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oldredder 8y ago
obviously super-ambiguous. Any subreddit could be next for random reasons and many subreddits breaking those rules will be left alone without question.
dickinlipss 8y ago
It's hilarious how any mention of SRS is met with crickets from the admin. They do more to harass and make reddit a worse place then all those places combined. The femicunts have infiltrated at the top.
areyousrslol 8y ago
Of course. They are the authoritarian left, so no opposition is allowed.
BannedBandit 8y ago
Are the people posting on SRS taking the piss? All these posts about silencing the white man and drinking male tears are a joke right?
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I just got myself inadvertently double-banned from SRS. I said something like "Joining the sub. anything that upsets the SJWs enough to be mentioned on Content Policy is probably good for society."
The banhammer was swift. lol
I was also called a shitbag. My feelings are a little hurt, and I could use a cuddle.
drallcom3 8y ago
We only hand out kicks in the ass.
ether_reddit 8y ago
awww. :( http://i.imgur.com/YziBlJ4.jpg
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KobeHardensMyDirk 8y ago
/u/Spez weighed in on SRS here.
Basically it comes down to r/coontown makes it harder for Reddit to attract quality advertisers. It has nothing to do with them not breaking, or breaking rules. We all know for years SRS has been blatantly and openly breaking the rules. In addition, r/srs are the thought police that advertisers are afraid to offend. Their existence, and policing, insures that Reddit is a safe place for advertisers. This is why they won't get the ban hammer.
Unbelievable how much shit has gone on here the last few months just for it to end up with communities getting banned for no other reason than "we dont want them here".
Flareprime 8y ago
Certain kinds of people live for drama and calling people out. They thrive on social media where you don't have to look anyone in the eye. srs probably drives a bunch of traffic from those types
Nicholas_ 8y ago
" They thrive on social media where you don't have to look anyone in the eye"
95% of shit talkers online are this.
Both male and female.
fuckin_retard 8y ago
What the fuck did you just say to me?
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Say it to my face, you cunt.
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max_peenor 8y ago
Reddit is not a viable business. They tried to monitize iAMA and it turned into a total disaster. They will get more desperate as they burn through the money and approach death.
exotube 8y ago
Reddit is an advertiser's dream. Much like facebook, you have a huge user base who compulsively uses the service and tells you exactly what they are interested in. The amount of data associated with your account is more than enough to bombard you with targeted advertisements or sell to others to do the same thing.
Not to mention sponsored posts. Imagine what this place will look like during the 2016 elections if campaign ads can buy a place at the top of the front page or upvotes can be bought to push your ad/drown out others.
max_peenor 8y ago
You have an odd concept of huge. They aren't even close.
And you think this crowd would tolerate that? You see, reddit hasn't really even tried anything like this yet--facebook was on it straight out of the gates.
Yes, keep poisoning the pool. Facebook was not an open forum. It was a social and game platform. Here the users do all the content work. They aren't going to tolerate that sort of shit if they aren't getting a free game or a chance to creep that hot chick from high school.
Oh dear god, I can hardly imagine the open warfare that would erupt between the users, mods and admins. They should definitely try that. That would be fucking awesome to watch.
exotube 8y ago
What I said was that both sites have a huge user base who compulsively use them and willingly provide information about their preferences. Active users are essentially creating a guide for advertisers and the only question is when reddit decides to monetize that data. 195 million unique page views in a month isn't something to ignore if you're an advertiser.
Reddit users might leave en mass from tailored ads but I really doubt it. These types of advertising are more and more prevalent across the web and Reddit already shows sponsored links at the top of users front page. Also, while much of the front page content can be found elsewhere, the more obscure subreddits really don't have good alternatives. I think you underestimate how much users will tolerate advertisements disguised as content when they fit their view point.
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max_peenor 8y ago
Well, tried to respond but it got yanked because of a link to Alexa or some bullshit.
Can't really make the point about traffic without it so I guess we are done.
Thatonebutt 8y ago
Oh boohoo. All the coontown posters can go back to stormfront and get the fuck off of reddit.
leftajar 8y ago
The irony is, coontown has been on good behavior for quite awhile -- they were well aware that they've been in the crosshairs.
Most of them are alts anyway, so it's not like these people went away. They just went incognito.
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The irony is coontown was mentioned by fucking name as a safe subreddit by the CEO less than a month ago
calicotrinket 8y ago
Funnily enough, as much as I don't like Coontown, they don't spill over to other subs. Unlike the morons in SRS.
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drallcom3 8y ago
Racoons are cute while they're still babies
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LuvBeer 8y ago
Nah, a good amount of us used our regular usernames. I've only been on reddit for a year and a half, but it's quite quickly transforming itself into just another PC echo chamber.
2akurate 8y ago
I used my real username too, not using your real name is almost the same as accepting defeat.
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Making TwoX a default sub is kind of insulting to a predominantly male userbase. I took a break from reddit for a while and when I came back I was surprised by the shift in tone
my_redpill_account 8y ago
Even women that were there were upset cause it just flooded with annoying dudes. I don't mind the sub, it's where women congregate to do women stuff.
As long as they don't invade male space and change it, they can have their own and I will ignore it exists.
redpillersinparis 8y ago
You really think so? I don't see how it's insulting to me.
Modified_Hackware 8y ago
I wish that someone had the balls to answer the question:
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KobeHardensMyDirk 8y ago
I hope the day comes that people just respond with "I don't care what you think" in regards to leftist attacks.
HoundDogs 8y ago
The idea of an "Alt" is even changing now. The controversial subreddits that they quarantined demand an active personal e-mail address just to access them. Got that? They want to keep a standing log of all the personal e-mail addresses of people who look at controversial shit.
leftajar 8y ago
Holy shit. I mean, they'll just make throwaway emails. But still -- what other rationale could there be, other than to facilitate the identifying and harassing of dissenters?
HoundDogs 8y ago
I honestly am at the point now that I know the admins are, at the least, huge SJW sympathizers. I don't use reddit on my verified account any more because it could doxx me. I just don't trust them. There's nothing stopping an SJW admin from secretly sending an e-mail address to one of their fembot blogger friends with black horn rims and no soul who can dig up, publicize, and shame someones entire identity if they want.
leftajar 8y ago
Whoa -- I completely forgot about my verified email. I went ahead and removed that just now. Thanks.
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Sangria_and_Soccer 8y ago
Pretty stupid how ex- r/coontown members are posting here and alerting the powers that be that we are harboring some of them. As if we needed another reason to be banned. And for the other black folk reading here don't worry about it, just keep raising that SMV and fucking white women. Every time you do so the racists die a little inside.
edit: every downvote is another white girl I'll work to pull, let's make this fun guys.
Romans12-9 8y ago
Why can't you stay with your own women? Don't you take pride in your heritage?
colinKaepernicksHat 8y ago
Go back to pol with the cuck posting
Konstrukt1 8y ago
I don't think you're doing gentlemen of colour a favour by encouraging them to go for mudsharks. They are hopeless bundles of daddy issues and psychological problems that you really don't want to get into.
-The-Prestige- 8y ago
Don't worry, we do. As the SMV goes up, more white women go down.
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It's the museum of poop. You know where the poop is, if you like the poop look, if you don't like it then don't look. Just whatever you do, don't touch it or you'll get poop everywhere.
pag_el 8y ago
As someone else mentioned, go back to /pol/ with the cuck talk
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NaClAgNO3 8y ago
Guess the Asians, Arabians, and Latin Americans can breathe a sigh of relief.
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gabrielshekelstein 8y ago
I can't wait to see what happens when white people go extinct. Will the U.S. look more like Brazil or Africa? Will Europe be some Islamic hellhole? Different ethnic groups have different DNA and it's been proven by simply looking at places full of Africans that African DNA cannot sustain a first world standard of living.
So keep fucking white women! When we're gone, you'll have nobody to blame for your problems. :)
GingersInParis 8y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somaliland
Does this look like some "Islamic hellhole"? I highly doubt it.
ThaDilemma 8y ago
They'll still blame it on someone else.
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mattizie 8y ago
Mate don't be silly. Everyone knows black people are more than capable of running their own countries. Just look at central Africa!
Tom_The_Human 8y ago
Or the United States!
Also > Implying that Africa isn't a shit hole thanks to US foreign policy.
gabrielshekelstein 8y ago
Yup lol. Just blame U.S. foreign policy. That totally makes sense and isn't laughable.
chill1995 8y ago
If it wasn't for US foreign policy and foreign aid Africa would have destroyed itself completely long ago.
