granted we are not just namecalled 'crazy'. we all have our quirks. there's some girls who can live with it fine and harmless. and tell yourselves how impossible it is to get right your standards.

My mom is NPD. Please don't marry NPD women, they dont care about anyone but themselves. That means they do not care about their children.

bsutansalt, this is throw8way0. Enjoy the orangered. It makes a nice change to the red.

Which ethnicities are more prone towards this behavior? I'm assuming white american+black ("african")american women? I've noticed that MANY of them are single in todays age

Can confirm that. One guy that I know, spent 10+ years trying to get a functioning relationship with love of his life that was having a clinically confirmed mental issues. In the end she ended her life on her own, and that almost pulled him on the same path as well.

Choose wisely gents.

Thanks for posting this. I was dating this girl who was taking anxiety pills supposedly because her father died like 2 years ago, I know this was a fucking major red flag but I actually was having a really good time with her and I know she was onto me. One day we went to the pharmacy together, I got some gum and she got the "anxiety pills". I saw the name of the pills she was taking, it was fucking Zyprexa (olanzapine), so me being curious I searched on WebMD and I found out it is to treat BiPolar Disorder and schizophrenia. No shit she was having major mood swings and was sleepy all the time. And the worst thing is that the withdrawal symptoms kind of makes you want to die or some shit like that. I had to cut contact by behaving needy and over texting/calling, which worked out pretty well. I do not want this crazy woman looking for me or blaming me for some shit she will do to herself because what we were having didn't work out.

Too late for me, I had my dick in crazy so many times, I received death threats and what not.

Those are not happy memories, I can't even use them to bate... But on the other hand I'm a little bit crazy myself, so whatever, I guess I had it coming.

Also I came buckets, so YEAH!.

Call my shallow or whatever but I really don't mine fucking a crazy bitch then leaving. I also find their emotional roller-coaster entertaining.

Speakign of which one of my Ex. One minute she would threaten to jump out of the car while we were on the highway causing me to swearv or whatever. A min later she would put my hand on her pussy for me to finger her... All ont he same trip...

The timing of this is really uncanny. I have been in a relationship for 3 years, in the last year we moved in together and she lost her mind. She's definitely sick. She's still very sweet. She's not violent or evil... just not fun to be around anymore. I am torn internally because the decision that seems best for me is really difficult to make. I have been considering writing an asktrp post. On the other hand, I kinda know what the answer is.

Gentlemen please listen to this. After meeting what I thought was the girl of my dreams, I ignored the warning signs. I ignored my friends and family as they voiced their opinion. I should have listened. Now, 14 years later I have spent over 100k fighting in court just to be able to see my daughter. It has ruined me financially and emotionally to the point where I no longer sleep, have severe anxiety and panic attacks.

I just wish I would have listened before she slept (or tried to sleep) with half my friends, lied repeatedly to both friends and cops and told them I was beating her, and now rakes me for as much child support as she can lie to get.

PLEASE take the OP's recommendation seriously.

My dad could always handle the tough things. He was the older brother after all.

He married a woman who had been through things and was pretty damned bi-polar.

Shock therapy was needed.

My life in middle class America was rough growing up with her and her SUPER HAPPY one moment and oddly neurotic the next.

For your kids' sake, and for your own fucking sake, DON'T FUCKING DO IT.

To boot, I probably inherited a lower level depression from her, which sucks ass when it hits.

Her issues made my dad's life harder and made my life rough. Yeah, she did once try to kill me twice in one day. But day to day, you'd never know what her mood would be and home life was never happy, knowing that she wasn't really normal. One more reason to NEVER EVER marry a woman with mental issues.

And one more thing, NEVER EVER marry a woman who has done a shitload of cocaine. I've had my crash test dummies in my life and I've seen what coke does to people's brains. Long term use turns people into the spoiled little fat 13 year old who will blow up at any disagreement while they feel completely self entitled to their insane rage.

Law of Power #10, Avoid the Unhappy and Unlucky.

