Three askwomen threads on why they didn't like prostitution.
http://www.redditlog.com/snapshots/389077
http://www.redditlog.com/snapshots/389069
http://www.redditlog.com/snapshots/389065
Reasons they gave.
- Prostitution still has people that are victims of sex trafficking. Some women are coerced into it.
What a noble reason to say no does this also mean that women altogether hate the diamond industry because of the violence and trafficking associated with it? How would these self righteous cunts react if their boyfriends told em he didn't believe in diamonds since they symbolize violence.
- Have different views on sex /Sex is a service
They find women that engage in prostitution/cam whoring/gone wild baiting/stripping all acceptable. In fact when it comes to sexual history normally they say as long as he is clean.
- Guy is having sex with a woman who doesn't want to have sex.
Do you think your mail man wants to deliver you mail? Do you think nurses want to wipe your ass when you are a senior citizen? And if this is the case than why would you be okay with sex workers in general?
What the hamsters won't admit
Men that visit prostitutes are low value: If some millionaire was to say he slept with prostitutes they wouldn't bat an eye. But in the context of someone on reddit asking probably going to be some nerdy dude who paid to lose his virginity.
Loss of Social Power - women normally would despise whores however since we live in the age of feminism, their anger is now projected towards the men that use prostitutes. Women know men would put up with a lot less shit if they could get laid easily and regularly. But they can't appear to be "sex negative" so they support the women that do it.
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rife_omeqa 11y ago
Any woman who has nothing to offer other than sex is threatened by the availability of sex elsewhere.
Hence slut-shaming and stigmatization of prostitution.
[deleted] 11y ago
I enjoy partying at brothels with my buddies. It's a hell of a lot of fun.
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aaron_the_just 11y ago
Western prostitutes/escorts are probably the safest fucks there are. Also, condoms?
veyron1001 11y ago
You're more likely getting an STD from a girl you picked up than a brothel worker. Brother workers understand SMV. She would have to sell herself cheap or she'll be fired from the brothel.
SmellsLikeHerpesToMe 11y ago
sniff sniff
yea_tht_dnt_go_there 11y ago
It only smellz.
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kingofpoplives 11y ago
80% of people who have herpes, don't know they have herpes. 20% of all women have herpes. If you have fucked a decent number of women, you have fucked a woman with herpes. But really, it's not the end of the world...
portn0y 11y ago
Don’t joke about herpzeez, it is literally the worst thing that has ever happened to over 80 percent of the adult population. Never catching an extremely common and most often harmless virus is far more important than living a little!
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portn0y 11y ago
Who’s talking about rawdogging a hooker?
CalamariRacing 11y ago
I'm just joking about guys who use irrantional fear of STDs to hamsterize their involuntary celebacy.
portn0y 11y ago
I know, and I agree with you. It’s also very popular with girls who feel they need some "neutral" reason why they are not interested in sex outside of relationships.
aaron_the_just 11y ago
Actually, women have a hell of a lot more to lose than men do from STDs; they're more likely to get infected and more likely to get infertile.
Not to mention that riding multiple cocks outside of relationships destroys the feminine psyche, turns her into an alpha widow, and renders her unable to ever have a happy relationship.
So, yeah, not wanting to get STDs is a pretty damn decent reason for a girl to not want sex outside of a relationship.
Now, if she's just using it to not have sex with me (I'm STD-free and can prove it) and she's ridden plenty of other cocks? Then fuck her.
GaiusScaevolus 11y ago
Prostitutes, Strippers, and Pornstars are all loathed by women for the same reason; they lower the cost of sexual gratification, meaning an individual woman is 'devalued' in the sexual market, doubly so if she's a 6 or less.
