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TominatorXX

Posted 8y ago in Meta - Permalink - Locked - 13.1K Views

Read from bottom up, old to new (mine is indented): from IrbyTremor [M] via /r/offmychest/ sent just now

OK then go defend Nazi's while never ever questioning your priorities, assumed entitlement to a platform and your complete misappropriation of the concept of free speech.

And then don't contact us anymore

re: you've been banned

from TheYellowRose [M] via /r/offmychest/ sent just now

It doesn't trouble us at all, we have a duty to protect our users and maintain the safe space. Bye. to yellowmix [M] via /r/offmychest/ sent 3 minutes ago

Does the "thought police" aspect of what you're doing trouble you? I don't "support" any sub on Reddit. I read some, I comment on a few.

I'm a Jew but even I would defend a Nazi's right to post his or her thoughts. That's why our founders fought a War and passed a First Amendment.

There are NO bad ideas. John Milton said it better than I can:

“Let her and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse in a free and open encounter?”

― John Milton, Areopagitica

re: you've been banned from yellowmix [M] via /r/offmychest/ sent a minute ago

I searched for a post or comment under my name to your sub to no avail. I have never posted here, according to Reddit's search function.

File a bug report with Reddit. It is supposed to be impossible to get a ban notice unless you have accrued karma in this subreddit. You can see the Reddit code that deals with this here: https://github.com/reddit/reddit/commit/52b4be07499e7746517c15e41735c9586092df05

theredpill is a hate subreddit, the only question is if you support them. They have been invading this community and making it unsafe for our community members, so we are taking preventative measures. As you claim to have never posted here, there is no material change to your situation.

re: you've been banned

I searched for a post or comment under my name to your sub to no avail. I have never posted here, according to Reddit's search function.

2 Be that as it may, I have never posted anything offensive to your sub. So your ban on me is curious to say the least.

As to your second point, I do occasionally, rarely, post to red pill. Like any other sub, I find some of their post informative and many others crap. Just like this sub and most others. But do I understand you correctly that you are banning people from your sub merely for posting to another sub? That you will ban someone who posts on Redpill regardless of how useful or thoughtful his post is to your sub or either one?

from yellowmix [M] via /r/offmychest/ sent an hour ago theredpill continues to invade this and other subreddits, spreading their hateful messages. We are automatically banning any supporter of this hate group.

If you received a ban notice, you must have posted, commented, or voted in this subreddit sometime, anytime, in the past, as recorded by Reddit. Everyone else does not get the ban notice. If you do not support theredpill, we are willing to discuss and unban.

I've been banned but I've never actually posted to the sub. Could you explain? Thanks. Did I do something that I"m not aware of?

Interesting. Why? I've never even posted there. Could you share a reason? Thanks.

subreddit message via /r/offmychest/ sent 12 hours ago

you have been banned from posting to /r/offmychest: Off My Chest | What you've been holding in for too long.

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BluepillProfessor 8y ago

Don't forget to ban all the married red pill guys- can't have men getting power cuz patriarchy comrade.

raob11 8y ago

me too, just got my ban.... oh well

spectrum_92 8y ago

I love that you quoted Milton, although I'm sure it went right over their heads. Philistines.

isayimnothere 8y ago

I just had this happen to me. I only made one post in there over a year ago so its not a huge deal but it really is shocking that people like this exist. Makes me feel like I need more power to defend myself from censorship even though I haven't said anything harmful.

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NeopolitanAfterglow 8y ago

Consider this a valuable exercise in TRP. When shitty people ban you from their life, they're doing you a favor. Embrace that shit.

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TheRedThrowAwayPill 8y ago

Nonsense - they are trying to attract as much mainstream foot traffic as possible. Can't keep growing w/ Reddit gold alone.

So by growing mainstream traffic, they have to quell any notions of "unsavory" groups that the MSM is not used to reporting about.

On top of that Reddit had a past even before redpill.

So they have to "clean up their act" if they want growth. Probably if they want VC money as well. Unlikely, but possible.

(Also, Ellen Pao. Smaller extent but still worth mentioning).

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TominatorXX 8y ago

Absolutely. I'd already unsubscribed from the sub for being boring. But how hilarious to be banned from posting from a sub I NEVER posted on?

xwm 8y ago

But how hilarious to be banned from posting from a sub I NEVER posted on?

Almost as hilarious as me getting banned from a sub I've never even viewed before. I only knew it existed because someone else mentioned it in some comment I read once.

sailorJery 8y ago

right? there's that popular saying from that one fantasy show on HBO that would apply, something to the effect of, "if you cut out a man's tongue you're telling everyone you fear what he has to say."

IllimitableMan 8y ago

there's that popular saying from that one fantasy show on HBO that would apply, something to the effect of, "if you cut out a man's tongue you're telling everyone you fear what he has to say."

Yep, Tyrion Lannister from Game of Thrones. I call him "miniature Machiavelli."

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the_number_2 8y ago

And isn't it supposed to be a judgement-free area where you get just say anything to, I don't know, get if off your chest?

I have seen actual racist posts there, ones that get upvoted and even have supportive comments, and that's cool, but being subbed to TRP is the line?

my_redpill_account 8y ago

Judgement free as long as you what you're getting off your chest is what others approve of.

the_red_scimitar 8y ago

None of those other things violate the Feminist Imperative, so feminists of this stripe (because I believe there is a rational, RP-compatible form of "feminism"), including the bulk of beta males and similar SJWs, are all too happy to live in their echo chamber.

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wtf_hell 8y ago

I tend to notice (not just on Reddit) that places labelled as "safe zones" or "judgment free" are anything but. They are just places for someone to coddle their own fragile psyche, and it produces these complaints.

through_a_ways 8y ago

I have seen actual racist posts there, ones that get upvoted and even have supportive comments, and that's cool, but being subbed to TRP is the line?

Women are a privileged group that have the unique ability to masquerade as a persecuted one.

No matter what you think of affirmative action, black violence, etc., minorities actually do have it bad. Whether you should be obligated to care about that, though, is a different issue altogether.

Meanwhile, when you evaluate women under the same criteria, you'll find the opposite results. Women are far less likely to be given harsh prison sentences, profiled by the police, skipped over for jobs due to discrimination, arouse general suspicion or fear in the average person, etc. when compared to men.

As far as analogies of race and gender go, women are the gender-equivalent of white people, and men are the blacks/non-whites.

The only difference is that the sympathy gap between women and men is much larger than the one between whites and blacks.

[deleted] 8y ago

FPH is a line, too. Got banned for making a post there. They didn't even respond to my inquiry about it.

whitepeoplecrazy 8y ago

TRP obviously strikes a chord with the mod, so he/she sticks the proverbial fingers in the ears and screams "Na Na Na Boo Boo".

Squeezymypenisy 8y ago

Its only 2 mods still active too. From what I've found a crazy communist and a strange black guy.

flyingwolf 8y ago

I have never posted, heard of, contributed or voted on that sub, in fact yesterday was the first I had heard of the sub. I am banned.

TominatorXX 8y ago

I actually wasn't even a subscriber to the sub when banned. Seems they are searching for posters to TRP and banning us. Hilarious. Like we'd care? You've been banned from a sub you don't give a crap about.

happilydamaged 8y ago

I've never heard if that sub also, and I definitely don't want to go there now. I hope I also get banned for this comment. We don't need to be bothered by them, we have real problems to deal with.

NeopolitanAfterglow 8y ago

I don't think I would have any way of knowing if I was banned. I never look at my "inbox" because it's spammed with hundreds of message notifications, and I have no interest in posting in any other reddit, so I never try.

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flyingwolf 8y ago

Yea I never got a message either. Just thought I would try to post "you are banned".

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There was a meme posted on adviceanimals not too long ago. One of the "Actual Advice Mallard" ones that said, "If you loan someone money and never hear from them again, it was worth the money."

Of course that largely depends on the amount, but I'm good with $50 too.

TheRedPilsner 8y ago

I heard somewhere once "If you loan money to a friend, be prepared to lose them both." Wise words.

NeopolitanAfterglow 8y ago

I loaned $600 to a "friend" several years ago. Actually, he was my ball coach, and he promised to pay me back within 6 weeks. Well, one excuse led to another, and a year and half went by without seeing a penny returned. The relationship got very strained, and he seemed to be treating me with less and less respect, almost disdain at times. It reached a point where I almost abandoned hope of getting repaid. I just couldn't take feeling like a pussy.

I eventually flipped out on him and told him how things will be. I said I want $100 back by the next game, and he would pay my fees (roughly $100 every six months). He'd never heard me pissed off before in my life.

I managed to get $520 of my $600 back, and we're better buddies than ever. The remaining $80 doesn't seem to mean much anymore, but we still talk about it now and then.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^0.5090

What is this?

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Adam Carolla talks about this all of the time. Once he made it, all his high school/construction buddies would ask for "loans." If he asked for the money back, there were excuses. If he denied their next request for money, he was a fucking douchebag rich-guy who'd "changed."

laere 8y ago

This is why I never let my sister ever borrow money from me again.

One fucking time I lend her 50 dollars to pay a bill (later found out she spent it on booze). Never saw it. No matter how much I'd bring it up.

