It's about what you'd expect from an administration that's cornered by reason. Ignore, deflect, and continue pushing the ambiguous rules and pretend they could actually be followed. When someone's wrong, they just keep repeating the same thing. Because what they really mean but can't work up the courage to say is: "We don't actually have a rational argument against your appeal."
https://a.trp.red/files/appeal-response1.png
Thank you for your message.
To be removed from quarantine, you may present an appeal. The appeal should include a detailed accounting of changes to community moderation practices -- as that is not what you are presenting here we cannot review this as a reasonable appeal.
Our Response:
You haven't told us what moderation practices are in question.
We remove all content that violates the Terms of Service and Content Policies. We do not allow breaking reddit's rules on our subreddit. People who violate the rules are given warnings or banned, their comments removed.
We comply with every request from the admin if and when they occur.
We pre-emptively ban all inter-reddit links with automoderator to prevent possible brigading.
Please tell us what moderation practices are in violation so we can make a "reasonable appeal."
For those following the appeal:
- September 27th - The Reddit Admin Quarantine TRP
- September 29th - The Reddit Administration Tacitly Endorses Male Abuse and Denies its Victims
- October 1st - Admin Recant Quarantine Message
- October 4th - Initial Appeal
- October 11th - Appeal Status
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DancesWithPugs 5y ago
Raw power exercised by flabby minds with no consistent standards is authoritarianism.
kealh 5y ago
What the fuck? Redpill is one sub Reddit that actually change my life. It gives me the opportunity to look inward and change. Either lift or dating. God I just hate social justice win and take this great sub away.
BluBlac59 5y ago
I've noticed some woman bashers on here occasionally. (Frustrated looking for help or answers types) They need to be removed or moderated and this needs to remain a men's self improvement page. It's to easy for frustration to be labeled hate when it's just some guy starting on his Red Pill journey.
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livinglikeJamesBond 5y ago
I couldn't find the Red Pill subreddit at all last weekend – is it because quarantined content doesn't show up in searches or because the subreddit got actually deleted for some reason? Why is it back up now?
LoveYourNeighbor3848 5y ago
You have to be logged in and approve objectionable content to see it. It is dark web now
Herdsengineers 5y ago
why not ask them how come redpill gets quarantined to protect people from things they might not want to see but subs that are dedicated to porn, chicks pegging guys in the ass with dildos, etc. aren't? oh wait, libtards - they actually support all forms of degeneracy and radical destruction of all things male.
botsquash 5y ago
you should also have a bitcoin cash donation address and cross posts onto censorship free sites like memo.cash
jay_jay_man 5y ago
I'm a developer. How can I contribute?
Aazaad 5y ago
Attempt at censorship. Plain and simple.
Sekaiwoshiro 5y ago
so how is the forums.red site going to work?
if we post on the forums.red website will it be posted here on reddit too?
if we comment on the forums.red will it be posted here on reddit too?
and would the reverse also be true?
or are we going to ditch this place completely and only post on forums.red?
because if we make a new forum for trp, that would mean less members would come here and would rather go to forums.red, which in turn will cause less activity here. And i don't think i'm gonna alternate between two sites either, and i'm sure other members think the same.
I just don't understand which one is gonna the default hub for us
gELSK 5y ago
// , I'm glad to see that this project accepts donations in Bitcoin, because they will have records on the Public Bitcoin Blockchain that may improve accountability.
Seripha 5y ago
Super annoying they quarantained. Why treat people like kids - freedom of speech plz, we in the west...
[deleted] 5y ago
You guys don't even let new posters post. It's hard to truly support a forum that doesn't even have the men joining in their interest. I tried to ask questions twice on this forum and you don't allow us to post.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
That's to prevent trolls who get banned and make 10 new accounts the same day. You're suggesting a huge heap of extra work for the already over-worked mods.
If you legitimately need help, you will not have a problem sitting down, reading the sidebar for a day or two before joining the discussion.
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I've had my account 5 years, I've never posted on Reddit except for this account. I had a specific issue. You assume I haven't read most of the side bar, I don't say all because I prefer not to lie.
Not everyone is an internet troll. Some people want to ask legitimate questions and they are legitimate (not a side bar topic).
Is that too nuanaced? That's why Reddit quarantined red pill, they can't see nuances. But the mods here treat the new people like Reddit treats the forum.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
No, the mods treat new accounts with low priority.
That's because a lot of new accounts aren't new people, they are trolls.
You're able to post here, right?
So what's the issue?
gELSK 5y ago
// , Take some of your own advice, though, and try to see the nuances here.
Can you post now? Can you imagine possible scenarios, like "Reddit Brigading" that the enforced delays would prevent?
