If you don´t wanna hear a boring story of how I came to this conclusion, just skip to the last paragraph.
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I spent the Saturday partying with some of my friends, as I finished another successful semester in college. We went to a local club and as the night progresses I receive a snap from this real qt who I know through mutual friends but never actually met. Basically, she told me to meet her up at the bar and I did. We talked for like 5 minutes and I told her I gotta go back to my friends.
After some time I feel that I had a little too much to drink so I sit down near the entrance for a minute. A friend of mine, who is kinda awkward soon follows and sits to my left side. There was plenty of room next to both of us for other people to sit, as it was one huge couch. Then I receive the next snap from the qt that she is going home and that she wants to say goodbye. Told her I am on the couch and a few minutes later there she was sitting next to me. We were just casually talking about many different things and she even made my awkward friend open up a bit. Keep in mind at this point I was 100% certain I don´t want to game her or anything so I kept talking to some random people that sat next to us as well.
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(On a side note, I am 20 and this girl is 18 years old) Suddenly these 2 older guys, 25 and 28 sit next to my awkward friend and start hitting up the girl next to me. The 25-year-old dude stood up and sat next to her and asked her If I am her boyfriend, we both said no. That's when I see this fucker grin like he was struck by lighting, he fixes his hair, his shirt, and posture. Keep in mind he didn´t look good at all, kinda overweight and a really messy beard. Suddenly he starts insulting me on every occasion he gets, things like oh look at your shit watch (even though my watch costs more than 200 times more than his, he just didn't know the watchmaker), oh you look so young etc. That's when I knew the game is on. I won´t just sit there and see this wannabe alpha undermine me. I didn´t answer directly like oh no its not a cheap watch or oh you look old. I always played it cool and managed to pull out a funny counter which made the girl laugh.
He kept pulling her in like a little creep, which she denied and each time leaned closer to me. At one point I told myself its enough, pulled her closer to me, holding her head and I start kissing her. You should have seen the look on this guys face, he was about to cry but tried to laugh it off. It was beyond hilarious. After I was done he had the audacity to ask for her number. She asks me If she should give it to him, and I just told her to go straight ahead. His face lights up again, he kisses her hand and walks away. As he left, she straight away blocked him and made fun of him.
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My point is, It is not alpha to try and insult other guys in the group. It just shows how low your own self-esteem is that you have to do that. If your frame isn´t strong enough to withhold such insults, yea maybe you are gonna look bad, but still, it doesn´t add anything to the guys' value. It just makes him look self-conscious and weak in the eyes of women.
Echovoid_52 5y ago
I agree it's not Alpha to go around putting down others. There's nothing I hate more then casual sadism and you'll def see it in the bar settings with younger dudes all competing for the same vapid catty narcissistic cunts. It's why when I go out I go out alone and I go to bars that don't have a lot of degenerate dudebro frat Neanderthals. If some dude tries to openly humiliate me in front of women like that I'm scared of what I might do. I'm not the insecure type I just have a violent streak and If I get the sense a dude is trying to publicly ridicule me to get his rocks off, my first instinct is how can I murder this dude and get away with it?
You kinda fall into this trap tho. Talking about how you and the vapid cunt girl were laughing at the guy and how you brutally humiliated him.
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BlackPillApocalypse 5y ago
Wow you are so cool, circle jerk some more!
buttgoogler 5y ago
Reminded me of this.
Andgelyo 5y ago
Lmaooooo this is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen
l7elete 5y ago
Perfect example, i recommend watching it from the start.
Zech4riah 5y ago
lol, that's gotta burn :D
And white knighting right afterwards.
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Battagliare 5y ago
That's when I see this fucker grin like he was struck by lighting, he fixes his hair, his shirt, and posture.
The disgusting thing in here is that he fixed his posture etc.. for a girl, not for himself. He reeks of weak frame.
