And yet another reason why I've given up completely. No point in it whatsoever.

Have fun in Herpestown ladies and gents! I hear you can never move out of there!

Basically, women want to pick and choose but can't stand the thought of men doing the same.

I'm 6'2, large boned and I have a high body density (Nobody ever guesses my weight right, and it's really hard to break my bones). At 250, I would consider myself to be on the high end of chubby. 215 - 225 is my fighting weight depending on how much muscle I want to carry.

For this girl, at 5'5, with a low body density and small frame, to say she's chubby at 250 is just insanity. That goes beyond self-delusion into the realm of serious public health concern. I'd love to see what her fasted and post-prandial blood sugar numbers are, and her A1c. Having your foot fucking amputated because of diabetes is no joke.

. . .chubby . . .

250 pounds

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That made my fucking day.

Seriously, what level of morbid obesity do women have to reach before they look at themselves in the mirror and see landwhales staring back at them? Like, fucking seriously, do they need to be immobile or some shit before they say, "yep, I'm a fatty."

They only notice the presence of the top 20% (or even narrower) males in any given location

And, guys, this is not just a number thrown out there: women rate 80% of guys as worse looking than average, while the curve for men is incredibly symmetric.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Cock Carousel:

I never really used to have too much of an issue... If I wanted to get laid, I would find someone probably around 95% of the time. I tended to keep a couple of FWB type things going too that were very infrequent, but meant I could always give them a call if there were no new partners available. Was single for 2 years, longest dry spell was about 2 weeks.

It's harder to get them to fuck you, first of all. Because, obviously, they're a much smaller group than "every dude I don't want to fuck," and they often have - because they're hot - higher standards. If I wanna bang 20% of the dudes I see, and 10% of all dudes want to bang me, 2% of the people I'd bang would be open to it, and 8% of people I don't want to sleep with would be. Factoring in the idea that hot people have higher standards, now only 5% of the hot guys would hit it, and 20% of the rest. This means that out of a hundred dudes, 17 people want to fuck me, but only one of them is someone I want to fuck.

(Also, later in the thread she admits she weighs 250 lbs. Further proving the theory that even a terribly unattractive woman can still get laid by at least 17/100 men at any given bar.)

The hilarious part of this above quote is that it's by... an AskWomen mod. She literally spelled out RedPill theory (women only want the very top fraction of males, the rest can go to hell) even while proclaiming herself to be a proud feminist who don't need no man.

Here's another reason why you don't sleep with fat, unsuccessful bitches. They are bitter and miserable and want you to be bitter and miserable too. Go find a hot bitch. They're likely successful, fun, have some intelligence and maybe even a steady paycheque. But they are positive people, not those loser women who are mods on some stupid sub.

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Then he should work on becoming more attractive and/or lowering his standards. Women also tend to put much much more effort into their physical appearance than men do, so there's that.

Is this broad even serious? The majority of women are fat, overweight Netflix queens. "Much much more effort?" Because she has to put on mascara?

Bitch, try putting in the effort to maintain 10% bodyfat, a V-tapered torso, a career, investment portfolio, reading so as to be able to charm and seem "interesting" to your Jupiter-sized ass, and then come back and tell me doing your hair and shaving your legs is so much much more effort.

Is there anything more intoxicating than hamster tears?

Being emotionally unavailable and flirting, with welcome arms from the women, with other women in front of a woman in particular, will get that one much hotter than before for ya.

Women, really, are irrational and stupid. If they wanted a quality man they have to earn it and are lazy so they don't want to do it.

The red pill works because women wont sleep with everyone? They are only saying that they arent attracted to everyone. They done even say what types of dudes they're attracted to. Nobody actually believes in alphas and betas other than insecure "betas" wanting to be "alphas". Sure, self improvement is a great thing and I admire anyone who tries to better themselves. But the fact that yall care about alphas and betas clearly points to the fact that yall are "natural born betas" TRYING to be someone they think is an "alpha". Why does your existence revolve around whether or not women want to sleep with you? The red pill is about self improvement, right? Well anyway, I'll continue to educate myself on these ideas, but I thought this would be more than a dick showing contest..

I gotta admit that in HS, I didn't consider hamplanet girls to be actual girls. That's not what I meant by girls. (and my upper limit was way way below 250)

For guys it's all about the girl's physical attractiveness.

For girls it's about smell, technique, dominance -- not so much looks, though looks are great too.

When I first visited TRP, I was incredibly skeptical. It was full of obviously untrue shit like "betas make women want to puke". I read the sidebar anyway, and figured "eh, they're just exaggerating to make a point".