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Hatorader 8y ago
http://www.unz.com/freed/are-white-men-gods-ii/
mattizie 8y ago
Thanks man, I don't think I'm wrong in saying that, in all my posts on reddit thus far, this is first time I've received something like this.
Usually it's just insults and cries of racism, and any link is to a pro immigration, everyone is equal, cesspool of bullshit, harboured on what is easily proven to be false "evidence".
Made my day.
Cheers.
Hatorader 8y ago
Yeah man. for how progressive trp thinks they are and for all they're cries for adaptation. They're still pussies when it comes to being politically correct
Hatorader 8y ago
I hope you read the article. There was a better blog called Kakistocracy.wordpress that I was gonna link to also. But it's been taken down. You can probably guess why. This society is going down and when all the mudsharks come crawling back for help. I will step on their dirty faces with my boots and push then aside.
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FleischKind 8y ago
We'll just copy you guys and blame the Joos
Mobrowncheeks 8y ago
Wow that just really blew my mind. You are so stupid
gabrielshekelstein 8y ago
Ad hominem attacks like you read about...
Mobrowncheeks 8y ago
Anyone can go on the internet and find an article that " proves racial Superiority over another through "testing".
ForAHamburgerToday 8y ago
Go on, explain how this is 'science' and not more racist nonsense.
gabrielshekelstein 8y ago
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fury-at-dna-pioneers-theory-africans-are-less-intelligent-than-westerners-394898.html
James Watson, of course. He's the man who won a Nobel Prize in 1962 for discovering DNA. Are you mad, brah?
ForAHamburgerToday 8y ago
8 years ago an old man who helped make a discovery 50 years ago dismissed everyone in Africa as less intelligent 'because of their genes.'
But yeah, you're definitely not just a coontown runaway here to turn TRP into your own supremacist soapbox.
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Flynn_lives 8y ago
I used my main account...and that was the entire point. More than half of the discussions there were frought with people telling stories, or others trying desperately to not get the sub banned.
WingTune0 8y ago
Same here, I always used my main on coontown.
coontown never broke any rules, and if it got banned, then it's likely TRP is next.
IsItJustified 8y ago
TRP won't be banned unless they start banning more neutral/meta subs like Tia/Kia. This sub may be quarantined at most but I highly doubt it'll be a ban since it isn't an overtly bigoted sub. Regardless this reddit space has ran its course and getting banned is pointless since the users will just find a home elsewhere
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I_ADMIRE_HITLER 8y ago
Or if... you know... a feminist writes a huffpo article about trp aimed at reddits advertisers.
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full_package 8y ago
They have a final solution for us in form of quarantine. "No ad revenue is made, yet we let them brood alone, away from public eye". To be honest, I like this approach and this is what TRP needs. There's no need to attract unwanted attention. Whoever needs to find this sub will eventually stumble upon it one way or another.
But if they ban us here, they won't win much. I'll delete this account and unsub my main from all but few very specialized subs related to my hobbies. Fuck, maybe I should do this now anyway, I've been wasting too much time on reddit anyway.
Sure there's an outright hypocrisy in coontown vs SRS, but I don't give a shit about either of them and, besides, I'm used to hypocrisy in this world. Isn't accepting it a part of the pill?
Cmyers1980 8y ago
How do they make reddit a worse place?
I've never been on it so I don't know why people hate it so much.
kanji_sasahara 8y ago
Imagine how terrible an average, angry decent sized gathering is. Now amplify that by a million times and you've got a decent idea of what reddit is like.
To be fair there are many smaller subs that sort of stick to themselves, but all the defaults are filled with crazy.
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thor_away92 8y ago
TRPs not getting banned just because a bunch of whiney sluts and fat losers find it "offensive". If they ban TRP because the women cried about, that will do nothing but 100% confirm our idealogies. It's honestly a win-win for TRP.
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
Coontown can say the same thing dontcha think?
thor_away92 8y ago
Sure, but you can find a productive post instantly with TRP.
Women aside, TRP still contains relevant and useful information. With 120k subscribers they generate some kind of revenue from the sub alone. I'd wager when you're thinking in terms of your money, you'll collectively use logic over emotion, because if emotion truly ran reddit (not the users, those actually running it.) Shit would have fallen apart years ago.
The point I'm trying to make is removing TRP, financially, would be a stupid idea.
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
Good point. I think its the principle that most people are having beef with.
bootsiejenkins 8y ago
lol@ butthurt stormfront faggots that are too pussy to express their views outside of a computer or under hushed tones.. not alpha.
tehwankingwalruses 8y ago
It shows two comments, but only one post. Someone is shadowbanned.
NidStyles 8y ago
Says six and there is only three for me.
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CharlieIndiaShitlord 8y ago
I'm not positive on this, but that could also be new users who try to post immediately after making a new account. TRP makes people wait (24h?) before being able to post.
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redpillschool Admin 8y ago
There's nothing admin going on here, short comments and comments of new accounts are autodeleted by automod.
CharlieIndiaShitlord 8y ago
I should have mentioned automod, my wording could have been better.
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Atavisionary 8y ago
How short is too short? Just curious. A sub I mod has a similar rule and comparison would be nice.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
We don't publish the rules because we don't want people writing to skirt them, rather we want people to write meaninful posts.
Atavisionary 8y ago
That makes sense in a sub this size I suppose. For now we just warn then ban people who violate the rule, but otherwise are pretty open about how it works.
Anarox 8y ago
Chairman Pao!! Oh what you got rid of that one.
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xfLyFPS 8y ago
We need a Gorbachev to end the whole thing.
87GNX 8y ago
Soooo more feminine, in other words.
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CuntyMcFagNuts69 8y ago
In the famous words of Mike Jones "Back then hoes didn't want me, now I'm hot hoes all on me"
Bring it feminazis, show us this power you have
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markfeel 8y ago
We're next. Might take a while, but at this rate I think it's inevitable.
greatGoD67 8y ago
Reddit isn't that stupid. They'll keep us but "quarantined".
i_forget_my_userids 8y ago
That's what they said about negrotown
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goemon45 8y ago
Wonder how the other black members of this sub are doing in this thread now
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Flynn_lives 8y ago
I went there to tell my stories. They weren't made up. Now there isn't a place to go.
You lie, you get banned, you cheat you get banned....you tell the truth---yup that's getting banned too.
BlueFreedom420 8y ago
Im concerned cus I usually want to punch the "average redditor" AKA liberal indoctrinated sheep.
shelcod 8y ago
I like to hope that the reddit admins are smart enough to realize that r/TheRedPill is nothing like any of the sub reddits getting banned. People only hate this subreddit because it goes against what society tells us to do and our detractors will always post the same couple of threads to try and make us look bad, but besides that this is a good subreddit.
Skater_Goy 8y ago
How could that not apply to Coontown? They never systematically called for violence, harrassed, doxxed, etc. Most of the time when a user attempted to do anything remotely similar to that stuff the automod would nix it and the rest, the mods would remove it. They obeyed the rules better than any other sub I've ever seen but they were shut down for going against the narrative- a trait that TRP shares.
shelcod 8y ago
Fair point. I never really looked at Coontown to be honest, but the general idea of the red pill isn't to hate women, It's to help protect men from a society that generally favors women.
When I hear the name "Coontown" I get the feeling that most of it's users hate black people just because they're black, but I never get the feeling in this subreddit that this group is about hating women just because they're women, we just hate some of the advantages that they have and wish to worn other men about what could happen.
Skater_Goy 8y ago
I can guarantee you that not even the most ardent, pissed off coontowner hates anyone based on skin color of all traits, let alone their origin or anything of that sort. Nobody gives a shit about how much melanin is being produced or they'd be a cult dedicated to the worship of albino people.
In order to understand a coontowner's mind it's best not to focus on melanin levels- rather testosterone levels and the frequencies of genes including MAOA and ADRA2b. The state of being black comes with dozens of other implications that arise from the history, genetics, and culture of African people. They don't hate blacks due to blacks being different from whites or Asians, they hate blacks because of how some of those differences manifest when blacks interact with other races. And that's assuming that all of them hate blacks, which some of them don't.
VirgoRooster 8y ago
Coontown didn't really run itself like TRP did, though. I mean, as long as we're admitting this whole ordeal is about advertising revenue...