UnbreakableButts 5y ago
Jesus what a fucking trainwreck of a person. You don't even have to say anything back to them, they dig their own grave.
512165381 5y ago
After taking TRP, I see lots of natural alpha guys in their 20s. They use RP techniques without even thinking. You don't need to be an ass to people.
imdeadinside573 5y ago
And then everyone clapped.
Seriously this sub is becoming such trash. Everyone trying to flex with no real advice.
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imdeadinside573 5y ago
How did you get that out of my comment? Because I made a simple observation about a shit post?
If you cant tell what is good content and what is some dude mentally masturbating and trying to flex then you havent been here for long. There is literally not one piece of good advice in this post. Also the whole "he put his shoulders back" like WTF? That reminds me of the weird text memes where the dudes go "looks up while shrugging* mlady" What a weird way to explain an interaction. Also no one ever goes "hey are you his girlfriend?" This story is as real as superman.
imdeadinside573 5y ago
Also if you look at his post history he posts about his acne, and how to make friends in college. This fucking dude is as beta as they come. Don't buy into it. Let's make this community better by vetting the content and not making it another incel factory.
BlackPillApocalypse 5y ago
Agreed. Such bullshit ego posts
ohRyZze 5y ago
Lol pls look at your only post. You truely have mental issues
imdeadinside573 5y ago
I live it up homie. I don't sit and mentally masturbate by making useless posts on reddit.
ohRyZze 5y ago
Read through your post once again mate. Its pathetic
imdeadinside573 5y ago
Lol. Ok bro. Go have fun tickling your asshole to your fantasy from last weekend on how you totally out alpha-ed some other grom.
ohRyZze 5y ago
Go climb mount everest in a tank top you fucking delusional moron
imdeadinside573 5y ago
How is making friends in college coming along you pimple flared fuck?
AbyssWatcher001 5y ago
I have to admit, that actually made me chuckle.
thiikn 5y ago
In fact the guy is a loser. I benefit from making fun of these dudes silently to the girl, and even saying things like "I'm gonna kiss you so this douche walks away" have worked for me before.
ohRyZze 5y ago
Good point haven thought about that
Managicall 5y ago
You got to say you are taken otherwise these homosexuals are going to start negging on you.
IceColdHell 5y ago
When a man insults you, that’s akin to a shit test. I would just agree and amplify. Don’t let insults from others get to you, that means they win. I’ve been very cold blooded in this regard. I’d enjoy their boiling faces as I boldly laugh at their anger in front of their face.
acoolguy12334 5y ago
I agree that one of the biggest indicators of male insecurity is the need to come at other dudes, around women or not...
adonis_syche 5y ago
"For what it's worth, I think sharing about such incidents is kinda helpful. I see a lot of people out here saying it affected you enough to write about it. Well, everything affects us, sometimes we realize it, other times we let it slip away. The dude is a TRPd 20 y/o. You did a savage thing while thinking of it in a faun way, kudos to you.
I was sort of like that 25 y/o guy when I was in my teens, it was a phase and I knew what a dicky thing it was to be, but it is THIS POST, which acted as the final nail today. Now I've understood something perfectly. We learn in stages.
I've seen this awesome group of subredditors often having the most unattainable standards of holding frame and what not, as if nothing should even affect you. While that is ideal, it is sort of unrealistic. A more realistic thing is to not let your emotions dictate your actions.
Dunno what my message is, but to the OP, do keep posting about this little incidents. Unfortunately some of us here have overdosed on TRP and can't even tolerate slightest misdemeanors. Every post has something to offer. "
-john the pimp (not a real pimp)
ohRyZze 5y ago
This is insanely true you speak my mind. I don't get the guy which thing that even if you make one little mistake, as a beginner even, it automatically ivalidates everything else you said.
adonis_syche 5y ago
Exactly! It is a common occurence here. Too many dudes here focus on outward symptoms of TRP rather than internalizing it. The most alpha dude I know is a simple old guy, who anyone would mistake for a beta cuck. But he is a man inside, never takes shit, and has internalized alpha-manliness traits. You're doing it well, mate! Just focus on internalizing it more than focusing on "seeming" like an alpha. Be an aplha within. Cheers!