In this day and age, who doesnt have mental issues? What if the male has BPD? Do women also avoid men with mental disorders?

I'm going to add a counterpoint here: The onus is still on the guys for being susceptible for getting into relationships with a BPD chick.

There are emotionally-secure folks with secure 'boundaries' whom will probably never get caught into all the shit-storm of drama with personality-disordered folks. There is something to note about finding your way with such folks.

The relationship dynamics and a having partner with such "issues" is a lot to say for yourself as well. I'm not here to spur moral imposition, but I'd consider this a point for reflection.

This comment thread should be mandatory reading in middle school during health and sex ed classes.

"Okay class, I'm going to speak to the boys for a second. Girls, please stand up. Boys, look to your left. Now, look to your right. There's a good chance that one of these girls will turn into a crazy bitch."

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This is oh so true. As an ex of someone with BPD, I wholeheartedly agree. Also, as a PSA to any so involved, visit www.bpdfamily.com if you need some support specific to those issues. Trust me, those people have helped me a lot, and can help you too.

So be single or homosexual then?

What about girls who play or condition themselves to be crazy so they can get passes and dissolve responsability? The ones that love to be victims? The ones that pop pills for anything and act like irresponsible children...

I know there are crazies out there, legit ones, but I think most girls need to know that shit aint gonna cut it with you, "get your act together or gtfo, don't start crying because I won't believe it". You'd be surprised, adopting this attitude a couple of times got me rid of the crazy in women. They're like children...

1 in 5 women suffer from mental disorders. So you're saying 20% of women should not be able to be happy with a partner. Considering most people have some sort of mental disorder in their life, including all of you, this is a bit ridiculous and pretentious. Let the downvotes begin because you all have a psychological disorder with having an unachievable, unrealistic goal for your women.

You know what's a really good indication of mental illness? Anti-depression and anti-anxiety pills. I've seen statistics that state that 25% of women will be medicated on one of these in their life. That's 25% of women that just became undateable. Which sucks, but the alternative sucks worse.

Dated a bi-polar girl whose schizophrenic mother offed herself in front of her.

Never has 5'2" 110 been more of a threat to my personal well being.

I dated a bi polar chick on and off for a couple of years. In that time, I had to call the cops three times on her (you know, because society says I can't defend myself against her; it would just look like I beat the piss out of her to the law). Actually, the last of those three, a friend was present and HE called them. Each time, I was put out of the house, not her. As this taught me not to trust the police for domestic issues, I ultimately ended up with a BS charge when she called the cops after one of her blow-ups. The charge is expunged now, but the arrest record isn't. Best sex I've ever had and 100% not worth it. I'd rather fuck a land whale than go through any of that shit again.

Do not date crazies.

Don't date women with aspergers either.

I had dated one for 2/half years and I broke up with her. She was a big baby and couldn't maintain her house in a well established order, was extremely sensitive to what anyone talked about her, had terrible hygiene, didn't know how to be independent, and because each person with aspergers has some sort of obsession, her particular obsession was with comics and animated movies. This obsession was her life. And that's all that she knew. When we broke up, she cried and hated me.

After breaking up, she told her mother and family that I raped her for 2 years. She said: Everything we did sexually was because I forced her into doing it and she never agreed to it. So then I had cops call my house informing me that there is an active investigation taking place against me because of some accusations from her. Of course, there was no proof. But she put a restraining order against me, even though I never wanted to see her again. And now I'm in court fighting it with my lawyer.

Never had an issue like this with any of my former non-autistic girlfriends.

Please add: alcohol and substance abuse issues as well

ex has BPD.... worst experience of my life.

Law #3: NEVER stick your dick in crazy

I think around 20% of all women actually qualify as having borderline personality disorder. If she has tried to kill herself before that rate goes up to ~60% likely of having a personality disorder and if she admits she was abused as a kid it goes up even higher. I think over half the population qualifies for some mental disorder so most girls are crazy. Not all all of them are unmanagable though.