I refused ever since to ever help her with anything ever again. Fucking siblings.

Lend my dad or my mom money, hey no problem, get it back in less than a week. ALWAYS. And then my parents wonder why I never talk to that fucking parasite.

martypete 8y ago

it sounds like she may have an addiction...

UmphreysMcGee 8y ago

You don't speak to your sister over a matter of $50? If it was just a random friend, yeah, but that's a pretty shitty reason to cut off a sibling.

How old is she?

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laere 8y ago

I did. Also borrowing money and lying about it to buy booze to fulfill her addiction? Yeah man definitely should keep her around.

NeopolitanAfterglow 8y ago

Uhh I'd rather just keep the $50 actually.

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648262 8y ago

You wouldn't spend $50 to get rid of shitty people in your life?

rlh1271 8y ago

Nah. There's other ways to find out who's a shitty person without capital investment.

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you're not wrong though this seems like the easiest one

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ToshiroOzuwara 8y ago

Censorship is an admission of defeat in an argument. It is a terrible long term strategy.

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the_red_scimitar 8y ago

Brilliant and true. And yes, it comes crashing down, but often after those who set it up are gone.

TheRedPilsner 8y ago

As Tyrion Lannister said in Game of Thrones "If you cut out a man's tongue you haven't proven him wrong, you've only proven that you fear what he has to say."

happyhorse_g 8y ago

Well it's working for those who cut of the heads off film makers and shot cartoonist. I'm not advocating that, by the way.

DeveilsEnDoughnuts 8y ago

Good point, I've seen people talk about data on censorship of porn in countries and those countries tend to watch more disturbing things. Also religions.

If you received a ban notice, you must have posted, commented, or voted in this subreddit sometime, anytime, in the past, as recorded by Reddit.

Without even looking at the content or knowing what the person they are banning are actually about.. I don't care if I'm banned or not from any other subreddits. I will take it as a compliment knowing I can think for myself along with making decisions for myself.

As a side note, I think most of the posts on here are laughable (in a pathetic way) but I do find value in some.

redpillbanana 8y ago

And feminism cannot exist without censorship precisely because its ideas are indefensible in an argument.

the_red_scimitar 8y ago

Excellent point. And one can extend that to any subject being censored.

thedude122487 8y ago

Censoring opposing views is fundamentally just an Appeal to Force logical fallacy, eg. "Your wrong because I said so and I have the power to silence you from defending your position."

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EpicLevelCheater 8y ago

Censoring opposing views is fundamentally just an Appeal to Force logical fallacy

Only when you're wrong (like feminists).

When you're right (like us), then censorship protects your community against the threat of invasion by an ignorant and purposefully-defiant "democracy". Let in too many fucktards, and pretty soon you can't even have a conversation without having to justify every word you say to the unwashed hordes.

Scientists may discuss the finer points of gravity at very small and very large scales (of atoms and stellar bodies), but no one vehemently debates the accuracy of Newton's Laws, because we know that shit works for us at our scale.

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I support TRP, but it's fair to point out that WE censor opposing views all the time. We have a zero-tolerance for people who make posts through the feminist school of thought (in other words, the opposing view.) Though I agree with your point, I don't think we can really criticize others on this matter.

veggie_girl 8y ago

It's not zero-tolerance for intelligent conversationalists. We've had open debate in the past. But if you come in and ignore the sidebar, spread feminist garbage, or outright resort to ad-hominem and other shame tactics, your ass is grass. Posting 2-word comments and jpg meme comments is another no-no. TRP mods are about quality control, not censorship. At least from what I've seen since it started, I'm not a mod.

USmellFunny 8y ago

Yeah but it's the community that decides "this guy's ideas are in conflict with our ideas". There's no random bot reading your post history and banning you if you posted to some feminized subreddit.

lightfire409 8y ago

From my understanding, so long as you aren't using common shaming tactics and are able to support your point, you wont get banned. Downvoted, sure. But its not an autoban.

Of course, you can argue against TRP without appealing to feelings/irrationality so its a futile exercise to begin with.

interestedplayer 8y ago

one thing to notice too, is who is in danger of extinction. if /r/askreddit comes over here and vote brigades, they can only with their current online members override the entire TRP. if TRP tries to do that it barely makes a dent...

I_HaveAHat 8y ago

People get banned from trp because the users here don't want to argue with bluepillers all day. Op got banned simply because of a difference in opinion.

Big difference

busyalterego 8y ago

No, that's not censorship, that's just protocol. To post, everyone must read the sidebar.

If they say something obviously blue pill, odds are they either didn't read the sidebar or disagree with something in it. If they disagree with the sidebar then they can post about that all they want. People will dowvote the shit out of them because of course the sidebar is true. Then they will get banned: after saying retarded shit and being downvoted to hell by a community of truth seekers who are done with lies.

That's not censorship, it's getting rid of lying trolls.

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I dont see people get banned here, unless I am missing something. Downvotes do the work just fine.

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I got banned before for simply criticizing a post. Not Bp or troll and I had hundreds of karma at the time. So yes people get banned here for silly stuff.

Invalidity 8y ago

I have seen that zero-tolerance expressed, but for the most part, it's usually reserved for people who don't express intelligible views and/or comments that only intend to incite people and have no intention of reaching a logical conclusion.

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Yes, of course. I, in fact, agree with and understand the use of the policy. Though it is absolutely ridiculous to ban some one just for being a member of a sub, I find it slightly humorous that we complain about censorship.

systemshock869 8y ago

TRP doesn't ban people for expressing the opposite view. They ban trolls that repeatedly annoy people and stir up arguments. They block posts about why the redpill is a hate group and is totally wrong because it's not really relevant to the purpose of the sub. They ban their own members who repeatedly post worthless shit that doesn't contribute to anything. They ban for tone policing. Keeping content on track and worthless arguments from cluttering the form isn't censorship, it's management.

Being banned for expressing an opposite view or simply because of association is the behavior of weak, pathetic, closeminded people whose lives are ruled by fear. I see a world of difference.

redpillschool Admin 8y ago

Post this same comment there and see which one stays up longer...

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rockymountainoysters 8y ago

This is the equivalent of TRP mods autobanning anybody who's ever posted in /r/relationship_advice.

Let us protect ourselves from their vile hate over there at /r/relationship_advice, lest our delicate principles be tainted.

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[deleted] 8y ago

That's the difference, they're clearly autobanning people based on association, and AFAIK, you have to actually post in TRP to get banned by TRP.

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Pretty sure you have to be annoying about it, too.

vengefully_yours 8y ago

Causing problems, trying to steer the conversation for the purpose of subverting or diluting the content....Yeah, annoying shit. Not just showing up. Hell, I rarely post anywhere else with this /u/ and none of the others have been in here. Good luck connecting the dots.

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HumanSockPuppet 8y ago

No one claiming to be a feminist has ever posted anything here other than insults and hate-fueled vitriol. Feminists and SJWs don't come here to engage in rational debate. They come here to get attention.

In the interest of preserving the signal-to-noise ratio, and preventing this sub from becoming a reason-vs-shouting arena like PPD, I think censorship is entirely appropriate.

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And I 100% agree. It's a necessary function. Although other subs are far more extreme, I still find it humorous that we make such a big deal out of censorship on other subs.

ubiety 8y ago

This is the first time that I'm aware of such a preemptive censorship policy has been implemented to this extent. I think an analogy is in order to help you understand the different contextual meaning of "censorship".

Imagine you're depressed one day, you feel down and out of it but the next day you shake it off and realize you were having a bad day. You use the word "depressed" because it fit the feelings you felt.

Now Imagine you're depressed all the time. You can barely function or move out of your bed because everyday you're too sad to do anything to help yourself. You have clinical depression.

In both cases, the word "depression" is used, but have entirely different meanings based on the context. Calling the first one depression would be a baseless exaggeration. Calling the second one depression would be an accurate analysis of the true events.

What you're doing with each of your comments is conflating Red Pill censorship with the actual censorship in Off My Chest. This is a piss poor comparison as neither is similar to each other in how it censors dissent, except by your usage of the word "censorship". The contexts are completely different.

Off My Chest is apparently banning (censoring) every Red Pill commenter regardless of if her visited their sub. Meanwhile, the Red Pill largely bans (censors) trolls and people who cannot understand an argument or pushes for brownie points on their minute exceptions or "tone issues" with how something is phased... In other words idiots distracting from the main point of view.

Although the words banning and censorship are used in the above paragraph, they have completely different intents. You can still argue in The Red Pill if you have reasonable arguments. You have no chance (after appealing?) for Off My Chest if they deem you too toxic and unsafe for their subreddit.

[deleted] 8y ago

You're absolutely right, but really guys, I was just making a joke.

stringerbell 8y ago

Censorship is an admission of defeat in an argument. It is a terrible long term strategy.

Ummm, every church on the planet has been pretty darn successful at it for the last 2,000 years...

Nicolay77 8y ago

It lasted about 1500 years for the catholics.

As an strategy it was pretty effective.

It's the externalities of that strategy the actual problem. It devastated actual culture and left us with a bunch of silly rhetoric.