FullMetalAsshole 5y ago
Can’t blame the guy really. Society tells him to “flex” on bitches with material goods and he willingly obliges. There’s nothing in society that tells men to develop properly from within in a truly masculine direction. If this guy was a true alpha he would’ve not only handled the situation better but could’ve done so in a pair of jeans and a white t shirt. Boom alpha magic.
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immibis 5y ago
"Conforming to the rules of life to the best of your ability" sounds like a definition of succeeding, so.
Hemet_ 5y ago
Success loses value to me when it's nothing more than doing your best at what you're being forced to do no matter the amount of suffering you or others receive.
Whether or not I'm suffering matters, the same goes for another.
KlubTHEMinecarttrapb 5y ago
my friend, do you know what Stockholm syndrome is?
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KlubTHEMinecarttrapb 5y ago
Stockholm syndrome is when a victim develops a trust or affection with their captor. What you described was not Stockholm syndrome, you just threw it in there to make it sound even worse.
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KlubTHEMinecarttrapb 5y ago
that is not stockholm syndrome tho dummy
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KlubTHEMinecarttrapb 5y ago
Hey now there's nothing wrong with some Asperger's my man! Or woman, judging by bitchiness.
bakamoney 5y ago
I mean from the other guys perspective.
He got a number and a hand kiss. (Irrelevant but still). After she was kissing the guy next to her.
From the girls perspective;
She's on fucking cloud 9 and will mentally gap to this twice that night.
The amount of validation received lmao.
Battagliare 5y ago
Isnt hand kiss is fucking cringe tho ? Is this 19th century....
bakamoney 5y ago
Yeah. The girl won glamorously.
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mrpthrowa 5y ago
You also have a long way to go. You say you are not interested in this girl but you’re gauging the success of your interactions by her reactions - you and this dude are in her frame. And here you are talking about this dude he rattled you enough to come here posting your invaluable insights...
You’re a long way from being your own mental point of origin
ohRyZze 5y ago
Sure I am here to learn. Never said I am perfect or anything :)
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ohRyZze 5y ago
Yea it was really really creepy and cringy. He kept saying how rich he is because he had a 50$ belt and a 100$ watch which was so fucking awkward
BluetoothMcGee 5y ago
$100 watch? That's peanuts in the world of horology.
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Itscommonsensebro 5y ago
My store got a lot of foreign workers recently and they talk just like this guy and think its totally normal.
_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
Shit even Kohl's charges $50 for a decent belt these days!
ohRyZze 5y ago
Yea he was a foreigner and maybe that was a lot of money for him. Still random to fucking show off with that
Nicolas0631 5y ago
I don't get this. Almost anybody can have a $5000 watch. It is just a matter of priorities.
If you have to speak of it or to insist on it, this means that it isn't natural to you and you had to make effort to get it... meaning you are just almost anybody: you can afford it but should not.
RPLawyer 5y ago
Yeah, luxuries like that mean nothing in a world where loans and credit cards exist. In fact, if someone flaunted one single expensive item to make statement, I'd think that guy is probably up to his eyeballs in credit card debt.
Trooper_1868 5y ago
why would you spend 5k on a watch? Horrible investment unless you need it for work where you are judged by what you wear.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Your are judged by what you wear everywhere. Go to street gang, to a bank, a software company to ski or club, people are going to expect different looks. You want to have a look that is similar to the top tier of the members of the group you want to be part of basically.
Trooper_1868 5y ago
Exactly, so it i better to blend in sometimes. Most people who come from old wealth do not go out of their way to show it in people's faces. They keep it hidden and you can only tell if you really look.