When a man can, in a matter of seconds, watch multiple 8-9s of any and every type perform any and every sexual act imaginable, the overweight 6 with the women's studies degree cannot command half as much in the sexual marketplace. When a man can purchase an evening with an 8 for $250, why would he spend 10-20X that amount to put a ring on the finger of an aging 7?
lesbianDREAMS 11y ago
From a woman in response to a guy with a history of seeing prostitutes:
Of course women hate dread game. A woman could just as easily go out and do the same thing without paying for it. Prostitution means that a man can do this too which is unacceptable to a woman. Shaming men who use prostitutes gives women their power back.
She's hit her wall and hamsters her cock riding days as a silly thing of the past. Meanwhile the guy's similar past is downright shameful (lol).
AKA "I'm a massive hypocrite!!!!"
justRPthings 11y ago
What happened to someones sexual past being non of the other persons business? Oh yes, we're talking about a MANS sexual history. dat hypocrisy...
Motherbrainzebes 11y ago
The real reason these women hate men who've used prostitutes, is because prostitution is "cheating the system." Look at one of the comments left behind in the first log.
"I don't want to have to worry that if we get into a big fight you'll go see a prostitute."
Think about that for a second, what does seeing a prostitute have to do with having a big argument? What is the link there? When you think of sex as a tool used by women to effect behavior compliance, this makes perfect sense. This woman wants to be able to use sex as an effective weapon to win arguments, and a man who is willing to pay for sex shows that he is willing to undermine her efforts to control him via sex.
Prostitution undermines the ability of all women to control men by using sex. Think of it like a union. When one woman breaks formation, it lessens their collective ability to bargain. Makes a lot of sense.
Zackcid 11y ago
Women are on a powertrip and they don't even consciously realize it. She was very close to self-awareness when she stuck out from the herd for a sec and admitted that "I don't want to have to worry that if we get into a big fight you'll go see a prostitute."
It's still very vague and implicit, but you'll never find a woman explicitly saying what you wrote, because she'll shed light on the fact that she's a manipulator -- that one thing women claim to hate most about men.
There are a few other reasons, but one major one I see in between the lines is that seeing a prostitute is just like stamping in big red letters on the guy's forehead: "I'm a beta-boy, with such a low SMV that I had to resort to paying for it". All women ultimately want a man who shows clear signs of being desired by other women.
binrobinro 11y ago
Because these men are giving money to prostitutes. Money that these women are entitled to!
insickness 11y ago
I think it was Charlie Sheen who said, "I don't pay prostitutes for sex, I pay them to leave."
[deleted] 11y ago
I always heard it as 'You don't pay them to cum, you pay them to go'.
RojoEscarlata 11y ago
If I bought a prostitute I would not care if she comes or not really.
RedBigMan 11y ago
I think the joke in the last one was prostitutes are good for fucking but you don't want to have a hooker in your life. Hence you pay them to gtfo after you get off.
rporion 11y ago
No, the idea is that any man can get a woman if he is willing to put up with her shit.
You pay her so you dont have to put up with any shit.
RojoEscarlata 11y ago
Lost in translation I guess.
Thanks for clarify that.
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Nah, low value men wouldn't be able to afford a prostitute. However, they are a godsend to the men in the middle working class like myself who aren't george cloony(GC), and just want a release without all the bullshit, and wasted time, which is what they fear as others have pointed out about losing power, since this is the traditional "beta" class for them to fall back on after the carousel.
They know they don't have a long-term chance with a GC, so they wouldn't care if he fucks around with whores, but "betas" that do is a big no-no.
toplel2013 11y ago
"They know they don't have a long-term chance with a GC, so they wouldn't care if he fucks around with whores, but "betas" that do is a big no-no"
THAT GUY
throwawaymatthew 11y ago
'if their boyfriends told em he didn't believe in diamonds since they symbolize violence' Defo using this line in later life
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women hate guys having CHEAP sex. /thread
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VelociReactor 11y ago
Not from a legal standpoint it hasn't.
intriguingthing 11y ago
Putting a price on sex creates (at least a beginning of) a fair market for sex. Absent an oligopoly of prostitution (which is difficult to establish, because it's not legal in most places, and pretty much any attractive female can enter the market with no money down) prices will eventually depreciate to sex's fair market value. This doesn't sit well with females, who want to maintain a seller's market with opaque pricing.
loddfavne 11y ago
Transparency of information is a criteria for creating a free market. Once the free market is established, the price equilibrium is governed by supply and demand.
