The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
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Self-honest 4y ago
She knows what she’s feeling but she doesn’t know how her own brain works well enough to articulate it.
She doesn’t want him to cheat or lie to bring him down to her shitty level as has been suggested in the comments. She doesn’t want him to make her feel better about her own poor actions.
Her actions are a reflection of his value in her eyes. She is bored (read: uninspired). She so close to getting it. She has nailed the what, she’s just missing the why.
What: I want him to cheat.
Why: I want him to fuck other girls because that’s what a high value male would do when a female he is involved with crosses boundaries and acts like a shit head. He just keeps on keeping on no matter what I do or say. It’s disgusting how much of a pushover he is. I wish I wasn’t so openly disgusted. I feel like a bad person. If I thought he was fucking other women, and thought I might lose him because of my attitude or actions, I would be more attracted to him, thus inspired to try to please him. Then I would act right, and wouldn’t feel like shit about my actions and attitude.
I want to want to do good.
Oh why won’t he just be a high value man and walk away??? Signal your value you asshole!
muriXO 4y ago
Damn dude this was described perfectly
yes_kid 4y ago
This is exactly it. It's his fault, not hers.
Project_Zero_Betas 4y ago
Sums up her entire thought process.
silent_dominant 4y ago
She probably doesn't even want him to cheat. She just wants to know that he COULD because that would mean that he's a man of value and worth wanting to have.
If no one else wants him, neither doe she, because she compares herself with other women to estimate her own value
monsieurhire2 4y ago
Of course he COULD cheat. All it would take would be another younger, more attractive woman to come along to see his value and seduce him. It happens all the time to men who are married, provided they are attractive. And of course, attraction is a relative game.
She's just dumb if she thinks he's really a paragon of virtue. Has his virtue ever really been tested? Has he ever really been tempted? If he's like most virtuous people, he avoids temptation. He lives in a temptation free bubble. But what if the proverbial devil came, knocked on his door, invited herself in, then put the moves on him? How long would he last?
This woman is just a clueless idiot.
Theorymeltfool1 4y ago
These women are fucking nuts.
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Zackville 4y ago
Please, keep going. We are listening ! Very accuratr description
BestOrNothing 4y ago
This is by far absolutely the best explanation I have readed and I have readed like 30 different explanations in last few days.
lobstergenocide 4y ago
I love readeding explanations like this
NabroleonBonaparte 4y ago
This is the part that stuck out
She’s aware enough to know she’s a piece of shit, but she projects her shame and guilt on him.
Her internal monologue says: “If I’m low value, and this guy wants to be with me, he must therefore be low value. I don’t want a low value man”
She’s broken. There is no RP solution. Ship her to a therapist to handle her mental health and never contact her again.
It’s not even about Alpha/Beta, just don’t fuck or date crazy chicks. If these women, in a large enough demographic, were to never be able to date, society would ideally realize there’s an issue.
These should be female incels, but betas stick their dick in anything with a pulse, so...
longjeep2005 4y ago
She’s not broken, this is just how women are
NabroleonBonaparte 4y ago
Being broken =/= Hypergamy
A woman’s self hate is independent from her hypergamous nature.
The reason I say she’s broken is because even if you’re alpha, this woman will hate you because she hates herself. Therefore by associating in any degree, she will see you as inherently low value. Regardless of if you’re Chad or not.
It doesn’t matter how RP alpha you are if the only option of women around you have mental issues.
Therefore the goal is to become Chad AND avoid mentally ill women
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ex_addict_bro 4y ago
You guys ain't reading between the lines.
She fucks other men, that's why she wants him to cheat. So she will feel better about her being a shitty human being. Like most women.
urahara64360 4y ago
I mean anyone who's considered an all around good person are drama free and uninteresting. She's just unable to be content with an average life. She wants some kind of scandal or drama to break up what she sees as monotony.
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Actually if you’re wife is drama free and good then that’s great. Men don’t need that kind of emotional BS injected into a relationship to keep it exciting
But yea if it’s the man you’re doomed
[deleted] 4y ago
she needs a rollercoaster of feels
energyinmotion 4y ago
That's what magic mushrooms, MDMA, and DMT are for.
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your podcast with Naval was great, Joe
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AshyBoneVR4 4y ago
TL;DR
Woman wants husband to be a shitty person so she can feel better about herself.
This shit is fuckin laughable.