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QueenSlapFight 5y ago
And there's the answer right there. The only thing having a $5000 watch proves is you spent $5000 on something whose function is already performed more accurately on the phone in your pocket.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
I agree. But this isn't the point. Watches are jewelry that participate to your overall look. People judge you in a few seconds and they only have your appearance for that, so that's important.
But $5000 is likely overkill if the rest doesn't match: clothes, manners, car & flat. Ultimately it is going to show if you fake it too obviously.
You can get a good part of the effect with a watch that is nice looking and improve your look but has a reasonable cost.
QueenSlapFight 5y ago
I think $5,000 for a watch is a waste, but I also don't think $5,000 is much money. My comment is more pertaining to those who think it's a status symbol. A lot of people think they look like a tool.
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QueenSlapFight 5y ago
The most popular car driven by millionaires are Toyota Camrys. I'm not sure of this "signaling theory" of which you speak. Trying to convince people you have money sounds like a poor person thing to do.
JarHeadJoseph 5y ago
Don’t know where you got that. The actual list of cars driven by 250,000 dollar median income household is Mercedes E-Class, BMW, Lexus, and then it goes into Toyota then Honda.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Trying may be a stupid thing. Succeding is another thing entirely.
Remember that other people have only appearances to judge you and that the first few seconds make the most impact. People associate wealthyness with success, power and authority.
It works for both women and business.
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immibis 5y ago
Which "proves" that you have $50,000 or more to spend, or you wouldn't be wasting $5000 on a watch unless you were really stupid.
This is called conspicuous consumption, by the way.
ohRyZze 5y ago
I want the one talking about it in the club lol. I never ever mentioned it. Also I actually cant afford it it was a present
Nicolas0631 5y ago
Sure but who really care ?
First if you are not interrested in watches and the watch has not the most obvious brand like rolex, nobody is going to see the difference between a $100 and $1000 watch.
Then if the rest doesn't fit: the car, the clothes, the flat, it doesn't project anything special/powerful.
I am not criticing you, my point was more to the other guy, but clearly you don't seem confident in yourself. I get it perfectly as this is hard. Projecting wealth and success is relevant, but it shall come naturally. If you play it hard, then it doesn't work.
That the thing, any moderately successful guy can have a great car, a nice flat, nice clothes and some style when he his 30, it is much harder at 20.
schmoomfy 5y ago
If all the fellas in this here sub that claimed to be alphas actually were alphas, then Walmart on a saturday afternoon would look like a Mr. Universe contest. Just sayin'.
Da_RectumWrecker 5y ago
If you spread the 300k subscribers we have here all over the world, it's highly unlikely that you would ever run into another subscriber in the real world. I get what you meant and that it was hyperbole but I'm just saying.
halfback910 5y ago
Jesus. Dude sounds like a neckbeard. He kissed her hand...?
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Zech4riah 5y ago
You should be proud of yourself. Your post triggered half of the spergsters here :D
ohRyZze 5y ago
Honestly its insane. Havent been here and didnt expect it to get this bad. Back then people actually helped eachother
itsjustsimon- 5y ago
Can someone explain to me why this is upvoted so much?
The quality of this sub is going down the toilet.
ohRyZze 5y ago
Dont be so grumpy. Maybe thats the reason why nobody respects you in a group :)
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
No, he's right. This "field report" is horseshit. It's really just a way for you to pump your ego with a horrifically uneventful story about you getting butthurt over someone hitting on a girl you didn't fuck.
What use do you think this post is?
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neverquitman 5y ago
How did you decide you were ready to kiss the girl especially if you didn't get to have chemistry because the dude kept making the social tension hard ?
ohRyZze 5y ago
I just wanted to keep the post from being too long so I didn´t add every detail.
The first time I met her at the club she was already really touchy, like touching my face etc. I knew she would be easy to game, I just didn't want to as I recently broke up with my GF and it still kinda sticks to me. I just changed my mind as this guy started insulting me.