...Coontown had a racial epithet in its name, prominently featured pictures of real persons with the intent of making them look foolish, made cheap jabs at racial stereotypes... Point being: Say I'm an advertiser. Someone calls me up on the phone. "Hey, hey! Look at this website where your ad is being featured!" and it takes me to Coontown. I'm going to nope the fuck out of that situation and get reddit HQ on the line fast. With TRP? It probably won't irk me as much.
TRP conducts itself much better than Coontown does -- usually, at least.
I agree that in actuality, all ideas no matter how offensive should be given equal standing until they can be disproven with hard evidence! But if we're admitting it's about ad revenue... TRP is in a much better position than that sub was.
Skater_Goy 8y ago
That's a fair point.
Still, all the more proof that it was about shekels all along.
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UgUgImDyingYouIdiot 8y ago
There was a lot of media around coontown on big websites before the ban. Once you see trp on front of huffpo we got problems
veyron3003 8y ago
pretty sure gw is full of fatties anyways.
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It'll never happen. Gonewild is Reddit's chief export of generating inflated egos and beta voyeurism.
aodh1 8y ago
I rub out to gonewild. I see it's use for me
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dr_warlock 8y ago
Dark Enlightenment talks about that too. People tend to naturally gravitate to their own race. Coerced coexistance doesnt work.
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Gynecomastia appropriates trans culture, shitlord. Stay in your lane. ^^^^/s
MelodyMyst 8y ago
"which entails applying a set of restrictions to a community so its content will only be viewable to those who explicitly opt in."
Isn't that what the subscribe button is for?
Tqbfjotlds 8y ago
That's exactly what I was thinking. I guess this will restrict new users from seeing content and even subscribing to the sub.
juanlee337 8y ago
personally, I think this is not good for reddit openness which brought me here , but monetarily this is great for reddit. Even with so much traffic, advertisers will never come to reddit with these subs intact. Reddit will do everything for its survival and attract advertisers that can keep the site growing and making the owners rich. Freedom of expression is a farse. Money talks.
neptronix 8y ago
That's what it really boils down to. Reddit received incredible amounts of investor cash last year, and it should be no surprise that they are suddenly on a rampage.
Brian_Official 8y ago
It means "to annoy redditors*"
Heraclitus94 8y ago
What a brave new world we live in.
Squeezymypenisy 8y ago
It's one website run by a company. They can do what they want.
Heraclitus94 8y ago
Yeah, but it's a popular website and this whole environment of political correctness and an idea of a world everybody is right, nobody is wrong, trophies for participation is very scary and raising a generation that isn't very open minded and cannot stand up for its beliefs
iLLprincipLeS 8y ago
too much open mindness would make people think twice about buying a product.
Squeezymypenisy 8y ago
Honestly most generations are not open minded. Who are the most vocal groups against Muslims in the United States? The same people who thought communists were everywhere. I would say this generation is more open minded in some areas than previous generations, and more close-minded in others. The trophy thing started in the 90s and before that.
Heraclitus94 8y ago
In some areas
But in the area of freedom of speech I'd give it an F
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Jason-Genova 8y ago
They seek, they colonize and then they feminize.
user6580 8y ago
Majority of coontown posts showed evidence that immigration from 3rd world countries is a bad thing, and that these immigrants cause rape and crime to go up.
Listing facts is annoying redditors.. the red pill is next.
DreadLockedHaitian 8y ago
Majority of coontown posts showed evidence that immigration from 3rd world countries is a bad thing
So we're just going to ignore the fact that Coon is a derogatory name for Black people and not specifically immigrants?
Brian_Official 8y ago
This. Especially the wombo-combo of an open boarder welfare state and it's ill effects on the local society.
But the feelz are more important.
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Yet despite that we should have the same policy as norway. Would totally work here! /s
sushisection 8y ago
But they do provide Uber drivers so there's that
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All the uber drivers ive had have been white 30+ dudes except for the occasional driver but all of them are homegrown. And i live in a big city on the eastern seaboard so... Idk man
VirgoRooster 8y ago
All the Uber drivers I've had were homegrown, older, grisled paramedics and firemen.
Like, the sort of people you wouldn't even expect to know what Uber is. lol
SEND_ME_QUEEFS 8y ago
The fact that FPH was first says it all. Fuck these fat pieces of human garbage.
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I'm half black and coontown never "annoyed" me. I just ignored it. I don't know why people on reddit can't just ignore shit.
Bwhitty23 8y ago
See that gives them agency and these fucks want nothing to do with accountability and responsibility. Yeah I'm black and I've visited it once to see what it was then I left and haven't had to deal with it since. What is so hard about not going to places that "annoy" you?
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These nanny administrations don't want the victim groups of current society to leverage their status against possible profit. Coontowns very existence threatened it. People can't be counted on to do the right thing or the mature thing, anyways.
squarehead93 8y ago
As is so often, the real takeaway from anything can be boiled down to one sentence. It's about making reddit more profitable. To get their advertising dollars, the good people reddit can't have all these "hate" subs kicking around. Never mind most of them mind their own fucking business and keep to themselves. It doesn't look good to the advertisers. If they really wanted to ban "hateful" or "harassing" subs, SRS, SRD, and their whole network would be the first to go.
kommissar_chaR 8y ago
I posted a couple things with the same mentality (reddit.com is banning subs to boost ad hits/sponsors) just to see what would happen. It's fun refreshing my comment page to see which ones switched from neg to positive every hour or so.
I don't care if reddit wants to monetize itself, it's just funny when they also want to be the front page of the internet.
johnnight 8y ago
It's their site and they can do what they want to make money and we can't stop them. But they don't have to be such Orwellian dishonest cunts while doing it.
They can't both ban unmonetizable speech and claim to be the shining beacon of free speech. I mean, technically they can, but not without people calling out their BS.
CaptainGlobal 8y ago
What subs got banned other than coontown?
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As far as I can see, just a bunch of its sister subs (all with coon or nigger in the name).
Olipyr 8y ago
A couple of porn subs, as well. Don't know which ones as I never visited those, but from my understanding they were animations of children or something.
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thejewcooker 8y ago
They banned a lot of the male henti subs.
BruhBrehBro 8y ago
male as in for males?
or of males?
thejewcooker 8y ago
For males, the ones for women are still up.
thiasus 8y ago
And I don't blame them one bit. It's a company. It was inevitable that they were going to start working on making it profitable or the investors would pull out and this place would close.
This sub is about facing reality. The reality is that reddit is a company. You can't blame a company for trying to make money, or rather you can but it won't do a damn thing. What you can do is adapt your strategy to that fact. It seems to me (but I'm not an insider or a mind reader) that what our mods did by preparing forums to bail out to is exactly this: accepting that we can't talk reddit into being what it's not, and working around that fact to protect our best interests.
Xemnas81 8y ago
Inwas going to say this? Redpill reality is not just restricted to the SMP
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The problem IMO is when they try to take a false moral high ground to justify their actions. Call it what it is, or apply fairness equally to everyone. But if you have integrity then you dont get to do both. I dont feel that expecting a company to behave ethically is asking too much.
through_a_ways 8y ago
This is how everything in human society works.
high quality, weak profit/power, sparsely populated/sparsely selling --> word of mouth --> mass popularity and quality degeneration, high profit/power, original character of thing is lost
It holds for products, companies, the restaurant down the street, nations, etc.
dickinlipss 8y ago
Digg said the same thing. I'm eager for the migration at this point.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
It may come sooner than we think!
squarehead93 8y ago
And that's what I love about this place. Most other subs would bitch and moan about the oncoming wave of censorship. We'll post about it just to alert the other members about our sub, but the collective reaction is largely one of, "alright, this is gonna happen at some point, so we've prepared for it, therefore it shouldn't be a huge problem."
TuesdayRB 8y ago
I'm not at all surprised that a community about masculinity reacts this way.
ThrowyMcGruder 8y ago
It should be standard.
Here's good ol' Bill Burr candy-coating it in terms of the NFL.
Wraithwain 8y ago
Simply more proof that the old "a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do" isn't something we were trained to do, it's more as if it was written in our genes.
chill1995 8y ago
It's in our nature as rational thinking males.
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True, they are a for profit company and they should be after making a profit. I see nothing wrong with criticizing their methods though. They seem to be sacrificing long term viability for short term gains. Reddit was, and is becoming less so, a rather unique vehicle that attracted a great many eyeballs and became one of the largest sites on the internet because of it's unique platform that allowed pretty much free form discussion of anything with next to no censorship on a subscription based model. This model had been done successfully in the past with sites like Slashdot, Digg, SA, Fark, and probably more. Each site that has done this has failed in the long run due to an attempt to overly aggressively monetize by catering to advertisers. It's a tough business and no one has been able to hold on to it for more than a few years for a lot of reasons, the need to censor for short term profits being a big one. I love reading good debate about how such a company SHOULD be run.