Kyson5 5y ago
The time for abandoning ship approaches
I care more about our new safe haven rather than this shit stinking swamp of political correctness and feely feels
RatMan29 5y ago
It would be nice if we could take some of Reddit's other groups with us when we go (or when they subsequently get banned). I'm surprised that MensRights and The_Donald, for examples, have been allowed to stay here for as long as they have.
daffy_duck233 5y ago
Reddit admins are allergic to rational arguments/proposals.
darchetype 5y ago
You said it. Regardless of what happens with this quarantine, reddit in general has turned into the post-wall girlfriend who I have lost all attraction toward, wasting my time and not improving my life in the slightest. It's time to dump her and move on.
freshoutofgravitas 5y ago
Hit em where it hurts. Anytime i feel like gilding someone, or click and advertising link, ill do it on forum.red , and maybe publish proof of transaction. Attract advertisers to forum red. Publish the receipt on reddit. "Hey i really liked that comment, so im going to gild it. On a website more deserving of the money! Peace out" I suspect reddit likes money, and dislikes users leaving for, and funding a more rational platform.
cuteshooter 5y ago
The Atlantic Council members steering the censor ship of all big media could care less about shitty amounts of ad revenue.
They and their agencies care much more about controlling the narrative and making sure "the people" stay dumb (as in both stupid, and muted). Wake up!
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rygy3 5y ago
Why is there a need for abandoning ship? As far as I know Reddit doesn't intend to remove this sub, just make it harder to find. It's sad, but simultaneously helps us out because the fewer people swallowing the red pill the fewer alpha males to compete with for pussy.
SirKolbath 5y ago
For fucks sake, TRP is not about getting pussy!
It’s about improving yourself as a man. Jesus, have you actually read any of it!?
Celicni 5y ago
Straight from the sidebar:
It most definitely is about getting pussy. 90% of guys that find this will be billy betas, like I was, desperate for pussy. 20 year old guys want to fuck more than they want to stay alive. It's only after getting pussy that the real redpill hits you.
SirKolbath 5y ago
Sexual strategy does not mean solely fucking women, and if you’re using women as a scoreboard your life is too pathetic to be calling anything you’re doing “redpelled”. There is a reason we discuss a broad spectrum of men’s rights, approach, personal improvement, and the like. Sexual strategy means strategy in a sexual marketplace.
You want to get pussy, go to the PUA forum, which is about getting laid. This is a discussion we have had here before, numerous times. Why is it that you blooper idjits have to spend three weeks here and declare you know what this place is all about constantly? It gets tiresome to have the same damn conversation over and over with people who either haven’t read the sidebar, or didn’t understand it.
This was a better forum when it had a minimum member time before you were allowed to comment or post.
Celicni 5y ago
Get off your high horse dumbass. The goal is getting pussy. The journey to there is improving yourself as a man. That's why we're here and not in a PUA forum. I doubt almost anyone goes "hmm I just want to improve myself as a man" and then finds the red pill. You come here cause you're tired of being fucked by the world figuratively, and never fucked literally.
Once you learn how easy it actually is, then you focus specifically on improvement, but you don't teach someone to run before you teach them to walk.
Also, it's around exactly a year since I was here. I've improved myself greatly. What you don't understand is, my goal was to get pussy. Along the way, when I learned how to get pussy, I "understood" the sidebar as you say. But we all start with the same goal. Which is why, yes, the red pill most definitely is about getting pussy.
rygy3 5y ago
It's about whatever you want it to be for. I don't care if I look fat or if I'm fit as fuck. Physical appearance doesn't make me happy. I don't need to improve myself for me because I'm confident as fuck and content how I am. I use Red Pill to get pussy. It's the reason I lift. Fuck self improvement. If that's what motivates you, as I'm sure it does you and many others, terrific. That's not why I'm here. For me, it's 100% about understanding social interactions, particularly with females, and arriving at a result that benefits me (getting laid).
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I still don't understand talks of "abandoning ship" seeing as Reddit has given no indication of plans to ban the subreddit. To the extent of my knowledge, the ONLY thing they've done to this sub so far is make it harder for new people to stumble across.
SirKolbath 5y ago
Good luck on becoming an adult.
You mean other than the quarantine that is literally discussed in this thread?
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Admin: "We can't review your appeal until you tell us when you stopped beating your wife!"
JamesSkepp 5y ago
I'm not beating my wife anymore. I have finished the Stony Brooks course on masculinity and, in the interest of gender equality, I let my wife beat me up now.
BadBoyProgrammer 5y ago
You are hurting her fists with your face. Shame on you!
ImshortandIhateit 5y ago
What the fuck lol.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
According to Michael Kimmel, that doesn't happen.
NotTuringBot 5y ago
According to the Duluth Model, even if it did happen the man should be arrested
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stylesm11 5y ago
Beating your wife would insinuate you have problems in your relationship, problems ppl familiar with this community DON'T have
Omnibrad 5y ago
So you stopped beating your wife when you discovered this forum?
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justpickanyusername 5y ago
Seems a little hypocritical for Reddit to push so hard for "net neutrality" and then create fast lanes and slow lanes on their own website.
Per Reddit CEO Steve Huffman (aka spez): “If we don’t have net neutrality protections that enforce tenets of fairness online, you give internet service providers the ability to choose winners and losers.”
You can argue what an internet service provider is, but it isn't hard to see the hypocrisy here.
lentils12 5y ago
This is one of the most bizarre cases of censorship
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eclectro 5y ago
Kinda interesting. I used to be in favor of net neutrality. But I say there should be no net neutrality for sites actively engaged in censorship. Which are mostly all the big websites pushing for it.
