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/blasey-fords-female-classmate-her-last-alleged-witness-denies-ever-attending-party-with-kavanaugh
Turn off the Leftist fakenews/hate/treason/sedition, "dude." Only Right is right, only the Right even believes in the concept of objective facts/truth.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
It's not that she doesn't understand, it's that she doesn't give a fuck.
Male toil, suffering, pain and death means nothing to her.... and in fact is often very useful. Women in the west wouldn't have access to a tenth of the resources they do if men hadn't fought and died for them.
ARUKET 5y ago
I remember when I watched Whiplash with my sister, the unbelievable psychological torment that the protagonist was going through under his teacher, struggling for greatness, that shit was intense. I found it to be a heart pounding movie. On the other hand my sister would laugh whenever the teacher would verbally abuse the protagonist. Zero empathy for male suffering.
Frenchy100 5y ago
Pay attention to Kavanaugh's wife as he cries. She looks at him with tenderness. That is a strong quality woman who supports her husband right there.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
I don't think this is a man\woman thing but one of political persuasion.
But not because any women\men dynamic but because you are trying to put a rational interpretation on the reaction by LEFTIST\PROGRESSIVES and that is never going to work out well.
In the progressives eyes, Kavanaugh was fucked regardless of his reaction...if he cried then it is too be mocked as not real or something silly to thwart any chance that people would have tender feelings for their target\victim, if he didn't cry or show emotion then it is a sign he isn't caring enough to be a judge or is cold\guilty....they are after POWER\WINNING so it doesn't matter how he reacted....it was going to be interpreted as a negative or something to mock depending on the tactic needed.
He couldn't win either way but it wasn't because of female's distaste of crying men, it was because of the Left's quest to destroy their target in any way that they can. Even the SNL skit wasn't aimed at the crying, they needed to redirect any positive feelings from people toward Kavanaugh away from his remembrances of his Dad or fond memories of past friends or times to something that would make him a buffoon or a laughingstock....
Zeparic 5y ago
This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who's swallowed the pill. Men are expected to be the "rock" in the relationship ( it's an indicator of a good mate to women, but in sexual strategy it only matters because it produces tingles.)
Not only that but think about it for a second, this dude is being accused of being a predator and people tend to go with the worst possible outcome. In their minds he's already guilty, assuming he was crying fake tears would be an incredibly disgusting act to swallow.
yumyumgivemesome 5y ago
If you think either of them were being anything close to genuine when displaying their emotions, you are a fucking idiot or so blinded by your political ideology that you are incapable of making a rational assessment. This goes for the Left and for the Right. It's fucking pathetic seeing you both get your panties twisted over this shit. Man the fuck up.
34381 5y ago
When the news media reported he showed 'anger', I thought it would be more accurately described as righteous indignation. I watched the whole hearings and I thought it kind of funny the still frames of their faces the media chose to lead with - Christine's tearful anguish and Kavanaugh's face contorted with rage. A few milliseconds either way would have been entirely different.
Cum_Victor 5y ago
When a man doesn't show emotion, it is toxic masculinity.
When a man shows emotion, they mock him.
Nothing new really.
unquenchable53 5y ago
When a man doesn't show emotion, it's toxic masculinity.
When a man shows emotion, it's fragile masculinity.
Opioidus 5y ago
A man's tears are true, women cry as easily as they laugh, it's meaningless.
RedPill115 5y ago
It's not usually meaningless, it's just the difference between someone who wrecks their only car, vs someone who wrecks their car but they have a warehouse of cars at home.
I see a guy cry once he's depressed the whole year. I see a girl bawl her eyeballs out, a week later she's over it and having a good time.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Even worse they turn the water works on to get what they want. It's ridiculous
We_Are_Legion 5y ago
The first is their ideology talking.
The second is their nature talking.
DownyGall 5y ago
I disagree. A lot of women on the Right understood Kavanaugh and thought it was beautiful his shows of emotion. What this really was about was the Left’s hatred of masculinity.
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LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
I read somewhere that vulnerability is powerful among males -- look at upright posture.
Neck and chest exposed, standing upright, a bigger target. More people see you, but you dont fear any threat so it's okay, because of the confidence developed by virtue of being a man.
It has to be the right kind of vulnerability.
I let myself be vulnerable when I go for the approach and risk a fail. That's the right kind of vulnerability (I guess risk taking)
Zech4riah 5y ago
This can be seen in the animal kingdom as well.
For example Peacocks. The bigger tail and feathers peacock male has, the more interested females are.
One of the two main reasons for attraction is obvious:
The other reason is:
RedPill115 5y ago
I've read that the highest credit scores go to people who have missed a few bills. Not people who have missed a lot of bills, not people who have missed 0 bills either.
Because that is the pattern of people who are financially healthy - that they are not a paranoid-level of concern about not missing a payment. They can afford to get hit with a fee here and there because small charges are just an annoyance to them.
chaseemall 5y ago
I don’t see this as vulnerability, but a kind of untouchability. We all know what is meant by vulnerability, which is to signal weakness. To proudly show your neck is to signal strength, not weakness.
