That's why you don't base your life around fucking as many women as possible. The point of TRP is to detatch from the need to sacrifice your self respect for a woman or women.

Personally, my body is my temple. Just like I am picky with what I put in it, I am picky with who I put it in.

welcome to the Tinder generation

No worries bro, herpes is a variant form of Chicken Pox. The worst that could happen is break outs, and there are meds for that. HSV-2 is a bit more aggressive, but I think it's just the stigma that you got an STD. The truth is half the population has a form of it. You are almost required to get chicken pox when you are younger. Think of it as rite of passage, cause seriously, you can get HSV-1 from your great great aunt when she kissed you as a little baby. How silly is that?

Unmarried Women between 40 and 50 have a 70 percent infection rate.

DR. LEONE: So if you look at some population-based data in the United States and look at unmarried adults, meaning folks between the ages of 45 and 50, for women, we know the prevalence rate for genital herpes due to HSV-2 is between 50 and 70 percent. So we’re looking at close to the majority or the majority of folks in that age group who are single having genital herpes. So…

FLATOW: Let me go over that number again because you’re saying that – it’s hard to believe – you’re saying that for women between the age of 40 and 50…

Dr. LEONE: Right.

FLATOW: … unmarried women?

Dr. LEONE: Yes, unmarried women.

FLATOW: You’re saying that between 50 and 75 percent of them have herpes type 2?

Dr. LEONE: That’s exactly right. Yeah.

FLATOW: Wow.

Dr. LEONE: I know. It causes me to pause. I read the article about five times myself, saying, wow, and I do this for a living.

http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2011/04/latest-genital-herpes

I feel like my username is finally relevant, but I have nothing relevant to say...

Spinning plates is dumb as shit imo. Why risk your well being just for fucking sluts? Rest assured if a woman is okay with short term hookups, you are one of the many she's done it or doing it with.

Get a hot clean woman and manage a ltr with her.

For those trying to give condescending advice like "TRP isn't just about just fucking girls. You should've known better," go fuck yourself. This is a hard thing to post about, and him doing so will hopefully help other guys be more wary when fucking sluts. Appreciate his honest, it took balls. And get off your high horse.

Herpes is not a big deal. I got it as a kid from being kissed by my grandma.

It's rampant enough and the symptoms harmless enough that the energy it takes to avoid it is not worth it.

I get a cold sore on my lip like once a year or two. Half the time I notice it put some zovirax on it and it goes away. Otherwise it's like a bad pimple that lasts a few days. Omfg, kill me. What a big deal.

The stigma around STD's is mostly bullshit. If you want to pretend you're in a higher class than humans with them.. then have fun fretting about it. In general, it's a tiny nuisance and more than worth being able to relax about having sex with people.

HIV is another matter of course.. but is mostly irrelevant as it's generally communicated through homosexual sex.

I had one other STD which was genital warts. I got some, had some frozen off, and then they stopped coming. Since (6 or 7 years), I haven't had anything. These things tend to go away most of the time.

Does somebody know about STD's that are asymptomatic? How to protect yourself against it? Do only blood tests reveal those diseases?

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Ok so you're a dumb beta and you get married and your wifey is a hoe and fucks other guys. End result ? You still get herps even without spinning.

Honestly just hope you're one of those people with no outbreaks... the viral shedding really IS pretty much a longshot on people who don't get outbreaks... more likely than not this girl gets outbreaks and just didn't think she had one at the time... the virus sheds in the days before an outbreak and that's probably when you got it... during the prodrome...

anyway, best of luck herpes has a shitty stigma but if you don't ever get outbreaks it shouldn't change your life that much... if you get them rarely you have to morally decide if you're still going to have risky sex... I think male --> female transmission is a LOT more rare since the shedding is usually only at the site of the blisters and that's usually on the penis and that's pretty covered by condoms.. but nobody wants to be the guy who gave somone the herp

I'll probably get downvoted for this (and as far as I know, I don't have it myself, but it is certainly possible), but herpes is not a big deal. At all. In fact, you almost certainly had HSV-1 (which can be, but isn't as often genital - it usually infects the lips) before contractng HSV-2. You say 50%, but I've seen estimates of 80%-90% as well. Hell, if the rash on your junk is herpes, it easily could be HSV-1 from a girl that gave you a blowjob.