Stayinghereforreal 8y ago

"unsafe"

They keep using that word, but I don't think it means what they think it means...

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Funstation 8y ago

...and ideas, Mr. Cready, are bulletproof!!

TominatorXX 8y ago

This is my favorite quote:

“Let her and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse in a free and open encounter?”

― John Milton, Areopagitica

Squeezymypenisy 8y ago

If you looked at the list of mods, only 2 are still active and both are major SJWs. Also, does being banned mean you can't subscribe and the comment function is disabled? I think I was just banned, but I can still see the sub, but the comment light flashes red.

edit: Yea everyone who commented on here is slowly getting banned, but I didn't get a message.

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thedude122487 8y ago

If they're so convinced that their Blue Pill beliefs are right, they should be encouraging Red Pillers to post. The absurdity of our beliefs would be exposed immediately and nobody would take us seriously. Isn't that what they want? So what exactly is it that those mods are so afraid of that they are banning people simply for posting in /r/theredpill?

I don't know about you guys, but one of the reasons I started reading the Red Pill is because of people on Reddit making a fuss about how "dangerous" it is. When people call ideas that I don't understand "dangerous", that's what makes me want to fully investigate them. The systematic censoring of TRP ideas has probably caused more people to swallow the red pill than our Blue Pill SJW friends would ever care to admit. The best thing to do to stop the spread of an idea is ignore it.

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nomad-oz 8y ago

People will forgive any lie you say about them, no matter how outrageous, but they will never forgive the truth.

sweetleef 8y ago

they should be encouraging Red Pillers to post. The absurdity of our beliefs would be exposed immediately

Authority going to lengths to prohibit ideas is a sure sign that there's some merit to them.

User-31f64a4e 8y ago

We are dangerous. We speak the truth.
The truth is very dangerous, as it upsets anything built on a sketchy foundation.

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srtor 8y ago

fucking mods are useless in some of those subs. 'protecting innocents' really? Any censoring is not protecting but is furthering own/group agenda. Loser SJW nazis.

renzy77 8y ago

If they're so convinced that their Blue Pill beliefs are right, they should be encouraging Red Pillers to post. The absurdity of our beliefs would be exposed immediately and nobody would take us seriously.

From Paul Graham's essay, What You Can't Say:

No one gets in trouble for saying that 2 + 2 is 5, or that people in Pittsburgh are ten feet tall. Such obviously false statements might be treated as jokes, or at worst as evidence of insanity, but they are not likely to make anyone mad. The statements that make people mad are the ones they worry might be believed. I suspect the statements that make people maddest are those they worry might be true.

If Galileo had said that people in Padua were ten feet tall, he would have been regarded as a harmless eccentric. Saying the earth orbited the sun was another matter. The church knew this would set people thinking.

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Why does Paul Graham keep popping up in these discussions about censorship? Yes, he wrote that essay. He also created a news site called Hacker News and created the heavy handed censorship over there that reddit is now adopting. Welcome to Silicon Valley. It's only going to get worse.

bookhockey24 8y ago

Sam Altman actually implemented the "heavy handed censorship" at HN, though I agree overall with your assessment of the Valley. Sad that the future is already in the hands of a despotic, socially irreparable regime.

Jimmy_Big_Nuts 8y ago

This is not just a cliche - they are worried about us triggering or 'trolling' them with our opposing views. 'Safe space' refers to women's refuges and rape huts and so on. It's where mentally traumatised people go to rock backwards and forwards. They don't want us there because we are truthful, blunt and utilitarian and masculine. Their sub is about examining emotions and solving nothing. TBH, a sub like that should be called r/safespace-for-whining-weak-ass-bitches, surely?

User-31f64a4e 8y ago

The ultimate irony, of course, is that ducking the traumatizing issue in a sanitized hugbox is exactly the opposite of the approach used in therapy, where an individual is led to face their issues.

Really, has any problem you ever had gotten better because you ran away and ignored it?

Jimmy_Big_Nuts 8y ago

Oncoming vehicle?

But I agree with what you actually meant.

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denart4 8y ago

Words are their only power to corrupt you.

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And unfortunately for us that power is highly effective.

TominatorXX 8y ago

I know. Like how can ideas? Even "bad" ones be "unsafe"?

Is the goal conformity?

BluepillProfessor 8y ago

The goal is to put all men in the rice fields with those funny hats.....

User-31f64a4e 8y ago

Close. The goal is not deviating from "the narrative", a bullshit made up story (e.g. patriarchy, rape culture, etc.), so that they can then justify social engineering based on everyone's reaction to this narrative (that none dare question.)

Example: If it becomes widely known that rape culture is a lie, then they don't need kangaroo courts for men, then men don't have to tip-toeing through the mating game, and women the power to control any man with a mere accusation. "Je t'accuse" no more.

ioncloud9 8y ago

bad ideas can be unsafe. Take the antivaxers, for example. A very bad idea, easily spread like wildfire, and is directly responsible for the resurgence of these diseases that were formerly wiped out. Humans can be dumb, panicky, dangerous animals.

User-31f64a4e 8y ago

Widespread adherence to bad ideas can be a problem. Failure to vaccinate, for example, puts innocent third parties at risk.

That's why, if you're not an imbecile, you value robust debate.

Day_man2020 8y ago

Yes that's exactly the point. Also as an electrical lineman calling any words that come out of someone's mouth "unsafe" is laughable. Get one of these SJW cunts in the field for a day they'd probably go home in an ambulance or a hearse. There are unsafe things, words ain't one of them. It's so sad how we've let ourselves go as a society, no country for old men.

TheGurw 8y ago

Slightly off-topic, but as an electrician who has done some sporadic lineman work, I have nothing but respect for you and others in your trade. Nothing says "balls" like putting your life in the hands of a flimsy padlock several kilometers away from you while you work on a line that carries 380kVa or more.

Or the ironworkers/tower erectors on the 500kVa line in south Alberta, the one where they separate the tower holding live 380kVa lines, helicopter lifts the upper sections of the tower and they put in the new section that will hold the 500kVa lines. Balls. Balls everywhere.

kaspell 8y ago

I had a patch of unhire- ability for a few years and ended up doing ironwork in refineries in Long Beach, Ca for a little over a year. It was one of the most rewarding jobs I've had. They essentially pay you to work with fire, giant cranes, 50k-ton pieces of medal suspended 50 ft off the ground while your fitting it to a structure. The best part is when you turn over a new, functioning structure or piece of gear and you can pinpoint all of the critical pieces that you put there, from raw plate steel and prefabbed I-beams through to a new, working system. (built A giant set of ESP's for their coker unit, it was recently on the news in an explosion).
 

If you want the primal feeling of being a man, i can't recommend Ironwork enough. Electrical is fun too but I've only dealt with up to 4160 and some random 400Hz stuff. Essentially all the jobs I've ever had would be considered, if not unsafe, then dangerous, but it's hard to maintain perspective when it's all you've known for your adult life. Pretty much, I can't push enough how incredibly rewarding a lot of this 'blue collar' stuff can be. I've always been a bit odd though.
 

Sorry, doing high voltage lineman stuff was on my bucket list, but I got an engineering degree now so it's probably something I'll never end up doing at this point. In my mind it is the combination of all of my favorite parts of various jobs I've held, and I get a little schoolboy thinking about how awesome it would be.

TheGurw 8y ago

I agree, I'm actually about to start my welding apprenticeship with the local IW union in the next couple months. Walking the steel 60 feet off the ground on a 40 foot tether always sounded fun to me. Plus shooting plasma at metal is just fun to begin with.

Blue collar work is the only work I enjoy. Tried engineering (electrical and mechanical), couldn't stand sitting at a desk for 10 hours a day.

kaspell 8y ago

It's a mixed bag. I was looking for a career where i wouldn't be living in pain at 50 or so, and it turned out to be a lot different than i expected, but i was committed so i had to see it through. Now i get to do some really cool shit but there is a lot of desk sitting. Everything has a cost.

TheGurw 8y ago

Make sure you have a good chair and you use it properly or you'll be in just as much pain.

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trumpi 8y ago

Dude don't file that bug report he suggesting. It is free advertising! :)

kick6 8y ago

as soon as they dropped the "safe space" bomb, you were informed of the exact brand of lunacy you were dealing with.

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razor5151-returns 8y ago

What does "safe space" mean, exactly? I've been hearing it lot and so far i've read only the SJW meaning of it.

Can someone tell me the actual meaning?

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xwm 8y ago

Look up at /u/gaylubeoil 's picture. That's pretty accurate.

Generally it is a 'place' that stops 'triggering' behaviors/language. Aka a load of babying these 'strong independent women who don't need no man' so their feelz don't get hurt.

Heisenberg2308 8y ago

When you cut out a mans tongue, you aren't proving him a liar...rather, you fear what he might say

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Does the "thought police" aspect of what you're doing trouble you? I don't "support" any sub on Reddit. I read some, I comment on a few.

It doesn't trouble us at all, we have a duty to protect our users and maintain the safe space. Bye.