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Simply misdirection, and not only aimed at the male side of the equation.
Eventually, this ideology may convince a generation of women that they actually do want to be with a man who can show his emotions and eliminate his "toxic masculinity."
There are forces in this world that seek to make men and women miserable with one another, probably in order to capitalize on the wealth transfer that occurs via divorce and the payments that follow. When you consider that old statistic that you see thrown around this sub from time to time, that women make around 75% of purchases/purchasing decisions, you suddenly see a very large economic incentive to encourage women to marry men who they will ultimately be unhappy with, resulting in this divorce wealth transfer and the propping up of an economy that would only be a fraction of its size if men made their own decisions with their money.
RedPill115 5y ago
Finally someone else noticing this.
Single women:
That's feminist saying consistently revolve around a theme of "Work is freedom, relationships are oppression".
Turkerthelurker 5y ago
To a lesser extent, the additional spending goes both ways. Men spend money on restaraunts & dating, on video games, it requires both men and women to be employed, to pay for childcare services, etc. If you zoom out, you'll see it also increases the need for cheap housing, so less home ownership and more apartments. Damaged families result in damaged kids, who will likely be in a worse financial situation. At every fucking step of the way, someone is making a quick buck while western society implodes.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Understanding the difference is the red pill. Same with equality. Women want equality in relationships. Their nature doesn't
Starfuckingman 5y ago
Exactly. And you have to play the game with unsaid words, with actions that you don't explain.
ANGRY_ATHEIST 5y ago
Really, the first is just an indirect result of their nature, aka the hamster. When you break down the term "toxic masculinity", it's essentially just anything that goes against female sexual strategy, e.g. slut shaming etc.
Auvergnat 5y ago
Well spotted.
As Rollo says, women viscerally react with disgust at “manspreading” because they unconsciously interpret it as a sexual display from a man that her hypergamous impulse as categorised as a “beta”, thus kicking the hamster into drive.
And so it works with anything labelled “toxic masculinity”. Hypergamy dictates that every move from a man deemed alpha is fine (seen recently that video of that bodybuilder beating his woman to a pulp and her not pressing charges because she doesn’t want him to go to jail because she thinks it’s her fault?). But any move from beta men must be constrained to serve feminine needs, and thus shamed into oblivion.
A beta man not showing emotion is a beast of burden that doesn’t behave in a way that facilitates its control. So it is toxic masculinity.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
If men werent so beta, this wouldnt be an issue.
The more masculine men are, the more feminine women become.
Orbiter45 5y ago
Thats true, and something worth meditating on, thanks.
SKRedPill 5y ago
Women and their lack of frame. How did we take them seriously?
Starfuckingman 5y ago
Their pretty faces and juicy butts? Gotta look to what's under there though. God bless TRP.
LiveAFTSOV 5y ago
Their frame is a glass container that can be stuffed with any flavor of liquid, or smashed. With the loyalty of potatoes to boot.
Turkerthelurker 5y ago
More like women are the liquid that take the shape of the vessel they're in (a relationship or interaction). Without a solid vessel, they go with the flow, move freely, etc. describing hypergamy.
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Turkerthelurker 5y ago
Fair enough, both analogies work. Reminds me of this parable from the Tao te Ching:
Kilagria 5y ago
I mean the whole reason they're lashing out at him for displaying emotion is to show the hypocrisy of the conservative mindset of "Be manly! Also women can't be in positions of power because they're too emotional!"
Auvergnat 5y ago
He is their enemy. They would have lashed out at him for NOT displaying emotion just as well. Shaming is a fantastically flexible tool and there are hundreds of different social conventions available to shame from whatever perspective you want.
Kilagria 5y ago
Exactly. That's why all the articles popping up are nonsense, no need to give any attention to them.
We_Are_Legion 5y ago
Learn to recognize rationalization. They are adding a reasoning after the fact.
A man crying in public over anything less than death and agonizing pain (and sometimes even that) is not treated kindly. We are more charitable when it is private. But most charitable when it doesn't happen at all.
That said, I don't lament that men shouldn't cry. Women and weak men cannot understand it but crying is not always neccessary. It is not the panacea that men need. When you are told "not to cry", there is a deeper wisdom which we've forgotten to communicate.
My grandfather was gentle yet impossible to move to tears. My father was "tough" but easily moved to tears. After years of mindfulness meditation, learning stoicism and facing immense suffering, I came to agree with the wisdom of my grandfather. Torturing yourself with shame over your emotions is not the reason we tell you not to cry. It is because there were more meaningful ways to address pain.
What feminist, who encourage you to cry, has investigated the deeper wisdom of abandoning ego? Of not concerning yourself with what you cannot control and focusing on what you can? Of building virtue? Of taking meaningful action?
bot256 5y ago
I'd like to learn more about those more meaningful ways to address pain. Any source I could use with regards to that matter would be greatly appreciated. Could you point me towards anything that helped you in your journey?
We_Are_Legion 5y ago
Some things come from experience, and the observance of virtuous men (virtue, not as in "good" but in the way Aristotle used the word. Self-actualized). This means its hard to learn by just telling or reading.
