The Problem: Tell Me How You Feel Goddamnit!
Now. A very core principle of the Red Pill is that women do not give men they like a hard time.
When they want some fuck, they make it rather easy to come by for you.
And this, for the most part, is true. However, you must realize that not all girls facilitate your lay in the same manner.
I think it particularly necessary to talk about ambiguity. Namely, girls whose feelings for you appear ambiguous.
One of my most major fuck ups as a young blue pilled betacuck was showing my emotions to women. I did this because they never spelled things out for me, so I would pour out my soul to them in order to provoke an admission of interest in me.
As a generally stoic, mysterious kind of guy also having been blessed with good looks, girls almost always showed signs of interest, until I, like a goddamn retard, sputtered out my secret confession of love to them.
When they were unaware of the way I saw them, they were quite evidently interested. But evidence wasn't enough for me. I needed a confession. A statement, if you will, detailing every minutia of their desire, and once I bared my heart, they become disgusted.
I'd done this far too many times before I realized how much it was screwing me over.
What I didn't realize was that I was a tall, agnostic, African American with a bad boy look and a rebel attitude trying to get at white traditionalist Christian girls whose parents would murder them for being in my general vicinity.
They were interested. But they weren't going to go screaming it from their rooftops with a megaphone.
Sometimes there is stigma surrounding you. Maybe you're a minority, maybe she's sworn chastity. Maybe her parents want her to get with that rich man named Jamesson. Maybe being too overt will make her look like a slut (or a nigger-lover.)
There is always something at stake, even if it's just her repututation.
Girls aren't always going to spell it out to you. So making a confession of love to try and drag her own, possibly subconscious feelings out of her is stupidity of the highest order.
In the majority of cases, just keep your damn mouth shut and escalate.
The Solution: Allowance is Compliance.
Don't get this confused with acquiescence. Acquiescence is when someone has no desire to be a part of something, but rolls over for fear of conflict or retaliation. If you had sex with a girl, and she acquiesced, congratulations, you're a rapist.
No, by allowance I mean implied permission.
If she hasn't stopped you from taking her hand and leading her to another part of the venue away from her friends, if she's still sitting across from you and hasn't walked away yet, if you kissed her and she didn't stop you, if you led her to your bed and she went with you into it.
What you have to understand is that if she does not want to be there, she will not be there. You aren't forcing her to do anything. If you took her hand and she didn't want to follow you, she'd have let go of your hand. If you went for the kiss, she would've said something before your lips connected.
A girl who likes you but cannot say so for a plethora of potential reasons will give you implied permission and will offer no resistance to your escalations. Sure, it's scarier this way. You can't guarantee the absence of the sting of rejection.
But this isn't middle school. We don't go "hey, I like you." We certainly don't say "you're absolutely beautiful and amazing and incredible in every way and I want to spend the rest of my life with you."
She will run into traffic to get the hell away from you.
Another foundational Red Pill concept is to listen to a woman's actions, not her words. She may say "we shouldn't" or she may say nothing. If she says anything, (which she most likely won't) it doesn't matter. Her actions will speak plenty.
If she is compliant to you, she likes you. If she isn't, she doesn't.
In the same manner, show her you like her. Use subtle physical escalations. Be calibrated, and escalate incrementally until she stops you. If she doesn't stop you, congratulations, you just got laid.
Be a man and lead her. If she's into you she'll follow you. That's all the admission of interest you need.
totoro_make 5y ago
Usually when they start very enthusiastically going down on me. Oh, and be sure to keep evidence whether that be text messages before/after and or photos/videos of the act. I'd rather get into trouble for recording them then having any sort of metoo or next day regret slutting it up situation. I know women who have done that to guys even though they admitted they liked it at the time.
rodrigosuarez2k1 5y ago
I thought this forum was about TRP. Why do you care if she's interested or not?
nebder 5y ago
You wrote a long post confirming one of the tenets of game. Assume she’s attracted to you and escalate to confirm.
I’d rather get the cheek going in for a kiss than go home wondering if she would have kissed me.
UpperRedSide 5y ago
Absolutely. Rejection is better than regret.
