TLDR: Beta male engages in gangbangs with his wife, allows his wife to cuckold him with Chad
We've been married 3 years but have been living together as a couple for about 11 years. We met right after high school, became instant best friends and were each others first significant relationship and sexual partner.
My guess it that means he was a virgin and she wasn't. She probably also sucked a lot of cocks in high school and slept with a few guys that are "insignificant" AKA "don't count".
No real complaints but if anything we might have gotten a little too close and comfortable around each other, like an old married couple that knows every story and anticipates every reaction.
I bet that means he allowed her to fatten him up to make him a better beta provider. He failed to give her dopamine rushes and excite her.
We'd always been open about our kinks and decided to try out threesomes a couple years back to spice things up, it was with strangers at first and then friends as we got more comfortable. Everything was fine, it was just something we did for fun 2-3 times a year and it did bring back a lot of the passion but everything got really fucked up this last time.
Threesomes (MFF) or gangbangs (MFM)? My guess is his kinks were something mild like a little bondage, while her's were gangbangs, and she hamstered in her mind that since they were exploring each other's kinks that the two are somehow equivalent and therefore hubby should allow her to fuck other men.
The guy (friend of a friend we'd known for just a month prior)
Let's call him Chad.
was too shy to preform around me and was visibly distressed about it so I decided to give him some time to adjust, I went in a different room and gave them space. I didn't expect it to bother me but it kinda did, I could see them getting along really well in the days after and that just made it worse. I got snappish when she talked about or texted him and asked her not to meet him without me around after she mentioned getting lunch with him. She wanted to do another “threesome” with him and I dragged my feet but she set it up anyway then told me he still needed more time, aka it was just going to be the two of them again. I swallowed my pride and said nothing but snooped her phone while they went to it, I found out they'd been meeting for lunch regularly (after I'd told her to stop) and had sex several times at her workplace.
Next morning I confronted her about it and she wasn't really apologetic, she just told me it was no big deal but when I pushed her about it (and we argued quite a bit) something broke, all of the sudden she wasn't sure she still loved me. Said she felt something with him she hadn't with me in a long time. I couldn't deal with it all and told her to leave, luckily her parents lived nearby and we don't have any kids so that wasn't a problem.
So Chad and wifey manipulated hubby into leaving the room so the "threesome" turned into private 1-on-1 primitive fucking while hubby jerks off outside the door to her moans when Chad got his Thundercock up and fucked her brains out.
Now she's an alpha widow because she realized that beta hubby disgusts her (he has so little respect for himself that he allowed himself to be cuckolded.) He disgusts her so much, in fact, that after some trickle truth, she admits she doesn't love him anymore and has cheated on him with Chad.
After a month of separation, resentful shouting, remorseful texts and crying, she still doesn't think she loves me anymore but wants to come back to our life together and “see” if those feelings come back. As far as I know the other guy left the picture immediately, she did try to get with him after (and hid that fact for a while) but he didn't want any part of our drama.
She leaves hubby for Chad, but surprise! Chad won't commit. OP says that as far as he knows, the other guy "left the picture immediately". That's some more trickle truth right there. In reality, during that month, she banged Chad quite a few times but he won't commit because he knows what kind of girl she is: not LTR material. She doesn't cry because she feels bad about what she did to OP. Remember, she was unremorseful and unapologetic. She's crying and remorseful because she's scared of losing her beta provider when her plans to turn Chad into a provider failed.
I don't know what to do or how to feel myself, it's all happened so fast. Part of me is happy to have her back in any form but I also feel like I've been cuckolded and walked all over. Without her I was sad but I felt strong and resolved for finding someone else, now I just feel weak and find myself doing/saying anything I can to please her. If I could snap my fingers and have my old girl back I would but I don't know that I can ever look at her or myself the same even if this trial period work out.
Talk about a severe case of one-itis. He still believes in the Disney prince/princess happy fairy tale ending so he's going even more beta than before in order to "win her back". She's an alpha widow now; damaged goods. Fortunately, they don't have kids so he might not get divorce raped if he cuts his losses and bails now.
tl;dr: Had what I thought was a perfect "adventurous" relationship but a threesome got too serious for her. I felt cheated on and she got confused, says she doesn't feel the same about me after but wants to continue living together and to see if the love comes back. I'm heartbroken, resentful and confused as what to do. Any advice?
She wasn't confused bro, she knew exactly what was going on. Chad gives her the tingles and you don't. His title ("11 year relationship (29M/29F) nearly broken after a threesome got out of hand") shows that he still doesn't get it. It didn't fail because of the threesome; the threesome was a symptom of the problem and not the problem itself. Your relationship failed because you were too much of a beta. Open your mouth, it's time to swallow a little red pill we have for you.
Lessons Learned: Same old shit. Hypergamy is AWALT, don't get one-itis, don't get married period, don't commit to a slut, beta behavior disgusts women, get in shape and lift.
Reddthrown 10y ago
I swear, each time I read r/relationships, it's like reading a field report on TRP.
48LawsOfFlour 10y ago
Every time someone mentions this I click over and, invariably, they're still correct, x hours later or x days later. Right now it's a topic about a woman only being attracted to OP after he got money.
SnoopKittyCat 10y ago
r/relationships taught me that couple therapy can solve any kind of problem, it's quite fantastic :)
_newbeginnings_ 10y ago
Lmao nothing like letting it out to a stranger and expressing your emotions while growing together as a couple...
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Of course, men are wrong, and they don't want any disagreeing with that
totorox 10y ago
But we're not "men" according to them. We're all sorts of labels designed to decredibilize us.
max_peenor 10y ago
Other subs say we try to recruit for TRP. No. We don't.
But r/relationships does...
Thizzlebot 10y ago
We don't need to recruit lol we are over 100k of people that found this path themselves.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
The irony is that recruitment is actually discouraged (first rule of Fight Club). That just goes to show you how little people outside of our community actually understand what TRP actually is.
mister_barfly75 10y ago
We don't recruit. We don't need to. Relationships and DeadBedrooms does that for us. As soon as some guy posts in either that their girl won't fuck them but just let Chad bang them up the arse before jizzing on their tits and "I don't know how I should feel about this" they get down voted for being some TRP mysoginst for daring to put their feelings above some girl's tingles, then check us out.
We're not hear by choice. We're here because someone hurt us and we want to know the rules of the game we're playing so we can get an even field
RedPill4LYF 10y ago
We don't have to, but I used to advertise a bit on deadbedrooms just because I felt sorry for those poor bastards.
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max_peenor 10y ago
When you feel sorry for someone aren't you supposed to sneak up behind them with a 12 gauge?
NightGod 10y ago
Yup...sometimes you load it with deer slugs, sometimes you load it with a handful of pills.
Rathadin 10y ago
Funny thing is, we don't have to try to recruit... American women are doing the recruitment for us.
That's why I rejoice every time a beta blue pill bitch is broken in half like a bear eating a salmon. They eventually crawl off and die - i.e., their soul dies and they end up ultimate beta bitches - or they discover TRP in one of its many forms and transform into an actual man.
max_peenor 10y ago
Heh. Brutal. But makes the point nicely.
ojos_mudos 10y ago
Hear, hear. Sometimes we must destroy the village in order to save that mothafucka.
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newmewuser4 10y ago
That hit close to home for this ex-beta orbiter.
Rathadin 10y ago
I missed something I guess... I haven't watched Season 5 of Game of Thrones, since I'm still reading A Dance With Dragons, unless you're talking about the fact that Brenden Stark nearly cut him in half when he was a boy?
I hope nothing happens to Littlefinger in Season 5 / Book 5.