It's actually startling just how close to some authoritarian dystopian novel this reads.

cdnz0mbie 8y ago

Right, instead of "a safe space" he chose to use "the safe space". Creepy.

The_F_B_I 8y ago

It's a fucking website, not a police state

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Which is why it is odd they sound so much like a police state.

rmtsukuru 8y ago

It's really not. What I find creepy is that no one on this sub seems to understand the rationale for maintaining a "safe space", and instead (so it seems) assumes that saying anything, no matter how awful, is fine in any arbitrary online context.

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It is always better in all circumstances for an individual to adjust their psychology as to be able to ignore and tolerate awful things being said then it is to try and tone police and censor the entire internet. And that's not even the situation we're dealing with. We're talking about a sub preemptively banning people that have never posted to their sub to preserve "the safe space". That's pretty fucked up.

rmtsukuru 8y ago

That may be true for the entire Internet, but individual online communities can enforce their own standards, of which comfort and/or safety are valid metrics that individuals might want to maintain. I'm in agreement with you on the fact that the ban was carried out towards someone who never even posted, that's ridiculous. But I feel like most of this post's commenters assume that the mod's actions would be unethical even if OP had posted something inflammatory/discordant with the sub's standards, which I disagree with.

sweetleef 8y ago

What I find creepy is that no one on this sub seems to understand the rationale for maintaining a "safe space"

The obvious "rationale" is that "safe space" is the latest in a string of PC buzzwords to signal "opinions disagreeing with PC dogma are prohibited".

Since you consider yourself superior and enlightened, tell us: what is the rationale we all fail to see?

rmtsukuru 8y ago

To make people feel comfortable and, uh, safe? If a community wants to enforce standards of behavior in order to prevent harassment, hate speech, etc., that's their prerogative. It doesn't matter what's PC and what's not, if a number of members of a community are uncomfortable with certain behaviors/communications (e.g. rape jokes), the community has a legitimate claim to self-censor in the interest of making people feel safe.

I'm not saying the OP's ban was warranted (since he never even posted on the relevant sub) or that their TRP association necessarily merits such punishment (even though I don't agree with a lot of TRP philosophy), but I find it odd that everyone is immediately dismissing the mod's goals as some sort of Orwellian conspiracy instead of just, you know, trying to look out for people in their community.

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sweetleef 8y ago

To make people feel comfortable and, uh, safe?

You attack and label an entire sub as "creepy" and incapable of understanding what you claim to understand, namely, the "rationale" for a "safe space".

Then, when asked to define this profound "rationale", you respond with an inane tautology? The rationale for a "safe space" is to make people feel safe? That's what makes TRP "creepy"? That's the best you can come up with?

As to your unrelated rant that this policy is simply "looking out for their community" - the problem is that their definition of "protect" is "silence whatever we disagree with, wherever it is expressed". Not only is expression of non-approved ideas banned, but they are now silencing people for even having potentially been exposed to those ideas elsewhere.

This is a site-wide campaign, and the effect is pervasive. The message is that you must hold approved beliefs, and you must not even question those beliefs, or we will prevent your participation and expression altogether.

This is not about protecting screeching SJWs from the horror of bad jokes, it's about banning ideas they disagree with.

KurrKurr 8y ago

Alert! "Safe space" encountered. Disengage. SJW infested "content" ahead...

vengefully_yours 8y ago

Hahaha... Hate sub. Hilarious. They have a very interesting mix of projection and hypocrisy. Because we speak freely, don't bow to any ideology as a whole (some are religious, meh, someday...) and don't blindly accept the PC feminized version of reality, they attack us, claim we hate someone or something, ban us without merit, try very hard to dox us, and utilize the Streisand Effect to bolster our subscribers by calling us the worst.

Yes, that is humorous to me. It's like the screaming violence prone harpies at anything that resembles that might be pro male. If it's not pro women it's anti women! Sounds a hell of a lot like "if it's not giving glory to my particular invisible entity/god, then it's satanic/heretical and must be destroyed!"

Feminism, nothing more than a girl cult. Religion of peace. Feminism is for equality. Sure thing. If they must resort to bans they are doing the christian tactic of turning off comments on YouTube, or sticking fingers in their ears singing lalalala I can't hear you.

ont_anon 8y ago

I just got banned from the exact same group! Someone posted that they were dumped because their SO's friends/family didn't like that they weren't white.

I responded in support, saying that the same thing happened to me years ago. Actually, here's the post that got me banned:

Same thing happened to me years ago. I'm white but my gf at the time is Korean. Even though we had a great relationship her parents HATED that I wasn't Korean. They were nice to my face, although her mother would sometimes make snide remarks around me, but would they would really trash talk me/caucasians behind my back.

Eventually the pressure got to be too much for her and she broke up with me because of it.

wtf?!

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ShepardfucksEVERYONE 8y ago

Out of curiosity, what conclusion would you come to if someone had no enemies?

tyeunbroken 8y ago

He who has nothing to fight for, doesn't have enemies.

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ShepardfucksEVERYONE 8y ago

Fair enough. Let me throw this at you: I don't have any real enemies, but my unorthodox opinions are rarely voiced. I don't see why I should go around giving people my beliefs on a platter to judge me by. I find it more beneficial to withhold information until it is useful.

I also get easily flustered when confronted with a lot of attention of the negative sort, but Im working on that, it's not important, just adding a bit more context.

I don't think you have to wear your ideas on your sleeve and demand the attention of others to make them meaningful.

Not like, trying to be "omg I'm speshul", just curious about this whole enemies thing.

thrwawy_one 8y ago

Just like Paul Graham says: The only things you can get in trouble for saying are things that have the potential to be true. Otherwise, it wouldn't stir up a ruckus.

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zeus450 8y ago

Dude she's a mod of a socialism sub, racism sub, the black lady sub, and other bullshit like that. Fuck her.

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TominatorXX 8y ago

Oh, see, I didn't realize. I didn't look her up.

I thought you could intelligently discuss censorship with a mod and say, "look you're discriminating against me for what you think I think. Isn't that a little messed up?"

my_redpill_account 8y ago

I noticed every SJW/Feminist whatever does the whole "tell you what you're thinking" thing and it's hilarious.

They find a negative meaning behind everything and really are the only ones finding shit wrong with normal things people do, it really gets me wondering, who is the real racist (or whatever) here? Never thought about something being racist until they mentioned it being racist.

zeus450 8y ago

Not with these people bro. They think they're exceptions to rules because "patriarchy". They're not accountable for their actions so they're allowed to do whatever they want without repercussions. They use any tactic to "win" an argument, which is often just lying to get whatever they want. They're allowed to exist because a large number of betas follow them and believe doing so will get them laid. People like to say TRP is extreme? We have nothing on those motherfuckers.

toothbrush_your_anus 8y ago

I thought you could intelligently discuss censorship with a mod

are you new to the internet?

glottony 8y ago

Yeah, mods do that. ABCDesis rooted through my history to find that I was subscribed to mensrights, pulled out some of my comments and banned me. FML now I'll never be a wannabe Indian-American.

systemshock869 8y ago

we have a duty to protect our users and maintain the safe space. Bye.

They have been invading this community and making it unsafe for our community members

What a bunch of fucking idiots. Being banned from a group of assholes online is not technically a big deal. What's scary is that there are people out there that think like this who can actually influence public policy and do.. We're becoming a nation of worthless pussies, maybe we do need the government to spoon feed us and wipe our asses.

nicethingyoucanthave 8y ago

Yeah. /r/offmychest has been an SRS sub for a while: https://archive.is/KKSaB

The alternative is /r/TrueOffMyChest

There's also /r/confessions

I'm not vouching for either one. Just saying they exist.

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puppetmstr 8y ago

WTF dude you gave a perfect description of me

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Big_ol_Bro 8y ago

I want my mind to accept just how worthless their opinions are, but the fact that they are strong arming their views outweighs their pathetic existence.

I'm full on triggered.

throwaway-aa2 8y ago

right... I currently struggle with this too...

but... the long (and hard solution) is to self improve, and once you improve to a comfortable point (to where you're achieving what you would call success relative to most men), then you try to spark a change in the men closest to you to improve.

I feel like my interactions with people in general has sort of signaled this coming where words and conversation don't mean shit.

Everyone has an opinion... everyone has "feelings"... and all of those people are using veiled power and pseudo-logic to have their opinions & feelings beat others... and even though our opinion may be more valid, we're no different from another competing opinion, except ours is an actual threat to other people's opinions. So I don't think we're at the point where discussion is going to matter.

But what will matter, is changing our men so that females like this don't get any chance in terms of a valuable male, at ALL. That's the way this ship eventually turns around... the change has to start from the inside, and emanate outwards. Feminism took ahold through decades of hard work & indoctrination... now we must reverse that through sheer diligence and dedication.

BrajScience 8y ago

GLO again breaks it down big time. Never in my life have I witnessed such deductive reasoning and brilliance. A true braj just helping out his bros.

Hats off to GLO!

yesidoes 8y ago

Regardless of her weight, race, or gender the mod is clearly a victim.

Arguing with any victim, if you are viewed as the oppressor, is never going to work. The victim already has mental barriers blocking any logical discourse.

