Ironically its usually used as an insult by the most pathetic blue pill guy too insecure to do anything but play video games unless there is at least one 3/10 around (bcz any girl more attractive is repulsed away by his presence).

Try to hang out with just bros but then people call it a sausage fest, especially the betas in the group.

Yeah it was called hanging out or chilling. Fucking those days were awesome.

Well a "man date" would be more like you and your bro grabbing dinner together someplace. Or seeing a movie. A term used to describe two dude hanging out doing something often done on a normal date.

I see no problem with its usage in that sense. I wouldn't qualify fishing, rafting, rock climbing, hunting, etc as man dates. See the difference?

Sounds like we need a mandate against the term man date.

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Honestly I think it has to do with the smv of women. Low smv women can't handle it and shit test constantly about it. The high smv women I know actually act interested in the bro time I have.

2) Women also hate being excluded from groups where the action is. "They hate the idea that there exists a space in the universe where the culture is not centered around themselves, pandering to their needs, and worshiping the dirt they stand on, this sacred ground. Women need men and need the feeling to be mutual, but the presence of our male exclusive spaces are evidence to the contrary. It shows that a man, even one women categorize as a provider, can have an enjoyable existence outside the presence of a woman. If a man cannot be controlled by sex, women are powerless." - The Covert Reason Women Hate Male Spaces

Very fucking true. How many of us have been in the relationship where the lady keeps reiterating how your guy friends are 'bad influences', or been the bad influence? From my experience that's code for - 1) single guy friend activities are dreading her; 2) they hate men having independence.

You can also turn it around on them and blast them for being homophobic. In a society of political correctness, hating gays is like hating women, or black people. Good luck keeping your job after that, fatty.

This is also why I love owning my own business and not working for the man. I can say whatever I want to women and the most they can do is call me gay. Want to try false rape? I have a hidden camera on me at all times and several security cams installed in my pad. Good luck, once again lol. My employee's can't fire me.

Also this:

https://archive.is/Z8Ohv

Women hate male spaces, and if you let them they'll infiltrate and cooped them to the best of their ability. Happens ALL the time. You could say feminism is a shit test writ large on society because that is what it did by making things women acceptable be driving men out of various jobs, hobbies, etc.

This is why i don't befriend women, yeah sure you can have benefits of social proof and shit, but fuck that.

I hate the nagging, and they always try to invite themselves to your "man dates" when you blatantly tell them to fuck off.

They hate the idea that there exists a space in the universe where the culture is not centered around themselves, pandering to their needs, and worshiping the dirt they stand on, this sacred ground.

I did a bit of work for a local non-profit that runs all kinds of events, from summer camps for kids to AA meetings for adults. It's basically a base where clubs and groups can hold their events/meetings.

There are several things that are aimed at only women. Some are specific, like a womens' club, and others are randomly female-only, like a craft group that excludes men.

These have gone on for years and nobody gives a shit.

But when the guy who runs the place, Kevin, started a "Men's Shed", things got interesting.

I made the poster saying that it was starting in two weeks time and put it in the window.

Within the following two weeks I counted twenty seven women who came in to talk about it and I wasn't even there much.

If Kevin was there, a woman or three would come in and recommend "Sally who can teach them pottery" or "Mary who can show them how to sew" or "Diane who can teach them cooking and cleaning".

Kevin, to his credit, always grinned and said "Boys only!" or "No girls allowed!" in a joking manner and handled them well. He never got into the conversation and just stuck to his guns. No women and that's final.

They kept coming back with new suggestions that were always women and their final gambit was to take the women's group, who met twice a week, and have a third night in which the men could join in, and they acted as if this was a huge favour that they'd be doing for the men.

Again, to his credit, Kevin told them that he thought that this was a great idea. The Men's Shed would have their night and then they could have a joint night with the women on another evening if they wanted.

The women came in force for that one, about ten of them, and it was hilarious to watch them as they tried to work it so that the men couldn't have their own club without actually saying it that way.

And Kevin gave them everything they wanted apart from that.

He basically said, without saying, that they could have a "We Hate Men" club that plans to skydive into Poland for invasion that can include or exclude men or whatever the fuck they wanted, but the Men's Shed will be the Men's Shed.

It was hilarious to watch. They fucking hated it but couldn't say so without coming out as bigots.

So it went ahead and they reverted to mocking the guys involved for being gay buddies and the like but it's been going strong for almost a year and, with Kevin at the forefront, the guys just let it wash over them as they do carpentry and go out kayaking and shit.

Point 2 is extremely accurate. The subject of marriage and children came up at work and instead of being smarter and simply lying I just said it's not for me and I'd rather focus on work and having fun in life. You can imagine how well that went.

probably pays more than the coal mine

This is my personal experience, but 100% of the time socializing outside of work, with co-workers, is a complete waste of time. I'd say the only benefit would be for a career in which there are events that can help with promoting business or business itself.

Every time I've gone out, the conversation has always been negative garbage. People talking about their struggles with life, idiots at work, old co-workers, it's just a complete cluster fuck of negativity drowned downed with alcohol.