He's honestly one of my favorite characters, and honestly the most RP of the entire bunch. He very rarely gets upset, and he sees the world exactly as it is, instead of how it ought to be, which is why I suspect he might actually make it through the book series unscathed.
To be honest, I'd love to see him "kind of" win in the end. I think Jon Snow will end up ruling Westeros, ultimately, but when the cards are down and bets are settled, I'd love to see Littlefinger end up right back where he started, as Jon Snow's Master of Coin.
Plus it would royally piss off everyone if someone so "evil" as Littlefinger "wins" in the end, which I love... reminds of me The Princess Bride, how Fred Savage goes apeshit when he finds out Humperdink doesn't die at the end of the story, lol.
EDIT: Apparently people on this subreddit don't know the difference between Tyrion "The Imp" Lannister & Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish?
One's a dwarf who think he's good at the game, the other is the puppet master who orchestrated the entire plot of the series and books. Click on the image above to see Littlefinger.
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Rathadin 10y ago
That's Tyrion Lannister... not Petyr Baelish.
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Rathadin 10y ago
I thinks he's over her, and its just a charade, honestly. This guy has grown to the point that he really gives almost zero fucks about anyone but himself and achieving his own goals.
kingofdon 10y ago
If you think Jon snow is gonna rule anything, I suggest you watch season 5. Your opinion may change.
Rathadin 10y ago
Well, the only reason you'd be saying this is that he dies. If that's the case, then the show's departure from the books, which is enough to frustrate me already, will just cement my lack of give-a-damn to watch it any further.
I firmly believe Jon Snow is the lovechild of Lyanna & Rhaegar, the rightful heir to Westeros, and the actual reborn Lord of Light.
All that shit said... I bet fucking HBO and the showrunners are having a colossal fucking hard-on at the thought of making Daenerys the centerpiece of the show... oh what a feminist utopia that'll be... poor girl, used and abused, comes back to rule the world.
At least Martin will have the balls to end the book series with Jon as king.
kingofdon 10y ago
It's more complicated than that. There's hope yet. But the whole world is pretty messy at the end of this season. Winter is coming.
Marsupian 10y ago
Most here dont want to recruit. Less competition and people will find us when they are ready. We are not here to save random dudes. We are here to learn and help those that want to be helped.
ROFLME 10y ago
Being afraid of other guys stops you from saving them from being husks of themselves? Come on... You won't have any issues there's plenty of pussy to go around
MuzakNinja 10y ago
And this is why society is so fucked up. The feminists certainly don't have a problem recruiting people. There's power in numbers, and feminists controlling the government's guns is a very bad plight.
_newbeginnings_ 10y ago
This community definitely saved me from jumping into another failed relationship where I try to bend over backwards to make the woman happy and instead get my ass rammed. Also saved me from trying to be the sweet caring guy when hitting on new chicks...and boy what a difference being indifferent to a plate's feelings makes.
NormThaPenguine 10y ago
Boooo society, it's all their fault! Boooooo
rpkarma 10y ago
Most guys don't want to be saved.
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Marsupian 10y ago
This is no fight against feminism. Go to mra for that shit. This is about learning to live and prosper in a feminist society.
totorox 10y ago
And it's more affective than the MRM in my opinion: lead by example and never explain, never complain.
MuzakNinja 10y ago
So it doesn't matter if you're bovine in a paddock, so long as you're the breeding stock, right? It is no good measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society. I really don't give a rats ass about feminism. I care about its effect on the state. It doesn't matter how alpha you are when there's a violent monopoly involved.
Marsupian 10y ago
Feminism is what's telling all these girls that it's fine to explore their sexuality etc. and gives them an excuse to jump on any strange cock. If you are just in it to fuck hot girls feminism is great. I'm not looking to start a family so I don't care.
Again if you want to combat the feminization of society through activism and recruitment go join the MRA movement. That is perfectly fine.
This sub isn't about activism, recruitment or changing society. It's about getting a good grasp of society and the knowledge to achieve your goals. We learn from each other and we give information to those who seek it.
MyDickFellOff 10y ago
Fucked 3 girls I met on street last week. I fucking love feminism. Don't fight that shit.
MuzakNinja 10y ago
So you don't mind being a tool so long as you get some puss? Sounds beta.
gymgoer205 10y ago
Feminists can recruiti all they want. Masculinity and femininity arr ingrained in us. Even is feminism takes over it will likely be wiped out in 1 or 2 generations. The most alpha men will still get laid and will still have influence. They will pass their knowledge and advantages to there kids.(sons AND daughters ). Those kids will do the same and so on until feminism is after proving to be a failure ended.
MuzakNinja 10y ago
So long as you home-school and don't ever find yourself in court, sure. It doesn't matter how alpha you are if the state gets involved.
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tuxedoburrito 10y ago
The only reason I ever found out about it was because of someone bashing it.
and I'm so thankful they did or else I wouldn't have found it.
norstar1 10y ago
There's a reason feminazis hate this subreddit, especially the female ones. Calling out their bullshit strategies and devious pleas for sexual attention is basically the equivalent of announcing to the world a nation's heinous acts done in secrecy. They're worried people will slowly rise up against the shitty way of life they've been building up for decades.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
I've learned in my life that the best way to destroy an idea is to pretend like it doesn't exist. I've never read the Laws of Power, but that's got to be in there in some form or another. Politicians do that when their opponents point out undesirable things about them, regardless if they're true or false. They ignore it until they're directly confronted about it.
LukesLikeIt 10y ago
The ideas next step to survive is to radicalize. Which we are seeing feminism do.
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I was sent here by 2XC. : o
alArabi-alSuri 10y ago
I signed up for reddit and 2xc was a default subreddit. Wtf?
NightGod 10y ago
It has been for a while and all they do is bitch about it because they don't like all the new people. Gotta watch them feels.
StrokeGameHusky 10y ago
That's fucked. CEO is a SJW..
Luckyluke23 10y ago
you are just learning this now?
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It's because feminism is so pervasive. Now it's us that are a minority.
Luckyluke23 10y ago
and no one knows , cares or is AWARE of it
norstar1 10y ago
Fortunately most feminists are rock-bottom in terms of socioeconomic strata, so any sort of influence they have is only through the media.
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The justice system is a huge part of how men are disadvantaged with regards to divorce, kids, rape, assault and domestic handling. The welfare system pays acceptably to moms, but single men don't get even enough to eat from it, let alone live. I believe in the US it was something like $200-300 a month.
No, the feminists are destroying alot of people's lives.
totorox 10y ago
I'll encourage you guys to browse the wombosphere as I call it (the feminist blogosphere). The amount of hate and the number of literal whores is surprising even for a redpiller. Yes it means actual prostitutes. Another uncannily high occurence is the taste for witchcraft.
This was my starting point https://wwomenwwarriors.wordpress.com/
It is as you noted a bottom of the barrel community. I'll point out that it's not just a socioeconoimic thing, it's also in terms of heart virtues: these people are so full of hate it makes politically correct laws against hate speech a joke.
norstar1 10y ago
Honestly, I don't even want to bother with their idiotic sites, channels, etc. These people are incredibly stupid, loud, and morally bankrupt. I'd rather be successful/happy and shit over them whenever life presents the opportunity. I'd have no problems berating the shit out of a feminist, and using my position to make them feel terrible; they are the lowest of the low.
Many such women these days are hookers in all but name, to be honest. Their "relationships" are almost always transient, with the intent of just fucking til bored or til the male is tired of paying her restaurant bills.
Witchcraft is something I'm surprised to hear about though. How does the occult play into this? I know these people are fucked in the head, but I thought that stems from their stupidity more than something sinister
warjesus420 10y ago
Never heard a hardcore wymyns powa chick being into(actaully believing she is "part" Wiccan, as in it's a heritage she got genetically) the whole witchcraft thing because of the great mother gaia?