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I was talking with one of my employees about this the other day. If you don't communicate consistently, all of the sudden someone creates a narrative in their head as to what's going on.

When that narrative inevitably turns into how they're a victim (it always does), you'd be better be there first before they decide it's you who's oppressing them.

Bobwayne17 8y ago

Wow, that profile is literally exactly me. How ironic. I just graduated last weekend, one of the happiest moments of my life. What's your Twitter? I would love to follow you.

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Nebulose11 8y ago

Any redpiller who also posts to r/fatpeoplehate has been banned from offmychest for a while now.

They autoban for posting to more than just this sub. They are unable to handle opposing viewpoints. Anything that could trigger them can not be tolerated.

evoblade 8y ago

The whole "triggering" thing blows my mind. Real life doesn't care about your triggers. If you can't tolerate upsetting ideas, you are gonna have a hard time with life.

xwm 8y ago

Any redpiller who also posts to r/fatpeoplehate has been banned from offmychest for a while now.

Ah that explains it. I posted a few weeks back how BMI is mostly useless for determining overweight, got downvoted to oblivion, and when I said that I'm considered overweight on BMI and all of my friends refuse to believe it (to them it's hilarious because I'm a skinny motherfucker who is trying to gain weight), they banned me from /r/fatpeoplehate saying that I needed to pic verify. Like I need to validate myself to strangers on the internet. It was so stupid it was funny.

Three days later random /r/offmychest ban.

k0ndomo 8y ago

I can understand this one though, most people who claim that the BMI system is broken are.. overweight. Only bodybuilders and really fit people are an exception most of the time.

xwm 8y ago

I've been weight lifting for about 8 months now and I'm right at the threshold to overweight with about 18% body fat. I am by no means a weight lifter. My 6'5" friend who lifts with me (has only been lifting for 4 months) is a fucking stick and he's 3 pounds shy of it.

thedude122487 8y ago

Who exactly is it that TRP hates?

denart4 8y ago

I have been here for a long time and I still have to find out.

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"The red pill is the radical notion that women are people."

jb_trp 8y ago

It's difficult to call it a hate group with all the love I've been making since swallowing TRP...

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This sub was rated as the most supportive in some recent survey here on reddit.

thedude122487 8y ago

I assume they're talking about slut-shaming, which is really nothing more than people getting up in arms about political incorrectness. "Hating sluts" implies that we want them to disppear. We don't - we love them because we can spin them as plates. They are a fact of life and they're never going away (not that we want them to). We just don't want to be in LTR's with them. And that infuriates a lot of women because it contradicts the feminist imperative to empower women.

I think people who call it a hategroup honestly do not understand it. The fact that /r/redpillwomen exists is also proof. RedPillWomen are just a bunch of women who approached TRP with an open mind and said, "Yeah, that's accurate." If TRP is a hategroup, then RedPillWomen would be analagous to some black people forming a chapter of the KKK. I don't think so.

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I assume they're talking about slut-shaming

They're talking about Misogyny. They say we hate women. Keep in mind their claims don't have to be true or even make sense. All they have to do is keep repeating it over and over and tell anybody who tries to take a look for themselves that they're no longer part of the respectable members of the human race. That is why they'll fail. Humans have a morbid curiosity about anything taboo or forbidden. The stats of many manosphere sites surge after public denouncements made by SJWs. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the stats here do the some after heavy handed banning in other subreddits.

sushisection 8y ago

Shhhh I don't think they know about trpwomen. That would implode the echo chamber

xwm 8y ago

No no no, those poor women are just confused and manipulated souls who need to be enlightened to the ways of their rapists and abusers. /s

Think rescue party, but they're rescuing them from being happy/content.

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ChadThunderdick 8y ago

Who are redpillers supposed to hate?

fuck_da_haes 8y ago

Actually this is a good thing, lets take it chronologically

at the beginning we were laughed at, "hey look, bunch of neckbeards hating on women, hahaha, they are pathetic lol", yep, shaming
then the hate came, "I have never ever in my life saw such a vile bunch of a hate group, even the KKK is disgusted by them! Blergh, stay away from terpers and doxx them!!", after this strategy proved inefficient (shaming+hate)
they moved to "discussion" and /r/purplepill+debate has been born, again to no avail, so now we got
censorship in other subs via being banned by default

I just wonder what is gonna be another step. Will admins finally cave to SJWs and ban us? Will they shadowban whole user base from rest of the reddit? Will thye accept us as the part of the world? Heh, I smiled on last one ... never gonna happen, and that's good, world needs betas to build empires for us.

Planner_Hammish 8y ago

Eagerly awaiting my ban from that sub...

caesarfecit 8y ago

Wow, it's like they're doing a bit called "power tripping Internet moderator". Honestly, I would have trolled the shit out of them after the first bullshit reply and walked away.

You only need to get banned from one subreddit to realize how silly it is to get mad about Reddit bullshit. Mine was r/askhistorians. I got into a fight with some flaired commenters who buttsore my post went to the top while they disagreed over pedantic bullshit. The mods circled the wagons around the buttsore commenter while I got cross-posted to r/badhistory and r/subredditdrama for daring to successfully defend my work. Then the mods banned me (after I made them undelete my post) because I "plagiarized Wikipedia" and their entire basis for it was the formatting of my sources.

I look back on that, and the question I have for my past self is:

why was I so naive that I expected maturity and reasonableness from such people? And why should I give one shit what tools think?

TL:DR: don't throw pearls before swine and don't bother trying to reason with the unreasonable. They've already lost the argument on its merits and if you take them seriously, you lose precious minutes of your life you'll never get back and they don't deserve.

the_red_scimitar 8y ago

You are dealing with the entitled and intentionally ignorant. Willful ignorance is pretty much THE trait of the type of internet troll who doesn't believe they are a troll.

There is NO rational argument that will sway the willfully ignorant. They have made a decision to eschew logic or reason in favor of a belief system, and it is like dealing with a religious zealot/fanatic.

Your best course of action is to treat them like a bad plate: next and move on.

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Their subscribers would start to dwindle and they'd lose power.

the_red_scimitar 8y ago

Folks, do not validate them by visiting them - at all. Next and move on.

blue_27 8y ago

I wonder how many other subs I'm banned from, that I've also never heard of.

DocRedPill 8y ago

No shit. Have an alt for TRP if you're a regular reddit user.

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xray777 8y ago

I've apparently been pre-banned. I have no option to comment or post to the sub. I never even got a notice.

My alt. account has no such problems and it has never been there before (or here).

BlindNowhereMan 8y ago

I got banned to.. for telling a guy "his wife knows what she is doing and is being manipulative" the ban ce yesterday after I posted a comment here. I made the comment in r/off my chest a few weeks ago..

1independentmale 8y ago

So I'm late to the party and will probably get shit on for this, but: Who here really cares if you're banned? I mean, really. You can make another account in seconds.

I have a Red Pill account and another for everything else. On my everything else account, they welcome me with open arms. Even agree with a lot of what I have to say, which is no different than what I say here with the exception that I clean up my language and talk like a gentleman. They love Red Pill truths when you feed them with a dash of sugar.

jeffklol 8y ago

Who cares? That's like saying "You're banned from my house!" We've never been to their house, don't know where they live, never cared to. I've never even heard of this sub before, don't care, and don't ever plan on going there. It's some obscure sub where the jackass mods make themselves feel good by trying to exert their power. But....they can't find anyone in their own sub to ban so they start going for random people. Just ignore them, attention is exactly why they're reaching out. Or just make a subreddit of your own and ban them from it. It has about the same effect.

95wave 8y ago

If you really want to go on shitty subs like that then just make an alt, for fucks sake

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I was banned from commenting on ELI5 the other day and I haven't made a post or comment there in months.

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I was banned by the same mod earlier this week. In fact, it was almost the exact same circumstance as you, just a different subreddit. A reddit search revealed that /r/offmychest has done this many times. /u/IrbyTremor is also a mod on /r/againstmensrights/, /r/MRMorWhiteRights/, /r/redpillfeminism/ + more. My best guess is that she is an overweight, self-victimizing women who abuses what little power she has against the people who supposedly abuse her. The other mods on /r/offmychest all moderate like (and often the same) subreddits. No surprise there is a /r/TrueOffMyChest/ to circumvent the reverse racist/sexist mods.

skoobled 8y ago

The phrase "safe space" makes me think of padded cells in a lunatic asylum

xwm 8y ago

Hard to get triggered in a straight jacket, all I'm saying.

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raceAround126 8y ago

I have just been banned from the same sub. I have never posted nor looked there...

Is this what fascism feels like? I bet the mod of r/offmychest is a closet fascist. May he/she/it doesn't realize it, but they are...

Darkone06 8y ago

I just had a similar exchange:

It made ny blood boil.

you have been banned from posting to /r/offmychest: Off My Chest | What you've been holding in for too long.

Why? What is the reasoning?

theredpill continues to invade this and other subreddits, spreading their hateful messages. We are automatically banning any supporter of this hate group. If you received a ban notice, you must have posted, commented, or voted in this subreddit sometime, anytime, in the past, as recorded by Reddit. Everyone else does not get the ban notice. If you do not support theredpill, we are willing to discuss and unban.