Some men learnt it in sports. Others in battle. Others by just hanging out with tough men.
But I've been thinking on this concept for many days now. I have read books that increased my theoretical understanding, which helped me put it into practice. I will try to write out what I understand (and add further reading at the end). See if it makes sense to you. If it does, go into further reading and practice:
In words, it sounds cliche. It sounds like what you've always been told. What brings it from theory to practice? In a word: being forced to.
I remember a story about a rich man who asked a monk why despite his good life he had still not found peace. Yet here the poor monk was unshakable. The monk said "Pain is the teacher that often leads to Enlightenment. One of the reasons you have not found peace is that you have it easy. But life gives you what you need. And if you have not suffered, that is not a problem. Eventually, that will come. Life will give you what you need." Life gives you suffering until you figure out how to handle it.
I lost a lot of things important to me. In the process, I accepted (rather than becoming bitter) that things are the way that they are and that in the present moment, I am still fine and that I can still choose to not suffer and instead, take meaningful action. I also kept up a daily meditation habit for several years.
FURTHER READING:
Marcus Aurelius "Meditations"
The Power of Now
Seneca (lots of his works. Start with Shortness of Life and On Peace of Mind)
A Complete Guide to Meditation by Dr John Yates
bot256 5y ago
I am really grateful and highly appreciate the effort put into this long reply. Will definitely look deeper into the info presented in it. A lot of those concepts you talk about I seem to be already somewhat familiar with (mainly from reading Marcus Aurelius) but , as with most things, practice is the key here. In turn, learning how to handle different types of pain really seems to be key to making your life better in many ways. After all, those are two of the main properties of the pill - it hurts but it helps make life better. Once again, thanks for the long and detailed reply, it's basically a post of its own and will surely come in handy for whoever needs it.
KeffirLime 5y ago
If anything, the ego is vital to the feminist agenda. Identity(ego) politics are the foundations of the movement.
They garner support from people who want to feel like they are part of something, to call themselves something, in this case a "feminist".
We_Are_Legion 5y ago
Very good observation.
It makes it easy to have sympathy for them, rather than anger.
No matter how much ground they gain on reddit. No matter how much of society they change, they are fundamentally unhappy.
They will remake the world and then find the problem was not with the world.
KeffirLime 5y ago
Even more so after reading alot of the neuroscience communities perspective on free will, or lack thereof.
They are the epitome of a seeking mindset. It's why they've over shot the mark of equality. They got equality but the mentality of the seeker kicks in and the next target is set.
No matter how many targets they achieve they will never reach a point of satisfaction or content, they will simply re-calibrate and seek something else.
What i like most about his community is that instead of having a movement that simply fights their movement(seeking mindset) with different targets, we instead preach concepts, such as understanding, outcome independence, acceptance.
Concepts that under any circumstances bring happiness to the individual.
The feminist agenda is chasing goals at the expense of happiness. (we will be angry and unhappy untill we get what we want)
Whereas we preach happiness in spit of our goals. (We will accept and function in the world the way it is wether we like it or not)
We_Are_Legion 5y ago
And yet its us who are censured for being a bad influence on the world.
Quaternionz 5y ago
Just a reminder of a great related Rational Male post: The Crying Game
wawakaka 5y ago
His tears were...Red pill rage tears
Kavanagh just woke up
This incident has the power to red pill men everywhere
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
And that exception for parental death should give you what kind of advantage exactly?
trpalternate 5y ago
The final straw that yanked the plugs out of my head was when my grandma died.
I wasn't working at the time, and I got the news late at night. The next day, I stayed at home and took some time for myself and frankly didn't feel like doing much.
My wife decided that would be a good time to berate me for not doing dishes.
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SKRedPill 5y ago
All that ok. Still, women need to learn their boundaries. That was insensitive of her.
trpalternate 5y ago
It was, but viewing it through the lens of the Feminine Imperative, it makes perfect sense.
We got married a few months prior, and as I mentioned, I was out of work for a bit at the time. Of course, I thought that since I'd supported her for a while before we were married, she'd be understanding while I looked for work in a shit economy. Not to mention that I was still in the Blue Pill "true wuv for ever" mindset.
Of course, that's not how the female brain works.
From her standpoint, I was becoming weak. I had no idea what shit tests were, so I was failing them left and right without even knowing. This of course, caused her to get increasingly agitated, and I'd respond by trying to placate her. Cue more shit tests, and the vicious cycle repeats. This went on for a while.
The incident above was what finally got me to read and understand TRP. The dominoes fell one by one.
Crash Solisism. What mattered wasn't the economy, or what jobs are available, or that my mind really wasn't on dishes at that moment. Women see the world through their own emotional state. And hers was that she'd just hitched her wagon to a guy who made her feel upset for reasons she couldn't quite place. My emotional state, of course, could have been another country for all she cared.
Crash Briffault's Law. In that moment, she wasn't thinking about what I'd done for her previously. All that mattered was how she felt in the moment. Or, "But what have you done for me lately?"