And the post is long because it needed to be. There's nothing wrong with creating a surgical breakdown of a concept many find difficult to understand.
nebder 5y ago
My comment was hasty. I set the wrong tone in my reply.
I forget that until you have the lightbulb moment where all the different concepts required to unplug click and come together, then you are kinda lost and foundering trying to make sense of it all. This breakdown is useful for the man at that stage where he’s still connecting the dots in his mind.
Solid post and writing. Kudos belong where they are deserved.
SirKolbath 5y ago
She can’t tell you how she feels. She doesn’t know herself. It changes every few minutes. That’s why you don’t pay attention to what women say, and you only pay attention to what they do.
tempolaca 5y ago
Lol, wtf. Lots of TRP pioneers were blacks.
UpperRedSide 5y ago
In some circles, especially in the town I was raised, there is stigma attached to interracial, (specifically white/black) dating, such as "once you go black, we don't want you back," or the common act of white people calling white women who have engaged sexually with black men "mudsharks."
As a non-racist who likely doesn't care what color skin someone has, it's probably hard for you to see, but it's still a very real problem.
UnbreakableButts 5y ago
"If you had sex with a girl, and she acquiesced, congratulations, you're a rapist."
Are you implying you're a rapist?
UpperRedSide 5y ago
If a girl didn't want to fuck you but did anyway because you implied there would be consequences if she denied you, that's rape.
I'm sorry, but...when exactly did I say I did this?
TheProphetPhysiquiel 5y ago
This is why it's so important for you to lead the interaction. As you said, lead her around, initiate kino, be in charge of where you go and what you do. When you're just starting to get your game figured out, and you're waiting for an overt admission of attraction, you're going to be disappointed. Whether or not she complies is what you're looking for. Compliance doesn't necessarily mean yes, but it doesn't mean no. It allows you to keep building rapport and keep spitting that flame game.
astrogatorjones 5y ago
This is a really important point. To lead you must take the risk of being rejected. Owning up to the possibility of failure with confidence is what makes you attractive.
warlordchad 5y ago
Great post!
I was thinking about this earlier after responding to the post on she's not interested, because guys could get the wrong idea--just because you don't hear from a girl doesn't mean she doesn't like you.
Sometimes she's actually busy, or you left the conversation/meeting on a point where it wasn't necessary for either of you to say anything.
Perhaps a story is necessary: recently, I pulled a girl from a local bar that's two block from my apt, f-close. The next day she came over and made me dinner--after, more of the same. The next day she flew out to NY.
I didn't text her the next day until she said texted me something to the effect of "last night was fun." Then I responded and we had a little back and forth (responding every few hours) that lasted until Sunday, at which point, she didn't respond to my last text.
QUICK POINT: don't double text, almost EVER. I asked her a question--she didn't answer, so why would I ask her another question? If a girl doesn't text you back, it's either because she: a) is shit testing you, b) is busy, or c) isn't interested. In any of those cases, it's doesn't help your case to text her again... until enough time has elapsed.
I waited until Tuesday night, then sent a text that did not require an answer (this is key--asking a question is by it's nature, needy). But lo and behold, she responds almost immediately. Why? Because women want you to lead. Sometimes they want to see that you aren't threatened by her lack of response, can wait, and then, after enough time, get her to give you her attention again.
Women need to see that you DGAF, but at the same time, are expressing sexual interest and dominance. So just because she doesn't respond doesn't necessarily mean she's not interested. It's about context and understanding the situation. If she declines to hang out or make plans, then yeah, fucking abort.
But she might not be screaming "come fuck me!" from the hilltops as OP points out here, and that doesn't mean you shouldn't continue to escalate.
Psychological_Radish 5y ago
Get real. No one is that busy; you simply aren't high value enough to take priority. Did everyone on this forum suddenly develop amnesia and forget the Brad Pitt Rule? Hypergamy can't afford to let a prime opportunity slip away.