So somehow, you banning me before I have commited any act of disobidence in your subreddit isnt hateful. Yes I lurk and reply in the red pill, but where has one of my coments been hateful? Give me an example of me "spreading their hateful message." Your being hateful and ignorant by banning me before I have commited an act under your jurisdiction, /r/offmychest . Your just a nazi who would rather remove those he sees unfit or unequal from his life, before they have commited a crime. Your kind makes me sick.

lol. Bans are easily reversible and you've immediately Godwinned the discussion as if this is remotely comparable to genocide. If there's any analogy to be made, the bot is simply a bouncer making sure you won't cause trouble in here, and all you have to do is answer a simple question: do you support the hate group or not?

I will always act with the strongest of convictions towards censorship of any kind. For that path leads to the dark side. That is a loaded question. I do not support any hate groups. Do I support the red pill? The awnser would be yes. I just find it funny how your sidebar reads: This is a safe space for people of any and all backgrounds. Oppressive attitudes and language will not be tolerated. Yet you find it justified to oppress my opinion, just because you disagree with my convictions and beliefs before I have made any offense towards you. The analogy of a bouncer is flawed since im not seeking entry into your establishment nor have I acted agaisnt it while confine to its territory. Instead you have choosen to go on a manhunt against those who you deam unworthy and taken premtive strike against them.

We didn't ask you for your opinions on censorship, our protocols or analogies. We asked if you supported them or not. Its a simple question and you've answered it by this point. Do not contact us again

Fuck you, your the one that contacted me ! To hell with you.

TominatorXX 8y ago

I find the question "do you support x subreddit" highly offensive. It's like McCarthyism or burning someone because you think they might be a witch.

sushisection 8y ago

They have become the very thing they are trying to do away with.

Darkone06 8y ago

Yeah me too, which is why I replied the way I did.

That is a loaded question. I do not support any hate groups. Do I support the red pill? The awnser would be yes.

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ohsweetword 8y ago

It's been that way for years.

I've been meaning to write an article related to how being a narcissist has helped me hide my real thoughts and emotions.

The redpill isn't /r/atheism though. It isn't something where neckbeards go shouting about it on other subreddits.

You need to keep your ideals and beliefs to yourself and any loyal male friends you may have. Act on them when you can and take what power you can.

beerleader 8y ago

What can we do?

Why not just create an alternate off my chest where people can share their problems without discriminating them?

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On Mapporn because im a weird guy.

Get into a discussion about state required maternity and paternity leave.

Tell people I disagree with the notion that the state should force people to pay for other peoples "quality bonding time" Get called a bigot and an idiot for not recognizing the obvious social benefits of the system. Tell them that it is immoral to steal from someone because you believe its "better" than not.

Finally someone brings up I frequent this sub....as if that's some sort of indication that my stance has no merit. Straw-manning like crazy.

beginner_ 8y ago

Who cares if you get banned in some sub? Starting an argument with that mod was bitchy and a waste of your time and validation to the mod. just make a new account and use that to post in that sub and never on red pill. problem solved. This is recommended anyway due to doxxing.

ChooseWisely72 8y ago

Woo hoo! Just got banned and never posted there. Wouldn't want to post to a thought police subreddit anyway.

RedVillain 8y ago

I recommend using an alt account.

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yyotambien 8y ago

My main account was banned from this sub even though all my previous comments and posts followed the rules, added to the conversation, or were supportive, and I myself follow a large portion of the concepts here (although more so RPW and some MRP). Still, because I made, what I thought was, a light-hearted funny joke comment one day I was immediately banned and denied any appeal, telling me that I had only 1 post, and therefore was just insulting to the community and I was literally told to "Fuck off" by the mod that banned me. Mind you I had had at least weekly or more previous posts in the community for over a year and a half, but the mod just 'decided' I was new and was accordingly banned.

There is hypocrisy rampant on reddit. Isn't the whole point of forums to have open discussions to maybe learn a few things, not to just ban people because they say something you maybe don't agree with?

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If you post anything other than the party line in several forums that don't like TRP.

The mods will search your history, and subs and ban you based on that.

Goldfulgore 8y ago

I don't know what's the issue here. Why does TRP even care about this? All subs restrict freedom of speech. Even TRP. It's just that they do it right off the bat. Big deal. Use a throwaway account.

I thought everyone had realised by now that we are the outcasts of reddit.

ShitfacedBatman 8y ago

"thought police" mods are thriving on Reddit

It sucks, BUT, there are a few solutions. Don't use Reddit for anything other than TRP, or use Reddit for stuff like r/EarthPorn. Get more than 1 user handle going. Or, find forums outside of Reddit. There is much more to "The Manosphere" than what exists on Reddit. Believe it or not, there really are a lot of people who don't use Reddit and even HATE Reddit because it's way too liberal and way too feminist.

One of the things that will happen to you, I would think over time anyway, is that there is no more "debate" type of shit going on. You're not going to debate feminists, you're not going to be in discussions about fat acceptance, and so on and so forth. Or if in the event you do, you'll actually be able to let comment threads lie where you left them by simply saying, "Well, agree to disagree," when you're done. Then let your adversaries light themselves on fire in protest or whatever it is they do when they want to continue debating after you're done.

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TheLolomancer 8y ago

Popped in to check it out, got the ban message as well. I think they just script it so anyone who's subbed here gets banned there, checking you on visit. SJW hypocrisy at its finest.

NiftyDolphin 8y ago

I got banned this morning. I just shrugged and figured it was some SJW'n.

Why are reddit politics so vicious? Because the stakes are so small.

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redpilldiscourse 8y ago

They have everything to lose.

What exactly are they losing, however?

How exactly are they benefiting from perpetuating these lies?

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Sailor's Law of Female Journalism: The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking. This doesn't just apply to journalists anymore. The SJWs have a vested interest in keeping the social values that give them power.

tyeunbroken 8y ago

That explains Jessica Valenti's articles in the Guardian. It used to be such a good read.

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They get a pavlovian release of dopamine. Other than that nothing.

No different from masterbation, really. Except after you cum you start thinking clearly again.

IllimitableMan 8y ago

No different from masterbation, really. Except after you cum you start thinking clearly again.

The Japanese came up with a word to describe this exact phenomenon: Kenjataimu.

https://i.imgur.com/47q9CYv.png

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Redpillc0re 8y ago

get away from these idiots. Why are you arguing with imbeciles, you want to be one of them? Go read a random book from someone with actual brains. Mentally screw them and never talk to these toxic ppl.

kalstate 8y ago

Hmmm. If the proper nouns were removed from this page, I'd think I was in /offmychest.

[deleted] 8y ago

Surprised I haven't been banned a million times in as many places.

Masonjarteadrinker2 8y ago

Eh just shrug it off, no point in giving a fuck.

Falc0n7 8y ago

I got banned from there for posting in r/FPH.
I never even went to r/OMC before though

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BoogersAreTasty 8y ago

I like how they use the phrase "safe space".

I can almost hear them whining, "Protect me from the bad words, mommy."

Ojisan1 8y ago

Mommy is a patriarchal term used to oppress something something.

MazeMouse 8y ago

So basically reverse brigading?

One_friendship_plz 8y ago

Next up is an app that's 200,000 lines of code that automatically lists everyones name in this subreddit and bans them.

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GayLordShitLord 8y ago

I "like" how not being a complacent doormat constitutes hatered.

thenarrrowpath 8y ago

That's why our founders fought a War and passed a First Amendment.

That's what I thought. But the 1st amendment only protects us from governmental tyranny, not societal tyranny.

Roosh touches on this; he describes it as people "trying to take your bread". I understand your point about supporting Nazi's free speech rights, I've said something similar about the West Burro Baptist Church, yet......

What these SJW's don't understand is the oppression of the minority. The irony is; they would support the Civil Rights movement which is a great demonstration of a minority class rising up against the oppression of the majority, yet they (in todays world) are the majority oppressing us (RP) the minority. Now in no way are we on the same level as the Civil Rights movement, but it goes to show you that unpopular thoughts or actions will subject you to societal abuse (i.e. being doxed, exposed to lose your job, evicted from your home, denial of business, and complete alienation from your community IRL or online)

xwm 8y ago

He just compared the red pill to Martin Luther King Jr.! Everyone ban him quick! /s

newuser775 8y ago

These are idiot yes men youre dealing with. They dont know why they do things.

The real idiocy comes from the ones who truly dislike what trp spreads. It would be much wiser to attempt to police the sub covertly. With the stance taken now people will just hide the fact they frequent here. If they even eventually remove the sub, guarenteed at least five more will pop up overnight.

They are people very inexperienced with containment.

sailorJery 8y ago

Ha, just checked and I'm banned as well. Good times.

balalasaurus 8y ago

Has no-one bothered to tell them that we don't actually hate over here? Not that I care really. But if you're going to ban someone for certain reasons, the least you could do is your own due diligence to to justify said reasons.

Then again, they are SJWs/thought police for a reason I guess...

yummyluckycharms 8y ago

Congrats - if you've never been banned, then that means you weren't doing something right.