RobbenQC 11y ago
This is the big elephant in the room. Women have always hated prostitutes because they lower the price of sex, and make no mistake, all women are prostitutes in one form or another. You're always going to pay for pussy. Women do the slut shaming (but we get blamed for it). If prostitution were legalised and normalised, women lose their sexual power over men and we can't have that.
I think it's only a matter of time before this happens because we're purposefully putting prostitutes at risk by keeping them in the shadows at the moment. Eventually society will have to address this, and the only reasonable solution is legalisation. The longer battle will be cultural acceptance which women will never allow. They'll just shame men who use prostitutes when it is legal by attacking their masculinity.
Zackcid 11y ago
If prostitution is legalized, you can be damn well sure it's because of a concern of women's safety, and not because enough men demand for it to be legalized. It's two of society's biggest priorities facing off head to head: Women's Well-being vs. Keeping the sexual market status quo.
[deleted] 11y ago
Yes. This was a depressing realization when I finally faced it. Most heterosexual sex is transactional at some level, even if it's not stated (or even recognized) openly.
Zackcid 11y ago
Well it's pretty much obvious now that women would never in a million years ever associate or characterize themselves as being some type of whore, so there goes 50% of the population going mute on the topic. Only men can tell you this fact, because it would be mental self-destruction if a woman ever admitted it. Her entire life and ego up to that point would crumble.
RedBigMan 11y ago
Become shameless and women lose all power over you.
Zackcid 11y ago
Men care too much these days. But not for themselves or their own good, unfortunately.
[deleted] 11y ago
I'll point out, there's plenty of slut shaming going on on TRP. how often do you hear the phrase cock carousel? It's a negative phrase, not a positive one. It maybe is used differently than screaming and hollering about slut-whores or what have you, but it is definitely a term used to shame women having a specific sort of sex.
aaron_the_just 11y ago
The short answer is that both men and women slut-shame.
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Sturmgeist781 11y ago
And increases the prices. See Nye County, Nevada brothels.
aaron_the_just 11y ago
The stigma is the largest cost of using prostitution, and prostitution is ineffective for running dread game if it's keep secret.
A smart man will turn his plates into whores. A few hundred in cash a month dramatically changes a woman's behaviour and outlook. (And I have a personal fetish for leaving $20 on a pillow, but so far EVERY SINGLE WOMAN I'VE BEEN WITH gets turned on by that shit!)
fuckeh 11y ago
You leave cash on women's pillows after having sex with them? That's the funniest thing I've heard all day, although I've only been awake for a couple hours. Tell me more.
[deleted] 11y ago
Maybe men that hire prostitutes don't value women as much as men who don't.
FrostyGoingHisOwnWay 11y ago
Basic economics. Prostitution increases the supply of pussy to the market, and therefore lowers the unit value.
It's exactly the same reason that women slut shame other women, anything that gives men easy access to sex means the leverage they hold is diminished.
Everyone who has an upper hand in life develops mechanisms for protecting their advantage, sometimes subconsciously.
Thors_Cock 11y ago
There is no end to the things a woman want to complain about.
W-Z-R 11y ago
Truth
[deleted] 11y ago
They don't like men who hire prostitutes because it shows that they can't get any without prostitution.
CalamariRacing 11y ago
You need to clean up your grammar a bit and then dive headlong into this paper which views sex relations through an economic lense and examines men and women as buyers and sellers of sex.
http://www.carlsonschool.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf
There is a price on pussy, the reason women don't like prostitutes is because they are lowering the price of it for every other woman.
aaron_the_just 11y ago
The market clearing price runs between USD $20 and $150 depending on metro area and the quality of the woman.