And of course, crash Hypergamy. The thread that tied it all together. Her shitty behavior was a result of her viewing my status as declining.
I realized that I had to be the Captain, and that I was the one who had to right the ship. I hit the gym, started shutting down shit tests and stopped tolerating bad behaviour. The results, at the time, were almost uncanny. Five years later, I look back on those days as a reminder to never backslide or let my guard down.
redpilluk 5y ago
You're still tolerating bad behaviour if she berates you for not washing the dishes though...
MardGeer 5y ago
It doesn't, don't cry when your parents die in front of her. I think a poster once detailed how he handled it by working himself harder and not giving her any attention or something like that and it worked effectively.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
I’m asking OP specifically because when ones parent dies it’s usually the situation the bitch starts fucking someone else.
And that’s also my experience.
So I asked OP specifically to see if he walks the walk or just talks shit as everybody else.
You blew it :-(
Psychological_Radish 5y ago
Is Ron Swanson's advice about not crying except at funerals and the Grand Canyon supposed to be followed to the letter?
Maybe the tongue in cheek nature of my remark wasn't clear, but I think it suffices to say that losing control of one's emotions in front of a woman should be reserved for circumstances totally out of one's control - such as the death of a loved one.
ex_addict_bro 5y ago
It wasn’t. Dude, I hardly speak English and I don’t watch movies because that’s gay as fuck. Perhaps it would be understood by some better audience, like GLOs articles.
BlackFallout 5y ago
Death of a loved on isn't good enough. An Ex 8 years ago cheated on me after my dad died, said I was being a bitch. My dad was my best friend. I told her to get the fuck out my house. Then I found the red pill and it all started to make sense.
BrownGummyBear 5y ago
I’m glad you told her to fuck off
ricoue 5y ago
It might have more to do with what political side you are on. When Obama cried during his gun violence speech he was praised by almost all news outlets.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
There's a world of difference between shedding tears of empathy and being a whinny entitled ass.
DatAEK971 5y ago
I voted for Obama twice, campaigned for him in 2008. Still liked him. Vastly better than Cheeto Man. But....When he cried there.... I really lost a lot of respect for his manliness. That was soft. It was cringe. And a bit gay.
brontide 5y ago
MSM is one hella drug, break the cycle while you have the chance.
BrownGummyBear 5y ago
So you didn’t lost respect for Obama after he didn’t closed Wantanamo or legalized weed (both things he promised). But nooooo, the deal breaker was when you saw him shed tears...
IVIaskerade 5y ago
It's ok, we don't blame you.
Mr_KenSpeckle 5y ago
Twenty 6 and 7 year olds had been gunned down in their classrooms. I think a few tears rolling down the cheek was acceptable. He wasn't a slobbering mess.
miamiedge 5y ago
This is what's wrong with American democracy. People vote based on "likability" only. Are you trying to get a policy result or are you trying to fuck a middle aged (or senior) man?
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Fact is, President Cheeto Man is doing a great job pushing for Kavanuagh. And if ancient RBG or diabetic Sotomayor open up their seats it's O-V-A-H for feminism, abortion, affirmative-action, et al.
DatAEK971 5y ago
It's cool you like Cheeto. GG.
miamiedge 5y ago
I just explained that it shouldn't be about likability. Are you fucking with people or did you not get that first part of my post?
DatAEK971 5y ago
Cheeto is a Wallstreet, Mega Corp sellout. Even more so than Obama, at or near the same level as W. And he's a slob and total idiot. A Useful idiot as the Soviets would say... Yes, useful. If he actually did anything he said he would during the campaign- audit the Fed, open up Healthcare, build the wall, curb the Military Industrial Complex, greatly reduce the taxes on the poor and serf classes, hold the banks accountable, bomb "the hell outta them" (ISIS), I'd be on board. But not only has he NOT DONE ANY OF THOSE PROMISES, he's actually done the opposites in many respects.
He's a con man. I got duped. You got duped. Difference is I know which way the wind is blowing. You're still neck deep up Cheetos butt hole. Take it easy bro. We really don't have a democracy. Just take some sort of measured solace in the fact that the 2016 Presidential election provided the worst candidates in modern history.
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reluctantly_red 5y ago
Sorry but Kavanaugh was an emotional wreck during his testimony. He's obviously does not have a judicial temperament.
Walkebe 5y ago
He'd still be far preferable to a post menopausal woman.
surfsusa 5y ago
Walk in his shoes and endure what he endured for as long has he had to and then come back and say that. The left is up against the wall and they will do or say anything to prevent a shift in the court from left center to right. Their problem if he gets in and Ginsburg croaks before Trump leaves office and gets to pick another justice, then there will be 20-30 maybe 40 years of the Supreme Court actually doing its proper job by interpreting the Constitution and no more making up/ creating laws to appease the left because they couldn't get enough votes to get their bills passed. Their way of governing against the will of the people will be over.
max_peenor 5y ago
By our standards, perhaps. The vast majority of the US doesn't share our standards.