The vast majority of people are asymptomatic, if you have sex with more than about 5 partners you should pretty much assume you have a good chance of having it/have been exposed to it, and STD tests do not catch it unless you pay for a very expensive one.

For people who are symptomatic, typically the symptoms go away between 2-4 breakouts (which is not the horrorific rash people typically mention, but maybe a slightly itchy, tiny bump), and just don't come back unless you have a weak immune system (very elderly, or let's say you went for weeks with low sleep and tons of stress on a major project).

As far as I can tell, accusations of herpes are mostly ways for girls to keep other girls in line. The only reason it is, "scary" is because it's "uncurable" - because tiny viral reservoirs can exist in your body - your "viral load", to use an HIV term can be basically completely nil, with no chance of infection for anyone, and you've still got "herpes".

You probably also have HPV (and if you don't, you likely will).

Getting minor STDs is a risk you take when you decide to play this game. This is really not a big deal.

This will probably be hated advice but here it is:

Neither men nor women get tested for herpes. It isn't a big deal (compared to the freakout), most people have some form of it (HSV-1 can be genital, and HSV-2 can be on your lips, they're just more common in the other location), doctor's know that, hence the lack of testing for it (and the fact that it's expensive). Everyone acts like it is a big deal, but nobody truly cares. Getting yourself tested and disclosing your, "status", like an HIV patient basically plays you like a fool. You'll just end up scaring girls away from you who will then hook up with guys that have probably a near-equal chance of having herpes (which is going to be the men who have the most partners and who are the most sexually active - i.e. Chad Thundercock).

So if you want to reduce your sex life to shit, while not reducing the risk for anyone around you, go ahead and tell every girl you'd otherwise fuck, have them run away to fuck Herpes Chad, and only fuck girls on herpes websites (think about the caliber of a girl that is defined by her herpes - that's her thing. A normal girl would hamster it away or far more likely, just not get tested).

Otherwise, this is not a big deal. Don't fuck a girl while you're symptomatic (which I can't imagine would be pleasant anyway), and wait until your symptoms go latent, at which point your chance of infecting someone (with what is probably an asymptomatic virus) is virtually zero. They should mostly be cleared up within a year or two at the absolute worst.

Another aspect of HSV that most people don't realize is that with the increase in oral sex, there is also an increase in prevalence of HSV-1 on the genital region and HSV-2 on the trigeminal/facial region. As someone who has worked in a clinical scenario where HSV1/2 titers were tested regularly on married and unmarried men and woman of all ages, I can tell you that most people (<80%) have been exposed to HSV-1 which shows positive on their bloodwork, and about half of those have titers suggesting active recent infection. Like you said, some people have an immune system that completely prevents viral shedding and sores, other people have frequent outbreaks. Many things influence outbreaks such as stress, diet, etc, but that's for another post. Most people are shocked when you tell them they have HSV-2. Of the positive HSV-2 results I have seen, most were woman. The only active HSV-2 infections I have seen were in woman. I know this is only anecdotal evidence but worth noting.

I'll leave you with some data from the CDC.

Herpes Simplex Virus

Case reporting data for genital herpes simplex virus (HSV) are not available. Data on initial visits to physicians’ offices for this condition are available from NDTI (Figure 53, Table 45).

National trend data on the gender-specific seroprevalence of HSV-2 among those aged 14–49 years from NHANES were compared across survey years 1988–1994, 1999–2002, 2003–2006, and 2007–2010 (Figure 54). Overall, HSV-2 seroprevalence decreased between 1988–1994 and 2007–2010, from 21.2% to 15.5%.20 Among non-Hispanic white females, HSV-2 seroprevalence decreased from 19.5% (1988–1994) to 15.3% (2007–2010; P<0.001); HSV-2 seroprevalence remained stable among non-Hispanic black or African American (hereinafter referred to as black) females, from 52.5% (1988–1994) to 49.9% (2007–2010; P=0.1). These data, along with data from NHANES survey years 1976–1980,21 indicate that blacks had higher seroprevalence than whites for each survey period and age group.