That's what women are deathly afraid of. If I'm busy, I'll settle down into sex 2 times a week, so that's max $15,600 spent per year on sexual services, if I decided to patronise prostitutes, and could be as low as $2,080.
Girlfriends/wives want to get a lot more than $2k a year in exchange for a grudging fuck once a month.
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CalamariRacing 11y ago
The paper is well worth reading in its entirety, I'd say it's recomended reading for all RPers.
aaron_the_just 11y ago
Actually, the best consumers of escorts/prostitutes are high value men who just either want a different experience than the usual, or are stretched for time and just want to get in and out.
Low value men aren't spending $500/hr on an escort. And nobody will convince me Eliot Spitzer was a "low value man".
The assertion that johns are low value men is just more of the shaming of consumption of prostitution that women specialise in. Prostitutes really distort the sexual marketplace against a woman's favour, and they especially hate how high value men use their services.
Marbles73089 11y ago
I don't think OP meant value in terms of money
aaron_the_just 11y ago
Neither did I. Most guys I know who've used escorts have no trouble dating women, and are natural alphas -- hence why they have no issues paying for a fuck, if that's what they feel like doing.
The whole "only omegas use prostitutes" thing is a myth. I'm not convinced an omega male could even get a prostitute to fuck him.
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Any man can get sex for the right price.
aaron_the_just 11y ago
The price for me seems to be "time".
Gfresh405 11y ago
Does this really need an explanation? This is like common sense 101.
cyclonus007 11y ago
Doug Stanhope has a bit on this that's essential:
Movie: http://youtu.be/zK90wXMTUWg
introspeck 11y ago
Note the popularity of the movie "Pretty Woman". Apparently it's even OK that he marries the prostitute, as long as he's rich...
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[deleted] 11y ago
How much was it there? In singapour(state run) it's like 80 bucks to 300 depending on the girl. Then you had the cheap, nice massages too in thailand/dubai for 50 bucks. :)
CalamariRacing 11y ago
Was there last year in June, it was 50 euros for a decently hot window girl. In australia it's 150aud for the same service.
Sunakujira 11y ago
30-150US$ here, not legal per se, but the authority tends to look the other way.
but then again, why pay prostitues when you can get it for free from your plate.
Zackcid 11y ago
Because not all men are blessed with the right mindset to attract and then fuck girls. It's usually guys who've had sex in the past who are able to consistently have it happen again. Rich gettin' richer. For virgins, it's a long-term or continual dry-spell, until they develop a better, more attractive and assertive identity.
blazer88888 11y ago
Many people will tell you that a girl's high partner count isn't a big deal and shouldn't bother you. Funny how when a guy says he pays for sex, it's a deal breaker and shame on him.
Tastysalad101 11y ago
If prostitution became legal everyone what price do you guys reckon the cost would go to?
aalewis____ 11y ago
It's actually legal in some places but no idea of the prices
FortunateBum 11y ago
So she's never had casual sex? A one night stand? Has she ever made out with a stranger in a bar or club? Played spin the bottle? What does she call that?
Women are the biggest hypocrites.
iuliua 11y ago
Who cares really? You never gonna tell your gf and other girls don't matter.
redpilltree 11y ago
1 word, competition.
rebuildingMyself 11y ago
Also explains the "yellow fever" projection, anti-porn hamsters, anti-masturbation hamsters, etc.
pwrfull 11y ago
"Men that visit prostitutes are low value" Politicians, Businessmen, even Athletes have visited escorts, heck, even Religious leaders have also. Far better not to pay for sex, but some have asserted that it's far cheaper than child support, and alimony.
Zackcid 11y ago
TIL the best way to get rid of a clingy or LTR-seeking girl.