Since then, every day is another reminder that no, this is literally true.

If you promise them anonymity (or even if you don't) and get them spun up about "unattractive guys", women will tell you that the thought is vomit-inducing. 250 pound women will say they're only attracted to "hot guys", then cry about societal standards when those guys don't like them back. Women redefine "get laid" as "get the man I want most" to justify their lack of fulfillment.

For all the talk about how misogynistic TRP is, I don't hear a lot of people reacting to "80% of men are subhuman and make me want to vomit".

While I can understand the frustration at their backwards ass logic, I do kind of get were they are coming from. What it boils down to is them saying they don't get any enjoyment from sex with average to unattractive men, so when men say that its easy for them to have enjoyable, casual sex, we're incorrect because they only get enjoyment from the top percent of men.

Which makes a lot of sense, since men can father practically endless children we have evolved to not be particularly picky, but since women have a very small duration of their lives that they can mother children and for most of history were reliant on men to provide for them, they better choose carefully.

While it does mirror what TRP says, its also in many ways not at all surprising.

There is a reason for this cognitive disconnect - it shouldn't surprise any of us. As Stardusk and Rollo have pointed out before, the "war bride" psychology, combined with female hypergamy, is an evolutionary construct that helped our species survive and expand. Critically though, these processes are not conscious, otherwise they would not be as effective. They cannot be, by necessity, because they are psychological defense mechanisms. In order to function properly, women cannot be fully aware of them ... otherwise it would cause extreme cognitive dissonance. Hence, the hampstering.

Stardusk's Take

Rollo's "War Brides" Post

Women are simply operating on the same biological imperative script (find and mate with that top 10-20% alpha) that they have for thousands of years. It's debatable if there is any conscious malice there. Likewise, any anger from men is misplaced. We are angry at being misled about the true nature of things.

But sex and reproduction drives the world, and thinking humans are somehow "enlightened" animals that supersede that is, quite frankly, fucking ridiculous. Evolution has shaped every aspect of us, including our brains and the psychology that goes along with it.

There is a purpose to the things we do, even if we are not cognizant of it. Most of it revolves around sexual reproduction and maximizing our genetic legacy, even if it doesn't seem so at first glance. A few thousand years of cultural evolution doesn't change that - it merely hides it behind various costumes and rituals. Once you understand that, it all makes sense.

Don't listen to what women say. Watch what they do.

250 lbs and making comments like that? Jheez was it Christ that said something about greenhouses and stones?

Now, go lift and get in that top 1% of males so these women will start sucking your dick.

But those women on askwomen seem to be rather fat. This is beneath my minimum standards. Ya know how it is... me and Chad, we got options yo!

this is a fundamental difference between men and women, and it's best to understand it and accept it than to think that women are stupid for being what they are. they don't have any choice in the following realities of being female:

It's easy for women to have sex, but it's not as easy for them to find good, enjoyable, safe sex. on average, it's much more difficult for women to attain an orgasm than for men, and women have an easier time orgasming with a trusted well-known partner than with a stranger. it generally takes a lot more skill to make a woman come than it does for a man, and a lot of guys do not have those skills due to a lack of experience or care. women also face a lot more potential dangers and consequences from sex than men because they can be drugged, raped, get pregnant, and it's also easier for women to contract STDs because men fire bodily fluids at them or into them (even with condoms, because stats show that they leak and break a lot more than you'd think).

men have a lot more to gain and fewer risks from random sex. we have a much easier time orgasming in the average sexual encounter than women; we generally aren't afraid that a woman will drug and/or rape us (though roofying guys for robbery is becoming more common); we face a lesser risk of contracting STDs because girls don't shoot bodily fluids at us or inside us (barring squirters, of course).

these are the facts of life that won't change. have some freakin compassion, step outside of yourself, and recognize that men have it better in some ways. women know that casual sex with most of the men they've met will not be enjoyable for them, and instinct and culture constantly reminds them of the risks. It's your job as a man to understand all of this and work hard to become the sort of guy that women feel will be able to provide good, safe sex.

I'm not seeing this post linked to TBP yet. No way they can hamster this one away.

I do have a question about getting into the top 20% of males. I'm 5'6 and I'm wondering if all I have to do is lift.

I know I'll look good, but what else? Is that it?

When you have so much sex that sex isn't really sex.

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I read this the other day and was furious with the top comment alone. She literally says, oh its so hard to find any man to be attractive to me. But o but sure i can find anybody to just shove their dick in me but i dont count that. Like Wtf ?