Although HSV-2 seroprevalence is decreasing, most persons with HSV-2 have not received a diagnosis. The overall percentage of HSV-2 seropositive NHANES participants who reported never being told by a doctor or health care professional that they had genital herpes did not change significantly between 1988–1994 and 2007–2010, and remained high (90.7% and 87.4%, respectively). However, an overall increase in the number of visits for genital herpes over time, as suggested by NDTI data, may indicate increased recognition of infection.

http://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/stats.htm

Honestly in asian culture herpes is not a big deal, and it should not be. I think it is mostly westerners being silly. Think about it, it is just a skin condition of sores, when your immune system is weak. It does not kill you, or harm you in an real way. It is not HIV.

This is why I tend toward inexperienced chicks. I still go bar hoping with my buddies on occasion but I'm not even sure I could manage to get it up for some of the burnt out 1000 cock staring skanks I see at these places.

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Thems the risks.

TRP doesn't have good advice on CAUTION and avoidance of danger. only to seek pussy at any cost, while painting it as a side-effect of self-improvement.

That's the price you pay.

I'm extra cautious with who I hook up with and prefer to get lots of sex with the same clean woman instead of lots of strange women who most of which will have herpes or something else curable but still a pain in the ass.

So what's the solution to this problem, fuck hookers because they get STI checked?

What I'm worried about is another disease like AIDS popping up. That's how AIDS originally came into being - unexpectedly. People were having sex and spreading it, not knowing that it existed. All it takes is another major unknown bug to arise. The next one could spread via heterosexual sex.

You ever notice how the Red Pill response to everything is "spin plates?" It's good advice.

Like most new TRP readers, you took it out of context. Spending all your waking hours chasing as many women as you possibly can is a waste of your precious time, and filling a void with worse shit. In case you still don't get it, TRP'ers will say to better yourself above all. You heard the usual "go lift" - think about it as it has profound meaning. Instant gratification is never a good thing, even though it seems like a good idea at the time.

words of advice: Your life isn't over, this shit ain't done. TRP is all about bettering yourself, and herpes is no different a bump on the road than getting cocked blocked. And yes, condoms DO protect, but again, only if you use it correctly.

Consider L-Lysine pills, they are the antagonist (increasing one lowers the other) of L-Arginin which the virus uses as essential building block to replicate.* L-Lysine is a ammino acid, so there is practically no overdose which means you can lower L-Arginin to the very minimum.

This is also a way to lower the risk of prevention (like condoms) if you spin plates, but for this to be effective you need much higher dose (3-5x) than the nutrient recommandation on the bottle for "normal use" to make sure you start "L-Arginin" level when the virus hits your body is really low - In this context I am also highlyyy recommanding HPV immunization also for men!!!

*Same approach with using HIV medications (protease inhibitor) as prophylaxis, but this quite over the top if you are not surrounded by it.

A data point on how much nasty goes on in the world. I read on a Doctor's forum about a patient with HSV-2 around his colostomy hole. Not only that, Someone with herpes paid to hit that shit.

Will be extra kind to my long-term plates this week.

Damnit. There's already herpes dating sites? I thought that was my million dollar idea. Back to the drawing board.

Yep. I got chlamydia off a bitch who "always uses condoms". She was supposed to be an LTR, fuck that.

ummm, dont get tested for herpes. if you have it, theres nothing you can do anyway and you'll probably just get stressed out. And all your life you might have to tell all your partners before you fuck them. All this even tho its very unlikely to affect your health in any meaningful way.

but if you get tested and you DONT have it, then nothing will have changed.

So just assume you dont have it and be happy since nothing good can come from knowing.

science will figure something out in the future anyway. probably in our lifetime.

test for the other shit tho

Herpes has a huge stigma, mostly from the TV commercials in the 90s, I believe. I caught a strain from kissing a girl. I haven't been tested yet but I plan on it once I get out of monk mode. When I confronted the girl about it she told me she thought it "wasn't a big deal" to get cold sores. I was pissed off and I'm still pissed off about it. &nbsp;

How many of those 19 women asked you if you had any STDs? Did the girl you slept with inform you that she had it before she gave it to you? Do we as men have to hold ourselves to a higher standard? &nbsp;

Lots of high and mighty TRPers on here casting blame. A lot of the commenters act like you'll be able to spot it because the chick will be foaming at the mouth with a needle coming out of her arm. Guaranteed some of these commenters have a strain and don't know it.