ThrowingMyslfOutther 10y ago
It's the mother earth concept that attracts them. TBH, I'll take a pure Wiccan over a feminist any day.
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Aerobus 10y ago
Stop. This is not a subreddit for you to post low-effort drivel. Yesterday you gave a morality lecture and had your comments deleted, and when I confronted you about it, you said you didn't read the mod post.
Now your posting reaction gifs, which isn't allowed either.
Either read the rules or don't come to this subreddit.
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Aerobus 10y ago
It's disallowed in this sub. I don't care whether you think it's appropriate or not.
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redpillbanana 10y ago
This is what happens when you don't know how to handle shit tests. Women are habitual line-steppers. They will constantly test your boundaries, and the more you give in, the more they will lose respect for you.
Chad is the only winner here.
He_who_never_sleeps 10y ago
I want to hear from chad! He killed it
prodigy2throw 10y ago
Somebody get Chad in here. AmA
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robonubbins 10y ago
Similar line of thinking, but different context: https://youtu.be/T4BE-kJPHFk
NakedAndBehindYou 10y ago
Letting your wife fuck other men is far beyond just failing a shit test. Most blue pill men aren't that pathetic.
TomSachs 10y ago
It takes a certain level of autism to let your wife fuck other guys.
daprospecta 10y ago
i knew the link before going.
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That quote should go down in TRP lore, because TRP is a lifelong philosophy. There is no defined "end" to a TRP lifestyle. Self-improvement is a long goal. This guy stopped or never bothered to improve and he got Thundercocked.
redpillbanana 10y ago
You've been...Thundercocked.
mister_barfly75 10y ago
I am never going to be able to listen to AC/DC the same way. Thank you very fucking much.
maddington12 10y ago
I think the term Thundercucked would be more appropriate.
autolex84 10y ago
I can't help but singing "ThunderFucked" when that song comes on the radio.
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I got the whole haveing a three-some shit test about my roommate from my main. I just looked at her, paused, and just from the look of my face she could tell she fucked up. I then said in a slow deep voice...."You say some stupid shit and walked out". Didn't get upset, didn't say "maybe", didn't whine or cry. I have never heard someone apologize so much and suck so hard on a dick.
madscientist970 10y ago
I'm sort of new to TRP, but isn't the three-some shit test enough reason conclude she doesn't respect you as she once did and shouldn't be your main anymore?
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No. I know it seems that way but it's just like when a little girl tells her daddy that she hates him. It is a test to see if you will get emotional and if you do, it tells her that my roommate is of higher value than I am. Or if I started talking shit about my roomy, that would tell her that I see him as a threat. Alphas know their place and know that they are the best and all others are not a threat. My roommate is a black guy who has been working out for 6 years and has me when it comes to size. But that is all he has. I am smarter than him, take more risks than him when it comes to things, and I have more hobbies than him. Plus, I am still in great physical condition but just not as jacked as him. My main is a light skinned black chick btw.
Getting upset over a girl "disrespecting" you is a beta trait. Always remember this "Bitches are never as good as you. You are a man. Anything a woman says about you isn't shit because you are better than them. Never listen to what they say....watch what they do. You are a king and kings have no need to get upset because what they say goes." If she had been flirting with my roomy or rubbing his arms or something like that, then her ass would be nexted. I saw the test and told her she says stupid shit in the tone like she was talking about someone in my pack/family and I will not stand for that and took away attention by walking out. I acted like the alpha of the pack and didn't stand for anyone insulting my pack.
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madscientist970 10y ago
Good points. I've got a lot of shit to learn here. Thanks for sharing.
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What if you're in a monogamous ltr with the girl and she suggests it? Is it just your average shit test or is it a 100% end the relationship kind of thing?
totorox 10y ago
Then you were not in a monogamous LTR at all, you just thought you were.
roteroktober 10y ago
then you are done with her and next her right there.
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And into the trash she goes
CuddleMyNeckbeard 10y ago
That's the price you pay for being so disgustingly beta. Which guy in his right mind lets another dude bang his girl?
Scrotiebutters 10y ago
But they had so much in common?
JeanValjean197o 10y ago
It would be cool if an experienced RP could do a write up about how such a relationship could be salvaged if other circumstances made that worthwhile.
As a theoretical lesson on how to deal with such situations that would be an invaluable teaching tool.
I'm not saying this relationship should be saved. I'm just saying, if one was going to save it then how would he go about doing it?
I could only bumble at a game plan myself.
cocaine_face 10y ago
No circumstances really would make it worthwhile, outside of fantastically contrived circumstances (crazy things like, she is the heir to a multi million dollar fortune, with no pre-nup and you're 1 year away from lifetime alimony in your state).
That's sorta the point. She doesn't respect you. She's going to leave you the moment she thinks she can branch swing again. This behavior pattern will be repeated, all things being equal. You can put in gargantuan effort with dread gaming her - lifting, talking to other women, improving yourself professionally, etc.
If you improve yourself enough, she'll become attracted to you again (if you went from Mr. Beta Schlub to ripped CEO of Apple tomorrow by some magic means, you'd absolutely have the option to get her back).
But... why?
Chances are you can just do better. She's just another girl out of billions. Equal in value to every single other one - actually worth quite a bit less in value than most, considering certain aspects of her personality, at least in my estimation. Why spend time with trash?
Drop her, find a better girl, and don't do things like this again.
JeanValjean197o 10y ago
I'm not disagreeing you. However, I think it would be a good exercise to contemplate and plan such a strategy.
That said, if there are kids involved and a man doesn't want to lose those kids and he knows he can't afford the alimony and child support then he has a good reason to repair the relationship.
I've read enough on here and experienced enough in my own life to know how damaging it is to young boys to be without their father. This is one of the first things the Red Pill Handbook talks about. So, any guy who has taken the RP will want to prevent that happening to his son (and daughter) even if it means repairing things with his cheating wife.
cocaine_face 10y ago
In the case that he wants to repair the relationship to prevent divorce rape, Athol Kay's stuff would probably help.
But just, that's a terribly rocky start.
rymdsylt 10y ago
I couldn't read further than to that point. I've gone from the anger phase, to the acceptance phase, to "aw shit, all these betas. I feel so fucking bad for them". I somehow feel bad for him. Is this what empathy is like? If so, how do I get rid of it again?
thefisherman1961 10y ago
Don't get rid of your empathy, embrace it. It's what makes you a man.
basquiatsdroppedhigh 10y ago
This is just going to be a semantics opinion and not a general response to the post. I don't agree with referring to (MFM) as a gangbang and not a threesome. The problem is not the MFM but the fact that this guy was a little bitch. A threesome is a threesome and you can be an alpha fucking male in a MFM, case in point chad thundercock. A gangbang is MFMM or more. Three people is a threesome. Sometimes I feel there is a slightly homophobic undertone to this community and it frustrates me. Be about what your about where it be MFF or MFM or even a gangbang. you might have to be a fucking alpha God about it like Dante Nero but just be about what your about. Anyway good post! I find the personal stories to always be the most helpful.
thenarrrowpath 10y ago
I don't feel sorry one bit nor do I respect other men who allow the MMF threesomes. He deserves what he put on himself.
jobs33ker 10y ago
It's hilarious and sad at the same time how mainstream reddit passively encourages cucking. People act like they're so "enlightened" and "progressive" by letting some dude cum in their bitches mouth, because they buy into that sex positive feminist horse shit about "its just sex" and "don't be insecure".
They buy into it until they see for themselves what it's like when ts THEIR nuts on the chopping block. Up till then, they have no problem posting that the OP is "just insecure".