Xeusi 8y ago
You know you'd think they'd be able to monetize trp subs pretty easily actually. Gym products, fitness, health, razors...men's products...condoms...and they are just some advertisements I can think of that this would be the right market for. Education, and guns would be other options too.
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Yes, but reddit wants to advertise tampons to everyone. It makes it easier. If we all become transgender it becomes so much easier.
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Or value added paid options that made a fucking difference. Gold is a fucking joke, but I've used reddit as a main source of news and information for 10 years. I'd think they could come up with something to sell me that wasn't just a circlejerk forum.
fakenate1 8y ago
I don't think proctor and gamble, the maker of most razor products, would want to advertise here.
Imagine some news story in a ladies magazine pointing out how the maker of Venus razors is advertising in this sub.
There can be, of course, more niche companies that can advertise here... But they probably don't have the advertising budget to make reddit profitable.
Xeusi 8y ago
That's why you as a company you actually create a subsidized llc just for each line so each even if it's all one pool of money and the same buildings are able to separate for images.
You want separate images for different groups just to be able to market better to them even if it is just the same product, but re-branded.
fakenate1 8y ago
While that is what companies do, see luxottica (bet you didn't know that every piece of eye ware in your house was made by the same company) P&G would still own the spinoffs. And the same issue will be present.
Xeusi 8y ago
Not really, you see the LDS church owns a slew of businesses and most don't realize how many actually are owned by trustees/church heads. You could use similar marketing techniques and apply them on a large scale.
It's just a matter of how you tailor each and how you moderate each 'brand'. You can do this by having a trustees and property set up a certain way too. It's perhaps worth looking into for scaling down the road.
KobeHardensMyDirk 8y ago
Reddit is on it's way to being the progressive hug box they always wanted it to be. They look at buzzfeed monetizing the shit out of crap post (with content mostly coming from reddit), and they want to emulate.
my_redpill_account 8y ago
Wouldn't doubt there's a merger being discussed between reddit and buzzfeed
fakenate1 8y ago
What else would you expect from a sanfrancisco based company?
KobeHardensMyDirk 8y ago
Tolerance for alternative view points and beliefs? Wait, that's only important when they are your view points and beliefs.
DreadLockedHaitian 8y ago
Coontown is racist. Good. Fuck 'em
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AreoWolf 8y ago
Racism isn't okay but sexism is?
DreadLockedHaitian 8y ago
What Sexism!?!?!? I have no issues with women. I am more than likely to vote for Hillary. I voted for Martha Coakley in the last MA election cycle. Coontown is deff racist. TRP is male empowerment. Big difference.
AreoWolf 8y ago
One of the biggest red pill chants is AWALT, and it is innately sexist.
oldredder 8y ago
and yet is 100% accurate. So truth is what gets banned.
AreoWolf 8y ago
I don't think you can speak for 3.418 billion people.
oldredder 8y ago
I can and I'm right. Describes you too.
AreoWolf 8y ago
I love how you generalize an entire population. Women are stupid! They don't deserve respect! Men are the only ones who deserve my respect! I sleep with women all the time to prove how stupid they are! I'm not romantically attractived to women at all because they're so dumb! I only care about what men think of me. I fucking love men! I love fucking men! I love cock!
Altiumbe 8y ago
Say what you will, but he's right.
AreoWolf 8y ago
The RedPill has some very excellent points, and can help men a ton in personal success, sexual conquest, ect. But it is also often sexist.
Altiumbe 8y ago
This is exactly what I was saying.
Stalgrim 8y ago
-and now to ban "SRS". :| Oh wait, the assholes running the show like those pricks...
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Eloni 8y ago
Like bbwgonewild. Can't think of a much worse sub than that.
[deleted] 8y ago
Maybe is my terrible discipline, but I would welcome the move to pue, I can finally leave the shithole that reddit is
Rougepellet 8y ago
That's a shame. As a black man I found coontown interesting. Though extremely biased due to their racist notions, they still raised some interesting thoughts and points for me.
neptronix 8y ago
Kudos for being open minded. I'm a white man and find that sub pretty fucking awful. Why? they think of an entire group of people one way based on statistics. Feminists love doing this too. This is a form of hateful collectivism..
Statistics can say things about a group as a whole, but say nothing about an individual.There's something to derive from statistics, but demonizing every individual in a group based on them just adds another log onto the fire that burns the world.
Rougepellet 8y ago
That was one of the reasons I never really agreed with the sub. I'll be honest they raised some valid points but they believed ABALT. All blacks are like that, due to their racial genetic makeup or something.
Just_in78 8y ago
It's hilarious because coontown in spite of its views, was quite the quaint and law abiding community. They United under their mutual hate for a people, followed the rules, and got banned anyway because people complained.
Coontown never banned feminists if they tried to argue with coontown's views. Mods would only ban people if they broke the standard reddit rules, unlike various other subs where different opinions get you banned. They enjoyed the discussions SJW's would bring and shooting them down with facts and evidence, and even had a stickied thread a few days ago daring any SJW lurkers to challenge them and prove them wrong.
Coontown reported on crime that everyone else would ignore so that it wouldn't get swept under the rug.
Coontown held great discussions on evolution, genetics, testosterone levels, and the nature of intelligence/IQ and all of their relations to race.
Coontown was on their best behavior after the FPH incident, as to not get kicked out because they know people hated them.
And yet do you see thousands of coontown denizens brigading and raiding like the "niggers" they hate so much? No. they were different, but they were classy too.
pag_el 8y ago
The Coontown mods goes down as one of the best mods in reddit history. The mods were super active, kept the CSS up to date with hilarious banners. They enforced every reddit rule better than any other community, which forced the admins to change the rules in order to ban them. That's pretty pathetic.... ...and SRS continues with its brigading.
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The last point is what gets me. The sub was mentioned by name to be safe less than a month ago
I can respect decisions even if I disagree with them. What I cannot tolerate is being lied to
Just_in78 8y ago
Exactly, they had to change the rules to be able to ban coontown, and of course didn't give them any time to "change their ways." like a normal sub would be. They had been on good behavior for a long time, and any outbursts or overly extreme viewpoints were not tolerated. They didn't exist "solely to annoy other redditors", they were a tight knit community that enjoyed discussions and analyzing news, like any other.
Among those, advocating violence was a big no-no, and coontown was also victim to SJW's down vote brigading quite often and posting extreme comments from throwaways just to make coontown look bad, before their throwaway got banned of course.
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Agree on the not annoying other redditors line. You wouldn't know about them at all unless you sought them out
fewforwarding 8y ago
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
2dfx 8y ago
But yet we keep getting fooled again.
chwed2 8y ago
its not really being fooled when you see it coming, its more that we know theres nothing we can do to stop the inevitable -_-
rebuildingMyself 8y ago
Sounds like Pao was a fall guy for something everybody in the top seats wanted anyway
csehszlovakze 8y ago
r/conspiracy predicted that months before.
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2comment 8y ago
The problem with subs like that probably is the signal to noise ratio.
csehszlovakze 8y ago
It's not a problem with subs like that, that's the problem of every platform that's driven by user content and not guarded heavily for quality. The biggest example being YouTube.
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2comment 8y ago
I'm just going by the old conspiracy theory who shot JFK we didn't land on the moon arguments I remember.
I'll go check it out then.
[deleted] 8y ago
Definitely fell underneath 48LoP's Law 26: Keep Your Hands Clean, but then again, I am not so sure they're that smart.
I've certainly cut way back on my use of Reddit which is circling the drain---you can be sure that their next step will be to require Reddit Gold to start a new subreddit under the guise of "improving community quality" and after that they'll require Reddit Gold for existing subreddits less than some number of users. Welcome to the Long Tail of craven monetization of "social justice."
Throwaway9665 8y ago
If the numbers had been good she wouldn't have been sacrificed. She wasn't monetizing, hence, the boot.
rebuildingMyself 8y ago
Well they don't want another digg situation and reddit clones are sprouting up everywhere
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exuals 8y ago
Bet they don't even mention it.