I married into this. I did it because at the time I was so lonely. I just wanted someone to be with. No doubt there is someone reading this thinking as I did and completely ignored signs just because they wanted someone. Trust me, do not ignore sounds just because you want a girlfriend. Things were actually good until we got married, then the super crazy stuff came. When we dated, it was red flags. The very next day after we got married is when it all went downhill. We spent our honeymoon in the hotel room doing nothing because she couldn't stop crying. I just thought post wedding depression was normal.

Then I started getting blamed for things not my fault. But, in her mind, they are my fault because she things it's my job as a husband to stop every bad thing that happens to her. I'm not kidding, I get blamed for everything bad happening to her because she thinks it's the husband's job to stop that.

When it comes to housework, she doesn't do any because, "muh feminism". So, I end up having to do ALL the cooking and cleaning. Needless to say, our place is usually a mess because I'm tired after work and I usually come home to see her snacking on something and she immediately demands that I make something.

I won't get into the biggest details of her yelling at me, demanding a divorce, throwing her rings at me, and then 15 minutes later being told she'll kill herself if I leave.

I don't even react to it anymore. When she calls me a bad husband for not doing anything when she threatens suicide, I change the subject because if I told her that I know she's manipulating me about it, that would start another fight.

tl; dr

I didn't mention most of it, but for you single guys out there:

NO MATTER HOW LONELY YOU ARE DO NOT PURSUE ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH RED FLAGS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS.

I'm an attention whore by nature, and by that nature I've learned from experience all women can be made crazy. In fact, I used to think I bred crazy because where I lived, all women wanted commitment of some sort, and accordingly I played to that market. I became romantic and sensitive, with a good career mixed with brooding and asshole. 80-95% girls enjoyed that, some enjoyed it too much, and wouldn't let go of their self-made plans for commitment.

I disappointed them and it manifested in a lot of the behaviours you'd attribute to legitimately mentally insane people... but all that said... I like obsession. I think its sexy. I also enjoy faux avoiding it. I do it in a consciously planned and controlled manner though. I never take risks.

Here's a secret you should also know:

All women have mental issues.

Can we try to vote this up to the very top of the front page of Reddit? and keep it there?

friend is marrying a girl w/ Border Line PD...lol..

Chiming in with my bi-monthly ex-wife bash.

From the Don't Ignore the Crazy video, she suffered from:

1. Rapid mood swings to include violence - she's only hit me once but the time she hit me was when I called the police when she told me my ex-best friend raped her. I guess I was the crazy one. /s

2. O.C.D. - if I made a wrong turn down a road (we always had GPS on us between our phones and actual GPS devices) then I could expect to be bitched out about it because it didn't go "according to [her] plan."

3. Paranoid when not high - constantly worrying if her cousin was going to call CPS on her, worrying about how bills were going to get paid when she didn't work and spent money on frivolous things (like the $300 I sunk into her going-nowhere business).

4. Self harm - Not only self-harm, but self-harm to resolve relationship-ending arguments. Before the wedding I wanted to break up because of how crazy she was being. She ran to the bathroom and started cutting. Two other instances where I wanted a divorce and she started cutting.

5. Gets insulted all the time - "Someone made a blog post about fat women, I must rip them to shreds!" For the record, she's about 5'6" and was about my weight at the time (250~ lbs). Any kind of attempt my mother made to improve her mothering skills (such as, play with them, acknowledge their existence, try not to let them swallow a bottle of children's Tylenol) was a bitchfest in my ear for an hour. She couldn't take criticism. Neither can I, but I don't blow up on people like she did. Mine is more of an implosion than an explosion.