There was this instance where the guy asked her if she likes me more than a friend. She made a choking sound, so basically a shit test. I told him thats what she did on the toilet a few minutes ago aswell, she couldn´t stop laughing. Things like that showed me its just easy to get her if I wanted to. She kept leaning on me and scratching my head and leg as well so there's that. As we were talking, she came really close to me with her head but I just kept talking until I told myself fuck it and I took her head an started to make out with her
Lubomir1994 5y ago
good job man. you way further than other snowflake bluepilled millenialls.
BittyMitty 5y ago
Your situation seems so peaceful.
Were I live, going to strangers and insult them can easily get you to the ER.
Girls or no girls around.
ohRyZze 5y ago
Here its really strict. One punch and ypu can go to jail
BittyMitty 5y ago
Having jail time is like earning the stripes.
And some, don't even care. It's like their reputation is more important than their freedom.
Also, there are people that even the police is afraid to deal with them.
Is less likely to meet them in regular bars, but at fancy clubs you might meet your luck.
ohRyZze 5y ago
I cant afford jail time with a prospective career in investment banking though
Kruppstahlterminator 5y ago
What a loser. One wouldn't believe such people exist if one wouldn't have met similar people within their life time.
I remember a guy who tried so desperately to get to an attractive friend of mine that he purposely treated the group around her like crap. Bad move. It eventually ended with him being thrown out of the club.
NYCSPARKLE 5y ago
Let me ask you this, do you think that guy is upset this morning worrying about you or your watch and posting to the internet?
Sounds like you showed up to a bar when this girl beckoned you.
This guy was just there and approached her.
He maybe was drunk and making fun of people (including you) but you seem really irked by his cheap watch and “messy beard,” like anyone gives a shit about those things. Jason Mamoa has a messy beard, and could wear a Timex and still pull more than you.
She shit tested you hard asking if she should give him her number, especially if you guys had just been making out.
Good for you for keeping your cool I guess, but still seem too in your own head.
Edit: A guy in his mid to late 20s is more attractive to a young girl than you are. That’s just facts, man.
ohRyZze 5y ago
It was not just that. He looked like your textbook neckbeard. You cant fucking tell me that with any amount of game you can pull a girl with those looks. Additionally, he was fucking 25 looking like 30 and the biggest loser you could imagine.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
Are you new here? You don't seem to have any clue what you're talking about. Did you smash the girl or not?
Nicolas0631 5y ago
In term of age, they are 100% rigth that being 30 years old is much better for a man than 20. A man that is 20 is simply too young to have anything for him.
ohRyZze 5y ago
Well I am sure that is true if he doesn't look like a loser.
_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
Looks don't matter that much if dude has good game.
Which he did.
He got her digits, the real ones I assume, right in front of you, with your explicit permission even though she was begging you to say "no" like a real man.
Look up "cuckold" and report back.
Lubomir1994 5y ago
she can easily unblock his number later, true
surfclimb 5y ago
Fucking lol.
NYCSPARKLE 5y ago
Oh shit I just re-read: he actually got her number.
Yeah bro that dude wins and you lose.
She “blocked” him in front of you so you’d continue to orbit her and show up at a bar whenever she asks you.
And considering how much he likes to brag about his watch cost, I’d be willing to bet a Breitling that OP was buying her drinks all night.
_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
Dude, she asked the OP if she should give the guy her digits, and he said "go ahead."
I'd want to take your bet but we're on the same side.
NYCSPARKLE 5y ago
If I saw someone as tragic as you’re describing him, I would feel bad for them, not butt hurt.
ohRyZze 5y ago
I am not really butt hurt tho. If I was I would be reacting completely differently to his remakrs
Arednor13 5y ago
DARE, don’t DEER.
goblinboglin 5y ago
You shouldn't give fuck about things like this.
The fact that you had the effort to write whole post about him is sign that it struck you.