Staatssicherheit_DDR 5y ago
Haha. People like you are truly evil. I love it.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Evil? I've seen evil. I've worked at big law firms in New York and San Francisco. They're full of rich entitled guys like Kavanaugh.
Staatssicherheit_DDR 5y ago
Rich entitled brats like those Duke Lacrosse kids. 88 Duke Professors agree.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
The Duke kids did lie about scores of petty issues. Trial judges instruct juries that if they think a witness lied about one fact they should consider disbelieving everything he says.
Staatssicherheit_DDR 5y ago
Speaking of falsus in uno, what do you make of Ford saying she had no idea that she could have given a sworn testimony at home? Do you think she was lying or do you think Katz lied to her?
reluctantly_red 5y ago
The premise is only sort of true.
Staatssicherheit_DDR 5y ago
Why did Senator Feinstein not refer this matter over to the FBI but instead referred Ford over to Katz?
sleepyinbk 5y ago
Maybe he's just a bitch-ass fuckboy twat? That's kind of the vibe I was getting with all the crying.
sir_wankalot_here 5y ago
People, particularly women, find crying in men disgusting, what is there not to understand?
Demiurge_Decline 5y ago
The reason women find men crying as disgusting is because they know 90% of the time their cries have been manipulative since they were watching Sesame Street. They don't trust it because they dont trust their own.
sir_wankalot_here 5y ago
The conventional RP wisdom is that women despise weakness. What you stated could play a role in it.
MardGeer 5y ago
I find crying gross and manipulative, even from women. It's a good defense mechanism I built on distrust.
SKRedPill 5y ago
And even when your parents die, only in a dignified manner. The more Subtle it is, the powerful it becomes.
Gimmick_puppet 5y ago
I too am watching SNL. And as soon as I saw the title I knew that it was about the opening skit. Nothing about it surprised me, but it was still gut wrenching seeing the absolute lack of empathy towards Kauvanagh. I saw the hearing live. I was moved, the conservative senators were moved, and even the news anchors were visibly moved. But the SNL writers felt nothing. They laughed, they felt disgust, hate, anger, but no empathy. It was like they saw him as less than human. I mean it's fun poking holes at the logical inconsistencies. SNL made jokes about how the conservative senators had already made up their minds before the hearing even started but the liberal senators and media were already protesting before any candidate was even chosen. They made a frat party skit where they joked that party goers would suffer future consequences for their drunken antics. Then the last joke was this party would become a story on the Rolling Stones but must have forgotten the real Rolling Stone story was a false allegation.
Hillary_For_Prison 5y ago
That is exactly how they see anyone who is not on their side. Everyone who is not a leftist is an un-person to the leftists. This is how they justify their By Any Means Necessary rhetoric. To them, people who disagree with their ideology are not people and they do not feel bad destroying them.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Let's not forget that they said Grahams response was because he was "positioning for Trumps cabinet" even though he has no such ambition, yet completely didn't play the same joke which was much more applicable for booker
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DownyGall 5y ago
I get them making fun of the calendars, that’s relatively understandable and an easy thing to poke fun at. It’s the making fun of the tears that’s stupid. He was getting choked up because it was his Dad that started the calendar tradition. If he was choked up about the calendars, yeah that’s weird. I guess it’s just sad that the why behind the choking up went over SNL’s heads and they just saw it as him crying about calendars.
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Ever since SNL did that mopey sorrowful piano piece after Trump was elected that show can't claim it is all about comedy.
From time to time they'll actually poke fun at the liberal bubble - but it is fairly rare.
Sometimes SNL is just plain political.
DownyGall 5y ago
I mean they easily could have made fun of Ford with her Valley girl/munchkin voice at the age of 50. Though that’s a little unseemly I guess.
Well, either way, they rarely make fun of the libs and when they do it’s in service of the Left. For example, the sketch when they made fun of male feminists getting angry at getting rejected was totally brilliant BUT the undercurrent was that we need true male feminists and not real men.
user02965 5y ago
"Patriarchal society doesn't allow men to show emotions!!"
later:
"Brett Kavanaugh is just an ANGRY WHITE MAN!"
suaressi 5y ago
is there a full video of the whole kavanaugh thing?
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Im_Not_Kevin 5y ago
Thanks for this. Always good to review current events to see what knowledge and information is reaffirmed.
I've read before on here the importance of not showing weakness to a woman, particularly emotionally. And I've had past experiences/dates/LTR pre-RP that fucked up because I showed that very weakness. Judge Kavanaugh's situation of female disdain has been seen time and time again.
DownyGall 5y ago
I just watched Unforgiven and got very emotional at the end, with that final poem and the music and the sunset. I don’t think a woman could understand that. Going back to avenge/honor your brother in arms. Absolutely beautiful. Amazing masculine filmmaking.
Nergaal 5y ago
This sub is so full of toxic masculinity. /s
TheSelfGoverned 5y ago
No, it is shameful fragile masculinity - because we talk about our feelings.
