The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
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throwlaca 5y ago
He can't do it because internally he see girls as better than him. The trick is to think of girls like if they are a bag of flour that you need in the supermarket. Hey do you want to come home. No? ok, on to the next bag of flour.
spnger4life 5y ago
Shortcut: introduce yourself to grandma. If she reacts good, point at her and say is this your daughter? She laughs. You tell grandma "oh shes cute huh?" then go right up to her ignoring friend.
LightSkinKen 5y ago
Your sub communication should speak” hey I was out and about , I saw you , of course I think you’re cute, you know exactly why I’m here and what I’m trying to do , I don’t know you , and you don’t know me , so let’s link and see if we like each other. IF “I” FIND YOU ACCEPTABLE YOULL GET LUCKY. that’s not hard to portray guys
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Hey man- I take it that since you're not responding to me that you're only doing drive-bys as a subscriber grab.
Correct me if I'm wrong otherwise we're going to take action.
cupshadow 5y ago
I don't like the approach of telling random girls you find them cute, you are qualifying yourself to them for free instead of showing value. And in today's culture, it's possible they interpret that as sexual harassment.
jonpe87 5y ago
For fear of failure, they fail for not to try. And this is worst than fail for have tried.
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hazelstein 5y ago
If I see a cute girl, I am going to talk to her . FUCK FEAR!
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Unless your self confidence, frame, and self belief is solid enough (assuming your looks aren't above average) this could easily end with some sort of 'harassment' situation if the girl gets a incongruent vibe from you.
If it goes well then great! If it doesn't go that well and she can easily attribute it to some unfavourable characteristic of yours, that will be enough for her to justify that it's harassment.
This guy wasn't ready for something like this. He's probably decent looking enough but he wasn't mentally there and considering attempting this in the current climate, something inside of him was telling him it could potentially go very bad.
It's actually easier to do something awkward or retarded on purpose because then if it doesn't go well, you can roll with it, and if any part of it goes well, that's a bonus. Kind of a cowards entry to approaching but who cares. Gives him enough plausible deniability until he at least gets a bit of confidence through some successful approaches.
sorry_mommy 5y ago
You people are scared shitless. If an approach doesn't go well, you simply get a "lol no thanks" not a harassment accusation. Attractive women are ACTUALLY harassed so many times during the day that they have to ignore them out of sheer volume. If they complained about every man who hollered at them on the street, they'd never have time to do anything else. But when a decently dressed man politely tries to start a conversation with them with a compliment, it's likely the nicest stranger-interaction they've had all day.
inertargongas 5y ago
Part of a successful cold approach is keeping it natural, and the guy in the video was nowhere near achieving that, though it wasn't entirely his fault. The area was crowded: the girl had another person right in front of her already, a friend next to her, and a little old lady off to her forward-right. He knew well enough not to shove the old lady out of the way, and instead went (climbed.. ugh) behind her, and you just don't want to sneak up on somebody from that position. I would've just been patient and looked for a better angle to approach, without having to resort to acrobatics.
On the plus side, everyone in that plaza looks like they're kinda gathered around focusing on something. That makes for an easy ice breaker. Just look at the same thing, come up with a remark, and throw it out there. Follow up with compliment, introduction, where you from, etc.
I approach a decent number of girls, maybe like one or two a day. I don't consider myself very physically attractive, but I'm passable. Success rate for getting text & instagram conversations going is probably like 50%, maybe more. The problem I have is securing a date. Everyone is so fucking boring. They're very happy to text, but won't go on a simple activity date so we can get to know one another better. Here's a tip, if you say you love animals and somebody invites you to a cool wildlife preserve you haven't heard of, how about you accept!? Worst case scenario, you cut it short. Women complain about men addicted to video games, but meanwhile they're addicted to social media, netflix, hell even sitting at home reading books. Anything to avoid venturing out into the big scary unknown. Hot women can be losers, too.
Another pet peeve: the moment I ask a girl out, it seems to go straight to her head, like she thinks she owns me. No bitch, I am inviting you to submit an APPLICATION. Verdict is still out on whether I like you or not, and I most probably don't! It's like just by asking someone out, I've put a floor on the bidding, and she will proceed to look for something better, with the thought in mind that I'm her new worst case scenario. I get so fucking sick of that shit.
1DGL 5y ago
dont ask the girl out then, tell
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
I got accused of harassment once and that changes the entire outlook. This girl made it a huge deal, I got banned from the festival I was at, random bitches and white knights in the street trying to start shit and a long standing reputation in my social circle.
Your comment just ignores this entire possibility and reality.