Sucks when theory meets reality, don't it?
thefisherman1961 10y ago
That's because third-wave feminism is a giant collective shit test designed to put all men below women in the social hierarchy so that hypergamy can run wild and unchecked. Those who fail the shit test do so by supporting it (beta male white knight SJWs).
Third-wave feminists absolutely hate the idea of alpha males being higher than alpha females in the hierarchy, and so they shame men who live by the Red Pill. Obviously third-wave feminism ultimately fails because alpha males recognize it for the horse shit that it is, and it also contradicts billions of years of evolution and natural selection.
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rpscrote 10y ago
Dump her, kick her ass out, and never talk to her again you sackless fucking faggot
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BuffaloSoljah 10y ago
"Years of love have been forgotten in the hatred of a minute" - Edgar Allen Poe
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And the post would be differently entirely if Chad actually wanted just more than sex. The guy totally glazes over the fact that if the other guy wanted to give his time to her, she wouldn't hesitate to abandon him.
Stopher 10y ago
That's the killer part. She's only back because she ran out of every other option. That guy needs to man up and show some self respect.
a_chill_bro 10y ago
Castles made of sand bro. I love it.
favours_of_the_moon 10y ago
It's not the sex per se that means more to her than the 11 years with the hubby and sometimes the kids and all else. Part of it is the tingles, but alot of the tingles come from mindraping the hubby and humiliating him like that. Getting him to be such a chump as to go along with it, then doing it right in his face as he sat outside the room jerking.
But hey, burn a WOMAN like that. You'll see CRAZY. LOL. No one will be telling her it's all her fault either.
_newbeginnings_ 10y ago
And good luck getting half of her shit during the divorce if the tables are turned....
redsuedeshoes25 10y ago
This is also what happens when you let your wife whine about wanting a MFM 3some to "spice up our sex lives". THEN...fall for the "he's to shy to perform around you" excuse.
I get being a gracious host and everything, but since when does letting some dude fuck your wife become the solution for curing his shyness. There's being beta and there's being stupid. This guy evidently has a healthy dose of both. You can't make it this easy for your wife to be a whore.
Username-_-2015 10y ago
That's the scary part of all of this. Women will pretend to love you so long as you can pay their way in life. What kind of person pretends to love you for 11 years, what kind of a person does that? AWALT
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200mgtestc 10y ago
I have zero concept of how these things happen and are ok. If you are having threesomes, swinging, etc. etc. - don't tell me you're surprised by what happens.
"... but my feelings" is the most retarded way to say "I don't understand how she can like his dick better than mine" that I've ever heard.
account_rp 10y ago
If I was a guy who was actually interested in an MFM threesome, which I'm not, I'd kick Chad out for being unable to perform.
edit. Kick him out because he'd be unable to perform in the mfm, which was the whole point of inviting him.
ghostCanape 10y ago
Let's be realistic, Chad can't perform around beta males any more than this dude's wife.
In seriousness, yes I also would have politely kicked him out, i.e. "that's too bad bro, let's grab a drink and forget that your dick wouldn't work".
_newbeginnings_ 10y ago
Is there any connection between TRP theory and alpha animal behavior in the wild? I've never heard of an alpha animal allowing another male access to his females so I'm curious why in the hell any AF would be cool with it in the first place unless it's a plate. Some people might frown on reducing this all to animalistic behavior but the truth is our evolution as animals is a whole lot more deeply engrained in us compared to our time spent as conscious human beings.
Pointless_Endeavors 10y ago
When I first read that part, I assumed he went back after the guy was able to get it up. But then further into the post I realized that he didn't go back in, and that the guy just basically fucked his wife while he waited in another room.
I was flabbergasted.
I re-read to double check and but nope. Reading it as a whole, it's clear that he never actually took part in the threesome. That makes everything else just so much infinitely worse.
redestofthereds 10y ago
He probably jerked off while outside of the room. It actually counts as a threesome s/
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mrcs84usn 10y ago
This is what happens when men are "open minded" and "nonjudgmental" in their relationships. The women in their lives have no compunctions about exploiting it, and the relationships fail. Then it gets turned on him because he was apparently the bad guy.
Sdom1 10y ago
Jesus, the guy just needs some self-respect and common sense. This shit is not that hard, you don't even need terminology for this one.
Just the fact that she would be willing to ask him for a MMF threesome, and then further ask him to leave the room so the other dude can get it up, shows that the marriage is done. It's not about being an alpha widow or anything like that, she just wants different dick.
No wife who has a shred of respect for her husband would ask for these things. Most people who cheat at least try and keep it on the low. To cheat on your partner and rub it in their face (generally a female move) is about as degrading and aggressive as it gets.
maddox45 10y ago
Nothing alpha at all about being a cuck or letting some other dude fuck your wife.
pwnerofnoob 10y ago
It's like dropping your ice cream cone in the dirt, and trying to wash it off...why bother?
wiseprogressivethink 10y ago
His options now are:
1 - Dump the whore, gain some self-respect, lift
2 - Cuck For Life
3 - Suicide
My money is on 2.
dandar4600 10y ago
Another lesson learned is don't open your relationship to MFM unless:
you're the ultimate alpha and you want it to happen
or
she's your plate and you don't care if she drops.
Auphor_Phaksache 10y ago
I know a girl in a relationship like this. But she honestly fucks the hell out of her provider, maybe because they have kids. They even have another girl friend. i went to one of their parties once and shit was crazy. I have no idea what this guy does, but damn I wish I could figure it out. he not even a chad, more like a computer nerd that just figured out the statistical algorithms of fucking.
dr_warlock 10y ago
I suggested this to a plate after sex, she hated the idea. Probably perceived it as me not caring. She would be right.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
Also probably a combination of ASD and because she didn't think the second male would be able to fuck her better than you. One of my ex-LTRs brought up doing a MFF threesome multiple times. I suggested a MFM just to see how she'd react, and she rejected it as "gross" (powertalk).
dr_warlock 10y ago
I thought it might be arousing, like watching a live amateur porno. But she was too attached to me at the time, begging for commitment, making ultimatums.
Iron-willing 10y ago
"Another lesson learned is don't open your relationship to MFM
unless: you're the ultimate alpha and you want it to happen or she's your plate and you don't care if she drops."FTFY. I never understood why guys open a relationship to MFM. I understand that for some it is a kink but it is a kink that will likely destroy your relationship as you are essentially allowing cheating ruining any respect the girl has for you. Swingers, for example, may stay married or in a relationship but if you are going out and banging other people what sort of relationship do you really have besides companionship? Not to mention that women have infinitely more access to dick and so a male will lose 99% of the time in that scenario. Its best to avoid the situation entirely IMO. If your SO brings up a MFM or "open relationship", she already has another guy in mind and is going to try to manipulate you into allowing her to cheat without "technically cheating".
I'm sure there are limited cases where an open relationship or MFM doesn't ruin the relationship but these limited stories are dwarfed by the unlimited stories of relationships that failed because of the guys inability to controls his SO's hypergamy. I think that full acceptance of TRP ideals would be incongruent with an open relationship or MFM when in a LTR. Even with a plate, opening up to a MFM is a good way to ensure the plate is on her way out.
BattleDrillOneAlpha 10y ago
The thing is that everybody thinks their relationship is the one that it won't happen.
It's the same reason people do stupid shit and get injured.
They think they are invincible and/or their relationship/group is the same way.
fckredditt 10y ago
i just can't understand the swinger life style since women always depend on the man to take care of them. how can you take care of something that belongs to everyone? nobody does that. that's why public spaces get trashed all the time. i just can't see myself sacrificing anything for something that doesn't belong to me.