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alexzang 4y ago
“A 2018 study conducted by psychologists Pelin Gul and Tom Kupfer found that women prefer sexist men, “especially in mating contexts,” even though they have “awareness of the harmful consequences” of dating them.”
Pretty much sums up why we have this subreddit today
EDIT: fixed autocorrect
[deleted] 4y ago
This is absolutely true. But the sexist men that do well dating are masculine and can be “sexist” with a sly grin and a joke. They aren’t MRAs or incels, those type of sexist men are omegas in the dating world
Tutsks 4y ago
I think you are conflating different things. MRA is an ideology, and has nothing to do with dating success, or lack thereof. Fuck, most I know are dads, so they are, empirically, at least somewhat successful mating.
Incels are, by definition, men who have 0 dating success, and probably won't have it.
This is about masculinity, not sexism, unless sexism is defined as "belief in the existence of gender roles". And, we all know that masculinity, works.
ER, and the other incels are anti masculinity. They are for the most part, just as soy as the male feminist lunatics, but somehow even less sexually successful.
Anyway, posting this not because I think you are wrong, but because I find the language unhelpful, and can picture some idiot reading that and thinking that going and insulting some chick will get him laid. Odds are, it won't.
I've seen people "neg" girls by saying really mean things that make them cry and then go "well I'll be fucked, this shit clearly doesn't work because she didn't sleep with me".
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Anyone who is actively an MRA or vocal about it is a loser to the broader community, period. Sad but that’s how it is. Men don’t get the luxury of ability to complain
Tutsks 4y ago
That's incredibly blue pilled.
Men do not need the permission of anyone to tackle injustice. You feel like the issues are important? You raise it.
Yes, lunatics might try to demonize you, but if the last few years have shown anything is that lunatics will demonize everything anyway. You want to be safe from being demonized by the far left? You better make the cuck shed comfortable.
I'll tell you what men have the luxury and ability to do: What ever the fuck they want.
The lunatics and soy beings will ALWAYS find something to complain about, so? Let them. The lion cares not about the bleating of the sheep.
The worst thing a lion can do is act like a sheep so they'll accept him. A lion is good at many things, but the sheep are much, much better at being sheep. One that tries will die alone, and hungry.
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Lol go on bitching and calling yourself a lion mate. Whatever helps you sleep at night
Tutsks 4y ago
Oh c'mon, you post in a dead debate sub, clearly you can do better than that. The only fitting response to that contentless garbage is your mom helps me sleep at night, lul.
The only one bitching here, is you. The victim is you. The one asserting men can't do things, is you.
The Lion thing is a metaphor illustrating a complicated concept in simple, easy to grasp terms. Yes, we aren't lions, or sheep, we are men. But, you probably understand the difference between both.
If my point wasn't clear enough, I'll reiterate: Yes, some people don't like men's issues being raised. Those same people don't like anything, and shouldn't be a factor in your decision making.
This is the truth, as I see things, confidence and strength are the forces that shape the world. Be strong and confident (and, arguably, smart), and the world is yours. That doesn't mean things are, or will be easy. They won't. It merely means that they can be done.
My point is that you can't live your life attempting not to step on any toes. Well, you can, but I wouldn't describe that as living. And, if you gather anything from stories like this one, gather that, even if you skillfully dodge every toe, even if you are the most inoffensive, mold made, being, you aren't safe, and you never will be.
We live in a world of prey and predators. In the wild, or in society, much the same rules apply. The most fit individuals tend to bubble up, the least, to bubble down and cease to exist.
Either way, best wishes, and you do you.
[deleted] 4y ago
Purple pill debate is far more active than this sub you retard lol
Tutsks 4y ago
Who were you again? Its been a while.
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poopdeck 4y ago
The inevitable conclusion to it all
Cods_gift_to_reddit 4y ago
Or stand up against shitty behaviour and maintain your virtues
nicyhasreddit 4y ago
MGTOW and Red Pillers understand the same things about women. MGTOW give up while Red Pillers decide to get women knowing these traits about them.
187oddfuture 4y ago
Stop trying to see whose dick is bigger and just live your life.
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Imperator_Red 4y ago
But they literally are giving up lol. It’s not a moral judgement. It’s a fact.
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paulkersey1999 4y ago
women are NEVER satisfied with anything. they are miserable. if you give them what they say they want, 2 seconds later they will want SOMETHING ELSE. they are not even satisfied with themselves. they will always have a list of things they wish to change about themselves and, of course, if they do make the changes, they are never happy with them. such horrible creatures.