The culture and climate are different now. It’d be stupid to ignore that. Ask anyone who’s been falsely accused of rape and just stays away from women now.
If you aren’t great looking, you better have rock solid frame as it’s your last line of defense.
sorry_mommy 5y ago
I don't doubt that that happened to you, and it sounds like it seriously sucks. I can't comment though without knowing more of the context/story.
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Zech4riah 5y ago
Brilliant. This is actually a reason why I've been thinking about moving from cold north europe to warm asia/indonesia while still working for my current company remotely.
hazelstein 5y ago
High percentage of Landwhales and Anti Male Culture IS INCREASING at an ALARMING RATE!
SO is BETA PUSSY.
XXXMersenne 5y ago
Would both work? Or too inefficient?
Build a better piano for the sake of our own evolution. But "Better" outside of the values of mainstream ideologies aka Traditional vs bourgeois masculinity.
I continue with the former so as to not have "resigned" myself to another market for my inability to adjust (my supply) to current market conditions. There's no glory in being well adjusted in a maladjusted society. (ego defence?)
On the other hand however I still recognise that a change in supply would be beneficial, so I continue with it, even after moving to a HD market. Especially because I don't want to stagnate in a market with less competition. (More competition in west for scarce commodity of quality women).
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Drive by post with zero engagement.
I've given a warning but if I don't hear from him...
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clavabot 5y ago
But I don't want to provide value, I wanna nut and cut.
bestsparkyalive 5y ago
Tough to watch. Relatable.
Unrealenting 5y ago
Really pathetic. Dude has 0 frame.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
What are the REAL risks of approaching a woman? Rejection. Not a big deal.
Now consider this: if you're not willing to take a risk on women, where the risk is non-existent, what does that say about your willingness to take risks (and excel) in other parts of your life?
Bitches are just practice for the real shit.
throwlaca 5y ago
But it IS a big deal, do not avoid reality. That pain is nature's way of saying that your genes are not fit for survival. Naturally it will hurt, and pain will make you improve. Thats why rejection from a girl hurts so much unless you are a psycho.
papunigga031 5y ago
Outcome independence. Become the prize and build an abundance mentality and high sense of self-worth, along with a rock-solid frame. Then rejection doesn’t do anything to you.
Also recognize you are LEARNING, even when you are rejected. So you are always getting something out of it.
Zech4riah 5y ago
One risk would be realizing that you are not man enough for majority of the women. Does it do physical harm? No, but it may be a hard blow mentally when one is starting off - such a hard blow that one will stop trying right away and go back to their old habits. That's a very real risk which no one talks about or if they do the message is something like "Don't be a pussy you fucking spergster".
I'm not saying that the (well known) mindset you are suggesting is wrong, that's a good one to start with. I'm just saying that it's so binary thinking that bashing this "old pua truth" would fix all the obstacles/AA. If you are a winner and surrounded by winners you probably can't see the REAL risks but when you have seen couple of your buddies to fall into downward spiral, you know that there is real risks involved. Without happiness everything is meaningless and if getting constantly rejected keeps you unhappy...well what's the point?
Now, if you don't count in as a risk that mental hit caused by rejection which leads back to old habits or at worst - to mental downward spiral, MGTOW etc, we don't have more to discuss about the topic but I hope that I gave you some alternative aspect to this matter.
PS. Not taking risks with women doesn't say shit about your ability to take risks on other areas of life. It's a different thing to take a risk and lose money/fail at exam/job etc. than to risk getting rejected as a man. As an example: It isn't unusual that a fireman risks his life frequently but doesn't have balls to cold approach.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
All that is fine, but it's all avoidance.
A woman's rejection is never EVER that bad. It's not the rejection, it's the all the shit inside the guy that makes him respond that way. His core messages, core beliefs, fears, self-talk. You can avoid it, by never approaching, and say 'cold approaching is a risky thing'. Or, you can say 'if one or two rejections causes me to go into a downward spiral, maybe I have some shit to look at within myself'.
Not being able to take a risk on women, DOES say something about your ability to take risks in other areas. It says that on a core level, you stay safe. Some of those other risks may be within that person's comfort zone. Tough, dangerous and 'do or die', but still risks he's comfortable taking. What things about himself does a man not want to face, by being rejected?
darkmoon09 5y ago
Then you're supposed to find some other way to be happy in life without dating/women.