DamiensLust 5y ago
This is nonsensical. You either advocate net neutrality or you don't, advocating it for some websites based on your criteria is exactly the same as being against net neutrality.
eclectro 5y ago
By a technical definition it might be. But I'm also practical. Let's call it something else if you wish then. If your website is actively engaged in censorship as determined by some esteemed panel, then the big ISPs can bill whatever they want. But if your website acts impartial to differing voices, then the ISP will need to act like a utility towards you and they are not going to bill traffic users.
Let's not call it net neutrality even. Call it freedom neutrality. Your website gets treated neutral if you actually are.
Here's a similar but more draconian take on this - Digitally Assured Destruction (nsfw language)
DamiensLust 5y ago
This is a slippery slope. Websites are private entities, ISPs provide a public service thats these days akin to water or power. Why shouldn't websites be able to have the content they want? Should they also be forced to have Nazi propaganda or host political views that they disagree with? Should TRP be mandated to also provide the feminist argument lest it also be accused of "censorship"?
eclectro 5y ago
Let's say then that net neutrality exists for all websites with less than X million users. If you have more users than that, then you would fall under "freedom neutrality."
I'm sure that any number of objections could be made, and a solution could probably be found for most of them.
Nothing's ever perfect, but the rewards would outweigh the difficulties.
DamiensLust 5y ago
It's hypocritical to the core. You are suggesting we punish censorship with what amounts to censorship.
NEM3S1S 5y ago
They want their site treated with "neutrality", but don't really care about the people on their site. Fancy that, a website that cares about getting business and not caring about their users.
Polishrifle 5y ago
It amazes me that people feel the need to censor ideas. If ideas are bad, then shouldn’t they be easy to defeat? It’s the type of mindset that someone knows better for the whole that is frightening.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
The problem is that some ideas are good for population A and bad for population B. Eg "don't get married". There are winners and losers with this idea. It's an idea that has to be suppressed.
100% of women and 95% of men support beta ideals and blue pill programming.
Young women also fuck Chad and then pretend they haven't / wouldn't. But for us to say it makes us somehow anti-women. And in a way we are: the best female sexual strategy is duplicitous and deceitful: fuck Chad and then declare that she isn't "that girl any more" and marry billy beta. Billy has to believe that he has "won in the end". Society as we know it depends on men willingly paying for women through marriage, alimony, taxation and child support.
We undermine that, because it's a shitty deal for most men. Noone can disagree with the facts, but most people hate the facts because the lies are easier, prettier, and most people are heavily invested in them.
So that's 97.5% of the population with either a vested interest or are fooled into supporting the narrative and the status quo. The fact that we speak the truth and give men options makes us more hated, not less.
Noone is opposing us on factual grounds. Noone is saying what we say is untrue. We are attacked on ideological grounds: claims we hate women, claims we're all oversexed virgins. Lies to suppress our ideas not because they are bad ideas, but because they are bad for women and for the status quo.
This is an ideological war, not a fight for the truth.
Loverofalifetime 5y ago
And actually it is a fight for the truth because a lie is being perpetuated to the vast majority of men (I know I believed those lies for YEARS!!!)...
Thus the world we have today where men can pretty much GURANTEED to be screwed in divorce court and put in jail for non-payment of child support (How is someone suppose to pay child support if they are in jail??)
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bsutansalt 5y ago
Did anyone else notice their response admits our quarantine isn't to do with the content?
I found it highly interesting that in their hamfisted attempt to deflect they instead shifted the fault to our moderation, which they've clearly failed to cite any infractions of the site's ToS. Well then fine, presto! we're squeaky clean, all infractions are now nonexistent. See how that works?
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Of course it doesn't. We've moved on (societally) from the give and take of rational debate and discussion; now the SJW types want speech they disagree with banned and the speakers they disagree with destroyed, (shunned, fired from their work, etc.).
Astronaut Scott Kelly quoted Churchill on Twitter recently and the Twitterati shit themselves. Kelly scampered away by apologizing and promising to educate himself about Churchill's "atrocities" etc.
Kelly didn't do that because he was wrong to quote Churchill, arguably the greatest historical figure of the 20th Century, if not all time, he apologized because he was afraid.
This shows you what the Left - and let's just dispense with any silly arguments about who it is - is up to.
Prison4SideofBeef 5y ago
Churchill was an imperialist puppet for the UK royal family, desperate to rebuild their once great empire.
He was no where close to being the greatest historical figure of the 20th century. And I don't give a shit about the 'atrocities' SJWs claimed he performed lol
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
^ This displays an appalling level of ignorance of 20th Century history.
Prison4SideofBeef 5y ago
No, it is just real history that goes against the establishment narrative you've ascribed to.
History is written by the victors.
Never forget it.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
^ Like I said, this displays an appalling level of ignorance of 20th Century history.
Prison4SideofBeef 5y ago
Please tell me how my statement "displays an appalling level of ignorance of 20th Century history."