6. Excessive needyness - I was trying to finish up school when I decided to get a divorce, but before that, during my classes, she would constantly text me, asking when I'd be home. From 6 PM to 10 PM, nothing but whining and nagging. And if I did stay somewhere later than I had originally told her, that means I was cheating on her. I went to see a divorce lawyer and came home 3 hours late. Granted, an excessive amount of time for no-contact in a marriage (especially during rush hour) but it wasn't an instant jump to "stuck in traffic". No mention of "did you get in an accident". It was "you smell like cookies, who have you been fucking?" And when I told her no one, which was the truth, she made up a story about me talking in my sleep and incriminating myself. Which leads into...

7. Pathological deception - Lying was this bitch's middle name. She would lie to everyone she knows but then tell me "oh, I would never lie to you", which was, in all ironic glory, a lie. Too many fake pregnancies to count. Said my ex-best friend raped her. Made up two internet personas, one to scare the everloving shit out of me (for no reason) and the other to sleep with an old friend of mine. She lied to our former roommate (ex-best friend) by saying she washed all the dishes by hand so he should clean up the rest of the house. After he did so, she informed me she lied to manipulate him and she actually fixed the dishwasher.

The consequences I faced were:

1. Delusional pregnancy - she tried to lie and say she was pregnant when she knew there was something up with me (hell-bent on divorce).

2. Manipulation - As evident from the above line items, she was lie-friendly. So many manipulation tactics that would allow her to have her cake and eat it too. Wanted to have sex with my best friend? "Oh, he raped me and I was quiet about it for months." Create a fake Facebook persona to try to fuck my best friend? "Oh, it was one of my exes playing pranks!"

One thing he failed to place on that list of consequences was financial ruin. I'm not ruined, by any stretch of the word, but my wallet definitely took a hit. A year of close calls and maximum frugality. While I have suffered only two of his consequences, a couple others could be down the line.

1. Accused of rape - She'll do it to my best friend, she has the ability to do it to me. Might get a letter a couple months from now saying I need to appear in court for alleged rape. Even though I've blogged about turning her down on sex.

2. Paternity test - She's already pregnant with her third kid (y'know, because she handled two so well) and I'm waiting for the moment I get a letter in the mail saying I need to submit a paternity test. Doesn't matter that I haven't seen her in 10 months, she'll lie about the date or say that I paid her a visit and claim it's mine. Can't wait to get a vasectomy so I can avoid this unneeded shit.

3. Destruction of property - I work close to where her cousin lives and aunt works, and I'll be moving closer to work early next year. There's a good chance they can recognize my car, driving around my neighborhood and wreck it. But that's all paranoia at this stage.

4. Ass kicked - Probably the most likely one. Judging from what I've seen her spew out of her mouth to the rest of her family, I've been reimaged as a monster. She's made no mistakes in their eyes and I'm just a family wrecker. Selfish, greedy family wrecker. No doubt she'll projectile vomit this horrendous lie to the wrong person and I'll meet the wrong end of a steel-toed work boot. Which could lead to #6 - Severe injury, or (hopefully not) #7 - Death.

Don't ignore the signs, guys.

Can confirm. I also have some additional evidence for the jury, the "Bettie Page Reveals All" documentary: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1776086/

Every guy she was with said she was very good at sex, but damn she was bat-shit crazy. Can't really blame her too much though, she had a really shitty childhood. It's the girls that emulate her that I would worry about though.

My first gf in high school was bi polar and turned schizo. Nope never again. Oh wait I've done it multiple times

Don't most (if not all) of them biologically have mental issues?

As a woman with severe OCD (currently being medicated), I disagree with this. Yes, some mentally ill people can be abusive/bad partners in a relationship, but not all people who are mentally ill are so.

My fiance of a year has seen me at my lowest, do we have any relationship problems? No. Please do not generalize.

I married a bitch like that and then got out, worrying for my personal safety. I ignored the Ted flags and paid dearly.

One thing to add is chicks with daddy issues.

Although I generally just drop over here for a laugh I have to back this one up. I would also advise women not to marry guys with "a history of violence" or other mental issues.

Don't stick your dick in crazy.

Man, that's a serious limit on the dating pool.

How about if you suffer from depression? Sometimes I think if it's morally correct to date someone that has issues.