DatAEK971 5y ago
Just another prime example of why you should get video/audio/text/ record of consent. I know back in 81', they didn't have smartphones, but today there's no excuse. Learn from this guy's fuck up. Also, remember, your hand is your friend. Jerk that shit good. Your hand will not pen a rape beef on you 30 years later post knuckle soldier deployment.
When your bitch won't give up the pussy, as the great Bill Burr said, "That's like her locking the fridge, but you still got a club sandwich in your pocket". Jerking off is a safe way to bust that nut. Pussy is overrated. And now it seems, quite volatile. Proceed with caution.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
Will not matter...you can't video every single second of your life.
This obviously crazy woman only claims that Kavanaugh grinded on her at a party but she claims to not know when or where if happened only it was at some point 35 years ago. She can't tell how she got to the party or who invited her to the party or even who was there. Hell even the five people she claimed could attest to her having been at this party ALL say that they don't remember any such event and her best friend who she said was there says that she never was at a party or met Brett Kavanaugh.
There is no defense.....when you are the wrong side of the media and their favorite political group then you are guilty. If this was a Democrat appointee then the CNN. MSNBC, ABC, NYT and the rest would be destroying the hell out of any person who claimed such stupidness in public and "proving" that his woman was a nut.
Of course, the reason that the details are so vague is precisely so that the charge can't be refuted...if this crazy lady came out and said that Kavanaugh raped her May 23rd 1982 at Joe Bob's house on 123 Maple Street, then the accused could show that he wasn't there or was at another party or was out of town....but by being purposely vague a person would have to try to remember every party, every weekend, every day and every encounter of any type with a girl which might could be misconstrued....35 YEARS AGO.
For all we know, this chick was blind drunk, stumbling around in the hall and bumped into a couple of boys which turned into someone trying to grope her....who the hell knows.
There is no defense against such things.
Shadowthrice 5y ago
Get consent of what? Ford's accusations were fabricated from thin air.
What possible recording could protect Kavanaugh from that?
DownyGall 5y ago
You have to record your entire life
Hillary_For_Prison 5y ago
That is what it has come to.
I should probably get my son fit with a lapel video recorder and have him wear it whenever he leaves the house and to a data-dump to a cloud server very day. It might be useful for him to be able to account for where he was and what he was doing when he was 11 years old.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
That means nothing. You literally can't prevent a fake accusation
DownyGall 5y ago
I know. I was being facetious.
JVirgil 5y ago
I think on some level the disgust for Kavanaugh's emotion is to protect themselves from having to confront the fact that they are responsible for the character assassination of a perfectly respectable man.
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Tomimi 5y ago
If you didn't do anything wrong, why worry about it? Why obstruct justice when there's no crime done?
So what if he raped someone 35 years ago? It was still rape. If I killed someone 35 years ago, or I stole 35 years ago, or I beat someone 35 years ago doesn't mean it never happened.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
You do know he didn't do anything wrong, right?
His biggest crime, I suspect, is that he didn't even notice this somewhat crazy girl at a small gathering 35 years ago if they even ever met which is doubtful. None of the people she keeps swearing to be witnesses don't even remember ever being in the same house together much less having been in the room while somebody was getting raped.
Poor woman has tons of emotional\mental issues which will come to light over time......whether they take down Kavanaugh or not.
theshameisreallyreal 5y ago
Aside from lie continuously. its demonstrated that he has perjured himself over numerous things not related to Blasey Ford. Once a Liar always a Liar.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
No he hasn't.....
Changing the goalpost again...I see.
The simple reality is that Kavanaugh was a A1 qualified candidate for the Supreme Court who had always been highly regarded by everyone with whom he had any legal or professional dealings for over 25 years including the ABA, several judicial appointments\courts and as a Professor at Harvard. That is why he was confirmed for 3 other federal judgeships including the DC Circuit Court of Appeals which is the very center of major political decisions in the US.
So because they had no way to professional disqualify a perfect candidate for the Supreme Court, some of the worst members of the Democrat Party tried to dive into the gutter to take this qualified candidate down...
And talking about liars.....does this Ford woman fly or not? Or does she only get the vapers in flight when she has to fly over Reagan National or the Potomac?
I feel sorry for the woman actually because she has obvious mental issues so someone close to her should have protected her from being used by such people as the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee in this way.
You should be ashamed of your Party but that would be unlikely since power at all cost has always been the rallying cry of progressives and their allies.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Women want you to open up to them and show emotion but ONLY when it makes them feel like you trust them deeply and NOT to support you. Trust me, you see a difference
You get yelled at at work, or lose a job, or have a bad day, and cry in front of them they'll view you as weak and not capable of leading the household. However, if you cry for a legit reason (and there aren't many) then they will feel as part of your "secret club" in a way.
I'd limit reasons to cry in front of a SO to death of close friend or family member, birth of child, maybe death of a dog. That's it
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Last night I went out to a comedy club in the city. A woman from a very liberal city in California was one of the comedians that night. She tried shitting on Kavanaugh and the crowd wasn't having any of it. This was her remark, "This has been such a hard week for women all over the country. Can we just agree that rape is bad?" After the show I decided to check out her twitter to see how fucked up she really was and one of her most recent tweets said, "Impeach all men."