This sub is all about learning and self improvement and I wish to self improve.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Since you want to self-improve, I'd recommend starting with William Manchester's epic biography of Churchill "The Last Lion"
I would also recommend John Lukacs' "The Duel: 10 May–31 July 1940: the Eighty-Day Struggle between Churchill and Hitler"
Prison4SideofBeef 5y ago
You are recommending biased biographies written by cultural marxist academics? Bizarre.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Again you put your appalling ignorance on display: Manchester was a WWII Marine - you can read about his experience in his autobiographical history "Goodbye, Darkness - who has written several, high grade histories, including, in addition to The Last Lion, The Arms of Krupp, Death of a President", American Caesar and A World Lit Only By Fire.
Lukacs is a holocaust survivor who is also a staunch ANTI-Communist. The notion that either of these men is a cultural marxist is absurd on its face and contra to the facts, but you wouldn't know that because you never bothered to check and are merely talking out your ass.
gELSK 5y ago
// , Keep in mind, Kelly was subsequently berated by people who thought he should not have caved to "Political Correctness", and who thought that Churchill's quotation was apt.
The man just can't win on Twitter.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
The thing is, that second group was right. Twitter is a cesspool, and all that it proves is that when you get the loser kids the power, they suck too.
eclectro 5y ago
The did ban TRP at the same time as and with a bunch of white supremacists, Nazis, and things involving dead bodies to give them cover. Don't forget that bit.
triplewitching2 5y ago
Actually, there was a logical progression to the bans, only leading up to this one. In retrospect, its not that different then how the Nazis purged Germany of undesirables, as described in a famous poem.
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First they came for r/coontown and I said nothing, because I love my black brothers and sisters
Then they came for r/incel and I said nothing, because I don't really care about those beta guys
Then they came for me—and I looked around for other edgy politically incorrect groups to support me, but there was no one left to speak for me
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I'm not saying we should break bread with some racists, but maybe the internet needs its own Internet Civil Liberties Union that does defend these other subreddits, and for the same reason we need the ACLU IRL, because if you don't stand up for unpopular thought, someday your thought will be on the chopping block, and here we are.
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RatMan29 5y ago
There is a sort of "ICLU", eff.org. But they have stayed noticeably quiet ever since the James Damore firing kicked off the current round of bans and shadowbans by the Internet's largest companies. I have asked them why and gotten no reply, so I suspect at least some SJWs now sit on their board, making them unfit for their chartered purpose.
gELSK 5y ago
// , Coontown (finally figuring out what it was about) seemed a bit out there and extreme. But I get the overall idea.
triplewitching2 5y ago
Actually, there was a logical progression to the bans, only leading up to this one. In retrospect, its not that different then how the Nazis purged Germany of undesirables, as described in a famous poem.
First they came for the coontown sub and I said nothing, because I love my black brothers and sisters
Then they came for the incel sub and I said nothing, because I don't really care about those beta guys
Then they came for me—and I looked around for other edgy politically incorrect groups to support me, but there was no one left to speak for me
I'm not saying we should break bread with some racists, but maybe the internet needs its own Internet Civil Liberties Union that does defend these other subreddits, and for the same reason we need the ACLU IRL, because if you don't stand up for unpopular thought, someday your thought will be on the chopping block, and here we are.
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cuteshooter 5y ago
Internet Civil Liberties Union
Its' called the EFF> Electronic Frontier Foundation.
triplewitching2 5y ago
Well, its good that it exists, but they need to try a little harder, since reddit is getting sanitized of all un PC content pretty fast, soon we will be down to r-awww, and even that sub actually bans people for their posts in other subs (WTF, awww, really !!)
cuteshooter 5y ago
You can help them instead of saying they need to try harder.
I have my projects, doing something.
In other words, stfu and gtfo there and do something instead of complaining like some menstruating bitch.
Fulp_Piction 5y ago
So have the administration responded at all?
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
This was it so far:
https://a.trp.red/files/appeal-response1.png
Fulp_Piction 5y ago
Oh, thats so similar to the quarantine statement I didnt realise it was a separate message.
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CainPrice 5y ago
Quarantine is, by design, a subjective tool for use by the Reddit administration to segregate undesirable content from the view of general users.
If content violates Reddit's rules or content policies, it gets banned. Reddit didn't ban The Red Pill.
If content is not in violation of Reddit's rules or content policies, but in the subjective opinion of the Reddit Administration, an "average user" would find it "shocking or highly offensive", quarantine is the appropriate tool instead of banning.
There's no way to fight a quarantine, because it is, by design, a subjective opinion from someone who already doesn't like or agree with us. What's an "average user"? What would somebody who is "average" find "offensive" or "shocking"? Hell, I found The Red Pill shocking when I first read it. Most of average frustrated chumps who weren't getting laid did.
I'd say that's a pretty strong argument that an "average" person would find our content "shocking", actually. Most of us were "average" and were pretty "shocked" by what we read here.
Since quarantine is a subjective Reddit administration decision, by design, it can't be combated with an "appeal" that says "We don't violate your content policies". Because Reddit already knows we don't. That's why The Red Pill isn't banned, just quarantined. And it can't be combated with an appeal that says "We're not shocking or offensive", because they've already reviewed our content and subjectively decided we are.