I"ve been banned from offmychest, history, and one other reddit whose name seems to be escaping from me right now. What this does allow for is that it lets you know which subs actually honest discourse, and which ones are infested by SJW.

Also, why do you care if you were banned. Karma is meaningless, and chances are that if a sub does become SJW influenced, its on the way down to join digg in the near future

B_Polar 8y ago

Why is everyone getting all butthurt? Seriously there was a thread like two days ago talking about how the red pill was not a democracy and we can ban whoever we want. Stfu, stop playing the victim like anybody owes you anything or did we forget that we aren't shit and totally disposable. Jesus F

dgillz 8y ago

This is exactly what happened to me 2 days ago. I asked (presumably her) what evidence she had that TRP people were "invading her community" and she declined to offer any evidence.

Fuck them.

RichieFinn 8y ago

why are any of you even lurking on offmychest anyways? doesnt make sense to me....

exuals 8y ago

Posting first time on TRP to see if it is autoban, ignore.

moose_war 8y ago

I have to always double check my comments on every subreddit because I always get shadow banned or shadow deleted for having an opinion that goes against the mainstream.

Mouthpiece 8y ago

It sounds like the mods in our group need to start banning the mods of /r/offmychest

Clearly, they are opposed to a male-positive agenda. That kind of discrimination cannot be tolerated in a male-safe space.

Off with their heads.

xwm 8y ago

Why ban them? We have no fear of what they have to say, as truth wins all logical arguments. If they do try to post garbage in here, we'll have good examples to hold out and laugh at.

flyingwolf 8y ago

Nah, redpill doesn't ban folks for the most part. Let them talk, the fastest way to expose an idiot is to let them speak.

prisonersandpriests 8y ago

a male-safe space.

No, no. THE male-safe space.

jmg83 8y ago

I got one of these yesterday. I don't even remember posting to that sub.

wtf_hell 8y ago

You probably haven't, despite their claims.

Jammku 8y ago

It's like mods of subreddits actually believe they can legitly "ban" people from things when it takes 5 seconds to make a new account and post whatever the fuck you want.

_VicBoss 8y ago

Heh, that subreddit's just a bunch of made up stories for creative, dramatic youth to pretend they're experiencing something other than first world problems. No loss, bub.

ForensicFungineer 8y ago

/u/theyellowrose from /r/offmychest banned me as well, for posting on /r/TheRedPill that my grandfather supported a large family on an enlisted mans salary in the army, while my money doesn't go nearly as far today.

I asked her to ban me from the rest of the subs that she moderates, and she declined. I like to think that she had a moment of clarity and realized that banning middle of the road types accomplishes nothing more than pushing the masses away from her point of view.

Surf_Or_Die 8y ago

Who gives a shit? Create another account with which you never visit trp. Our constitutional rights are guaranteed in public spaces and dealings with the government. Private business doesn't have to allow free speech.

TheeRyanGrey 8y ago

This shouldn't be shocking my friend. Reddit is the epicenter of modern society. The fascist, scared for their lives left doing to their best to finally seize power under the guise of equality

Drenmar 8y ago

offmychest is run by fat sjw tumblrinettes and faggots. If you post in fatpeoplehate you'll also get banned from offmychest. They can't handle the truth bombs in their 'safe space'.

Kalepsis 8y ago

Anyone who thinks this is a "hate subreddit" has never actually read anything in here. I've seen so much worse things coming from /r/offmychest than this sub.

Do they automatically ban everyone who posts in twoX as well? That's a male hate-group.

No? Then I guess their mods are just huge hypocrites. A "duty to maintain a safe space" is just code for "a responsibility to ban anyone who disagrees with our viewpoint from speaking".

[deleted] 8y ago

/r/offmychest banned me long ago before this sub existed. Its ran by black feminist extremist i think.

xwm 8y ago

I got banned from /r/offmychest too. I sent a confused message asking why as I'd never even viewed the sub. I got no replies, I assumed it was cause I post here.

It really shows their pathetic side that they need waste hours to go down a user list to a different sub, many of whose member have never been and have no desire to visit theirs. Makes me feel a little sad for them that their lives are that empty.

Ojisan1 8y ago

Makes me feel a little sad for them that their lives are that empty.

And that they are so fearful of people that have different opinions. And that they feel like covering their ears will make other opinions disappear. The real world is not a "safe space" we could be hit by an asteroid tomorrow, for all we know, and go the way of the dinosaurs.

206432 8y ago

So you tell me they get to decide what I should think. This has nothing to do with supporting any group. They are just being retarded.

Tumblruu_Mucho 8y ago

offmychest is an SJW sub like subredditdrama. Not very surprised they ban people for no valid reasons.

through_a_ways 8y ago

I was banned from /r/science with no reason given, just out of the blue one day. Cemented my belief in the prevalence of the liberal circlejerk in modern science.

PedroIsWatching 8y ago

The offmychest mods have been doing this to anyone on the FatPeopleHate subreddit as well.

Feels before reals. Fat people are beautiful and women hate assholes.

MorePancakes 8y ago

Just realized I'm banned too. I got no warning. I have never posted their and subbed to trp and fatpeoplehate

derkonigistnackt 8y ago

Who cares, they are a bunch of pansies anyways

nzgs 8y ago

Reddit is one of the most far-left mainstream sites on the internet. Censorship and political correctness has been a tool of the Left for more than 100 years. Why does any of this surprise you? I only use reddit for TRP, and would welcome any move away from reddit.

PlanB_pedofile 8y ago

Just stay away from /offmychest. The group is a whine and bitching forum looking for feel good validation.

Make a beta account for those types of subs.

LD_in_MT 8y ago

TominatorXX, basically you won, on an intellectual level.

SlappaDaBayssMon 8y ago

That sub is merely a place where whiners go when they know even their own friends don't want to deal with their shitty out look on life. You don't want to have anything to do with that place.

UlyssesElias 8y ago

People, families, groups, organisations or subs that shut down free speech ought to be loudly condemned. Period.

[deleted] 8y ago

This is so petty. Why are you engaging with this moron? Let them be idiots, its next to impossible to reason with them.

TRPLeftist 8y ago

re: Banned? from IrbyTremor[M] via /r/offmychest/ sent 3 days ago TRP isn't hateful. Talk about a warped perspective....wow Or do you all not have the faintest clue how you sound to people outside of TRP, much less any woman reading it? You're the Neo nazis of gender. If you didn't know.

Just got this

a-orzie 8y ago

Hahahah

Wow they are delusional.

I don't even care, they are digging their own grave with all this shit, they'll be sorry in the future when the absurdity of their actions go mainstream and they are censored into complete silence.

zenkibudo 8y ago

Such an event validates /r/TheRedPill/, imo.

IVIaskerade 8y ago

Don't bother talking to Irby, by the way. She's a psychopath who gets off on the feeling of power that modding subreddits gives her (I think it's a her at the moment).

prodigyx 8y ago

You just wasted a whole bunch of your time arguing with an idiot, then you just wasted a bunch of our time making a post about it. Looks like you came out on the losing side of this one.

Nebulose11 8y ago

I enjoyed the read. Idiots are nothing less than entertainment.

sushisection 8y ago

Funny because you just wasted your time writing a post about a guy wasting time writing a post about wasting time arguing with an idiot.

Looks like.. I came out on the losing side of this one?

prisonersandpriests 8y ago

That's kind of what I'm seeing. I understand expending excess energy for a whole lot of really great reasons. Arguing with a moron is not one of those, and just becomes an exercise in futility.

Tarnsman4Life 8y ago

Old news, I was banned from Offmychest because I commented on the post about this in R/censorship about a month ago. They are becoming the new SRS.

Kill_Your_Ego 8y ago

I had a comment I made get linked to from SRD and over the next five hours my karma dropped by 500 points. As they brigaded my posts and down voted them all. I'm not sure why the SRS/SRD crazies can brigade but no one else. I honestly found the entire thing hilarious. I guess they could not allow my red pill comments in the blue pill sub to have a +10.

Might cause some of the hate mongers to lose their power.

Tarnsman4Life 8y ago

I do wonder this aloud; all of the "non PC" subs, be it pro gun subs, libertarian subs, or the red pill have to post a big long "its not OK to brigade" every time there is even an accusation yet SRS, 2X, Feminism, etc brigade every single day.

sushisection 8y ago

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It's all these people can do in life. Dopamine hits when that mouse clicks the downvote. "Oh yeah take that fucker". They live a sad reality where they only experience joy by shaming others for expressing their thoughts, and presumably by eating a lot of chocolate cake.

It's like Alan Moore's Norsefire party, but ran by ultra leftist land whales instead of Christian fascists.

razor5151-returns 8y ago

What are the admins doing? Aren't they supposed to prevent things like this from happening?

MyDaughtersOrgasm 8y ago

All their mods except for 1 are mods in at least 1 feminist subreddit and perhaps even more hilarious, theyre all mods in at least 1 black-only sub. I didn't realize being a gay black feminist was so common on reddit...

rygar_the_red 8y ago

It's not. They are totally the minority.

Okay, that was my dad joke of the day. I'll be at the gym if anybody needs me LOL.