They already know the comments will be filled with "BAN SRS, WORSE THAN KOONTOWN/TRP/MINORITYHATRED" and any logical defense of TRP will be hate buried in public reddit space.
undead_keyboard 8y ago
It might be worth it just for that.
fakenate1 8y ago
The same ban hammer hit coontown's sister subreddits. With the same explanation.
Silence.
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Meglomaniac 8y ago
Looking at the reasons they are banning things, I dont think TRP is on thier shitlist.
The hate towards us is limited, and the more that people focus on actually helping people, the less ammunition they will have.
CuntyMcFagNuts69 8y ago
Do you have any popcorn recipes that will help my gains? I'll be eating a fuck ton of it
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I make my popcorn out of steak. GAINS, bro!
Rathadin 8y ago
They're all brainwashed by us, of course. They're a threat to the empowered womyn culture embraced on Reddit, so off the island they go. We'll be towing them behind us in another makeshift raft.
my_redpill_account 8y ago
I feel TRP women are way more empowered. They know how women work and rise above to do what they wanna do. That's an intelligent woman for you.
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_eskimo_brothers_ 8y ago
In the words of the great 20th/21st century poet, Marshall Mathers:
"If I can't batter the women how the fuck am I supposed to bake them a cake then?"
trp_hamlet 8y ago
TRP and its offshoots getting banned would be equivalent to a law-abiding member of the NRA getting his guns confiscated by the federal government.
The sweet, delicious validation is coming!
Sepean 8y ago
What, no. The government (backed by armed men willing to commit violence) taking away people's personal possessions is nothing like not being allowed to use a corporation's servers.
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You're correct. Reddit as a private company allow you to use their servers.
The government taking your guns is confiscation of property.
"I'm not letting you use my stuff any more" is wholly different from "I'm taking your stuff"
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We're oppressed and abused, they are our white knights in shining armor - liberating us from the patriarchy! /s
Olipyr 8y ago
M'lady, I've come to free you from this oppression. We can subsist on the Cheetos crumbs in m'neckbeard and filter my pee into Mountain Dew.
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ARE YOU TRYING TO RAPE ME?
Olipyr 8y ago
Shhhh, m'lady....Just continue to suckle on my ample bosom. I've become so feminized that m'teets produce milk.
I haven't seen that evil penis of mine for years. It's buried in my fupa vagina. I feel so in touch with my inner female.
crippled_squid 8y ago
Coontown deserved to be banned. The sub was full of people just sharing their hatred of black people. It was like the confederate flag became sentient, started its own subreddit, then started burning crosses on peoples' lawns.
It deserved to be banned because not only did it not bring anything positive to reddit, but it was allowing these people to live in their negative state--of course they are free to do so, but they need to get help... maybe banning their hatereddit will inspire them to do so.
edit: Truth hurts?
2comment 8y ago
On whose lawns did Coontown burn crosses on?
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let_terror_reign 8y ago
Ingroup, outgroup, heretics, bla bla
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nerif_oracle21 8y ago
Yes they hated blacks, but kept to their own subreddit in terms of not harassing other redditors
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NidStyles 8y ago
So they should be banned for hating others because you don't like them, gotcha...
crippled_squid 8y ago
Brush up on your reading comprehension, friend. I may pity them, but I don't dislike anyone because of their beliefs. There are other websites you can go to if you want that kind of hateful content. It doesn't need to be pointed to as a representation of reddit. This site has a bad enough reputation as it is.
NidStyles 8y ago
It's not my reading comprehension that has issues buddy. It's your reasoning skills and lack of rational logic.
freeman45100 8y ago
Yeah sure, the confederate flag is a symbol of racism. Next you'll try and tell me the whole civil war was all about slavery.
That's just another flavor of bluepill. You should try and seek the truth about everything, not just the interactions between men and women.
crippled_squid 8y ago
The war had its origin in the fractious issue of slavery, especially the extension of slavery into the western territories. After four years of combat, which left over 600,000 Union and Confederate soldiers dead and destroyed much of the South's infrastructure, the Confederacy collapsed and slavery was abolished.
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
Revisionist history isn't cool, mmmkay?
sushisection 8y ago
Slavery in terms of its impact on the economy, not on human morality.
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.” - Abe Lincoln, fourth debate with Stephen A Douglas 1858
zeny_two 8y ago
If you truly believe that revisionist history isn't cool, you must logically accept that the goal of the Union was not equality for blacks. Both sides were equally racist, by today's standards.
tehwankingwalruses 8y ago
By that same logic, we should be banned because of what Reddit thinks of TRP.
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We're almost definitely going to be next. Coontown never doxxed or brigaded anyone and they still got banned. TRP and other male centered subreddits will be next on the hit list for the admins.
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sardinemanR 8y ago
Who knows, maybe we will be.
But I think Coontown and TRP are different. What is Coontown's redeeming feature? What exactly do they do besides be racist?
TRP tells you to improve yourself and gives you techniques and advice to do so. I think it's different.
Now I didn't spend much time in Coontown. I didn't like their message. I can't check now, so maybe there was a sidebar teaching you how to best protect yourself in hostile environments or how to earn money so that you can live in better neighborhoods or something like that. But I seriously doubt it. And even those are real stretches.
WingTune0 8y ago
coontowns' redeeming feature was spreading knowledge and information regarding something that people were blind to- racial tensions in the world. TRP works exactly the same way, but with gender and sexual issues in the world.
king_of_red_alphas 8y ago
People are blind to racial tensions? Have you turned on the fucking TV in the past 5 years?
CoonTown had no redeeming value. But that's precisely why it should be allowed to exist. Just like flag burning. The principle is what needs to be defended not the specific group.
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crippled_squid 8y ago
If you're comparing Red pill to Coontown then I'm glad I just unsubscribed from this sub.
undead_keyboard 8y ago
Nah. I was comparing the similarities between what the morality authoritarians over in TBP have to say about us and what you said about Coontown. Their rants are strikingly similar to your own.
If you can't get that through your head, especially with all the other comments you're getting that say the exact same thing I just did, then don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
crippled_squid 8y ago
I've never been a part of blue pill. I'm a man. I don't need those insecurities projected onto me. I believe in men's rights. That's why I was subscribed here to begin with. But I am not a sexist or a racist. Coontown is not a problem because it exposed statistical data combined by the FBI showing crime statistics, etc. It was a problem because of irrational hatred towards, what they called, N-words... which I witnessed myself for a brief period 1 day after Pao got fired. I tried to reason with some of them, the same way I have here, saying not all black people fall into their generalization. And in response I got stuff like "The only good n-word is a dead n-word!" Well the only good Coontown is a banned Coontown.
undead_keyboard 8y ago
Men's rights, huh? You know why several prominent MRAs still argue with feminists that are certifiably insane? It's not to convince the unconvinceable feminists. It's to show the fence sitters how insane they actually are. When you see an MRA calmly and rationally stating their argument and the feminist appealing to emotion, going the route of post modernist feels over facts, and making general asses out of themselves, it tells the fence sitters, "Hmm, maybe I don't want to be associated with that crazy feminist, and the MRA is making a good point."
By driving racists underground, they can use the banning as a way to give credibility to their arguments. "They fear what we have to say! They fear the truth!" You don't drive the crazy and the ignorant underground. You expose their idiocy to the light of day! You show the whole damn world how idiotic they actually are. Let them espouse their insane beliefs backed by their shitty analysis of their statistics, then keep up the fight of calmly and rationally breaking down how shitty their analysis is and let their insanity speak for itself.
You were winning, crippled_squid! You were doing exactly what you were supposed to be doing in exposing their stupidity! And now you say
For fuck's sake. What, did they hurt your feelings by disagreeing with you? Did your moral high horse get a little frightened? Trying to ban something just because it makes you uncomfortable doesn't solve the problem, it just drives it underground to fester instead of exposing it to the cleansing light of day. Clamping down on irrational hatred only increases the pressure. You've got to let the idiots blow off steam, and either point out how stupid they are to an audience (which they hate), or ignore them (which they hate more).
Edit: I wanted to clarify this point too.
I never said you were a part of TBP. I'm saying you are an authoritarian - somewhere in the upper portion of the political spectrum. I get the sense that most TBPers are authoritarian left, which you may be too. I honestly don't know.
fortifiedoranges 8y ago
You can say nigger here, faggot.
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Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
Regardless of whether that is true or not, the obvious concern is the implication. Now that the "racists" are gone, what will be the next target? SRS fits just about all of the above qualities deeming of immediate banning, but it is left alone and most everyone here obviously knows why.