There's literally no way to overcome a Reddit quarantine other than to actually change the content and moderation practices and demonstrate to them that this has been done for a period of one month. Which is stupid. The big guys on The Red Pill have no intention of doing that. This whole appeal thing is just designed to make the Reddit administration look silly. They already looked silly before, and nobody cared. But maybe they'll look sillier after this goes on for a bit.
dogkindrepresent 5y ago
They want us to get to the acceptance stage. Then we work out how to see the quarantine as a blessing. We realize, hey, now we can do anything we want, we can do all the things you should do to qualify being quarantined. People start to push the limits and then BOOM, full ban.
RatMan29 5y ago
To some extent that's true. I see the quarantine label as a parallel to you-know-who making Jewish people wear yellow stars. Not harmful by itself, so they tell us not to worry, and hold off long enough that some of us believe it. Then BOOM, Kristallnacht.
TempleOfIron 5y ago
Most subreddits that enter quarantine get banned eventually.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
It certainly is starting looking worse as more people around reddit talk about the sham of the appeal process.
Dawnguards 5y ago
Repetition is key. while we cant compress the information into one "meme image" or something like that..
Its all about showing everyone what red pill did, how it compares to real offensive forums and exposing injustice. We need to repeat thats the most effective thing because people remember it.
For example I voted in appeal yet I dont even remember what website it was, if we passed the required votes and etc. (people dont have much time to process so much injustice) :( p.s. forums.red looks wonderful!
ThePantsThief 5y ago
Where else is the appeal process being discussed besides this subreddit?
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I've been talking about it in subredditcancer, mensrights, and with mods of about a dozen other subs. I've seen it discussed in pussypassdenied, PPD, advice animals, (obviously announcements) , rooshV forums, Rollo's blog, Paul Elam's podcast, and a few other places.
And I certainly couldn't stop people like you from talking about it where discussion of censorship happens.
ThePantsThief 5y ago
People like me? I subscribe here, man, lol
Loverofalifetime 5y ago
That's a "wink, wink" hint /u/ThePantsThief
Spread the word :-D
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I can't condone talking about it elsewhere. But I can't stop you. ;)
ThePantsThief 5y ago
Oh, I thought you were saying I was in favor of censorship haha
bsutansalt 5y ago
This is the same mentality that's led to the leftist mobs shouting and screaming "Nazis" and "fascists" at plain old fashioned conservatives when they come to campus with no sense of irony be actually being the fascists they claim to be against. They can't comprehend a worldview or ideology that's counter to their own, so they make a moral judgment towards it where leftists = good, anyone else = bad. This is why the unhinged left believes they are entirely justified in being violent towards other political groups.
CainPrice 5y ago
True. Liberal people are extremely dangerous. That's part of the liberal hypocrisy.
The first thing a liberal person will tell you is that Reddit is a private business, and that morality doesn't even matter. It's social media website that the owners are free to run however they want. They can censor and not censor whatever content they please. You don't have rights to use the website. They can even refuse service to whoever they want, and if us stupid Red Pillers don't like it, we can go start our own website. Reddit can go on the way it pleases without us and will be just fine.
But let's reverse the scenario.
If I rented a building downtown and invested a lot of money turning it into a restaurant, and put a bigass sign on the door that said "No Blacks" (or gays or Muslims, or whatever), and refused to serve black people, in theory, that's perfectly legal. Just like Reddit, I can serve or refuse to serve whoever I want. If people didn't like the fact that I refuse service to blacks, they could refuse to come and buy food and eat elsewhere, tell all of their friends not to come, post bad stuff about me online, tell the media who would run bad press about me, stage civil protests, and I'd lose a lot of business due to my no blacks policy. However, if somehow, despite all of this, enough people who liked my food or liked my no blacks policy kept coming and buying food, and I managed to stay in business and make enough extra to pay my home mortgage and feed my family, that should be the end of it, right? I stay in business, albeit with a lot less money that I would have had if I'd abandoned the no blacks policy. Just like Reddit would keep going on without The Red Pill.
But unlike us regular people who will move on and let Reddit be, no liberal would allow a business that had a policy they didn't like continue to exist. If I stayed in the restaurant business touting a policy they didn't agree with, they'd go to their politicians next and try to get everything about my business made illegal. Screw the fact that enough people like my restaurant to keep me in business. My policies and the way I run my establishment is so clearly wrong that it should be outlawed, so they're going to try to get what I do made illegal.
But let's say most of the city council members aren't liberals and don't care, so laws that make my business illegal don't get passed. The government does nothing. Their next step is to get more violent, physically harass and threaten my customers, throw bricks through my window, have hooded thugs jump me on my way out the door, set my house on fire, and murder my family. Because I'm so wrong that my children deserve to die. Liberal people are dangerous.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Actually that's a big fat NO! It would not be perfectly legal. It would violate the public accommodation laws of pretty much every developed country in the world (e.g. the American Civil Rights Act -- remember the lunch counter protests you learned about in civics class).
desi-gooner 5y ago
You are right in that regard but what if a person doesn't go with the name "No blacks" and instead just doesn't serve every 3rd white person. Would the liberals still protest this discrimination? If so, then it would just prove the hyperbole.