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Some people are into the kink.. It's like this, if your into that kind of thing and you don't give a fuck about your relationship then go for it..
I did the swinging thing before, it was fun... But at the time I did it, I myself had already checked out of the relationship, so I figured why not go out in style and see what the sex clubs were all about
Morholt_dhu 10y ago
With swingers I get the impression that it's couples hooking up with other couples. You're supposed to swing together and have everyone on the same page. Granted, if someone opens their relationship up to that, they likely having less scruples about good ol' fashioned infidelity.
Can swingers be TRP?
London-Bananas 10y ago
Yeah single people aren't exactly welcome at swingers clubs. I believe it's pretty much required to come as a couple.
Morholt_dhu 10y ago
Yes of course. I guess I'm not sure where TRP stands on swingers. My first impulse would be to say it's against it, as a man is essentially "sharing" his women while still holding onto the pretensions of a LTR. But on the other hand, if a modern man assumes that most women are going to be skags anyway, it seems like a way to have your cake and eat it to. The "infidelity" is basically in a controlled environment, and you get to participate in wacky sex parties, all while having a female companion. Granted it's not really an LTR, but I could see some merits to it.
I'm not arguing one way or the other, the thread just seems like it could touch on this. Any body have any thoughts or experiences?
_Zongo_ 10y ago
I've often thought about this too. I'm not really sure where it falls on the spectrum. I've met a few swinger couples, and actually attended a party event at a hotel while a swinger meet up was happening on the floor below. The building we were in was far away from the main hotel and basically had an apartment where there was a stripper pole with couches set up around it lol. All of the guys seemed to be very alpha type dudes, confident, and not too worried about what their girls were doing. Seemed very trusting in the idea that their girl wouldn't do anything that the guy didn't want.
Guy I knew at the party ended up in one of the swingers rooms with his girlfriend after the swingers invited he and I to hang out with them in the apartment for a few min. Based on what I have seen and what he said its definitely the type of situation where there were very strict boundaries and rules that each couple had, and they understood crossing them would basically be a huge betrayal of trust.
To me it just seems like you are dangling a steak in front of a lion and you are just asking for those rules to be broken, but on the other hand some couples really seem to enjoy it. I think it really comes down to each individual couple, and you need certain type of people for it to work.
London-Bananas 10y ago
I guess it could work for men who made the mistake of getting married. You'll still be a cuck, but at least she won't be fucking some dude behind your back. And you get to experience some other women whilst also installing obvious dread.
But yeah it still sucks to whore out your woman. Thank god I found TRP before ever getting married.
Iron-willing 10y ago
I personally don't believe so. If your wife/SO is getting banged by another male how can she possibly have respect for you? TRP tends to trivialize sex but really, sex is a way of either A) a woman communicating that she believes you of high enough value to pass on your genetic material to her offspring or B) having sex while shes not ovulating in order to secure BB (we see this in the primate world - females have sex with BB while not ovulating in order for food/protection and AF while ovulating for good genetics). If a woman is going outside of a relationship it communicates she doesn't believe you of worthy of passing on your genetic material and only sees you as a meal ticket. I can't think of a lower place to be - I'd rather be single than viewed as so low that a woman can walk all over me and use me simply for resources.
So no, I don't believe swingers can be TRP. A man who initiates swinging may be "alpha" in his own mind or exploring a kink but there's nothing alpha about your wife getting destroyed on the reg by Chad. I put swinging in the same category as those who have a "hotwife" fetish. If a guy is interested in sleeping around, he wouldn't suggest swinging. Swinging indicates a lack of self esteem similar to that found in hotwifing but the guy maintains dignity, in his mind, because he gets to participate.
Morholt_dhu 10y ago
I agree with you that swinging is no substitute for sleeping around. If a guy wants to be a player, he should learn to be a player. Tagging along with an oversexed female just so he can rsvp to orgies is not the same thing.
I know a lot of TRPrs like to focus on marriageability of a woman, and her prospects as a successful mother. But if I have a plate, towards whom I make NO assumption of exclusivity, what's the harm in me and a couple of other lads getting the plates together and seeing what happens? Assuming these partners have been entirely disqualified as LTR prospects anyway. But perhaps in that context, it's not really swinging.
Iron-willing 10y ago
I personally wouldn't define that as swinging. Swinging is typically referred to within the context of LTR/Marriage whereas group sex outside of LTR/marriage I'd just refer to as an orgy. I suppose it really depends on how you define swinging but personally I've always defined swinging within the context of LTR/marriage.
If you have already disqualified a plate for LTR then there isn't any harm in terms of the relationship in hooking up in an orgy like manner as the relationship isn't destined to go anywhere. I would, however, be careful in terms of your psyche. I've read instances where in an MFM the one guy got less attention than the other guy which lead to performance anxiety down the road and low self esteem. Its one thing to be rejected in a bar for another guy but its a whole other level to have your dick completely ignored while in bed with another girl and guy. Plus, depending on an individuals personality type it could lead to developing a kink for MFM which isn't a recipe for a successful LTR/marriage.
You're right in saying there's no harm to the relationship of a plate who isn't LTR material to do a MFM or similar kink but I would make sure its something you'd really be interested in and have fully considered the repercussions if your personal worst case scenario occurs during the MFM. Not saying it will, just to fully consider the ramifications as human sexuality is often not as linear as we like to believe it is and can be changed and altered by new or fantastical (def: conceived or appearing as if conceived by an unrestrained imagination) events. How many guys do you think grew up with a hotwife fetish? Probably not very many, but once their wife cheats while their self esteem is incredibly low or she manipulates them into an open relationship where only she gets laid, their sexuality is manipulated into seeing it as a fetish despite it lacking any logic.
Morholt_dhu 10y ago
Yea, I suppose group sex with a plate is very different from group sex with a girl friend or wife.
I personally never understood the whole MMF thing, although I've heard it described to me by guys that are into it. It just seems like you're getting HALF a woman. My proclivities towards group sex are guided by a desire for more variety within a singular sexual episode, which I feel would not be got if I'm competing for real estate with another dick.
I'm sure the psychological motivations of people into hotwife stuff vs those into couple swapping are a little different, but I can also see where they might overlap in the voyeuristic element of observing your girl get some strange dick. In that regard, I would assume that dudes into couple swapping occur as a dichotomy: those who are coerced into it and either too feeble to say "no", or putting their reservations on hold in the hopes of getting some easy strange (not unlike a dog hanging out under a table while humans are eating); and a second variant might be dudes that are just confident enough in their sexual rapport with a girl that the thought of her as a tag-team partner in an orgy is more compelling than horrifying. I had an ex-girl friend who was real kinky and we sort of came to the idea that it would be fun to hook up with other couples (This was years after we broke up, and I imagine I probably broached the topic first). We were in different cities a couple hours away, with no expectation of exclusivity, but would get together for a weekend every couple of months. Now there are other girls for whom I would not entertain this notion, but I wasn't in love with this ex or concerned about being replaced in her life, and was also supremely confident in my sexual episodes with her. All these things being said, I assumed I would be totally comfortable being in a situation where she's with another guy. Now I'm not going to be the little boy in the corner with her panties on my head tugging at my limp dick, I'm gonna be getting mine too, so it seemed like something worth trying. Unfortunately, nothing really panned out with another couple given our physical distance and the irregularity of our meetings, so I never got a chance to really access that headspace.