I believe many of us acknowledge that we are on the "unpopular" list. It was posted here after the last wave of concern to be wary of the baiting from other subreddits to not give them any ammo when it comes time to drop the hammer. I saw some posts someone made where some coontown redditors did take the bait. My worry is that they were going to ban them anyway, regardless, and that we should all be prepared now. Missing the previous round of censorship may have made many complacent and we should all be ready to accept that each visit here could be the last and to seamlessly migrate.
Deezlutz 8y ago
No need to put the word racists in quotation marks.
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
Yeah I guess they aren't needed if we're going to be using broad brushes. Same as everyone here is a "sexist".
cloudstryfe 8y ago
But users of coontown are confirmed racists so...
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
You clearly missed the point because my obvious rebuttal is going to be then every person who has posted here is a definite, confirmed sexist. You could be right, but not with the logic you're using.
fortifiedoranges 8y ago
We're confirmed wife-beating misogynistic rapists according to the haters, doesn't matter what you really believe when the thought police come to town.
king_of_red_alphas 8y ago
Would you not call 2XC members feminists?
cloudstryfe 8y ago
At least trp has the barebones defense that we don't hate women written into the sidebar. Coontown,by virtue of it's very name, is racist. Absolutely no defending it. And everyone is crying about it being gone like it's some big tragedy? Are you serious right now? This isn't thought policing, all they did was ban a racist subreddit. There is no gray area, no “oh they weren't hurting anyone”.
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
The obvious concern is the implication of what is coming next. It isn't who was silenced, its that someone was silenced. Logical folks will deduce we are also on a list of controversial subreddits that may not be profiting Reddit.
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AnalLeak 8y ago
It's ridiculous that it got banned when there are other even more racist subreddits that exist such as black people twitter or whatever it's called. CT was really starting to get its shit together. At first it was "huur niggers", but it became a good place to get things off people's chest, backed with stats and real life examples of why people were fed up with the cucks enabling bad behaviors. It really opened my eyes to some things, and was part of my RP and DE enlightenment.
It also had news that MSM failed to report on. I'm not sure where to get uncensored news now, or news without all the fucking useless cuck commentary.
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CohnJunningham 8y ago
Blackpeopletwitter isn't a racist sub. It's hilarious.
Rationalphobic 8y ago
And mostly everyone there is white.
AnalLeak 8y ago
It can be racist and funny at the same time.
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Truth-Addict 8y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLz8DkNE840
AndrewTheRed 8y ago
Interpretation - "We're next"
I think subreddits such as coontown and fatpeoplehate are banned because they target a specific group of people that most redditors (at least the more vocal ones) either have empathy for the "victims" of the subreddit or think that the prejudice the subreddit promotes is racist. In TheRedPill's case, the "victims" are women, and I think the notorious reputation this subreddit has generates media attention, another reason subreddits are banned.
boscoist 8y ago
First they came for FPH, andi said nothing because i wasn't a member.... then they came for me and there was noone left to speak for me
tmoe44 8y ago
whatever happened to, if you don't like something don't pay attention to it?
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The irony is that the new CEO said that CT would be allowed to freely exist..but would just be separated from the main site...or put in a camp, if you will......
I wonder when we are going to get our yellow Snoo badges.
dr_warlock 8y ago
Like a Native American Reservation
trp_hamlet 8y ago
This was my takeaway, too. Spez obviously can't be relied on to keep his word. He doesn't follow on promises two weeks later, much less several years.
His presence is designed to lend credibility to the censorship process since he's a founder and can apparently do no wrong.
It's pretty clear the "Content Update" is going to be updated a couple dozen times before the year is out, with a brand new set of banned communities each round.
I bet we make it to November and no further.
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I was betting on a December coup. Damn.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
I've said it before but I'll repeat it here before people go off the deep end with speculation:
We have backup forums ready to go that the team has been working on tirelessly to make sure we were ready, complete with archives. There's no need to jump ship right now, so we're not, but rest assured we have a place for us if we need to.
Announcements will be on puerarchy.com
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Redpillc0re 8y ago
Why wait and not jump ship already? Some of us use reddit only to read TRP anyway.
WaynesCotting 8y ago
Is Puerarchy going to be the home of TRP? That site gives me the impression that it's run by just one person, whereas no one really owns TRP on Reddit. It also looks like a GoDaddy website squatting page. Why don't we just move to Voat?
It also bothers me that "puerarchy" is ridiculous and cumbersome as a word.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
Puerarchy is where we will announce our plans.
Here's a snapshot of the backup forums, which will have a better name (thanks to all y'alls bitching)
http://a.trp.red/preview
WaynesCotting 8y ago
Why are you deleting comments that suggest that Voat is a better alternative to your personal website for TRP content?
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
We don't want the community to fragment. We've planned backup boards which will help us prevent another bad-master scenario that we're having here. We actually do moderate the voat board as well, but mark my words, we will run into another scenario like this again if we don't steer our own ship.
http://a.trp.red/preview
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redpillschool Admin 8y ago
Main forum isn't live until we switch. But here's a sneak preview:
http://a.trp.red/preview
NineInchPitchfork 8y ago
Do we need to do anything to reserve a place on the mother ship (puerarchy)?
Capt_ShitNuts 8y ago
done and done. after the most recent change, I'm expecting a ban any day now. but I've been wrong before.
rp_valiant 8y ago
reserve your reddit username using the link in the sidebar.
NineInchPitchfork 8y ago
Arr....name reserved. Accept no imitation NineInchPitchfork and profit!
ToiletIcer 8y ago
How do you do it on your phone.
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If it happens... how quick will Puerarchy be to monetize?
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
We have plans for donations and tipping to help keep the servers afloat. But if you think I'm going to sell out, you must be new here.
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RPthrowaway123 8y ago
I love you, man
my_redpill_account 8y ago
I'll even turn off ad blocker for the site. Which I rarely do for any site.
iLLprincipLeS 8y ago
can't you just run a reddit type upvote, downvote application on a new site?
after all, for me reddit = rtheredpill ; makes no difference if it's redditcomrtheredpill or puerarchycom/p/theredpill
if i think about it, i'd probably sooner donate to support the hosting of a site than to buy worthless reddit gold.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
http://a.trp.red/preview
And we'll announce a way to donate to the new servers soon! Thanks for your support.
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redpillschool Admin 8y ago
Myself and many other manosphere bloggers would love to make a little whiskey cash off our efforts, and we're making a plan to allow "tipping" for manosphere blogs to do such a thing.
But as far as main functionality of theredpill forums and the future of said forums, access with remain free and the content on said forums will always remain unbiased and based on voting/content policy and will never include sponsorships. The forums themselves will exist because of generosity of the members.
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Donations will definitely cover it all assuming there's near total transparency in the costs.
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ioudas210 8y ago
You should take his word for it.
blacwidonsfw 8y ago
To run a site with 10k active users it shouldn't cost more than 600 a month MAX.
pehpe 8y ago
Going to publicly post this even though I sent you a PM.
Have we considered tapping into rp'ers like myself who work in web dev/ have server administration experience? Considering some of us also have dedi's and VPS's and know a fair bit amount about this stuff, I feel it'd be a useful tool.
Myself, I have a VPS and a dedicated, and my dedicated is sitting there, I haven't even SSH'ed into it yet.
Shit. Even a collaborative effort to code something that archived every single thread on this sub, which may or may not be possible, (I haven't looked into it) and making it available elsewhere would be fun.
Rhunta 8y ago
Full stack webdeveloper here.
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sirmadam 8y ago
Web dev checking in…also would easily pay $10 a month to help keep things going.
TradAlpha 8y ago
Transporter here. I can transport anything, anywhere, anytime, any distance for anyone. Armed or not armed. No questions asked. From a souped-up turbo MINI go-kart to a B737 NGX, I can move.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
I appreciate the offers, I'll give you a sneak peek of what we've got going so far:
http://a.trp.red/preview
One of my main concerns is making sure that our lifeline (the server) is under my control. As much as I've appreciated the offers for dedicated servers from our users, I can't rely on these offers as much as I can rely on having a definite contract to rely on. And worst case scenario, if donations don't cover it, I can pay out of pocket. My main priority is to protect theredpill forums, wherever they may be.
Now coding and the like, I may take you up on. We've got a lot already but there are some more features we're planning.
rafay_M 8y ago
Hats off to you, dude. When you open your coffers, I swear I'm donating to you. Actions like yours inspire loyalty, don't lose that.