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Oculument 5y ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SirKolbath 5y ago
Found the liberal.
Not a coincidence it’s also someone who doesn’t know the first thing about TRP and is trying to justify hamfisted censorship. It’s amazing how these retards try to out tard one another.
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SirKolbath 5y ago
Yep. Liberal all right. About as much self introspection as a macadamia nut.
I’d ask how you reconcile the liberal philosophy of “Make the gummint pay my way” with the TRP concept of “own your own shit”, except that I don’t really have a shit to give about you.
Later, tater.
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redpillschool Admin 5y ago
He doesn't sound angry.
Short-changedChad 5y ago
Sexual shaming instead of an argument. The calling card of a woman who has been beaten in a disagreement- which is essentially what most males on the left are.
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wozniak_slawomir 5y ago
I'd also be more than happy to help with the project. If there's something with ReactJS or NodeJS, I'm into
half-past-five 5y ago
Can also help with Vue, Mongo, Node.
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Fyrjefe 5y ago
I can never get tired of the NPC Wojack meme. It's a great litmus test for finding who is willing to laugh at themselves, or double down and screech louder.
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The_LongJohnDon 5y ago
Typical NPC response.
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redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I suspect these guys can't think past lunch let alone anticipate consequences that may arise hours or days into the future.
RatMan29 5y ago
How do we make some consequences happen to them? Is Reddit publicly traded and a possible takeover target? Or does it have advertisers we could boycott and tell them why, as the GamerGate people do?
TheStumblingWolf 5y ago
They have the autonomy of a chicken going about its business in the pen.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
They haven't even figured out how to monetize one of the highest traffic sites on the planet. They've had years.
The best they've been able to figure is "hey guys, let's try strangling the communities to death. That'll fix revenue!"
These kids shouldn't be anywhere near anything of consequence.
systemshock869 5y ago
Unfortunately they're about to force all non cucked publicly traded companies out of California with their board gender quotas. This is warfare.
RatMan29 5y ago
I predict that some board members will declare new "gender identities" to keep their jobs.
kalashnick 5y ago
This is straight-up 1984 censorship. You have to wake up and see the connection. Unprecedented times these are for the USA.
memphisjohn 5y ago
This is really what reddit wants. To see all free thinkers gone. I wonder how that aligns with their shareholder value requirements but hey that's none of my business.
TempleOfIron 5y ago
As a MGTOW, (won't be long before we too are on chopping block) I'll help all I can with the new forums. Let's make it glorious.
safa61947 5y ago
Godspeed on forums.red. I'm ready to move, downloaded all the sidebar material as well.
Snowpeartea 5y ago
So to get trp feeds. I can still access this on forums.red? I need you guys! Without you guys I have no will to live. :(
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Yes. Forums.Red will be open soon, but in the mean time, chat with others at TRP.RED
blackleaf31 5y ago
We need an attorney to help us write an appeal. The work that has been done is on the right track, but is not thought through.
I could take a stab at it, but I would need to be appointed by the mods to act on behalf of the subreddit.
In any case, we should have one voice on this, and we should do this with a bit more formalism, and not be so half cocked about it.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
An attorney for the kangaroo court?
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
Maybe we should get this all the way to the Supreme Court, where Kavanaugh can write an opinion for the majority that states that sjw corporate tools can't limit freedom of speech on their platforms.
RatMan29 5y ago
If that ruling did come down, it would also mean that our side's platforms, including trp.red, would have to let the SJWs in and let them post as they please. Do you really want to go there? I sure don't.
blackleaf31 5y ago
Actually, yes. Putting your best foot forward in a professional way is a good strategy here.
Let's assume they think poorly of us ideologically. Presenting an appeal that is half baked confirms their disposition. If on the other hand we present a reasoned, thought out, professional appeal, it may not help our chances in the end, but it can't hurt. And I would argue it will help, because they will see a professional, moderated, thoughtful critique.
In other words, advocacy is at its highest importance in this situation, because it is only with great advocacy that we have a any chance of moving forward.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I'm guessing you haven't been around here for long.
The entire premise of this subreddit is that we are in a system that simply cannot tolerate us and will fight to remove us.
We have insulted their ideology. This isn't a matter of drafting up legalese to make it work. They already showed their hand at the beginning. They gave us a false choice. Don't fall for it. The thing standing between us and a reversal is not a lawyer.
blackleaf31 5y ago
You have guessed incorrectly.
If you are convinced the fix is in, then why are you bothering to file any kind of appeal at all? What is the point of a futile gesture?
And if there is a point in it, then why not do it as well as you can?
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
You seem like a smart guy, I bet you can answer some of those questions if you think about it.
blackleaf31 5y ago
The answer I have come up with doesn't make sense given red pill philosophy.
This whole thing strikes me as the equivalent of trying to win back the girl that has rejected us. Not typically advised in red pill.
But let's assume we decide to go against this note of general caution, and try to win back the girl (Reddit).
Do we think we can win back the girl, or not?