Omnidempotent 4y ago
The guy sounds like the perfect wife.
warlordchad 4y ago
Don’t get married, don’t get married, don’t get married...
emilandersenus 4y ago
This is just so fucking funny
black_people_ 4y ago
Women don't know what is up or down, left or right, and they don't know what makes them happy.
hazelstein 4y ago
Who gives a fuck? we are never getting married anyway. fuck these hoes to sleep and get on your purpose.
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Imperator_Red 4y ago
Hilarious... but probably a troll.
[deleted] 4y ago
The answer is not MGTOW the answer is strong men leading women in the right way to go.
Imperator_Red 4y ago
Leadership requires authority, and all authority ultimately relies on force. We have no authority because we’re not allowed to use force. So not sure how you’re supposed to “lead” when you have no mechanism through which to impose your will if she doesn’t do what you want.
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imPwP 4y ago
Why not MGTOW? Why do people here look down on MGTOW? I think both Red Pill life and MGTOW are good options, each his own. MGTOW is really wonderful and gets you out of this system, of course we all want to live a social life and mate with women, but men can go their own way if they wish to.
archaic-guy 4y ago
I know that i am getting downvoted but i think the problem is that:
1) MTGOW comunnity has changed a lot and is now mixed with the black pill one to the point that i who considerated myself one of them becuase it helped me get laid and better myself cannot longer identify with the actual group.
2) The Red Pill has gotten very dogmatic to the point that debate is sometimes replaced by drama and bullshit that i don´t care like the rollogate or whatever was that.
nicyhasreddit 4y ago
Their wish. But to me knowing what you know about women, MGTOW just aren't willing to take that risk. Red Pillers know how to get women because they know all these traits about women.
teveza11 4y ago
Well said.
I was reading about some strong men from history, Gheghis Khan has 35 million descendants, in Mexico, Pancho Villa had 24 kids that we know about, but probably several hundred, Brigham Young had 56 kids in Utah.
Conquerors and strong men don't cower because "women just aren't fair with me.' They CONQUER.
This MGTOW philosophy, self imposed sterility, celibacy, and isolation is downright pathetic in my eyes.
Get out there are change things, don't be content to "enjoy the little pleasures in life."
187oddfuture 4y ago
They didn’t have to deal with child support
teveza11 4y ago
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They dealt with things a hell of a lot more dangerous and difficult than "child support."
Imperator_Red 4y ago
Ok so go conquer. The government might have something to say about it. You’ll be in the poor house after your second out of wedlock baby mama sues you for child support.
teveza11 4y ago
That's the difference between you and them.
You are afraid of being poor and of "the government."
Men only get women and have the children if they have enough BALLS in their respective time period and circumstances.
Western civilization is flooded with cowards.
campfire451 4y ago
She wants him to bend her over and discipline her.
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teveza11 4y ago
I doubt that. He is a feminist man who thinks the best way to have a relationship is to be submissive, emasculated, and docile.
He's not planning to move out of the house or moving on.
Even if he does move on, in his new relationship, he'll continue to the same simp he has always been and will have the same results with the next woman.
[deleted] 4y ago
“I wish my husband would cheat on me so I’d feel better about my own behaviour”
You can read between the lines here that while they’ve been married, she’s swallowed more foreskins than a rabbi’s wastepaper basket.
Meanwhile he’s been working hard, having integrity, and doing everything a decent person should do. But ultimately having a whore wife is his failure - he is at fault here. He should have picked a better woman and he should have worked to be more attractive and keep her happy.
teveza11 4y ago
I disagree.
He could have picked a "better" woman and he would have the same result,
If you are going to be a male-feminist in a relationship, you are going to get cheated on, disrespected, and your wife will lose all attraction and respect for you.
187oddfuture 4y ago
Read that last paragraph again and tell me that isn’t as blue as the fucking ocean. HE shouldn’t work to keep HER happy, she works to keep HIM happy. Back to the sidebar with you.
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Yeah and she only does that if he is putting work into being attractive. She's not going to work to keep him happy if he's doughy, boring and poor.
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Back to the sidebar with YOU.
187oddfuture 4y ago
Yeah but he can’t be putting work into being attractive and successful FOR A WOMAN. He needs to do it for HIMSELF, the women come on the side. Really speaks to your mindset if you think he (read: you) should be doing everything to make a woman happy when he never should have married in the first place.