Finally I can say the truth here without getting shot down — it's best not to associate with women who have mental health problems And Or medicate themselves with drugs used in its treatment (eg Xanax).

The reason is simple: it's a disorder, think of it like fat girls. We're repulsed by fat girls, because who really wants children with the complications a fat woman brings to them? Same thing with the crazies, society today loves to romanticise mental illness and be very accepting of it, but the truth of it is if you yourself are mental well adjusted, then you shouldn't settle for less.

The stats show that females suffer from mental illness twice as much as males in basically every category. Medications for mental illnesses don't actually solve the problem, they just cover the symptom. It should be a huge red flag to hear a girl is popping pills for her mind/mood as it indicates an inability to solve the root problem and instead just patch on top. Bear in mind yes some people are justified and have had bad experiences in the past, but the world isn't fair and you should stay away from them no less.

Also a past containing mental illness is also a no go. Girls don't seem to have mental stability these days (I chalk it up to neuroticism and social media but that's just me) so if she was crazy in the past, you bet ya that when the going gets tough it'll resurface. The hamster would love to operate under the guise of a mental disorder, it's basically a free socially acceptable ticket to no accountability. You might think, but if a guy had mental illness in the past and got over it are you saying he's a step away from relapse? Nope. Men are much mentally stronger and stable these days, just look at the stats if you don't believe me. We have the tendency to make deeper change and not be slaves to faulty tendencies, so when a man changes he really changes but a woman's change is more flavour of the month.

Hope this helped someone, but just to reiterate

you have every right and should act on it: don't associate with crazy

And just to hammer home the point of why you shouldn't get into relationships with women with mental issues, mental illness qualifies for at-fault divorce! If you can legally divorce someone who's bi-polar, BPD, etc, what's that tell you about them being relationship material to begin with?

Is this for reals? If this is the case then I will revise my previous declaration that marriage counselling and shrinks are useless... Just get her diagnosed as bipolar or some shit and you can get an at-fault divorce and probably leave with your shirt on your back instead of losing half of everything.

This is something we should be letting men in marriages that want an exit strategy know so they can form a better exit strategy that leave them with less divorce rape to deal with.

Tried dating a chick who is bi-polar/severely depressed. Absolute nightmare.

TL;DR - Never stick your dick in crazy.

Dated a girl who suffered from anxiety and depression. Beginning of relationship she was completely fine and I never would have guessed she suffered. As soon as she became comfortable she used the anxiety and depression as a crutch and an excuse for everything.

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Throwing out some info from something I wrote before:

Every man needs to be educated on this topic, because it could save his life.

Speaking from experience with BPD women, and the occasional man, this mental disorder can be summarized as follows: broken emotion-whores who get off on manufactured drama, hurting others, and manipulation to an extreme degree.

Most men are naive and delusional about the rancid pit of darkness that is the heart of BPD women, who are roughly equivalent to (though not precisely) male psychopaths. It's an underexplored topic. We know how dangerous male psychopaths can be, but we rarely consider how dangerous a BPD female can be when she gets her claws into an unsuspecting victim.

Here are two must-read articles. (I've never visited these blogs before so can't speak for the rest of their content.)

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/29/1251025/-Borderline-Personality-Disorder-Heroic-Martyr-or-Emotional-Vampire

http://illimitablemen.com/2014/02/17/lucifers-daughter/

You'll know the BPD creature by its theatrical emotionality, breathless incoherent and contradictory accusations (a projection of their own misdeeds usually), and endless lying and "gaslighting" (trying to make you feel like the crazy one).

I bet plenty of you have experience with them.

They get off on the self-righteous abuse of others, they have a deep craving to exert power by hurting and controlling others, and a craving to feel like a poor widdle innocent victim despite being the architect of all the drama and generally being a massive insufferable thundering cunt. Thankfully such wretched toxic monsters are rare, maybe 2% of the population, roughly around the same frequency as male psychopaths.