Idk man, it's seems odd and contradictory for a guy to habe the balls to risk his very life running nto a raging fire but not have the balls to apporach women.
hazelstein 5y ago
well, that escalated quickly
Vikingcel 5y ago
This is such a great advertisement
RedDeadlift 5y ago
Interesting YouTube channel. One of his other videos "FACT: Men Are Better Than Women (at Some Things)" is shocking. People are afraid to say that men are better at anything than women. He made a great point at the end.
https://youtu.be/oxpX6IQ3GY4
Our society is insane right now.
throwlaca 5y ago
The old dude a 3:00 ¨they are better at thinking... they drive better¨ genius!
cupshadow 5y ago
I can't watch this, the ugliest woman are the most entitled.
hazelstein 5y ago
Watched it at quite some time now. I just want to say men are better than women in everything from cooking food to making cars. Only thing women say they are better than men is Emotions, and that is correct because men know emotions are bullshit.
GreenBarbers 5y ago
Holy shit, the short haired girl and the pig are annoying as fuck.
666Evo 5y ago
That fat bitch standing there with her hands on her hips talking about "self importantance".
The total lack of self awareness some people have will never cease to amaze me.
hazelstein 5y ago
lmao true
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
It aint easing doing it especially on camera with another guy following you around. The dude is pretty damn good looking though and shouldnt have issues. He is 28 though and needs to dress like it instead of looking like Bart Simpson
EPArt 5y ago
He looks like hes on a uni campus though might want to blend in, although I agree smarten up at least a few degrees.
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
In grad school you can still dress like an adult. NYC different market tho
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
While the content isn't bad per se, we don't like drive-by posters looking to for subscriber grabs.
If you want to post here you must also engage the community.
teabagabeartrap 5y ago
yes, when reading here on work time, it sucks to see a video and have to remind me later at home then.
A forced TLDR (TLDW?) for youtube video postings would be really helpful...
PS2Errol 5y ago
It is amazing that the guy won't even do a simple thing like just introducing himself to the girl. He defeats himself. Totally mentally destroyed.
flapjacksrbetter 5y ago
Fuck this is me to a tee. I got the knowledge but I still need to apply it. Cant even approach cute girls at my college of fair of being “awkward.” I know I just have to do it once to get the snowball rolling
TheBunBun54321 5y ago
You gotta build up the references dude. 16 was when I went on the PUA/red pill journey. Now I'm 22 and have so much experiences behind me due to the 1000 of girls I've approached (assuming I've reached that level)
It really is all a leap of faith when starting out. Even now I have to remind myself that nothing bad will happen if I approach.
flapjacksrbetter 5y ago
Dude I am such a fucking chicken. I wish someone was behind me to push me but I know I gotta do it myself. I keep on making excuses
I know nothing bad will come out of it but I cant do it. Idk
EPArt 5y ago
You really do. I remember trying to approach once couldnt even get any words out then watch 5 mins later as some other dude rolled up on her. Worse thing she was like a 4 with stains on her skirt lol. Flash forward to a gym thot(not amazing but way better) with a nice shapely butt I rolled up on her this time. Complimented her on those cheeks bullshited and got the number & a hug. Didnt get with her in the end but practice made a lot of difference. Still a noob but that snowball is real, occasionally need to practice even if its just saying hello otherwise it gets smaller as I recently discovered.
majani 5y ago
Start with girls who are average to you to build confidence.
prokedude 5y ago
This guy seems pretty legit. Cool, calm, collective, engaging, challenging, but overall uplifting. I think the #1 most important trait of a TRUE alpha is the ability to lead while empowering others...
TheStumblingWolf 5y ago
It's not even just with women. What Sasha says applies to men in general. We don't trust our instincts and go for the things we want because we're told by society it's wrong and that it's toxic.
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RightHandWolf 5y ago
Ouch! The aura of betaness was just overpowering. 28 and just out of grad school, according to the video, so maybe he doesn't have enough time in the real world to get a handle on it.
1) Clothing is wrong. He looks like he's heading to the skateboard park. Unless he wants a skater chick or a goth girl, he needs to be dressed at least business casual. No second chance to make a first impression, as the saying goes.
2) He seemed incredibly uncomfortable talking to the host and looked like he felt very out of place - and if he's that awkward with nothing in play, he must really fall apart if there's anything to strive for.
3) If you keep doing what you've always done, you're gonna keep on getting what you always got. That's a saying from AA, but you don't have to have that kind of a problem to benefit from this advice. If you're not happy, either lower your expectations or ramp up your efforts. If you're subscribed to this sub, you've probably gotten tired of lowering your expectations.
4) This wasn't some small town in the Midwest or the Deep South . . . this was New York! The big bad city offers a huge amount of anonymity by virtue of the sheer number of people.
5) This last bit is from General George S. Patton: A good plan, violently executed right now, is better than a perfect plan sometime next week.