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Submitting to yourself (rather than something bigger - not a woman) is a one way ticket to your own personal hell. That’s what the ‘sin’ of pride is all about - “me, me, me” - and those fags are the most miserable, lost people on the planet. It’s like holding a mic up to a speaker - you just spiral into a horrible feedback loop.
Also, working to be attractive to maintain a relationship (with a good woman (as much as they exist)) is beneficial to both the woman and yourself, because the relationship nourishes and matures you. Yes “read: me”. I’m not naive at all about how cold and selfish women are, but I also know how sad and unfulfilling life without love is. Every one night stand killed a part me off. If you don’t want to start a family and devote yourself to something bigger than yourself, literally what is the point in living? At that point you’re just pleasure-seeking consumerist cattle. You are the guy from the Matrix who chose plugged-in hedonism over the truth - all the juicy steaks and eager thots your monkey brain could ever desire. That is literally the definition of choosing the blue pill.
Sad_Sleeper 4y ago
That once again proves one thing: Perfect is boring.
UltimaterializerX 4y ago
Of course she looks like an appendage.
RedDeadlift 4y ago
I thought she was a dude in drag from the thumbnail.
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RevolutionaryPea7 4y ago
Most women are bored. They are completely reliant on men for the source of interest in their lives. She doesn't really "want him to cheat". No woman knows what she wants. She just isn't getting feelings, and her dumb female brain has decided that cheating is one way to get those feelings. We know the real truth, though: she wants an alpha male.
Protocol_Apollo 4y ago
Only a few years ago, you would never find articles talking about/promoting cheating or cucking.
These articles are nothing but propaganda placed to plant seeds in the minds of women to corrupt them, so that one day they might ask their boyfriend/husband to try “opening their relationship”.
Just think about it, why the hell would they write stuff about people’s private kinks (cucking) and private relationship problems (some random bitch wanting her husband to cheat on her- who gives a shit about that?)
KuleAlexander 4y ago
Ugh. The world is over. Why do we even try anymore?
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The more the male population starts turning into cucks/wimps... the better you have it for getting women with your manliness/RP traits
teveza11 4y ago
lol, what do you mean?
The world is only over if you are a feminist man.
My relationship with my woman is perfectly fine thank you.
RedDeadlift 4y ago
Life is a game, a competition. Get out there and enjoy it like one. Enjoy the grind, enjoy the rewards.
Tutsks 4y ago
Because we are alive. And as long as we are alive, we fight.
This guy? He isn't perfect, he is a boring as fuck walking lump of soy.
If anything, take it as a warning about the dangers of soy, puff that chest out, and be the man of some girls dreams. It might last, it might now, but it will be fun.
And that is the whole point.
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Tutsks 4y ago
This is the weirdest flex I've seen in a while.
Uhm, good for you, I guess. Keep up the good work.
Imperator_Red 4y ago
No. We just don’t believe you, and we think your vegan ideology is laughable and retarded.
Edit: judging by your posts below you’re definitely at least mildly retarded.
Hypolife 4y ago
You aren't Zyzz kiddo, and never will be. Just some soy Gen X millenial wannabe.
Their was only one Zyzz and he's six feet under and 0% body fat.
Grow a personality.
Aestheticcunt1996 4y ago
Everyone has a bit of Zyzz in them. You just don't know it yet. Zyzz is a fuckin spirit brah, and Az was a manifestation of the Zyzz spirit. He's up there in Mt. Olympus and one day it's my time to ascend to the aesthetic gods u mad brah
celincelin 4y ago
I’m not homophobic or anything, but brah, keep that to yourself.
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Aestheticcunt1996 4y ago
u definitely mad brah☺️ get ripped or die mirin, but i suspect in your case it's gonna be the latter
Hypolife 4y ago
Lool, you aren't part of the sikkunt generation just a childish poser.
You aren't part of the sikkunt generation. U were jacking off at mommies when Zyzz died. Truth hurts bro. Og Zyzz Crew 4 lyfe
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Stink-Finger 4y ago
He can't cheat on her without having any balls.
Okynrom 4y ago
How come no one noticed she harbours the thousand-cock-stare ?
You don't make a housewife out of a...
Theorymeltfool1 4y ago
I should send this to my FWB, see what she says about it
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