[deleted] 11y ago
so she should enjoy the sex and get paid for it to =))
GushyWetWet15 11y ago
i got banned (who would of though?)from askhamsters just because i hurt their feelz in that prostitution thread lol didn't even get a response just an outright ban. all i said was that "you guys shame and call dealbreaker if you found out a guy paid for a fuck but then also start shaming men if they don't want to commit to the used up cumdumpster and call him insecure for caring about a girl's past" and of course none of the hamsters could respond since i was 100% right so they do the next best thing of course.
Zackcid 11y ago
UGGGHHHH!! This is the most consistent behaviour in any woman-dominated online space or just female comment thread. They'll fucking ignore because they can't actually win the argument and they'll censor because your comment is a threat to the feelz of women all over the internet who may stumble upon this mean ol comment". If I made a world wide Internet survey, I'd bet $200 that most reports (to censor the comment) are done more often by women, than men proportionally. It's cowardly as fuck, but I'm still in that process of understanding that women aren't actually men with vaginas, so why bother getting frustrated. They're actually their own type of human, very different than men.
[deleted] 11y ago
You're supposed to accept a girl who's had 60 cocks inside her with no questions asked, and pretend like it doesn't define her in any way, but going to a strip club with the guys??! The outrage! How low can your moral standards be??
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GushyWetWet15 11y ago
hahah the more you know i guess
K3R3G3 11y ago
I got banned, too (from the 1st one.) I said their shaming of OP was unreasonable and told how Bryan Cranston lost his virginity to a prostitute at 16...then had sex with a different one each day for a month. Look how successful and desireable he turned out. The mods deleted it twice so I proceeded to paste the comment in reply to 20 different comments. Then* I got banned.
*Source, Howard Stern Interview.
GushyWetWet15 11y ago
haha exactly. it all boils down to how high your smv is, they perceive all men who go to prostitues to be basement dwelling losers who are socially awkward and desperate so need to pay to get sex (men with lose smv), if you're famous, rich, good looking, shredded, have good game and just a general high smv then none of those hamsters will probably give fuck
K3R3G3 11y ago
Yup. Crazy double-standards and assumptions. They tore that guy apart, too. I also added that it was ironic since the majority of them whore themselves out anyway, but it's in the roundabout way that is the acceptable standard in society seen as "courting" or playing into the whole princess/pussy-on-a-pedestal mindset. You could say I'm pretty new here. I've only commented maybe three times in this sub -- have been reading, learning, and upvoting for a couple months.
[deleted] 11y ago
Amazing how the majority of women commenting on these pages don't see sex a commodity and have no problem with the woman selling the sex but are disgusted with the men that buy the sex. This topic is like a hamster wheel built in heaven for these retards.
seancj133 11y ago
AskHamsters is as circlejerky as SRS. They ban you for retarded reasons so that nobody has their feelings hurt and the hamsters keep on spinning that wheel and reinforcing everyone's beliefs. If there's one thing that I don't want to see happen in TRP as it grows it's the subreddit turning into a place where no dissent happens.
redpillschool Admin 11y ago
There's a difference between disagreeing and calling us misogynists. We keep the first and ban the second.
If you show up and say "guys I don't think this is the best approach, try this.." you're golden. But if you show up and say "and this is why everything red pill is wrong.." you're getting the boot. It's just trolling at that level.
[deleted] 11y ago
This is how you get laws in northern European countries that make it illegal to buy sex but legal to sell it.
RedBigMan 11y ago
That is because women campaigned for changes to the laws that makes being a John illegal so women don't have to get thrown in jail. Really though I wonder how many women get thrown in jail for visiting Giggilo's, probably nil.
veyron1001 11y ago
so sex is free?
redpillta 11y ago
Sounds like an easy loop hole to get around.
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That may be true. I'm not sure exactly how strictly it's enforced.
But the point is the women have set up a "heads I win, tails you lose" legal environment. You have a transaction in which both parties benefit, but somehow it's only illegal for the man. It would be like changing the drug laws such that it's legal to deal but illegal to buy.
RedBigMan 11y ago
I really like that analogy on changing drug laws.