Captain_Quick 5y ago
Regarding number two, that awkwardness could easily be because he didn't really want to be on YouTube for all the world to see forever. I know I wouldn't be. I completely agree with the rest of your points though. And I love that General Patton quote.
RightHandWolf 5y ago
Okay, so he maybe got a case of "stage fright." But with CCTV cameras in almost every public venue, these days there is no expectation of privacy outside the home. That's not just my opinion, btw. The courts have made and affirmed this ruling several times, all the way up to the US Supreme Court.
This is truly a double-edged sword, but with the ever-present camera systems in every dry-cleaners, bowling alley, bingo parlor, supermarket and such, I don't see this particular genie being rebottled anytime soon.
All the world is a stage. - William Shakespeare
Captain_Quick 5y ago
Hardly anyone will see CCTV camera footage with him in it. Much fewer than 9 thousand times this video has been viewed already. And CCTV footage isn't nearly this embarrassing.
RightHandWolf 5y ago
Fair enough point about YouTube views versus views on a private security system, but the point I was getting at is from the time you leave for work until the time you bust out the fuzzy bunny slippers and have some Ovaltine, you are on camera most of the day. Even seemingly routine things can wind up on YouTube forever - the Station Night Club Fire is a example of this.
The background is that a few days earlier, there had been a fatal stampede at a Chicago nightclub, so suddenly night club safety was a relevant and newsworthy topic. One of the brothers who owned the club happened to be a reporter, so he persuaded a cameraman to come by and shoot some "B-roll" footage to go with the story.
What happened next? The pyrotechnics ignited the cheap foam being used as a sound dampening material. Within seconds, the whole stage was burning like hell, toxic smoke filled the venue, and the frantic rush for the exits began.
At least 462 people were present in a building with an occupancy limit of 303. 100 dead, 230 injured. Even those that made it out physically unscathed will probably have psychological scars for the rest of their lives.
Linky-thingy: https://youtu.be/nnul_HDvXMM
sanos7 5y ago
You say you want it. You’re told how. You’re guided through it. And you don’t do it. Then ultimately you must not really want it at your core. Frustrating to watch.
That ability to pull the trigger, that’s key. It’s like jumping off a cliff. Your fear is telling you no, coming up with all the things that might go wrong. Gotta put all of that out of your mind, ignore it, act despite it and just fucking do it, let the chips fall as they may. Because you know if you don’t you’re a coward and you’ll live and die like one. Small. Insignificant. Disappointed with life and yourself.
Tow1994 5y ago
Wishing vs. wanting
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Is found everywhere in life.
ratpoison987 5y ago
Nobody tries because #metoo
SuperCrazy07 5y ago
Nonsense. They are afraid of being rejected.
Metoo is plausible deniability (at least they think it is) for guys too afraid to say hi.
DigitalDragonSlayer 5y ago
Approaches like this during the day come down to confidence, energy, and...SMV.
Lower SMV? You’re harassing her. ????
0ToTheLeft 5y ago
pretty much hahaha. That dude would definitely have success with approaches like that, but don't tell a fat & ugly guy to do it, it will end with his self esteem even lower.
DigitalDragonSlayer 5y ago
A good tactic in sales, is to train a “no” into feeling like a positive. Every no gets your closer to a yes.
Then again it does your self esteem no good to get the shit kicked out of you 100 no’s in a row.
Up that SMV, and then get after it.
Captain_Quick 5y ago
I'm not saying that people shouldn't keep trying in situations like cold approaching, but isn't "every no gets you closer to a yes" the gambler's fallacy?
russian_nigger 5y ago
that's bullshit. i know two ugly fat dudes that don't give a fuck and slay pussy just like the rest of my friends. its all about the energy you bring forward. stop being a fucking pussy.
0ToTheLeft 5y ago
because looks doesn´t matter right? ugly & fat can work wonders if you have game? That´s buy-my-PUA-workshop level of bullshit.
Good luck with that low SMV getting shit tested and rejected by 3-4's
russian_nigger 5y ago
whatever workshop it might be from, i see it working for my two friends. so whatever they're doing is yielding results. i was blessed with good genes so i can half ass it and still get laid all day.
ratpoison987 5y ago
Lose-lose. No winners here. Maybe the dudes putting on the show
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warlordchad 5y ago
What the fuck???!!!
Guys this is why you get off the apps, delete social media if you can, and stay off the phone.
Howdoiusesync 5y ago
elaborate please.
majani 5y ago
Real life game is much more productive and apps discourage you from doing it.
Happyhour5 5y ago
Lol I see why he only meets chicks thru friends and apps