One_friendship_plz 8y ago
I'm a beginner web developer but I'm good at writing tests.
eltiolukee 8y ago
Sysadmin here, count me in
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I sent a PM to the mods offering help before and didn't get an acknowledgement even, so I think that's not a priority yet since reddit hasn't shut us down. I just think it'd be a good idea to have a couple people ready to go in case help is needed to keep the infrastructure costs down by setting up a CDN, using cache optimization and such, things that guys like you and me could help with.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
Sorry we didn't get back to you, the modmail is a serious joke as far as catching everything that goes through there.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3fxgiv/coontown_banned_in_new_ambiguous_reddit_policy/cttife2
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I understand, I'm sure it's a lot of work to go through mod queue and clean all the shit up. I should have sent the message a few times to have a better chance to catch the team's attention. I'm available a few hours a month to help out if needed, just let me know when the time comes.
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Administrator / software guy here as well. FWIW
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Xeusi 8y ago
Business side of that here business here.
internet_terrorist 8y ago
crude oil production here, you can count on me.
redadactyl 8y ago
Chemist reporting In, I'll bring the drugs.
Brave_Horatius 8y ago
Tailor here. I can ... Make some uniforms?
Schrodingersdawg 8y ago
As long as you get Hugo Boss to help design them off of a certain historical group that we always get compared to!
Brave_Horatius 8y ago
That is exactly what I was thinking. Brown is rather flattering and Fall is around the corner after all.
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commentatorX 8y ago
'You must construct additional pylons.'
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blacwidonsfw 8y ago
If you don't know whether it's possible or not to archive all a subreddit posts then you must not be a very good dev. Also you're one shitty 512 mb vps box isn't going to be able to handle 100k users. Sorry just keeping it real.
pehpe 8y ago
I dunno if it's possible because how would you ever keep track of a comment that is added to a thread that was already achrived? Or did you not account for something like that? It'd have to be run more than once to achieve a backup that was =. Of course it's possible the question of how well its done is different.
Also my "shitty vps box" isn't 512mb. But it's not like there are 100,000 concurrent users connecting anyway... and it's not like I have a dedicated server.
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blacwidonsfw 8y ago
Yes but to handle 10000 concurrent users efficiently you should pass a load test for 100,000. I'm not sure what your mumbo jumbo about saving previous posts is about. You just scrape every post through the api and related comments? Obviously if new comments are generated they won't be in the previous scrape but you can run it again and rescrape if you detect a larger comment count the next time. Its really not that complicated...
pehpe 8y ago
How can you make a blanket statement that 100,000 load test = 10,000 concurrent users? How can you make that assumption without knowing what software is running, and what kind of read/write is being preformed?
Running Magento on a VPS where one went and installed apache/mysql and php is much different than running it on a VPS with a properly configured cache, mysql configuration, php configuration, web server configuration, and CDN. Is the database on the same VPS or a different VPS?
In my Magento example, are we using nginx + php-fpm or are we using apache?
You get the point.
My other point is that archiving every post may not be possible. To be fair I know nothing about reddit's API, but, what is the cost benefit of running the same API call for content that has already been archived just to get a new post? How frequent would the API run? (And again, without knowing reddit's api) how would you detect content from the time it was last ran to the time it was supposed to run again? (I'm not saying that this is a hard thing or impossible but some thought would have to go into it beyond "herp-derp lets just connect to the API) I would think there is a date field when making the request, but, not knowing anything about the API (I didn't even know there was an API) these are all questions that have to be answered.
What do I know? I'm underpaid and could give a fuck less.
blacwidonsfw 8y ago
Maybe the fact that you don't even know reddit has an api and worrying about some obscure date issue which I can't really follow, you should leave this to someone with experience and not some junior underpaid software developer who doesn't even know reddit has an api.
pehpe 8y ago
Great argument you present! Imdb.com has an api, and quite frankly who would give a shit or know that unless you were working on a project that involved IMDB?
You're a potato
NakedAndBehindYou 8y ago
Have you looked into replacing TRP on voat.co?
bsutansalt 8y ago
We did and decided against it.
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redpillschool Admin 8y ago
Exactly. We're not about to trade one master for another.
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redpillschool Admin 8y ago
You know how we're in a world of shit because we don't control the platform? Well, changing one master for another is a bad idea.
If we have to move, we will do it once. And only once.
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Triglycerine 8y ago
Voat IMMEDIATELY caved after the whole Pao shenanigans led to SRS and similar reporting the fuck out of them.
They'll take down any verse if you report it. /u/bsutansalt and the others were right in deciding against setting up shop there.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
Our backup forums will be more reliable as well.
Triglycerine 8y ago
Shots Fired. By the way, could you maybe go with a bit of a darker theme? At the moment the site feels a little sterile.
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Modified_Hackware 8y ago
That question has been answered so many times it's not even funny.
Shut the fuck up and read some eh?
Xeusi 8y ago
To be fair a name should be marketable. I'd be looking at the facts namely website statistics to see if the reddit sub theredpill got you more views or whatnot. TRP can be abbreviated and texted better at the very least.
If you got the traffic somebody will pay to have their product placed there.
Modified_Hackware 8y ago
TRP shouldn't be marketed. So no. TRP can stay here or get renamed "TEAM ALPHA MALE" for all I care, I'll go off to somewhere with a hard-to-find name. Happens with every sub this one is no different but it's a vastly different landscape here to when it was sub 10k users.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
Forums.red
Announcement here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3g06xa/a_note_on_the_backup_forums/
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
The sponsors section isn't blank. It's got an amazon advertisement.
Believe it or not, hosting isn't free.
But you'd know that if you've actually been here more than a few minutes rather than just stopping in to cause trouble. It doesn't take long to search what puerarchy means.
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redpillschool Admin 8y ago
So then you just don't pick up on things?
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Xemnas81 8y ago
Please PM me should we have a Code Red.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
I probably can't remember to do that, but if our sub goes dark, look for news on puerarchy.com
Xemnas81 8y ago
yeah no worries I realised it was a retarded thing to ask when I saw the button on the side. Just deciding which personal email address is safe to associate TRP with
prodigy2throw 8y ago
Can someone explain the name puerarchy?
Mangoxguava 8y ago
Ruled by boys. Puer=boys Archy=rule/government control
iambecomedownvote 8y ago
And every third comment on the announcement thread is "why isn't SRS banned, then?"
The admins continue to not ban it.
drallcom3 8y ago
I work in online monetization. The active users in SRS must be monetizing a lot better than the users of subreddits like coontown or fatpeoplehate (SRS users also probably overlap a lot with the other SJW/feminist subreddits). Reddit is a business after all and they can make or break rules on their own website however they please, don't forget that. All that is really easy to see in the data and any competent manager has to take that decision.
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Xemnas81 8y ago
Because feminism sells and the beta admins sold their balls to lick women's shoes and get loaded for it
VirgoRooster 8y ago
Honestly, you can kinda tell even spez and Kn0thing don't really buy into the SJW bullshit, at least not as much as Pao did. The were, at least, reticent to ban many subs before the children started spamming their funding's inbox.
I mean, they're going to do what's best for business. Most people on reddit are anti-RP (or at least, anti-RP ideals) and the next largest faction doesn't give a fuck, so RP supporters aren't exactly given special consideration here...
I almost can't even blame them for wanting to monetize their baby. Everybody's gotta eat. I just think it's silly that subs like this need to get banned because some people can't handle contrasting viewpoints.
I___________________ 8y ago
I don't know, spez sounds like a total cuck who believes he is fighting a righteous battle against people who commit wrongthink.
HoundDogs 8y ago
Didn't Pao just get added as a mod of some SJW subreddit?
Xemnas81 8y ago
Yep.
SRS remains untouched though and from.what I hear they gleefully dosh out thermonuclear dread game to non compliants (doxxing). I mean fuck 5.days ago they sent rape threats out to a girl for considering false rape accusations to be damaging, and not too long ago targeted a man on SuicideWatch for being an MRA.
Who really has the moral high ground here then? Imo we do, just
VirgoRooster 8y ago
The SRS thing is the silliest bit to me. I mean, we can all see that that sub is getting away with murder when compared to the way some of the banned subs had policed themselves.
Weirdest of all is that that sub literally hates reddit. Why do they care so much about something they hate, and moreover why are the website's owners so hellbent on appeasing them? It doesn't make a lick of sense to me.