[deleted] 11y ago
Yeah, it really makes you wonder, if we view prostitution as an illegal industry and the sex being exchanged as the "product," then why do we go after the buyer in this case, but the seller in the case of any other item of the street. If I buy some weed or coke from my homeboy, I get pulled over, we cut a deal where I rat out the seller, because he is the "real bad guy". I may get 6 months probation or maybe even jailtime, but the seller will get 10 years if he's caught.
Now if I go buy some pussy, all of a sudden I'm the criminal. The seller in this case is blame free. They do not arrest her and try to get her to roll on her pimp, or arrest us both, they have a policy against arresting her. Either punish the supply or the demand - or both, but don't punish the supply in the case of X, the demand in the case of Y, both in the case of Z, etc etc.
It's just a stance manufactured by police departments to make themselves appear useful and 'caught up with the times' with regards to female issues.
[deleted] 11y ago
In the case of prostitution the seller is the victim.
[deleted] 11y ago
At least in Alabama both parties go to jail since it's not legal here.
[deleted] 11y ago
It's enforced very stricly.
Get this, if you as a Norwegian travel to another country and fuck a prostitute, and the Norwegian goverment somehow finds out about it, you'll still get prosecuted when you get back home! How they get around this, I don't know.
chris9149 11y ago
But the reality is it isn't really enforced. Nobody checks up on you to make sure you aren't paying for sex. There is no testing or questioning about it when you leave or return. They have no way to know this and they are fine with it. They just think the law will help someone gain popularity by saying they 'saved some poor sex workers' by passing the bullshit law.
portn0y 11y ago
I live in one of those countries, and they enforce it as well as they can. They can’t afford to spend too many resources on enforcing bullshit symbol politics, but most major PDs have dedicated personnel looking to catch men buying sex. If caught, you get a $4000 fine and a criminal record.
There is one major website for "high class" hookers - that is anyone who is not a Nigerian streetwalker - and the police monitor it in order to set up watch outside apartments that some of the girls advertising are operating out from, and then uses cell phone surveilance, etc. to bust guys approaching the premises.
They’re only able to bust a tiny fraction of the guys doing this, but the steep penalty and the stigma around getting that on your record is intended to make men not want to take the risk.
Oh, and get this - it is a crime for Norwegian citizens to buy sex anywhere in the world. If you’re in Australia, and you’re a Norwegian citizen, you are still forbidden from visiting a brothel. This is unenforceable bullshit, of course, but it shows the level of delusion that goes into this.
suscitare 11y ago
That's kind of offensive as an Australian, the Norwegians are basically saying well our morality and legal system is superior to that of Australia's so we are going to override the laws in Australia and impose our own laws there. So if I travel to Norway is it OK if commit illegal acts there as long as they are considered legal in Australia? I strongly doubt the Norwegian police would be cool with that.
Anyway I think most "justice" systems are more about population behaviour control and enforcement of social hierarchy than about "justice" or "morality".
[deleted] 11y ago
You can't buy sex in a country where it's legal? That's wrong on so many levels.
portn0y 11y ago
You can, of course, because the law is just bullshit posturing, and completely and utterly unenforceable. You haven’t committed a crime in that country, and Norway has no jurisdiction or authority there, so unless it just really eats away at your conscience and you turn yourself in when you get back, you can do what you want.
[deleted] 11y ago
Prostitution is only one illegal activity from a list of things that are illegal to norweigans no matter the laws of the country he/she is in, as decided by the norwegian criminal law, which contains a paragraph with a list of other chapters and paragraphs, which you could be, in theory, punished for no matter where you are. Strangely enough this does not encompass drugs. So in criminal law, apparently prostitution > drugs.
[deleted] 11y ago
My theory is the opposite of yours.
It's not so much that the value of the MAN decreases, but the value of all women RELATIVE to that man decreases.
If a man can pay to have sex with women, the value of sex is clearly defined: $X for Y services.