I just avoid it at all costs, and decline their invites as cordially as possible. I've gotten flack from it because all the sudden I stopped going, and I guess some people took offense to that.

Iff they could look at the situation from a 3rd person point of view they'd realize not everyone gets thrills from gossipy garbage.

For every three events they invite you, go to one even though it might cut into your free time.

I'm much like you, I prefer the outdoor activities with my own friends instead of hanging around in a bar with people I've already been forced to spend upwards of 40+ hours a week with.

However, you don't want to be branded as anti-social! Networking/branding yourself still is key to receive promotions.

Unless you're a woman/minority, in that case you'll get fast tracked into high powered positions thanks to quotas/affirmative action even though you don't have the qualifications and there are a lot more qualified people (read: men) that would otherwise have received that promotion.

I can't believe people don't recognize that quote and recognize it's veracity:
do you even Einstein bros?!

Gonna have to disagree with you.

I've made lots of friends at workplaces by sharing things I like to do, finding they like to do them too, then doing them with them. Isolating yourself from a big, built in social circle is just stupid and paranoid.

I do agree on not mixing FB and work though, if you actually use FB to post things and not just as a communication tool.

I use Facebook as an online rolodex, but I have a strict no-coworkers policy. There's no benefit in letting your work colleagues into your life, and it could work against you if they find any dirt on you. This goes double for sites like LinkedIn.

The best thing to prevent this is to just not use social media at all.

I remember exactly when I started my current job, and literally after being there for a few months people wanted my facebook, phone number, etc. I just simply said I don't use those things much, so what's the point?

I also don't go out after work with them anymore, as I did once before and all they do is bitch and talk shit about...surprise, work.

I'd also get sort of shit tested by them when I'd politely decline their invitations too; "Well what else are you going to do tonight?"

People really are clueless about the world we live in. They think that it's impossible for someone other than themselves to actually, you know, have a life outside of TV and work.

I agree with this a lot. No one at my work place knows anything about me except my name, what I do ,and where I go to school. I learned early on not to reveal much about myself since people are just looking for you to either validate yourself to them or acquire knowledge about you to use later against you.

I really like that sponge analogy.

Why are your co-workers on your facebook page? Why can they see your photos? There are privacy settings that can stop that.

I've received friend request from people I work with. I add them to the 'colleagues list' which severely limits what they can see/what I post - even though I barely use Facebook anyway (people tag me on occasions - that's it). I'd rather not have the hassle of not accepting their friend request.

You don't need to be an information faucet, spewing out all of the details of your life.

Couldn't agree more. I posted this before, but I'll cite it as it is relevant:

Fun anecdote: I was branded sexist by a male co-worker (out of shape, bitch tits, full blown beta) in my first office job a couple of years ago because I said I didn't take women out to restaurants on the first date, and that I expected them to pay for their own drinks when we hung out for the first time. Can you believe that shit? Note: I learned my lesson from that encounter.

Law 38: Think As You Like But Behave Like Others"

We all know we should be content with ourselves and whatnot but i mean, it's fun letting others know you are having fun. It lends itself to oportunities to meet other people that are interested in the same things. Without the public nature of OP's life he wouldnt have had the fun hangouts with his male coworkers that he had.

You can't go aroun acting like everyone's gonna be a cunt to you man. I get what you mean with the apparent seeking of validation that OP is after, but if you are not ever going to tell people about the fun shit you do how do you even plan on meeting fun people to hang out with? And that's assuming you already do fun shit by yourseld, what if you are seeking new things to do? Imagine if everyone at your workplace would tell you they just sit at home and stare at a wall for 48 hours every weekend because they want their shit to be secret. You never know when you are gonna meet someone awesome through common interests

Hey TheJessee I hope you have a great life and get all that you work hard for... you are a peer worthy of other men and we all strive to match your fantastic accomplishments by leading us into bettering ourselves, thank you, sir! :)

"fat and sassy" is pretty much equivalent to "stuck in a crab bucket". Once you internalize this, you'll struggle to take anything these women say seriously and pass their tests with flying colours.

I completely get your point, but I disagree. The system is the way it is for a reason, they have those reactions because of underlying reasons that won't change. If they are unhappy, that means you are going the right way. At the very least they have to be uncomfortable.

You're at a social event and Joe betabux is uncomfortable with you around because his girlfriend is there? Good. Your coworkers don't like you because you are more effective at your job and they are looking worse because of it? Good. You're sporting awesome physique and your friends are fat and jealous? Good.

If you're feeling particularly magnanimous you can pass their shit-tests without making them feel inferior. You'll dismantle their idea that such happiness is impossible without getting them defensive, it might very well make them better people in the long run.

I guess some girls do that but I think there's a large faction that know they need to find a husband soon, and try to get their fat college asses in shape if they don't want to be alone forever (see: don't want to pay their own bills forever).

Realizing they're ugly and there's little hope for them? Yeah, I can see them going down the road you're describing.

They are clawing on the walls trying to get out

In this case, the crabs are trying to pull OP in so he can entertain them on their turf to satisfy their opposing needs for security and thrills.