Many girls will still fuck dudes that they aren't that into. If that's all you want and have zero emotional stake in the outcome, by all means, try try again. But don't delude yourself if you somehow 'succeed' through dumb luck.
buttgoogler 5y ago
Oh my god, THIS. I don't know where this comment was when I needed it the most, but this hits home for sure.
Had the same exact situation like a week ago. Gave it a last shot after a week of silence, not actually caring about what's gonna happen and bam -- she answered almost immediately and after some banter and casual flirting, setting up a date was easier than I ever fucking expected.
MilkMoney111 5y ago
Okay just to piggy back on this... I always heard here not to keep trying if the girl is flaking and not texting back, etc.
Well in my case it's usually the main shit test I get. I'm fairly attractive, have a reputation of being a player, fit, what-have-you... so of course girls are going to expect you to chase a bit. The key is to just not care, have fun, don't be desperate. You have to know when you're coming off too try-hardy.
I've slept with women who have flaked the first attempt to hang, have ignored my texts. The main thing I had going for me was frame. I honestly didn't care and it was all entertainment for me anyways. This is why you MUST embrace abundance and NEVER value one specific pussy. Just be fun and casual. If she flakes or ignores, who cares? Text other girls, go out that night and hit up strangers at the bar. Try again in a week or two. If she's cold again well you've probably forgotten about her because you've built up things with several other women in the time being.
Her loss honestly. You were just being polite and nice to invite her in on the fun of your life. If she didn't want that, so be it.
CHIPPENDALESIXNINE 5y ago
If she's not acting interested, it's almost certain it's because she has a potential fuck or hangout session with a guy who has higher SMV. This is why they'll make plans with you at the last minute (if it doesnt work out), or cancel your plans (if it is working out for her). They have a list and everyone in it is ranked. Guys move up and down the list, but if you're not at the top, this is what happens. If you date this girl, you'll likely see trickle truth come out down the road, or find out on your own, that she flaked and was "busy" because there was someone else.
AceMav21 5y ago
Bitches have their faces in the phone all day. They’re never busy.
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Aazaad 5y ago
Wow man. This is precisely the situation going on in my life right now. She doesn't express her feelings, but always comes along without me forcing her in any way. I was about to pour my heart out too.
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Thanks champ!
AceMav21 5y ago
Christian girls will use their “religion” to selectively control men. Any time you’re about to fuck she can plead Jesus and try to get you emotionally invested. Meanwhile most of the will go fuck around with other men.
Also, is this 1970 or 2018. Where tf do you live bro, fucking rural Montana? Yeah there’s some measure of racism out there, but I’m dubious that it works against you to the extent that you believe. Don’t let idealized racism operate as an external locus of control causing limitation to you’re confidence.
UpperRedSide 5y ago
It's not a limitation to my confidence. I'm convinced I could fuck a member of the KKK if I wanted to.
I just have a more accurate view of the race issue since I'm actually inside of it, experiencing it, instead of being a onlooker making conclusions based solely on speculation. How can you call it idealized racism if you would have ZERO way of seeing it, regardless if it exists or not?
You don't see it. I doubt you truly could. But are you telling me that a predominantly white family that has been white for centuries won't bat an eye when they're little girl comes home with a black man? If you say they wouldn't, you are lying to yourself.
In Central Illinois, they notice race. It registers. They don't hate us. But most white parents are neither expecting nor prepared to see their daughters holding the arm of a black guy. You know it. I know it. The girls know it too. We're either fetishized or too different to be an option.
And while that is not sufficient a barrier to stop me from fucking them anyway, it is a very real barrier, it does exist.
AceMav21 5y ago
Meh I’m from Mass that shit is almost non existent here. Deadass at one of these colleges someone vaguely wrote “don’t” in pencil between lives and matter on some make shift BLM sign. The whole college erupted into a giant SJW Nuclear Siren grade virtue signaling circle jerk protest, bunch of morons trying to vicariously experience the civil rights virtue, and get activism points. Fuckin hundreds of people protesting that one subtle vandalism, kid got expelled. You catch more flak for being a white dude here, if you don’t subscribe to that sjw shit.