I will say that there were totally guys online posing as couples looking to weasel into something.
teeay 10y ago
Quite a lot of swingers are older, where fertility isn't a consideration. I'm not sure if the innate genetic drives you refer to (for either the male or female) can't be overridden by more rational frontal lobe considerations. Once you have found your perfect LTR woman, indulged those genetic imperatives and produced some offspring that you know are yours, then what? You're 20 years in with a woman who, even if she stays in shape, is inevitably kinda boring. But you're comfortable with her and she delivers what you need elsewhere. Swinging then delivers some variety and excitement with little risk.
Iron-willing 10y ago
Humans don't inherently possess rationality when it comes to sexual urges but lets say you are correct and they no longer have that drive. Why would a man allow his wife to be plowed by other guys? If he wants sexual variety he can find women outside marriage without getting his wife involved. There is no need to swing if he solely wants sexual variety as his wife getting plowed likely overrides the thrill he gets with sexual variety. If a married couple swings to satisfy both their desires of sexual variety then could it not be said he possesses low self esteem as he does not believe himself to be of high enough value to satisfy his wife?
teeay 10y ago
Oh humans certainly aren't usually rational about sex. Doesn't mean they can't be though.
Maybe he just doesn't care about her in the same way he did before, and maybe his self-esteem isn't derived from his sexual prowess alone?
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Iron-willing 10y ago
If that were true this sub wouldn't exist. Men who have no self esteem delve into these fetishes as they don't think they can provide their SO with happiness due to whatever insecurity they may have. TRP exists to teach these men self confidence and that they have value despite their perceived flaws. Being beta is a mindset and a mindset is the product of environment.
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I wonder if you have any idea where the thrill/turn on comes from that I experience when imagining a plate with another guy. I haven't done a train/MFM but I find it really really tempting. Is that me being self destructive and indulging in my low self esteem? I think it might be that a little but I am not sure. The other factor I didn't mention is that I have always wondered what it would be like to blow another guy; haven't tried it but I probably would do it in MFM. It isn't a huge turn on by itself but I am curious.
So to sum up, I agree with what you are saying, but something makes MFM really tempting.
fckredditt 10y ago
no, cuckolding is a huge fetish shared by most men. it comes from the fact that when men think their mate is cheating on them, they become extremely horny so they can cum inside that woman right away. most of an ejaculate is actually warrior sperm that does not try to enter the egg. they are simply there to suicide with enemy sperm. so while humans were evolving, the guy that fucked your girl is basically in your clan and he probably just fucked her a few mins ago. if you fuck her right away, you have a chance to fight his sperm and also dig out his sperm with your shovel shaped dick. so it's not weird at all that some men would go as far as indulge in that feeling and let their wife their fucked by other men. personally, i would never let it happen to anyone but a plate. the feelings of resentment afterwards are also impossible to let go.
edit: source is robin baker's sperm wars. not all of that book is true but fuck does it explain a lot of the mysteries of sexuality and relationships.
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I challenge that most men have a cuckold fetish
fckredditt 10y ago
how many men like interracial porn? that's a cuckold fetish.
teeay 10y ago
I challenge the "warrior sperm" comment. That's not how sperm competition works...
Iron-willing 10y ago
I personally believe the thrill comes from the indulgence in low self esteem and the humiliation that accompanies it. For example, the military has the highest percentage of crossdressers out of any profession. Confusing at first the reason becomes clear when you understand that in the military you always have to put up a masculine, hard-ass front and can never let your guard down. If you are not naturally assertive/aggressive, this can be tiring and so some individuals use crossdressing, the polar opposite of their regular facade, to relax and indulge in the humiliation of being opposite of how they normally behave. I think that the cuckolding/hotwife fetish follows a similar mechanism where rather than having to feel in charge all the time you can relax and let your wife "be happy" doing whatever she wants with the added humiliation spicing it up even more for some people. Some guys get off on their wife getting banged by someone else due to the root cause of their low self esteem but also the not having to be in charge and humiliation aspects of it as well. I think even more so in your case as you wondering about blowing another guy isn't about the action itself but potentially more about leaving your typical masculine role with the potential added humiliation to some degree. Then again, I don't know you so I can't say for certain its the humiliation that makes it desireable for you I am just speaking what I've generally seen with respect to this.
KyfhoMyoba 10y ago
I think that the cuckold fetish is the eroticization of cortisol (the stress hormone). I made another lengthy comment that explains in more detail on some other thread I'm too lazy to look up.
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[deleted] 10y ago
Thank you for such a well written response I really appreciate it. Yeah you are probably right.
So I am thinking the best thing to do at this moment is to not even consider indulging. Instead, working on my self esteem, assertiveness, confidence. I would like to someday be so confident that I would not be afraid to display vulnerability.
Iron-willing 10y ago
I definitely wouldn't consider indulging. The slippery slope ideology does hold some truth.
At the same time I caution against forcing yourself into a role you don't feel comfortable with/fronting an overly confident/masculine outward appearance. It is true you have to fake it till you make it but I've seen individuals who eventually combust because they go to the extreme and feel drained from putting up a facade so opposite of what they believe themselves to be. The combustions aren't pretty as they often go from one extreme to another in order to de-stress. Work on your inner confidence, your inner masculinity/assertiveness and your outward mannerisms will follow.
[deleted] 10y ago
Thank you that makes a lot of sense. I'm really not much of a liar anyways. When I am being honest, calm, having fun, I can go all day. When I am playing a role or anxious I feel exhausted after socializing for short periods. That is why I always thought I was an introvert when I was younger and now I realize I am more of a mix or an extrovert :-)
RemyPrice 10y ago
I have MFM experiences with my (male) roommate, because
it's awesome as fuck
blackhornatnight 10y ago
RP men don't have roommates.
C'mon, this isn't your Jr. year in college, bro.
RemyPrice 10y ago
You do when they're a rich sex educator dom with hundreds of female orbiters.
Irrelevant side note: I own multiple homes.
blackhornatnight 10y ago
I guess if you're into that lifestyle it's a boon. I wouldn't want to bring a girl back to my place only to find my roommate spanking someone with a paddle in a latex suit, or maybe I would - I've never tried it.
RemyPrice 10y ago
Not all dommes wear latex. But we do have a cage hanging from the ceiling.
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DS-Slash 10y ago
Storys like this let me stay focused and remind me of why I am here in the first place and to not become complacent.
jx234 10y ago
The way you circle jerk over this Chad guy in these stories makes me cringe. The reality is probably different to your fantasy. "Chad" is probably a 5/10 guy compared to the 4/10 husband, with slightly more balls/not a complete pushover. The woman is probably a 3/10 land whale. I get that you find it easier to jerk off to the scenario if you imagine the woman being a VS model with Chad as a 6'4 ripped male model. But come on.
rossiFan 10y ago
Ha, no shit, right? And "Chad Thundercock" is really just "Chad Differentcock".
makethemsayayy 10y ago
I've heard "Thundercock" so much I actually feel like it's a real name. Not a joke.
But Differentcock makes it funny again. Lmao.
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theDarkAngle 10y ago
OTOH, OP commented:
I mean this whole story could be bullshit, but not even the most infatuated loser calls a landwhale "ridiculously attractive". I think maybe this guy had just managed to date way above his SMV, before the girl really realized it.
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London-Bananas 10y ago
Considering "Chad" won't commit to her he's probably way above her. A 5/10 guy would be glad to take over this woman.
And yeah I guess the Chad Tundercock thing is just a hyperbole, imo it's pretty funny. I definitely chuckled when OP typed "let's call him Chad"
Easih 10y ago
so did I, When people mention "Chad" it always make me chuckle.