[deleted] 8y ago

well people like that have no use in the real world hence why they have the time to become mods on reddit

Kill_Your_Ego 8y ago

They better turn into a trans otherkin quick or they are going to lose the oppression olympics.

Overkillengine 8y ago

They'll have to also identify as mayonnaise if they want to win the gold though.

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Kendjo 8y ago

This is madness. Reddit is hitting a new low.

Jaereth 8y ago

While this is asinine, you gave her the power, if only for the duration of your conversation.

Because really, in actuality, who gets to post what on what internet message board is pretty inconsequential. I think the correct response here would be to ignore it. (In the future, I realize you were just curious about it)

So now we all know they are pro-actively banning RP members at /offmychest. Don't respond to it, don't ask questions, don't go stir up stuff over there. Just ignore it as the inconsequential event it is, and go about your day.

By responding in the least, you are giving it power. The thing about these people is they embrace this idiocy because they literally don't have anything better going on in their lives. While you look at it as asking a simple string of questions about the ban, they can all now "huehuehue we totally banned him and he was mad. Oh man we got him good".

Just ignore them like you would any lippy bratty child.

cxj 8y ago

It doesn't trouble us at all, we have a duty to protect our users and maintain the safe space.

LMAO, protect the fragile users from ideas they might not like! Gays and women etc do not need to be protected by PC faggot white knights

JamesSkepp 8y ago

Apparently they do, as they are, OP is an example.

rorrr 8y ago

There are 111K subscribers. Good luck banning any meaningful fraction of that.

TRPLeftist 8y ago

Its autoban so unless you make a second account you're going to get banned.

Scroph 8y ago

r/offmychest.. I'm pretty sure I never posted in it, but it sounds like a subreddit you would use a throwaway for. I'd say that it doesn't matter whether or not they ban you because you wouldn't use your main account to post in it anyway.

xwm 8y ago

If you're still posting in it then you haven't absorbed enough of the red pill.

Law number 5: If you're a man, no one cares. Pick your own shit up and keep moving.

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BooksofMagic 8y ago

It is supposed to be impossible to get a ban notice unless you have accrued karma in this subreddit.

Does anyone else see this? Maybe it's been too long since I was a programmer, but it looks to me like you could write a script to find all subscribed members TRP and ban them.

That's some Communist China shit right there - who cares where the guilt lies.

vandaalen 8y ago

Of course you can. It's pretty easy to write a bot that iterates over all new posts on a sub and bans the posters on your own sub.

Just append .json behind this URL, then have a look at the Reddit API and you'll see what you can get. I think it would take me one hour max to write a simple bot like that.

I am pretty sure that it somehow is against the API-rules to implement such a bot though.

greycloud24 8y ago

you can always just make a new account and post from there. just don't sub to red pill on it. if people are so stupid as to think your subs are a good evaluation of who you are, than you can feed them false authority just by subbing to all the latest feminist crap. than you can troll from the inside by trying to break poe's law.

Ojisan1 8y ago

Same happened to me last week. I politely but directly asked the mods why I had been preemptively banned from a sub I never visited or even heard of before. They didn't reply to me.

Then I read their sidebar about being a "safe space" and all that, and figured I didn't care what a bunch of creepy, fascist, SJWs think (or don't think, because they wouldn't ever want to be exposed to a thought that is outside their narrow set of opinions).

Good luck to them.

[deleted] 8y ago

Wow. I've been banned from /r/offmychest last week for no reason too. I haven't posted there for weeks since I left that sub a month or two ago (or more, can't remember), so I was surprised. Now I know why.

I've sent a message to the mods in the very day I received the ban notification. It's been around 5 days and no response from them yet. Not that I need it anymore. I guess I can be pretty sure it's for the same reason as you.

JimProfitLeninist 8y ago

Dude I've been banned for shit I've said outside of Reddit all together. Fucking Reddit is terrible and full of autists who don't even know the God damn law.

flyingwolf 8y ago

What does the law have to do with this?

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Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 8y ago

I don't get you guys. I've never been banned from any subreddit.

Aerobus 8y ago

Check offmychest. I don't remember ever getting a notification, but apparently I'm banned from there. I can't post or comment.

Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 8y ago

Well what do you know?

I don't think I have ever posted or read that sub, but apparently, they go through ours and write down names. I wonder where else I'm famous.

tehwankingwalruses 8y ago

IrbyTremor is one of the most crazy SRSers. Doesn't surprise me.

xthemoonx 8y ago

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

Big_ol_Bro 8y ago

Fun fact: a woman wrote that

xthemoonx 8y ago

she was talking about voltaire and how he saw the world.

Wrong_Opinion 8y ago

Wait a second, who among us is invading subs? Sometimes there's discussion of topics and conversation brought up in other subs but I've never seen a call to a raid in here, ever.

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Shadow_banned1 8y ago

I was looking at offmychest and the mods there claim that TRP has bots that troll reddit looking for places where Red Pill is mentioned so we can brigade their subs... made me lol at how delusional they are.

Iupvoteforknowledge 8y ago

None of us. Not a single one of us has wasted their fucking time doing that. Because here at trp we are taught our time is valuable.

redpillschool Admin 8y ago

At this point, TRP is just the boogeyman catch-all for ideas they don't like. Anybody posting something they don't like.. well, it must be TRP invading!

Sergnb 8y ago

tbh it's quite the same thing people do with srs. It has become a giant target for anyone to point at and say "they did it!" with no further burden of proof required and massive amounts of oneuppers agreeing with you and then commenting on how awful srs is and blablabla.

People look at things like these, slap them with an "extremist" label, and then blame them for anything bad that happens related to that topic. Feminists shut down a male rights conference? Must have been orchestrated by srs. Bunch of people in deadbedrooms telling the OP that she is the cause of her husband not having any libido? Must be a trp raid. Some complete imbecilo saying stupid shit on askreddit about women? Must be a highly ranked and well respected member of the Church of Theredpillology. It has been like this with politics since the beginning of time.

Just gratuitious vitriol for the sake of "I wanna feel like I'm the smartest person on the internet". Pointless tribal war.

I am always forced into this tribality and I always ignore it. I've been banned from /r/feminism while at the same time being invited to participate in /r/femradebates. I got a friend who does nothing but tweet about gamergate bullshit ever since it started. I got other friends who can't stop talking about feminism, inviting me to events and inviting me to report "toxic communities" on facebook all the time. I never post on those subreddits. I don't care about gamergate. I don't talk about stupid shit on facebook. Why should I care about any of those.

Y'all got better things to do than worrying about this shit. Why does it bother you that you got banned from a sub you never post in? Focus on your priorities. You have some lifting to do. You have some reading to do. You have some learning to do. You have to improve yourself motherfucker. Stop paying attention to this bullshit.

Wrong_Opinion 8y ago

Seems about right, we get similar problems over at /r/Anarcho_Capitalism in relation to some other political subs.

Darkone06 8y ago

if anything I seen the oppesite, dont talk about the red pill, dont help out the poor betas. When they are ready they will find the light kind of attitude.

prisonersandpriests 8y ago

When they are ready they will find the light kind of attitude.

If they are ever ready. There will always be poor betas.

[deleted] 8y ago

I actually have posted on that subreddit before. Where is my ban? Hah, I'm almost offended that I haven't received one. Perhaps I haven't been Redpill enough then.

Edit: just got banned not 5 minutes after this comment. About damn time, I say.

sikballa 8y ago

Fuck it. Its a shitty sub that has a very occasional thoughtful post anyway.

iLLprincipLeS 8y ago

pathetic, typical SJW actions, boo hoo, like you can't make a new account in 60 seconds.

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_frog_mastery 8y ago

MAINTAIN THE SAFE SPACE

What are these clowns doing moderating subreddits? They should be making a meager living writing dystopian fiction.

The floor hummed with the resonance of my imminent brain-rape, the front door never stood a chance against their sonic grenades. As I picked the wooden shrapnel out of my chest, I looked upon the blood-red, radiating eyes of an invader, assault rifle clenched taut within her blubbery grip.

"Why?" I pleaded "What the fuck – why – what did I do?"

I don't know why I even bothered to ask.

"Maintain the safe space... MAINTAIN THE SAFE SPACE!"

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PrettyPinkRibon 8y ago

Apparently your brand of man considering you are expending your energy to the topic as well, with just enough energy left over to break down one of your fellow RPer's for sharing. Don't like it, don't engage it. That simple.

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[deleted] 8y ago

You're missing the point. It's not that he's upset about being banned from those subs, obviously that doesn't mean shit. The point is sharing evidence that reddit is quickly becoming a regulated "safe space" and that it will soon be impossible to discuss any dissenting ideas.

Not that reddit ever was good for that, but soon it'll be even more of an echo chamber. Of course it's just reddit, and what happens to reddit doesn't really mean shit. The important part is that this reflects a growing trend in modern Western society that is only getting worse and causing more problems by the day.

AmazingFlightLizard 8y ago

Is there a alternative to Reddit that has just as much content but will genuinely be free of banning people because of what they say? I'm genuinely curious. I didn't sign up for this place to become tumblr.