MrCongeniality1 5y ago
I'm in Mass too; this is the epicenter of liberal virtue signaling and not at all representative of most of the world. Props to UpperRedSide for presenting a reasonable assessment of the impact of race on mate selection.
UpperRedSide 5y ago
But obviously I'm not from Massachusetts. Just because it's non existent there doesn't mean it is here.
Why the fuck do I have to even spell that out to you?
AceMav21 5y ago
Idfk just my frame of reference. Just fuck some white girls if that’s what your attracted to.
self-medicate 5y ago
It’s interesting because on the flip side I’ve heard that you want to be fun to be around and having a good time. So how does one be stoic and be enjoyable to be around at the same time?
UpperRedSide 5y ago
I'm a cool, collected wise ass type of guy. Very sarcastic, unreactive, maybe even a little mean in a humorous, all-in-good-fun kind of way.
Additionally, I've created a habit out of both push/pull and screening (the act of testing a woman for the qualities you like and disqualifying her if she doesn't posses them.)
It puts me in a very powerful social position where the vast majority of girls try to win my approval, make me react, and qualify themselves.
For example, once at my workplace, (I'm a secretary/administrator at an office) a regular had chucked some plastic into the garbage instead of the recycle bin. I kinda gave her this disapproving stare, and then playfully chided her like she was my kid sister. She called me a name, but put the plastic where I said it belonged.
Next time I saw her, she made me very aware of the fact that she had remembered what I said and went straight to the recycle bin.
I was like "that's my girl!" and she let out this little giggle, like the turned on kind, and blushed like crazy.
Another example, at an older job I worked, I'd sit in the break room, no phone, leant back with an ankle on my knee, and just chill. I had this cold, possibly scrutinizing gaze that you'd think would make people stay away from me. Lo and behold, all the girls would take turns trying to chat me up, get my attention, make me react.
They want what they can't have.
I'd say girls want to be around me not because I'm some great entertainer, but rather that I'm a selector and they're in my frame.
MrCongeniality1 5y ago
The word "stoic" in this case is misleading. Have fun, don't put pressure on yourself to achieve some goal (sex) and enjoy the company. If you make a wrong move, just say "cool" and keep having fun at whatever level is working.
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Quaternionz 5y ago
Wish I could upvote you more than once for this post.
totoro_make 5y ago
This.
I can't even count how many times I've carried a girl to my bed with them saying "no, we shouldn't " softly only to be screaming "yes, holy shit" after their pants are off.
Amiksthrowaway 5y ago
When does this ^^ not turn into rape ..? Lol Master class since you’ve got the lay ????????
SimilarHamster 5y ago
"A nigger lover" Lmao Also most African Americans have good bodies
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Radioactivebuny 5y ago
Exactly. Human interactions are all shades of grey.
Good luck quantifying any of that shit. Of course people try and here we are...
halfback910 5y ago
"WOULD YOU LIKE TO FLIRT WITH ME?!"
"YES! I WOULD ENJOY FLIRTATION THAT COULD INVOLVE SOME PHYSICAL CONTACT?"
"I AM MOVING TO APPROACH."
"ACKNOWLEDGED, SUITOR. APPROACH FOR FLIRTATION."
"PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH ELBOW IMMINENT."
"SUITOR, YOU ARE CLEAR TO CONTACT WITH ELBOW. CONTACT ESTIMATED IN T MINUS 10, 9, 8..."
Swear to God, flirting is going to be like landing a fucking airplane 20 years from now.
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omega_dawg93 5y ago
understood & i agree.
my rule: the opposite of give is take.
when a woman implies permission and follows your lead, she's giving herself to you... and as a man, you must (respectfully) confidently take her. women want you to dominate and have your way with them... so do it.
btw fellas... women make choices to fuck guys every day. do NOT ever get mad at another man (regardless of race) for TAKING what is freely & willingly being GIVEN to him to enjoy. if you have a problem with your 'princess' giving herself to any man, that's you not allowing her to show you exactly who she is... and what she is. do not mate guard... let them fuck.
good post OP.