If we want to win back the girl, but we are convinced that we can't, but we are going to do it anyway without rational basis, it is undervaluing of ourselves. We are debasing ourselves in a meaningless act of self pity and flagellation for no possible gain. Reddit (the girl) will rightfully take our pointless screed and laugh at us. Which they probably should, given our total collapse of frame of self respect. We are doing it this pointless act, even though we know we can't succeed. That is pathos inducing.
In the alternative, if we want to win back the girl, and we think we can, then we should probably do better then a half baked, angry rant of a gilted boyfriend, and try to do this with some greater deliberation, style, and self respect. We ultimately may not succeed in our goal, but at least we will have given our best, and validated ourselves and our self worth by doing what we believed in to the limit of our skill and talent.
Doing it the way we have so far is not showing the self respect red pill says we are all worth.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
What if reddit isn't the girl?
blackleaf31 5y ago
Well, ask yourself, did they do what they did because 1) we broke an objective rule of the site that has been documented or 2) they are virtue signaling, without indicating any particular wrong doing by us, and are acting based on feels?
So yeah, I think Reddit is the girl in this analogy.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
I think you should look a bit deeper here.
SorbateHead 5y ago
The quarantine is evidence that TRP has struck a nerve deep within the cultural marxist shit hole.
What is most "shocking" about TRP is the truth that is brought into the light of day. "Offensive" only to those who stand something to lose if this truth were to be realized on a grand scale. All they can do is label TRP with all of their buzzwords and triggers to keep whipped men from seeing what's on the other side of the wall.
SlurpTime 5y ago
They will never be direct or clear about this, because if they did, it would mean admitting it makes no sense. They are essentially asking us to stop rattling the wrong cages, which we both know will not happen. We're gonna get slapped with an uncaring ban here soon.
Geronus 5y ago
Well yeah, duh. They know perfectly well that if they commit to any concrete guidelines they'll have a complete shit show on their hands between us subsequently following them to the letter and then pointing out every single instance of subs they don't want to ban breaking the very same rules.
This has nothing to do with any one specific thing we did or said here. There is nothing The Red Pill can do to get out of quarantine because what they really want is for it to stop being what it is, i.e. a collection of inconvenient truths and people willing to speak them.
OracleofFl 5y ago
I think they have no intention of taking TRP off quarantine or banning the subreddit regardless of what the mods do or say. It is like we are on "double secret probation".
RedDespair 5y ago
I don't think the quarantine will ever leave this sub. A small popularity boost could make this one of the top most subscribed subs in reddit.
U/spazzz is afraid that reddit will be known as the redpill site
gELSK 5y ago
// , It's a legitimate concern.
RedPill is toothless compared to what would happen if they attempted to ban some of the gender politics ideology subreddits.
wss5112 5y ago
My understanding is that this sort of practice (by the admin pretending there're rules to be followed etc) is quite common in modern days.
I study law. Quite often in administrative context, governments do all these kind of Reddit practice.
They state the relevant law.
They state they considered the law.
They state how the thing you're seeking is in violation the law.
They state that's why a decision is reached against you.
The formula is simple, show the others that you considered what and you decision is based on that.
The problem is quite often ignored by the rest is the 'rational connection' of the stated law and the arrived decision.
If Reddit admin can specifically point towards something, as representing TRP and the mods of the TRP not acting in accordance with Reddit's community standards, and if the Admin could rationally connect HOW these content and the mods by allowing them to continue to exist in TRP, then problem solved.
But TBH, it's Reddit and those admins are just probably community people, they just do whatever they think fit in their gut, and trying to find some "law" to justify their actions.
It's why men don't initiate arguments with women for the same reason. Most of them just pretend things are arguable and they follow a commonly accepted practice of argument, which is driven by rationality.
Eckersley01 5y ago
I can't seem to comprehend the insistence on remaining where one is obviously not wanted anymore.
All actions/energies shd be geared solely towards relocating.
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beginner_ 5y ago
Cost? Don't underestimate the cost of managing your own site including hosting, traffic, updates, security!!!
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
You may have missed it because I edited in a bit on the bottom of this post. Check out the last section.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
We remain here because men who need this community can more easily find it.
Whenever someone makes a hate-filled anti-TRP comment, guys will inevitably wander over here out of curiosity. Some of those men will be awoken by what they read and become a part of the community.
RatMan29 5y ago
Once we do move, maybe we can get subreddits on similar topics (ie MensRights, PUA) to link to forums.red from their sidebars. That seems more likely than leaving a skeleton site here and expecting it to stay up.
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It happened to me. I doubt I would have found the red pill without reddit.
WolfenSatyr 5y ago
It's not about staying, it's about sending a message. Would you allow a beta-male to chase you out of a room simply because he didn't didn't like you?
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SirKolbath 5y ago
Does the beta male own the house?
WolfenSatyr 5y ago
Does it matter? When you have the choice on how to leave do you leave meekly and quietly or do you smirk, lean in and say "sure thing boss", straighten the man's lapels, and walk out grinning?
SirKolbath 5y ago
Which is exactly what we are doing.