Make no mistake men. Feminism is not here to make women's lives better. Feminism is sexism disguised as progress for a group of women who want the world to burn and they're taking no prisoners. The mission of feminism is to destroy your masculinity and they will stop at nothing to do it.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
The purpose of feminism was to allow unattractive women who were very low on the social pecking order more power in mainstream society.
RedPill115 5y ago
That is spot on.
Feminism is the combination of 2 things:
1. The most miserable women who want to make all the other women and men miserable to (misery loves company)
2. Corporate interests who see it an an excellent platform to push money-making ideas through (making sandwhiches for your husband is oppression! making sandwhiches at subway makes you a proud career woman!).
redpilluk 5y ago
What the fuck? You pay money to watch female comedians? Insane left wing feminist female comedians? Why, to heckle them?
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The others were fine. She was the only crappy one.
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NotLuceBree 5y ago
I found the reaction to Kavanaugh's anguish disgusting. Let's also remember that he choked up when recounting how his ten year old daughter suggested they pray for Ford.
They dismiss this man's emotion--an understandable response to a stressful situation during which his reputation has been destroyed and his family threatened--as an entitled tantrum.
I know this is the wrong sub, but there's a reason MGTOW is exploding right now.
ImHerWonderland 5y ago
I don't keep cable at home, and lately I've been focused completely on excersise, work, and studying for my BA so I'm completely out of the loop on current events besides bill Cosby memes. Is there anywhere you can link me where I can get a summary of what this is all about that isn't some feminist bullshit? It seems interesting.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Shameless pandering for fundamentalist Christians.
McDrMuffinMan 5y ago
You know some of us actually believe that it's our duty to act better than those who act upon us.
God is to spirituality what red pill is to dating and marriage
RedPillWintergreen 5y ago
I am a childless atheist and that moment really hit home for me. For him to have faked that moment would have required him to be Marlon Brando.
NotLuceBree 5y ago
There were definitely parts of his testimony where he clung to his faith to signal that he was a good man.
Thing is, I'm an atheist. I was still moved by the account of his daughter's comment. I suspect many others were as well, and didn't jump to your cynical conclusion.
TropicalToucan 5y ago
Ex Muslim Atheist. That part actually hit home for me too.
Notsouh78 5y ago
I listened to the entire hearing over the radio. The minute he cracked, I felt for him. I'm not sure whether he's guilty or not. Our system tends be based on the idea that any persons accused of a crime are innocent UNTIL proven guilty. Aside from this woman just throwing accusations about? There is no evidence to prove her claims.
Let's contrast this with another case that occurred recently involving Bill Cosby. The women in that case came forward IN DROVES because they knew Bill was a predator and belonged behind bars. Bill almost would have gotten away with it. He had a strong public image, and everyone never thought he'd actually turnout to be a rapist....but, the numbers were against him, and among that group of women who were assaulted? Some of them had actual proof. A LOT of these cases occurred years ago, but these women HAD PROOF.
Anyhow, this is case is no longer taken seriously as it should be. I think that HAD Brett held it together? We would not be questioning any of his statements. We, as men, can sympathize with Brett to an extent, but we also know to maintain our emotions to reach an objective based outcome in our final judgment.
I think Brett missed his dad, he missed his friends, he had good memories and good times that he remembered fondly. In a time when you are looked upon as human scum regardless of what you say or do? Looking back on good times will make you choke. But, we're men. Society won't allow us this display of weakness as they do women.
Had Brett held it together? I have a feeling we wouldn't be doubting his story. Now? Well...Brett's guilty now, not because this woman is telling the truth, or because she has evidence, but because Brett showed weakness. Much as it may pain you boys? NEVER show weakness. Not to women, and not to society. But, if you're here? You knew that already...
Solon64 5y ago
He isn't guilty.
Whether he shows emotion or not, the facts are the facts and the truth is the truth, and if Ford can't prove that Kav raped her beyond a reasonable doubt, he's innocent, period, full stop, end of discussion.
Saying "he's guilty because he showed emotion" is exactly the type of shit that mgtow and TRP and the manosphere is fighting against.
Notsouh78 5y ago
I agree with you and I agree with your final statement. I only say "he's guilty because he showed emotion" as I'm sure it's what some people are likely thinking. I don't think he's guilty myself. Not by burden of proof OR for showing emotion. Like I said, I feel for the guy, and there is no proof to show he did rape these women, but you can see how people reacted already. Doesn't matter if there's evidence, he's treated as guilty because of one simple thing...he showed a bit of weakness. It's fucked up, but it's the truth.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
I try not to view the world through a moral lens anymore, but it's hard not to view the left as pure evil at this point.
TheSelfGoverned 5y ago
They have a point with the plight of the working class and being anti-war...
Oh wait, the left never discusses that anymore, and they MOST CERTAINLY have no solutions. Trump is fully anti-war, and more interested in helping the poor than the entire democrat machine.
whenfoom 5y ago
My theory is that TRP got quarantined because of this smear campaign and its inevitable fallout.