-saltymangos- 5y ago
ELI5 why we shouldn’t mate guard and let them fuck. i’m curious
omega_dawg93 5y ago
smmfh. mate guarding = jealousy which causes vaginas to dry up. it shows that you're worried bc you have no other options but her... and women don't want a man that's not worth competing for. this is elementary shit. develop an abundance mindset and lol at her tactics to make you jealous.
next, mate guarding means you're trying to control her. she can't control who approaches her, but she can control the length of time she gives him. with you away from her in public... if she's making a choice to engage another man that approaches for too long, she's either attracted & getting the tingles... or feels you're so low, you're not worth her public respect. either way, you don't blame the guy; he's doing what a man is supposed to do. ask her, "since you talked so long, did you get his number? i need it to learn some of his lines to attract women." if you're right there next to her and the guy approaches... he's testing you and likely doing it bc he caught her eye and she signaled the approach.
last, think of the guy you know that gets a lot of pussy. the AVERAGE woman gets that much dick, easily. you can't control who she fucks... she's not your possession, and bc of the elasticity of vaginas, you'll never know if she's fucking one other guy or 20... if she has good hygiene.
again... "it's not your pussy, it's just your turn to have it." now, go read the sidebar and don't act like she's the last chance at pussy you'll ever get. she should be mate guarding... not you.
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askmrcia 5y ago
I liked the post and I've been in situations where they look hesitant and act like don't want to do anything and it really does kill the mood.
I'll give two examples, the second one is a story.
One was a catholic girl. It took alot of work to game her, but eventually I got her to come over my house after two dates. After making out I took her to the bed room. She kept saying "we shouldn't be doing this, we really shouldn't be doing this" while giving me a handjob lol.
She was hesitant when it came to undressing her. She never said "no or stop" but she was saying things like "we shouldn't do this, I don't know about this" ect.... And it really was killing thir mood. We did eventually go all the way but I admit it wasn't the best because her saying that stuff wasn't sexy and almost a turnoff.
Seconds example is a story, because fuck does this chick like messing with me and this one was recent. Met her in an art class. I asked her out because when we went out before with others from class for drinks and she seemed flirty. Now it wasn't strong and the IOIs was barely there and I had the hardest time determining if she was just being nice or if she was flirting.
I just said fuck it and asked her out and she agreed. When she got out her car I tried hugging her and she gave me the one arm friendly hug. I'm like "ok".
Went to a few venues and I tried touching her and escalating but she was like not receptive at all. Meaning I would touch her arm, she would not say anything or move my arm. At this point I'm just waiting any minute for her to say she has to go home.
We were back at my house around 10pm drinking beer and vodka of all things. Tried sitting close to her and she would move away or she would go to the bathroom and then sit away from me.
Now it's getting closer to mid night and she still didn't leave. "I'm like wtf?"
She's saying she's sleepy and can't drive home since she was drinking. We go back and forth on where we sleeping at and eventually she's in my bed.
After a few attempts of escalating and no result I stopped. She didn't tell me directly to stop, but it was enough to where I didn't want to keep trying especially since I was no longer in the mood.
Next day she wasn't weird or awkward or anything. She leaves. My birthday was literally two days later. I invited everyone from class out and only two other females in the class expressed that they wanted to come out with me.
Then she actually showed up to the bar for my birthday as well basically surprising me. I can keep going because there were things that happened afterwards, but I spent enough time talking about this girl.
Point is I've been in situations where the girls are too ambiguous and it kills the mood. Though I admit, the second girl I still have no idea if she was interested or she is socially awkward (I got to know her more and she's weird as fuck).
UpperRedSide 5y ago
The first girl is an ambiguous type like mentioned in my post.
The second girl, however, was not ambiguous at all. Did you read the post? You misconstrued it. If she wants you to escalate, she will let you. If she doesn't want you escalating on her, she will stop you. The second girl stopped you. There's nothing ambiguous about that buddy.
Don't turn into a rapist. If you sat by her and she moved away, don't try anything else. Do you want to be accused of rape? When you escalate and she stops you, go no further.
askmrcia 5y ago
No i don't which is why I didn't do anything. And she didn't stop me until I ledgit had her in the bed. Don't know if missed that part in my comment.