Just literally ended it with my chronically depressed ex. I really needed that push. Fights every day. The fuck I need that shit in my life for. I've got a mission to continue.

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I'm going to share with you guys my experience with crazy in a LTR (lesson learned LONG before coming to TRP.)

Things started out great. The sex was wild and lasted for hours at a time. In the heat of summer I would have to flip the mattress up on the bed for a couple of days and sleep on the couch after she'd been around to let the pools of sweat dry up. It wasn't uncommon to break for a drink or have a water bottle on hand those nights.

After a period of months we got serious with each other. Six months after that, I stopped enjoying the sex. Shortly after that, I tried to slow the sex up. This did not go down well. Screaming matches ensued.

Yet somehow, I still found the passivity to move in with her for a while. Don't even ask me why. I regard this as the largest mistake of my life to date. I lost my job at the same time, and she assumed financial control of the situation. I turned to videogames in an effort to ignore her, and used to masturbate in secret in the hopes I wouldn't be able to crack an erection that night.

Of course, this was found out, and instead of being shamed for porn watching, it became a shared interest. Things got more explorative (role playing, costumes, watching porn together) and the sex life improved dramatically for a short while. But my interest quickly petered out again.

Her frustration began to build, and it turned into violent outbursts. She used to hit me so hard she'd bruise her palms, then hit me some more because apparently it was my fault. One night, I actually refused her sex in the middle of one of her tantrums. I rolled over and dozed, not moving until I felt a sharp pain on my arm.

She was a self-harmer as well, which was something we'd discussed and I thought she'd buried - literally as well as emotionally - before I moved in with her. I sat up and blood saturated my upper arm and t-shirt. She freaked and grabbed tissues. I have a scar just under 10cm long from that, and it still makes me queazy to think about it. It's the largest scar I have, which includes operations, animal attacks and misshaps with barbed wire fencing.

The worst part is I covered for her ass by saying I rolled onto an exposed blade that must have been left out from unpacking a box.

Moral of the story: Don't stick your dick in crazy.

I knew someone who dated a women, knew she was crazy (some combination of schizophrenia with psychotic breaks), married her. She can't hardly hold a job, and at least a few times she's driven across country to see her ex. Her ex hates her, once she showed up at his work, would not leave. followed him home, attempted to break into his apartment. Psycho shit. She's got her mental issues under control now though, she's a 10/10 now but I don't think it's worth it to get into a bad relationship with the intention of trying to fix the other person.

Don't stick your puddin' pop in crazy.

BPD - Not even once. It's basically proof that the devil exists.

Long before The Red Pill it was well known that you don't tap crazy. The converse for the women is usually called abuse. Same thing.

Speaking as a guy with bipolar disorder type I, there's a big difference between someone who's managing their disorder well and someone who is not. If they're taking care of themselves with proper nutrition, sleep, exercise, sun, meditation, meds, etc., then it could be many years before you even see them have any serious symptoms often due to very stressing circumstances that would throw anyone for a loop (although of course not as bad as we have it). We're at least worth dating if everything else is in order. I don't think anyone is worth marrying, bipolar or not.

I agree that if someone has a mental illness and they're not taking responsibility for it, then run and don't look back. But don't completely write off everyone who is diagnosed even if those of us who manage it well are a minority. You could be missing out on a wonderful person.

That guy couldn't spell anything right if his life depended on it, for fucks sake.

Also: drug addicts. Ruined my early life.

what a horrible meme video, I hope it's not yours

I went in expecting arguments or discussion material and every two seconds it's a classic dumb youtuber edit with LOUD NOISES

After reading this I feel obligated to share this link here:

http://illimitablemen.com/2014/02/17/lucifers-daughter/

It basically sums up everything you're saying in excruciating detail. Don't forget the gaslighting, that's a huge flag, in fact it's the only flag you need to GET THE FUCK OUT.

So in other words, stay single.

Any one have experience with a Highly functioning autistic

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