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fckredditt 10y ago
god damn cuckold stories make me hard as fuck. it began the first time my gf cheated on me when i was 17. didn't know why it turned me on so bad until i read robin bakers sperm wars when i was 19. anyways, i've been enjoying it ever since. i just can't have it happen for real though since the pain after ejac is so bad. i just highly enjoy these kinds of stories and imagine myself in that guy's shoes. the only thing that could've made this hotter is if the guy was black or had a huge dick.
anyways, how typical of women to follow their feelings. then come back to the supporter after the alpha mean took off. what a world we live in.
nastymutant 10y ago
Like other posters have said - it's not even sad, it's just so fucking tawdry and cruddy. How limp must you be to think someone poling your wife is just a problem you guys need to repair? Dear oh dear oh dear oh dear
idonthaveacoolname13 10y ago
I love TRP. You guys keep it up! Being right is hard and nobody wants to hear the truth, everybody just wants a scape goat. Can't have your cake and eat it too and then expect not to be fat and for Sheila not to schedule fuck sessions with Chad. Just sayin.
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Jaghiro 10y ago
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Rathadin 10y ago
This response from a woman on thread is fucking hilarious... and incredibly telling about the nature of women...
I mean... what can I say about this, really? She's flat out admitting she'd use a man for a place to live / food to eat while waiting for "Mr. Right". Does it get any fucking more AWALT than this? Is it even possible?
She's 'holding herself to a high standard' because she's waiting for Mr. Disney Prince. This woman strikes me as someone who's probably an 8 or 9 and doesn't have to settle like the rest of the slores in urban centers, but sounds like she's also feeling the approach of The Wall and is seriously looking for said Prince.
JP_Whoregan 10y ago
I have never in my life seen so much male hamstering condensed into such a small area of space. I wanna tell the guy,
"Hey bro, lemme give you a little hint: IF YOU LEAVE THE ROOM EVERY TIME, IT'S NOT A THREESOME OR EVEN A GANGBANG. IT'S YOUR WIFE FUCKING ANOTHER DUDE. That's it.
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They were fucking at her workplace during the day when OP was unaware. So much ego protection
Aerobus 10y ago
The problem is with these kinds of "men," if you try shouting that in their ear they'll only hamster harder.
We really can't save these people no matter how much we try.
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andeanballs 10y ago
The rationalization was strong with this one. As a recovering vagina-worshiper I feel lucky as hell to have found this sub.
the_doodabides 10y ago
Ha his responses are great ... " but I wuv her and she's my best friend". Honestly though, how low do you have to view yourself to willingly ignore being shit on ??
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London-Bananas 10y ago
"I suggest marriage counseling"
sardinemanR 10y ago
Even if he's beta, he's just about to enter his peak SMV years while she's hitting the wall.
The best thing that could happen to him is a clean break, unfortunately his financial resources will likely go to her thanks to the government.
If he gets himself in shape within the next year or two he would be ballin after that. Probably though he won't take the red pill and won't take advantage of that.
Vovamas 10y ago
Well, kudos to "Chad". People like him are really doing God's work. The more pathetic little schmucks like OOP get tricked into "spicing things up in the bedroom" (read: give consent to their wives to go fuck more masculine and alpha guys), the more discontent will arise among those sad betas when they realize their wives won't give them a time of a day anymore, because they just voluntarily let their SMV hit the absolute low. Even worse, those hoes get tingles by letting some macho fuck her in every orifice when their hubbies have to wait till Thanksgiving to just get a blowjob. And then maybe some of those manlets will wind up here.
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Good post. If this guy doesn't question what he is doing after this, I'm not sure anything will.
It took a whole hell of a lot less for me to find the red pill. Pretty brutal.
Quansau18 10y ago
Someone should send him this thread as advice.
asdfasdfa2342342 10y ago
dude you post in red pill, you are beta yourself, who are you trying to fool. an alpha male would never post here. know your place fucking beta
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wont_tell_i_refuse 10y ago
Fucking great post. We need more alternative viewpoints here.
Ochreata 10y ago
Good post. I was hoping to see some rational discourse from the other side.
Some tend to view things in a much too black and white way. Any dalliance with another male is cuckoldry and we shouldn't marry because AWALT...
Yet swinging with a strong male lead is a totally different thing, the loss of respect from the female (as expected by many) is not present. I actually found my wife getting jealous of me giving other women orgasms, a net increase in dread. The nonchalant attitude to her having sex also increases dread whilst, as you mentioned, she satisfies AWALT without guilt or risk in an environment controlled by you.
All of the relationships I have seen in swinger couples with an Alpha (lead) male have been long lasting, stable and happy. I think the Alpha/Beta duality of the female imperative has been pretty much satisfied. The female sees her man with other women and that he controls how and with whom she gets to have sex with, Alpha. She also sees that he is not running off butt-hurt or nexting her after she has sex. This satisfies her security (Beta) needs.
It's certainly a contentious topic for TRP. But rather than follow the orthodoxy, as an alpha I'll do what the fuck I want!
BlueChilli 10y ago
Sure, you can do what you want. You are approaching from a perspective of power. You are in charge. The pathetic sap in the story clearly wasn't.
It's an important distinction to make. A former friend went down this route, but he wasn't in charge and, predictably, it ended badly for him.
I certainly find the idea of swinging interesting. When I reach that point of strength and abundance, I would give it a try.
ThorCoop 10y ago
My father always told me men and women can't be friends. Nor shall you ever allow a man to stay at your castle.
Dylan_Tnga 9y ago
Very good advice indeed. I was beta enough to let one of my friends sleep over for a week or two when I was living with my ex wife.
Of course, she ended up cheating and I left her. I had two kids with her. She now has 4 children in total, has turned her new hubby into the saddest most pathetic beta in the universe and has gained 80 pounds because he doesn't make her eat properly or exercise like I used to tell her to do.
It's something that once you learn you obviously never forget. I'm very grateful for having learned my lesson and that I don't have to be in that relationship anymore. This was 4 years ago and I'm so much happier now than I was back then that's for sure.
watersign 10y ago
DUDE. EXACTLY.
How many lions or bears are fucking friends with female lions or bears?? yeah..none!
Negativexlol 10y ago
God these stories make me feel sick. I'm glad they are here to learn from though.
incelmanlate20s 10y ago
They make me feel something. But this probably has been going on forever. Why is it now that we're sick about it? Why expect anything different than this?
Negativexlol 10y ago
The programming runs deep I guess.
LoveLord1000 10y ago
I've never thought of Chad Thundercock as being "too shy to perform" or "visibly distressed".
yaardi 10y ago
Well, I think it's pretty normal (even for a RP guy) to feel awkward cuckolding a guy like that.
RP15 10y ago
powertalk to get mr beta out of the equation
dicarlok 10y ago
To be fair, we don't know that Chad is alpha by our standards. The only thing we know is that he is more alpha than our OP.
DrunkenOni 10y ago
Actually I agree. That guy doesn't sound like a Chad at all, just a guy who was the breaking point for her being overwhelmed by the husbands beta antics. Wouldn't at all surprise me if she was already fucking around behind his back well before this incident.
max_peenor 10y ago
The hamster has a side job making excuses for Chad to rail her alone.
LoveLord1000 10y ago
I know what you're getting at, but if the guy saw him "visibly distressed" when he wasn't then it's his hamster seriously messing with him.
max_peenor 10y ago
You don't know the power of the beta-side.
Though I agree it is more likely your first reaction. He wasn't as Chadly as she thought and it didn't take her long to figure that out once he got him exclusively after the separation. So just what made her twattle tingle in the first place? That part I don't get...
dandar4600 10y ago
He was an upgrade even if he couldn't perform with hubby in the room. That's what it was. She attempted a branch swing and missed.
frys180 10y ago
This was a great way to isolate himself with his GF. After knowing someone for a month, you'd know if they'd "let you have some time to adjust." Either that or he may have heavily implied that he'd like to be "alone with her just for a moment." This was either "coincidental" or very Machiavellian of him.