My point is though we talk alot here about asd and there's a fine line. Even with the first girl there was still resistance. Personally I rather skip all the head games. The ones who are more foward are better.
The first girl was very similar to the second girl. It took alot of work to game her. I left out details because I wanted to keep the comment short as possible. But the first two dates with the first girl she wouldn't even let me kiss her. And leading up to the hookup as in us having actual sex was not easy. Actually a couple of days before we hooked up she told me she just wanted to be friends.
She was closer to the second girl then you may think. The difference between the second girl was that the first girl just wasn't as flirty, but had you seen us in public you would think she was interested as others in our class did.
UnbreakableButts 5y ago
You're completely right in what you did. This blue-pilled dude who thinks he knows shit doesn't know what he's talking about. Unless it's an actual hard no and they're walking away it's on, they're shit testing you. But you already know this. I have a feeling posts like this will be appearing more frequently, know the difference between a value post and not. Just because it's upvoted doesn't mean it holds value, it just means we have an influx of new wanna be red-pilled betas who think they know enough to post things on here.
askmrcia 5y ago
Aman brother and well said.
Quaternionz 5y ago
The other day someone posted a thread called “When she’s into you YOU’LL KNOW.” I posted the following in reply. I’m copy-pasting it wholesale because it’s so relevant:
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This is generally true. A solid prospect you meet at a bar will often kino you back heavily and then respond to a text later with great enthusiasm.
But there are definitely other girls that it’s not so clear with. They’re passive and they just go with the flow. They don’t IOI you heavily, but they’re down to hang and they don’t flake. They accept your kino, but they don’t ever touch you back. You always text them, they never text you. When you do text them it’s not hard to schedule a hookup. They give you no ASD in bed and the sex is animalistic.
They show no proactive interest at all, but they also put up no resistance.
These girls are actually the hardest to get used to when you’re transitioning into TRP. Betas love women who show a lot of proactive interest and take the lead in escalating the relationship. Gaming girls who are extremely feminine and passive is almost harder, in a certain way, because most men aren’t comfortable taking the leadership role with a woman to quite that degree.
When a beta encounters that kind of girl he just freezes and assumes she’s not interested. “If she was interested I’d know,” he thinks to himself. But she is interested. She’s just expecting him to take the lead, and he has no idea how.
dr_warlock 5y ago
As long as she accepts escalation (ie keeps having sex with you), it's not a problem.
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tubaflub 5y ago
Can confirm, was that beta; Looking back I want to kick my ass so hard.
Geronus 5y ago
Yeah. When I look back in my life at all the times I *could* have gotten laid, sometimes I want to leap through a time portal and kick my own ass.
CainPrice 5y ago
This post highlights one of the larger problems men (especially recovering "beta/blue-pill" men) suffer from: The inability to read subtle signals and recognize when a woman is potentially interested in you, versus when a woman is just being friendly and polite.
Women aren't going to grab your dick, drag you by the shaft behind the bar, and start furiously making out with you. They're going to make eye contact, possibly smile, then go back to talking with their friends, not really caring if you come over or not. (Girls always come with friends. Get comfortable approaching groups.) She sent you the invitation signal, and if you don't come over, someone else she signals will.
When you come over and say something to them, they're going to make eye contact and answer with complete sentences and ask you a question to continue the conversation. These are signals of interest. This is your cue to escalate and see where she stops you. She's not going to touch first. She's not going to overtly and directly flirt. She's going to subtly invite you to do so and hope you do it.
In contrast, if a woman barely looks at you and answers everything you say with two words or less, she's also trying to send you subtle signals - of disinterest. It's your job to pick up on those, too.
If a guy seriously can't tell if a woman is interested or not, follow this post's advice: Allowance is Compliance. Assume it's okay until she stops you. What's the worst possible outcome? Rejection? Rejection is a million times better than sitting around talking to a woman who's not interested. It's not like you were going to talk a disinterested girl into having sex with you and you blew your chance by forcing her to express her disinterest.
MrCongeniality1 5y ago
All of this.