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This ain't it at all. Women know damn well what vulnerability and emotions look like. It's just that when these emotions are shown the majority of the time, the man showing them has already been reduced to being "not a man" or "too sensitive" or demhumanized in some other way for feeling something.
They fully understand. They just don't care at worst, and at best, they're just scared because it means somebody doesn't have the situation handled already.
And yes, as a man, if you want to keep a woman around, you have to have all the answers, or at least be confident enough to march into the unknown without flinching.
It's not that women can't understand when a man is being vulnerable or emotional, it's that it disgusts them or really fucking scares them. I'd actually say they "understand" a man doing this a lot more than the man understands himself...
But never show that shit to a woman. If you need help, reach out to a male friend, an older male family member, search this sub or the asktrp sub for a similar situation, fucking inbox someone you respect on here, or even get professional help if that's what you need to do. Just don't bother laying the shit on a woman. She won't be much help regarding your male suffering.
brotein_synthesis 5y ago
Funerals and The Grand Canyon. These are the rules.
Hillary_For_Prison 5y ago
I make an exception for publicly facing baseless life-ruining accusations made by mentally ill political activists in the name of politicians and parties who believe the ends justify the means.
Original_Dankster 5y ago
And just a year or so back, Canada's (female) Foreign Minister walked out of a trade negotiation and broke down in tears because she couldn't get her way, and the media fawned over her.
http://archive.is/FmXYC
https://archive.fo/yvxLK
Quigon-Jin 5y ago
My reaction to his indignation was OMG man, way too much DEER and not enough DARE
mussawi 5y ago
He cried, and she didn't. That's what made him look bad.
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Tek_Analyst 5y ago
Not to mention her GoFund me account
RedPillWintergreen 5y ago
He didn't cry over his calendars. He got choked up when he talked about how his daughter prayed for his accuser. And it was highly effective from a persuasion standpoint. A much worse strategy would have been to try to come off as an unemotional automaton.
A much more eloquent man than me could probably examine the difference between the male and female psych at play here. On the one hand is an accusing woman with nothing but emotion on her side. On the other is a straight laced male that kept detailed calendars.
Psychological_Radish 5y ago
There were numerous moments, the calendars part was just not the most dramatic or memorable.
I would agree that the showing was persuasive (and needed to be), but the point is how the feminist media reacted.
dynospectrum7 5y ago
Sorry, but no. Kavanaugh was being a bitch.
Both Obama and Trump got put through the ringer for their entire campaign seasons.
Neither of them broke down like this. We're talking about someone who is about to be on the SCOTUS, and can't keep it together during a few hours of questioning.
Acrimont 5y ago
I react with loathing too, because no man should cry before others and nothing in politics occurs on accident or through stupidity.
max_peenor 5y ago
I take it that you don't live in California.
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carpetstain 5y ago
What makes you so sure he is a rapist? What empirical evidence do you have that can show us he is what you say he is?
umbra_lumen 5y ago
Why are you posting/commenting completely worthless statements?
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Islam-Delenda-Est 5y ago
jellyjuku comment karma: -21
lol
Menchstick 5y ago
That's not the point of the discussion for now.
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Narcius 5y ago
Why does this sound exactly like a protestor or a liberal telling something to Milo or Ben Shapiro?
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Alleyria 5y ago
Well, according to the US Judicial Code of Conduct, a judge is supposed to:
(http://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/code-conduct-united-states-judges)
So, there is actually an emotional standard he's being held to, and that - in my opinion - he fell short of. This isn't a trial, this is a job interview, and he behaved poorly. Making reciprocal accusations to the senators and yelling and crying just doesn't reflect well for the highest court in the land. I think we can do better.
TheEagleAndTheSnake 5y ago
The job interview was two weeks prior. This was indeed a trial. A smear job, a witch hunt. Feinstein held the accusation for weeks and used it when necessary. Imagine being accused of rape with NO evidence at all and instead of being treated like a possible victim of false accusation yourself, you are treated as if you were guilty and have to prove yourself innocent while you're being laughed at by the media and your family is receiving death threats. Your comment is garbage. What happened to Kavanaugh should not happen to anybody in any civilised country.
RedPill115 5y ago
You got that b.s. backwards. If he was the judge on a trial that involved one of his family members or something he would be renoved from the case because a judge couldn't be expected to remain impartial on a case they were personally involved in.
I don't recall a job interview where I was accused of committing crimes. That's called a trial.
John_Smith_legend 5y ago
that limb is mighty stretched, you're about to fall off.
sweetleef 5y ago
Have you ever been the subject of a global media attack, 2 billion people reading about how you're a piece of shit animal "rapist", reporters hounding you and protesters screeching everywhere you go, then be put in front of cameras with the whole world hanging on your every word? Have you spent your entire life trying to do good, trying follow the rules, excelling at everything through tons of hard work over decades, only to have it all demolished by obviously ridiculous lies and abysmal stupidity?
It's easy to play toughguy warrior from your keyboard, but if you were ever in that position I wouldn't bet on you behaving any less "poorly".
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