Men who do not use prostitutes cannot attribute a concrete value to sex, and thus, sex is seen as a "gift" which women are often bestowing upon a supplicant.
Women don't like prostitutes because it makes the invaluable "gift" have a set value.
Mitchell78 11y ago
All about power, every form of competition (porn, whores) devalues the power of pussy so thats why they don't like it.
[deleted] 11y ago
It goes a bit further than that - women hate the idea of prostitution because it maintains a perpetual "dread game". This is a nightmare for a lazy entitled hamster - how can she relax, gain weight, nag, dry her pussy up, and bitch all day when her husband knows that at any point in time he could sneak away, pay 100$, and have sex with an attractive girl who is paid not to tell / cause drama? In order to keep her man faithful with prostitutes aplenty, a woman has to keep giving her best. She has to work - it may not be a job, but she has to approach keeping a good home, raising kids, caring for her man, and fucking him with the same vigor that a driven man approaches her career.
Lazy bitches don't want that. In truth, in a fully unrestricted society, the price of pussy would be low as fuck. If women could sell themselves like they were selling lemonade, the price of pussy would be cheap as fuck, so cheap entire industries would grind to a halt.
Who the fuck would buy women jewelry when 5% of my yearly salary will give me an assortment of women on a regular basis? I'd date normal women too, but I sure as fuck wouldn't spend a dollar on them. Spend 60k on a sports car to impress ladies? Nope - now only people who truly wanted to benz for the benz itself and not for the ladies would buy it. As David Chapelle said, if a guy could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't get a house. Guys would self-eject from the rat race that keeps our economy going.
Society as a whole does not want men to be able to buy pussy. They want men to be motivated by pussy, motivated to get the pussy through herculean, self-sacrificing efforts. If men can afford pussy based on their $, we'd have men focusing more on increasing their wealth (access to pussy) and wasting less on spending on the things men buy to get women, aka 75% of our entire economy.
So on the individual level and societal level, it's for everyone's best interest that prostitution is illegal. On the individual level, the dread game it would cause most middle-aged women would be traumatic. On a societal level, since society in this context means "in the best interests of upper middle class women", prostitution is equality distasteful - it threatens the gravy train they have carefully cultivated over the past 30-40 years.
[deleted] 11y ago
It always seems to come back to money.
actuallyself 11y ago
Agreed, it's right there in their comments, a concern a lot of posters stated was that they were worried that their SO would be able to go have sex with someone else whenever they wanted. Which is quite silly, because if they don't feel the same fear about their partner sleeping around with non-prostitutes it indicates that their sexual security in the relationship is based entirely on their partner's low SMV/shitty game, not on actual trust.
dongpal 11y ago
I cant agree by the simple fact that it doesnt work like this in countries where prostituion is legal like Netherland.
You sound like you think people become superb worker once they forgot about women.
vandaalen 11y ago
Being legal and being socially accepted are two different things.
There is a culture of pounter-shaming nearly all over the world, which marks them as being weak, disgusting and/or misogynistic.
Plus: Here in Germany there is a big movement going on towards making it illegal again and establishing Scandinavian conditions.
loddfavne 11y ago
Society is run by sex-starved men, that's what being a beta is all about.
aaron_the_just 11y ago
It really is. They project their white-knight fantasies into policy.
[deleted] 11y ago
You really think the men who run society (aka politicians) are sex-starved?
Nicolay77 11y ago
No matter how much they earn, they act as money-starved.
trpMilo 11y ago
Not the people who run it. The politicians cater to the whims of the people, and the people are sex-starved.
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This sounds like complete bullshit you just made up because you thought it sounded good. Politicians do not cater to the whims of the people.
portn0y 11y ago
The crux is that prostitution puts a price on pussy. That makes most women uncomfortable, as the vast majority still to, to some degree, subconsciously buy into the terrible notion that sex is a favor a woman does a man, or a reward to dole out.