EDIT: with this absurd ideology, i wonder if they count rape then? (Seriously)

Oh god I had to comment with this hilarious one:

[–]♂another30yovirgin [score hidden] 39 minutes ago What if it's so difficult that a man never gets laid?

[–]♀MissRepresentation [score hidden] 31 minutes ago Then he should work on becoming more attractive and/or lowering his standards. Women also tend to put much much more effort into their physical appearance than men do, so there's that.

I mean....they don't see the irony at all. Amazing.

More gems:

Also, I personally am only mentally able to hit on 2-3 guys a night and suffer the rejection (with me approaching) without feeling completely unattractive by the end of the night. So the more I’m rejected, the less I care to approach. Preservation first.

But it's okay for guys to just soldier on and keep getting shot down time and time again. Because, you know, they're guys, and it doesn't affect their self-esteem at all.

I'm just always amazed when a fat, ugly chick demands that she have a hot, built guy, because "that's her preference." And then they all hamster away why that's ok, but disliking fat women is "fat shaming" or whatever bullshit they decide to call it.

I have seen quite a few morbidly obese women who believe many men want to have sex with them. I'm not sure if it's a defense mechanism for their ego, i.e. a narcissistic response opposite to the original feeling or just a cultural female narcissism type of thing.

In reality, a few men of some worth will have sex with an obese woman when they're having a dry period and usually under the influence of alcohol, but won't commit.

Thank you for digging through all that garbage for these nuggets of gold.

Oh, I could find someone who'd use me like a fleshlight, stick their penis in me, but ... I wouldn't get off, I wouldn't even come close, and I don't see how that counts as "woo, I got sex" in any but the "I could possibly have gotten pregnant or contracted a STD".

Lol at this woman thinking that getting an STD isn't the same as getting sex. Last I checked that stood for 'sexually transmitted disease' implying that sex must have taken place. Oh the hamster: it's potential for humor know no bounds.

The #1 piece of evidence that women have completely fucked up logic is how every single one of them KNOWS that being in good shape is 90% of what is important for them to attract (and keep) a decent man, YET most of them are still fat and spend all their energy whining about it.

The pathway to their happiness couldn't be simpler or more straightforward. Yes, personality, success, and a cute face are important, but changing their physical shape is the most effective and most alterable of the elements. Also, those latter 3 elements do not make a woman happy unless she already has a man.

As always, women will give remarkably accurate information when asked in the right specific way. Not "what do women like?" or even "what do you like?" but "how did you hook up with your last guy?" That's when you will never hear "he was a nice guy who just was himself and also was a feminist" but get the truth about exactly what about him pinged her status meter.

Can't blame the general idea. I don't want to have sex with unattractive women either.

The only thing is that if you are a 250 pound woman, it seems unreasonable to only be attracted to 20% of guys. (unless she is counting all guys. If she's counting 18 year olds and 80 year olds, and most of the guys are being disqualified for age differences then fair enough)

Mad hamstering/femsplaining invasion in the Askmen version of the thread lol. But most of the regulars and guys know how reality works atleast.

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250 pounds? Holy shit she's fat.

What is the website that is The Red Pill back-up for when this sub gets banned by the reddit social justice warriors?

It's harder to get them to fuck you, first of all. Because, obviously, they're a much smaller group than "every dude I don't want to fuck," and they often have - because they're hot - higher standards. If I wanna bang 20% of the dudes I see, and 10% of all dudes want to bang me, 2% of the people I'd bang would be open to it, and 8% of people I don't want to sleep with would be. Factoring in the idea that hot people have higher standards, now only 5% of the hot guys would hit it, and 20% of the rest. This means that out of a hundred dudes, 17 people want to fuck me, but only one of them is someone I want to fuck.

The hilarious part of this above quote is that it's by... an AskWomen mod. She literally spelled out RedPill theory (women only want the very top fraction of males, the rest can go to hell) even while proclaiming herself to be a proud feminist who don't need no man.

She even happened to use the 20% figure in her example!

Now, go lift and get in that top 1% of males so these women will start sucking your dick.

Well, aim for the 20% most attractive, not the 1% that is willing to have sex with her

It's not surprising that even the landwhales at AskFeminists are able to espouse red pill theory. It's ingrained into them; they cannot choose it. I highly recommend The Red Queen by Matt Ridley if anyone wants to learn more about sex and evolution and the significant link between the two.

"Now, go lift and get in that top 1% of males so these women will start sucking your dick."

I sure hope that is sarcasm!

A man should never improve himself for the purpose of gaining a woman's approval or acceptance.