Hold your frame mate.
ohRyZze 5y ago
Yea you are right. Just wanted to get it out there
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ohRyZze 5y ago
I broke up with my ex just a few weeks back so i wasnt in the mood for anything more than kissing and not even that at the beginning thats why I didnt push it
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TheRedPike 5y ago
I would content that large portions of the bible are completely fabricated, but you could still learn something from it. I really dislike the "fake and gay" comments and have been known to go on ban rampages over it. Don't do it.
mindplaybyneo 5y ago
Well done. Same thing happens to me last night. 2 little skinny dudes living here in a small town trying to provoke a fight. They were getting mad cause apparently I was trying to steal his fat bitch. ????????♂️
CainPrice 5y ago
You're entirely too invested in this situation. Some girl you don't want to fuck that you're just kind of lightly flirting with gets hit on by other guys. Instead of not caring, you're measuring your dick next to theirs. Comparing how they're doing to how you did, how old they are, who said what about who.
On the plus side, maybe you helped teach this other guy a valuable lesson. You're sitting with this girl, you both declare that you're not boyfriend and girlfriend, he awkwardly makes his move, and five minutes later, you, her not-boyfriend, start making out with her. Though even after this glimpse of what this woman is like, he still wants her number, not realizing that getting her number for later makes him look pretty desperate.
redpilledjaguar 5y ago
it looks like you are pissed off about it, just forget it lol, thats not very alpha (since you are talking about being alpha)
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Tuplad 5y ago
TLDR: 20 year old went to a bar and got negged, made out with an 18 year old. Writes field report.
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Why is this a post?
beachbbqlover 5y ago
Bump. Can this be the tldr?
Well, I suppose that and "dont think being a dick to her guyfriends makes you alpha"
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Vikingcel 5y ago
OP is not 18 tho
Tuplad 5y ago
Easy there overly manly man.
The point is: it's not a stage of unplugging, it's a humble brag about nothing which adds no value. People who are "unplugged" just skim through and roll their eyes. People who are here for shits and giggles will comment about how awesome TRP is and it saved their life. This will create more douchebags instead of unplugging. Which you have proven by insulting and not being able to explain why this should be a post or valuable content. The quality of the sub is falling by these posts. Just a year ago every post was insightful, now there are a bunch of teenagers posting drunk hookup stories or who were too bored and wrote essays about thoughts.
Battagliare 5y ago
You cant know better than the Endorsed.
_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
Yeah "Endorsed Contributor" tried to teach me about irony in this thread also. Makes me want to ignore the "Endorsed Contributor" tag going forward.
ZedBaby 5y ago
Not really, I've seen a bunch of humble brags on here and this isn't on of them.
The value of this field report is teaching the lesson that someone who AMOGs (with insults) isn't necessarily an alpha male and he gave an example of why.
Tuplad 5y ago
There's a part where he speaks about how the dude was about to cry. That's a little brag.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
Bullshit. This is an un-insightful humblebrag. Nothing is explained.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Being a asshole wannabe alpha hardly ever works. However, it can provide a great opportunity for guys who can deal with this type. On several occasions I've been approached by anxious and/or scared women and asked if they could stand next to me or if I'd pretend to be their boyfriend. Being the guy who's not harmless (I'm 6'4" look fairly strong) but who also not an obvious ass is sometimes the way to go.
Vikingcel 5y ago
Only because he was unattractive in the first place.
Snowaey 5y ago
My incel-alarm is going off
Vikingcel 5y ago
My nick is literally Vikingcel, lol.
Tell me where I'm wrong tho, without some shitty ad hominems or some other fallacious arguments your borderline genius ass could come up with.
ohRyZze 5y ago
He was unattractive by his own choice tho. If he lost weight,the beard and had a nice hairstyle he would be decent. I know that doesnt help most ugly guys but it would in his case
Vikingcel 5y ago
That's besides the point. If he was some witty handsome lad, the chick would be laughing at you with him.