RedBigMan 11y ago
Prostitutes sell pussy at a wholesale rate. Most women being retailers do not want you to go to the Costco of Pussy.
Also legal prostitution devalues their pussy. Considering most women in modern feminized countries think that all they need to bring to a relationship is pussy you can see where this is going. I mean back in the day women at least high quality women were expected to be literate, well read and have several feminine skills (like cooking, cleaning, shopping for bargains for stuff the house could use, etc...). Now if they spread their legs they're A-OK to just take half their man's paycheck and blow it on clothes, shoes and makeup.
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shot_the_chocolate 11y ago
Aye, takes away their power to dangle their gash in front of dudes like a carrot. I have been with a prostitute before (in Amsterdam), i feel zero guilt and i saw it as tasting a piece of Amsterdam, all it was was a fuck, there's no deep meaning behind it and if any future women see it as a problem then it's their's not mine, not that i'd want to be with some cunt like that anyway.
KyfhoMyoba 11y ago
Actually, they sell the pussy a la carte, whereas most women are trying to get you to buy a package deal (LTR) with all kinds of stuff in there that men don't want. If men can just buy the sex, women won't be able to sell the rest of the package. Women don't like men having choice, because, generally speaking, in the SMV the choice is zero-sum; what one gender gains, the other loses.
rife_omeqa 11y ago
Something about "dangle their gash" had me in stitches.
Evolved_Red 11y ago
Agree with all of this, especially about putting the price on pussy.
It is still cheaper to hire a prostitute than to wine and dine and date a girl in hopes a man just might be able to get a glimpse of her titty meat.
At the minimum, with a hooker you know what you pay for. Can't say the same for inexperienced men in the dating game - they're still paying for pussy.
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aaron_the_just 11y ago
Someday I'll figure out why men don't just refuse to get a marriage licence + get a vasectomy before marriage.
RedBigMan 11y ago
Because some men want to procreate... Though skipping the marriage license can possibly be done, the truth of the matter is that in many jurisdictions common law marriage applies even if you dont get the piece of paper if you go through with a ceremony and introduce yourselves as Mr. and Mrs. So and So...
aaron_the_just 11y ago
Marriage provides no benefits and creates risk for a man who wishes to father children.
Common-law marriage is pretty much extinct, too.
RedBigMan 11y ago
Yeah, make sure you know the laws as they pertain to your jurisdiction.
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texture 11y ago
How about the fact that prostitutes are the most likely to have STDs (yeah your condom isn't protecting you from half the diseases you pretend it is), and you're spreading them to the general population?
The rate of herpes in prostitutes is somewhere near 95%.
cod3_monk3y 11y ago
Source for 95% or are you talking out of your ass?
How is this going to be different with a woman whose partner count is high? Do you think she used a condom each time? At least with a hooker, she'll force condom usage if she plans to be in the biz for awhile.
bgat79 11y ago
120% of statistics are made up on the spot
texture 11y ago
You have the internet, you are free to google research. I am not talking out of my ass, there is research to back it. Condoms don't fully protect against herpes or HPV.
According to research 1 out of every 4 adults has genital herpes and somewhere between 80 and 95% of people have antibodies for cold sores / HSV1.
But I guess it's easier to have a group mind that denies this and ostracizes anyone who brings it up. Why face a reality that's inconvenient when you can just chase away naysayers.
cod3_monk3y 11y ago
Of course I can google research. I want to know what source you're using so I can scrutinize it's legitimacy. Anyone can quote any garbage that's found on the internet as truth.
Of course condoms don't protect against Herpes/HPV. It's a skin to skin transmittable virus. Guess what else is skin to skin besides sex. Hugs, kisses, handshakes. I guess you should just live in a bubble to stay safe. Hell, even little children have cold sores. Do they patron prostitutes?
Look, you bring up a valid point but the only thing I'll agree is that prostitutes bring a higher 'risk' of encountering an STI. Stop being defensive when someone questions your numbers and support your argument.