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RatMan29 5y ago
Youtube, Twitter, Facebook, and the other platforms that have been banning people, have become converged. That is, they are controlled by the Social "Justice" movement. When this happens to an organization, all of its previous goals, including making money, become subordinate to, if not completely replaced by, that of rewarding the "woke" and punishing everyone else. So they drive away and/or purge their competent employees, stop producing value, and run themselves into bankruptcy. Then the plague rats (SJWs) will leave the sinking ship and look for other organizations they can ruin.
I hope whoever is running forums.red can keep any SJWs from ever having votes about how it is run. Otherwise this will all happen again.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Interesting profit strategy. Alienate userbase with inconsistent rules and censorship.
All while leaving /r/strugglefucking there for all the advertisers to see.
8 on their front page is "Raped drunk."
Imperator_Red 5y ago
On the second page is a porn acting out the rape of a paralyzed girl in a wheelchair.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
There isn't even a struggle in that one.
Does /u/spez endorse this content since it's not quarantined?
frankreyes 5y ago
spez has been asked many times about why The_Donald has not been banned, and his answer was always along the lines of:
Check out his latest AMA.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
Reddit admins are fucking disgusting humans. They condone paralyzed rape and drunk rape. I don't think the people watching this shit actually even like it. They just graduate to ever more extreme forms of porn because their brain becomes desensitized to regular stuff. Porn is like heroin.
EdmondDaunts 5y ago
Thomas Huxley had a quote: “The great tragedy of science - The slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact”
What I’ve witnessed over the last 20 years with the rise of Cultural Marxism is idealism over reality. And like the synthetic CDOs of the GFC much more leverage in fantasy land can have real world consequences without being filtered througj reason and sense.
We are reaching the peak of the Predator-Prey cycle. All that is left is survival and its related contingency
Imperator_Red 5y ago
We're like the Pilgrims, getting ready to ditch Europe for the new world. If only I could do this in real life too.
saucierlol 5y ago
Here's to hope you can live long enough to be a space colon. I know I'd sign up.
RatMan29 5y ago
It took me a while to figure out your typo. I was visualizing a "space colon" as having a black hole at one end...
saucierlol 5y ago
Not a typo just I thought it is said colon in english as well, I just checked, it's colonist, didn't know that.
RatMan29 5y ago
I think the word you wanted was colony.
[deleted] 5y ago
The new forums.red design looks incredible. Can't wait to hop onto the ark, to be honest.
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Thanks. I cannot stress enough this is entirely because we raised funds to get this done correctly. This is because of the community.
Take a look at the mobile version: http://a.trp.red/files/mobile.jpg
gELSK 5y ago
// , Is there going to be a mobile API?
Also, consider that domain name providers and hosting providers can shut you down, too. What's your safe haven from the safe haven?
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Yes there will be an API for mobile apps.
We have been investing in a free-speech oriented infrastructure, largely in part due to our donations.
We have a free-speech registrar we are moving to and are finalizing terms with a data center as we speak.
Idontsharemytacos 5y ago
Please, let the font size be configurable. I'll be a lot easier to read.
RatMan29 5y ago
On every browser I have experience of (IE, Edge, Firefox, Chrome, Brave) you type ctrl/+ for a bigger font and ctrl/- for a smaller font. Or ctrl/zero to go back to the original size. This should work on all sites. On a Mac you use the "command" key instead of ctrl.
gELSK 5y ago
// , Doesn't your browser allow this already?
JerryLawlerPigFace 5y ago
So basically there will be very little drop off if any between the reddit mobile app and this? It looks awesome.
Are all posts archived as well? Like literally every post from TRP reddit?
RatMan29 5y ago
For what it's worth, the sidebar files don't appear to have made it across onto forums.red. The sidebar is there but click any link in it and you get a 404 error.
JerryLawlerPigFace 5y ago
I’ve experienced the same thing
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Most are. We've been grabbing the highest voted posts every year.
There may be a few very low ranked ones that didn't make the cut.
brontide 5y ago
I feel like we're living the cover of a bad women's magazine.
"If you don't know I'm not telling" and 50 other ways to determined that your relationship is doomed.
slam9 5y ago
Was this really the first response? Weeks of appealing and one BS, 3 sentence, vague dodge of a response?
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
This and yesterday we received
"We're experiencing higher than usual support volume, but want to let you know that we have received your message. If we need to follow up with you, we'll message you here."
slam9 5y ago
Sounds like a bot. Thanks for putting up with these people for us.
abyr9 5y ago
It might be a good idea to ask TRP subscribers to record a short video on YouTube telling how they found TRP and how it changed their lives. The only thing left is to pick the most moving stories and assemble them into a 3 minute video.
That video would be a hell of appeal. Also good for attracting new followers.
DreamHappy 5y ago
So this sub-reddit that men gravitate to learn how to get women to open their legs, but ultimately leads them to turn themselves into real men, is banned. However, all the NSFW sub-reddits displaying women of open legs are allowed wholeheartedly? Speechless!
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redpillschool Admin 5y ago
That MISTER piece of shit to you. Thank you.
The_Pine 5y ago
What is the difference between a sexist and a person that agrees there are biological and societal differences in the way men and women interact with eachother and within society?