But regardless...
That's so beta I physically cringed. Why would he give that one on one energy a chance to manifest? He should have calmed him down and made him feel "more at ease." But he didn't take the reigns and lead the threesome. Very beta. Very very beta.
Syriz_ 10y ago
I stopped reading at this point in the original post, closed the window and said to myself "what the actual fuck". Seriously. How can someone even stand such shit
illtill8614 10y ago
honestly i never even go in this subreddit anymore because the stories constantly make me want to vomit. i am smoking a joint right now just because of how nauseated the OP made me. every now and then, TRP pops up on my front page and I 'force feed' myself a post w/ a lot of replies, just to strengthen myself... like tempering steel or some shit. but i'll tell you, it's not easy. it's like the stories just get more and more unbearable.... sheesh
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illtill8614 10y ago
yeah ur right. nobody's perfect... for me, relatively minor stresses like an asshole cutting me off in traffic or having to read a painful account of demasculation on TRP don't send me off the edge, but they do make me angry sometimes... so to take the edge off, depending on my schedule/level of stress, i might smoke a joint, sometimes i hit the gym, etc. i happened to be smoking a joint as i was reading the thread so i thought it would be a funny quip; OP didn't really motivate the joint but i see how my comment could be interpreted as dependency
i was more trying to convey my overall status of mortification at how many of these stories seem to be popping up... like all these dudes are moving around among us on the daily, trapped in their own private hell... shit is depressing that's all. because there is really only so much you can do for somebody who won't help themselves
NotQuiteRedPill 10y ago
1) He let another man fuck his wife.
2) He let another man fuck his wife.
3) He left the room and let another man fuck his wife. Goto 1.
Yeah, I don't feel bad for him.
xwm 10y ago
This is why people hate the old goto function. Plus your code is entirely unreadable now.
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My fucking face while reading this shit, Jesus fucking Christ. I can't even feel bad for the little guy, you deserve everything that happens to you if you allow your bitch to fuck another guy, one-on-one, no less.
And then he says "part of me is happy to have her back in any form" oh my god.
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Fuck this I think I'm done with TRP today.
JackRayner_ 10y ago
LOL!
Yeah. Reading shit like this always gets me going. In a caring world men like this would just be put out of their misery, but that's not the kind of world we live in. Hahahaha.
That's the worst part about it, too. Knowing that most of these guys are so far gone that there's nothing you can do. Shoving the red pill down their throats would be like giving medicine to the dead.
Cosmonauto 10y ago
Where will he find a slutty girl to marry again? ha
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They are happy and willing to accept anything just to fuck a random pussy..
I don't believe it. I can't believe anyone would be that stupid. The equation is bloody simple :
Unhappy wife
New cock inserted into the equation, suddenly wife is hapy
Yeah so logically, the passion was ignited by this new cock and by nothing else.
Halfjor 10y ago
This analysis is spot on. I wish I could give out ♂'s.
Exactly. Chad Thundercock gave her those tingles so well that her view of BB husband was irreversibly shattered.
Her branch swing totally failed, so she's probably hoping she can give some pity sex and get back in BB husband's good graces. Get back into the safe shelter of his income. I'd bet money that she'll try to have more threesomes with newer guys as soon as she possibly can. Women are killer manipulators.
This is make or break. He's either going to separate himself from his slut wife, or become a world class cuck. How do you think guys get to that point? The point where they are sharing their wife with a bunch of other dudes, yet they aren't getting any side pussy. It's this shit. The slippery slope. His wife is probably going to erode his sense of pride. His sense of personal values. This guy knows something is wrong. He feels it in his gut. He should take some fucking action, but what does he say?
This is the initial step in him becoming a cuckold. Of course he feels walked all over. He might be too big of a pussy to take control and get the hell out of the relationship though.
makethemsayayy 10y ago
This is different than hearing she cheated though. You were right there. You have an actual fucking memory to attach to it.
How the fuck you allow this...I do not understand.
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I just don't even know what the fuck goes on in these guys' minds. I was borderline retarded back in my BP days, but damn..
HighFlyPheonix 10y ago
Half of this post was hyperbole. The meat of the post was good, didn't need to embellished with minor details that may or may not have happened.
watersign 10y ago
"i feel kind of cuckholded" haahaah bro, YOU'VE JUST BEEN CUCKHOLDED!!
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a_nus 10y ago
Poor guy is gonna get a bunch of shit advice in that sub and take it to heart.
Interversity 10y ago
I read the comments, almost universally tell him to get the fuck out of there and to never speak to her again. A lot of 'why would you want to be with someone who thinks you're plan B?' straight from Mark Manson.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
Everyone knows TRP is the truth except beta males. Feminists use powertalk to describe why they hate it and their beta white knights rally behind them because they don't understand powertalk. When you decode the powertalk, the reason feminists hate it is because last thing they want is betas swallowing the pill, because that means more alphas and less providers. Third wave feminism is just one giant collective shit test.
Interversity 10y ago
Ever since reading all six of Rao's columns on powertalk, my perspective on life has been radically shifted. It's like a whole aspect of life that was just invisible became crystal clear.
Speaking of, do you know of any other resources for learning more about powertalk? I'd say it's one of the most important facets to learn in TRP.
cocaine_face 10y ago
I'd go so far as to say powertalk fluency/understanding the process of communication is the largest advantage TRP has over just plain PUA.
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laughkisskill 10y ago
Yes. Marketing and management textbooks. Ignore leadership textbooks, as they're a dime a dozen and usually a thinly veiled advertisement for a few sponsoring, expensive, leadership seminars or groups.
Power talk is plausible deniability and bartering subterfuge. That is all. Nothing more. Learn it or eventually be brutally used and tossed.
favours_of_the_moon 10y ago
I've seen this before. He was saying LET'S TRY KINK in order to try to find a way to get some from his own wife.
faded_jester 10y ago
Wow this guy served himself up a massive shit sandwich and immediately started crying when he found out it actually tasted like shit. Then he tries his hardest to blame anything but what's between the bread. It's shit man.....just shit.
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TheRedThrowAwayPill 10y ago
11 years together? Wanna stay together?
MAKE BABIES
That's how you end up staying together and not boring of each other for decades. You build a house. These two should have done that already.
Thankfully, he now gets to dump her and get a girl at least 4-5 years his younger.
redmeatball 10y ago
You let another man fuck your wife, what do you expect really?
Jokoran 10y ago
I feel really sorry for him if he accepts this. He really doesn't think he can do any better.
Supracats 10y ago
Want to keep the piece? You married HER! Not twelve other fucking people. them out of your bed idiot.
thegr8b8m8 10y ago
When I saw this post on my front page this morning I was hoping to see a good breakdown of this beta behavior on TRP.
smokingtransistor 10y ago
Is that dude a troll ?! Gotta be a troll ?! For the love of god i hope the story's not real. Realizing that there could be poor chumps like that scares the shit oout of me. The level of control these women have other them is incredible! If he's not a troll, then he 's like a shell that can't think for himself. In other words he's lack of rational thinking is frightening. He sounds too childish, almost like a person lost in the woods. He does not know what to do and what or how to think.
grut4 10y ago
Another idiot who wants to live out porn fantasies.
hamstercide 10y ago
These kinds of stories just make me sad now. I've been reading this sub for over a year now and this just jades me more and chips away at my faith in humanity. It's like a roadside accident I can't avoid looking at.
my_redpill_account 10y ago
She probably lied to chad about her husband or told him she would say it's a threesome then tell her husband he wasn't comfortable.
At the same time fuck it there doesn't need to be an explanation they're both dumb.
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