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prodigy2throw 8y ago
I still think the chances of them banning TRP anytime soon is very low. Especially considering that other subs don't discuss TRP too much and we generally keep to ourselves.
Still smart to have a back up though and I applaud the mods for doing so.
Statecensor 8y ago
Looks like stormfront and niggermania just got a huge boost in new users.
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Rougepellet 8y ago
Sorry to annoy other redditors? That sounds like the blue pill sub
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Rice_Fields 8y ago
CoonTown was pretty shitty, but at least it served as a containment board, kinda. And it's also a pretty bad sign concering trp
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Deezlutz 8y ago
I didn't realize trp supported racism.
veyron3003 8y ago
Sexual strategy is sexist and racist.
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
You're about as sharp as a beach ball.
Deezlutz 8y ago
How so? Read some of the comments on here.
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
TRP supports the ideology of TRP. If some people that post here sympathize with another controversial subreddit being banned, it doesn't necessarily mean they agree with said subreddit's ideology. Your comment is a non sequitur.
king_of_red_alphas 8y ago
Bullshit dude. Read the posts here. Plenty of outright defense of the CONTENT on CT. Don't be obtuse.
zeny_two 8y ago
Would it be fair to say that you didn't frequent coontown? I didn't either, and that's why I acknowledge that I have no knowledge of the content that appeared there. The same is probably true for you. You don't know what was said, but you're making the (probably) false assumption that it was all inflammatory racism.
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WingTune0 8y ago
Holy shit. As a woman it is terrifying to hear people defending TRP here.
See how your argument is structured? It follows the "I don't like it even though it's cold hard scientific facts that TRP/coontown is spreading, so it must be banned!"
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VirgoRooster 8y ago
Concerning RP, I agree with you in theory but not in practice. There's a lot of broscience BS spread on RP as well.
And of course, "hai guyz lets invade New Zealand" doesn't help our image either. lol
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
I'm sure there's plenty of "as a woman" 's that will be ready to say the same thing if TRP goes down. This post isn't about the validity of another subreddit's ideology. The posts "defending coontown" are saying it was cleaning up its act and was within the guidelines (up until they moved the goalposts again).
What is with the non sequiturs today here.
king_of_red_alphas 8y ago
Actually I've seen plenty of posts on this thread presenting "CoonTown" as a place for reasonable and valuable discourse. More than a few people proudly proclaiming that they are posters.
The few times I've peeked in there, it was anything but that. Just about every headline read along the lines of "Chimps go nuts at the mall" and "Apes go apeshit over watermelon" Etc etc etc.
Now, the larger point of wanting reddit to support the most odious and potentially "offensive" speech in order to keep the free flow of ideas going is valid. IMO, defending the actual purpose of CoonTown is idiotic and akin to defending the Westborough Church.
I defend the Westborough's Church's right to exist but I also know that are useless lunatic trolls.
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
I've seen the same stuff you're talking about, but there's been some straight-up objective posts about crime and the bias of media in reporting. There's been plenty of TRP posts in the anger phase, and I'm sure there's plenty of women that only saw those, and samely engage in the fallacy of composition.
Lots of what you said is accurate, its just not absolute or close to it, and its the principle above all else that is what actually matters, and not what % was good/bad or what any particular person felt "offended" about that day, but that a line was drawn after the fact, which is what is rustlin' jimmies.
king_of_red_alphas 8y ago
Fair points. I am more of an "absolutist" when it comes to expression. In fact the more I wince at what somebody is saying, the more suspicious I become of myself and my tendencies to want to "shut it down". Because of that, I'd say CoonTown should stay.
Objectively, I can't really say it serves much more of a purpose than a circle jerk of hate. But I can also understand how that exact same argument can and is made against TRP.
I was just somewhat surprised that people on TRP were actually trying to defend CoonTown itself and not just its right to exist.
Turtles4lyfee 8y ago
Right? I'm sitting in disbelief just reading these comments. I was under the impression that racism was frowned upon here?..
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
Sympathizing with another controversial subreddit being banned doesn't necessarily mean that everyone here agrees with the entire ideology of said subreddit. Logic 101.
DreadLockedHaitian 8y ago
You may say that but there is a lot of evidence to the contrary on this very thread.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
What is this bullshit, guilty by association?
DreadLockedHaitian 8y ago
Nope, I'm all about TRP and I'm not defending and don't sympathize with Coon Town at all. I'm just pointing out that we most definitely have some virulent racist who support racism on the Red Pill, apparently.
NsaOperative001 8y ago
I feel you, bro. I appreciate trp and what its contributed to making myself better but holy hell are some of these guys racist. Whenever I see race mentioned here I know they are going to bash the hell out of them. Not even just blacks, they do it to Latinos, asians, Indians(who I know are also Asian but still). If you're not white then prepare to be bashed and then have them say "stop tone policing me, bro!!" QQ
king_of_red_alphas 8y ago
Have to agree. For a place that's supposed to be about sexual strategy, I cringe when I see race and political ideology brought up. You just know the types that foam at the mouth wanting to turn any and every conversation into conformation of their pet cause.
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
I feel you, bro. I appreciate coontown and what its contributed to making myself better but holy hell are some of these guys sexist. I see sex mentioned here I know they are going to bash the hell out of women. Not even just women, they do it to wives, LTRs, plates (who I know are also pump and dump but still). If you're not male prepare to be bashed and then have them say "stop tone policing me bro!!" QQ
NsaOperative001 8y ago
Lol I guess that was your attempt at being clever ;)
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
If you don't accept this then you're not being very logically consistent and are using special pleading.
NsaOperative001 8y ago
Well your first mistake was in assuming that I agree with everything about trp. That makes your post a moot point. Faux intellectuals are the worst
zeny_two 8y ago
Sorry, what? Is that an insult on his intelligence or an evaluation that he doesn't count as a "real intellectual?" Either way, get your head out of your ass or prepare to be discounted here.
Just as a note, I can tell that you think intellectualism is somehow virtuous, but many people don't share that belief. Thomas Sowell, for example.
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
I agree. Nice straw man. My reply simply changed the nouns around so it is internally and logically consistent. It isn't hinged on whether I or not I make any external assumptions since I didn't add anything to the "equation."
Basic logic really.
NsaOperative001 8y ago
Oh buddy, you're trying so hard lol. Your comments are very imverysmart worthy.
Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
You must be new here.
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primatepicasso 8y ago
This is why 4chan owns reddit
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targus_4d3d3d3 8y ago
Coontown = racism. Why does redpill care if they're banned?
AreoWolf 8y ago
Because red pill is bigoted just the same. Just look at the comments here defending coontown.
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Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
Make a quick list of the top 3 subreddits that a new policy like this would target.
targus_4d3d3d3 8y ago
Greatapes
Srssucks
Theredpill...
Oh shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MazeMouse 8y ago
I don't have to agree with what they say but free speech dictates they have a right to say it.
targus_4d3d3d3 8y ago
Free speech is not speech without consequences. Coontown makes reddit look really bad. If I was in charge of reddit I would shut them down too. It's embarrassing.
MazeMouse 8y ago
Reddit had to make up a very vague rule to shut it down. And shut it down weeks after they said they wouldn't. Not to mention shutting down a subreddit which followed all of reddits's own rules while still allowing the bile that is SRS.
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Roshambo_USMC 8y ago
If it was worse it would have been banned first logically.
watersign 8y ago
as an avid poster on coontown, all i will say is that this is making me leave reddit. and many others are following
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TheEssexian 8y ago
There is a HUGE difference between coontown and red pill.
Coontown was disgusting. Redpill talks about gender relations in a frank way. Is there a bias? Are there generalizations? Sure. But most of the posts I've read and the comments I've read, are guys discussing issues they've face, in a none hateful or antagonistic way, and processing the experiences to learn from them. It seems quite reasonable.
And most of the guys on here accept the differences between men and women as part of the nature of each and don't rely on finger pointing and instead take ownership for the failings in relationships that they are responsible for.
I don't agree with everything here. I follow this subreddit more out of curiosity, but I do find some interesting insights.
I visited coontown once when a lot of people were raising concerns about it, and i was disgusted by it. The people on that subreddit were going into r/racism to stir the pot and antagonize people. I don't see that with people from this subreddit often if at all.
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We are next. This website is slowly becoming a fascist dictatorship.
caocao16 8y ago
'fascist dictatorship' lolol
AreoWolf 8y ago
DAE fascism = social justice??