Her signals aren't hard - you are preoccupied with an outcome and are not mentally present in the moment.
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zyqkvx 5y ago
The other side..
A woman will be ambiguous to a guy she's not interested in is because she wants him to pursue her anyway for social proof.
Girl who isn't interested: "I'm not looking to get in to a relationship right now"
Guy: <thinking "she said right now. I need to wait and come in at the right time">
So a month later he flirts with her again at a party. She says something else ambiguous. She doesn't give a fuck that he's a 5. It makes her look good in front of her friends if 'she can't get rid of another lovable loser'. It doesn't matter what he does, it's going to be more social proof for the girl. All she has to do is balance it by laughing at him more with her girlfriends in accordance to how low his SMV is, or that he's simply making a fool out of himself no matter what his SMV is [was], no mater what his HB is. If he went nuts and declared his love to her on a stage in front of the whole high school. She will come out looking good.
UpperRedSide 5y ago
Right but this would have an entirely different outcome if the guy in question was actually doing what is outlined in the post. The man in your anecdote is merely talking. I don't see any leading and I don't see any escalation.
It's impossible to become an orbiter with properr escalation, because when you make a move the girl will either let you, or she'll stop you.
zyqkvx 5y ago
I'm not disagreeing with you in any way, and my point isn't in relation to the situation you spoke of. I thought yours was a great post. My point is related to this topic, not the specific situation. I sort of 'tagged' it to your post because I've been wanting to write that for a few days and it seemed to dovetail with your post, albeit a different piece of the same puzzle going a different direction.
UpperRedSide 5y ago
Fair point. Have an upvote.
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UnbreakableButts 5y ago
I agree. This post is not red pill, this post is trash. I think after the quarantine hit this place has degraded a bit.
buttgoogler 5y ago
Coming from a guy named "no negativity".
TheProphetPhysiquiel 5y ago
lmao "no negativity"
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omega_dawg93 5y ago
funny thing is... rollo just talked about the ability to read clues, both spoken and unspoken, body language etc. no... this sub is not turning to shit.
nobody wants to try and read a broad's mind... it's about reading her in other ways as women communicate covertly in many different ways.
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UpperRedSide 5y ago
If you're sick of reading them, don't read them. No one tied you to a chair and stapled your eyes open.
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UpperRedSide 5y ago
Lol learning how to be a man and lead a woman is blue pilled. Learning not to sputter out your feelings to women like a goddamn sperg is blue pilled. Learning how to stop trying to juice validation out of women and instead going for what you want regardless is blue pilled.
Are you trying to say my post is blue pilled?
You didn't think this through did you?
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UpperRedSide 5y ago
You say my content "wasn't blue pill," but yet you say I am somehow "blue pill." If my content isn't blue pill what in God's green earth told you that I myself was?
You claim to be Red Pilled as fuark, yet you demonstrate an alarming amount of feminine traits, such as trying to force others to behave the way you personally want them to, like an entitled brat, and whining when things don't go your way, like a little bitch.
You act as if you're some great sage of the Red Pill and you have some kind of jurisdiction on how this sub operates. Buddy, you don't have shit.
The femcel subreddit would suit you better.
Quaternionz 5y ago
You’re very off base here. It’s very common for women to be so passive that they do literally nothing to help you advance the interaction. They show no proactive interest at all. The only IOI’s you get from them are passive.
She maintains eye contact. She sticks around you when you’re there. If you touch her casually she doesn’t recoil.
If you tried to kiss her it wouldn’t be totally unreasonable for her to say “Sorry, I thought this was just platonic.” A outside observe might reasonably say “Yeah, look like you were just chilling as friends.”
But 9/10 if she’s doing those things it’s not just platonic, and 9/10 nothing happens because the guy is too much of a pussy to escalate in the era of #MeToo, where men are conditioned to expect explicit verbal consent for every breath they take in the vicinity of a woman.
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Quaternionz 5y ago
Jesus Christ, you’re so fucking dumb. Take your downvotes here as an indication of something.
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UnbreakableButts 5y ago
Preach brother. This thread reeks of blue-pilled boys.