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_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
Kisses her hand?
What the actual fuck.
Also the real lesson here is don't drink so much.
ohRyZze 5y ago
yea the dude wanted to give her a kiss as a goodbye, even though he saw me making out with her 5 min earlier. She told him the only thing he can kiss is her hand, and that's what he did
KlubTHEMinecarttrapb 5y ago
"Could I please kiss your hand?"
just thinking about that makes me want to commit toaster bath.
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ohRyZze 5y ago
Go fuck off honestly how delusional are you. Or are you just jealous that you are a 53 year old fuck who has to put down people on trp because he cant have the same experiences other than with 60 year old grandmas?
_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
I'm fucking a 28 year old hottie right now who likes to call me "daddy".
Me being 53 means I have like 30+ years of experience that I'm bringing to my comments. You should respect that.
Don't make fun of my age, you'll be here one day.
ohRyZze 5y ago
Sure i dont have respect for anyone who calls someone a "cuck" for letting a randome kiss the girls hand lol
_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
You really want to do this, son? Okay let's do this:
Grown men stay in control. They don't drink so much they have to put themselves in a "time out".
Feeling you had to "rescue" and "save" this girl from what you describe as a classic Alpha is "White Knighting" which is absolute Beta behavior. If you had no interest in this girl, show that you had no interest by walking away or amusedly watching the show and letting her make her own mistakes. If you didn't give a fuck, show that you didn't give a fuck.
Grown men don't get into pissing matches with each other about their watches and belts. What do you give a fuck what some stranger thinks of your watch?
You know what grown men do? They have conversations with each other about how interesting their watches are, how they got them, the features of this or that particular watch.
And grown men don't get into random arguments with other grown men about anything. It's not worth the time or energy to argue with someone who is in your life for literally ten minutes. The guy is a stranger, who gives a fuck what he thinks about anything.
She asked if she could say "goodnight" to you. IOI. She sought you out and sat down next to you. IOI. She asked you *permission* - IOI - if she should give the guy her number and you said "yes". Basically you gave her permission to fuck him if she wanted. But what she really wanted was for you to take charge - like a grown man - and tell her no and stop flirting with this asshole. So she escalated by giving him permission to kiss her, to see if you'd man up and put a stop to it. And you didn't.
I honestly don't have time to read any more of your silly post.
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_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
I called him a cuck because he gave permission to a girl he obviously likes to give her phone number to a dude that was hitting on her right in front of him, and tried to argue with me by rationalizing sitting by silently while the dude kissed her.
The real irony here is the kid claiming to be the Alpha when in fact he was clearly the chump. See my notes, just above.
BloodSurgery 5y ago
So, was he supposed to tell her "no, don't give her your number"? Of course if he said yes, after how she reacted to the other guy, wasn't gonna go on a date with him or anything. She instantly blocked her, and its obvious that was why he said yes.
_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
First, her asking him "should I give him my number" was her crying out for him to man-up and take control of the situation instead of sitting there getting abused from some choad. She was practially begging him to show interest in her, and her asking was an IOI in itself.
Second, if he was interested in her (his OP and his subsequent comments make this an ambiguous assumption at best) yes, he absolutely should have been in control, been the man, and forbidden her from giving out her number.
If she accepted his manly guidance, he wins. If she fights him and gives out her number, he also wins by knowing she's not interested in him (even though she obviously was).
By giving her "permission" he's now in an ambiguous situation where he doesn't know if she likes him or not. He loses. So he took himself from a 100% situation of winning either way; into an ambiguous situation.
Her "blocking" the number, by the way was another IOI he missed.
olimpicus 5y ago
Just don't care and be secure of yourself
silent_dominant 5y ago
"should I give him my number" was a shit test to see if he was too insecure to let her do it.
BloodSurgery 5y ago
Thanks for the write out. Wrote my comment, read some other wise comments, and deleted my comment before you even sent yours, yet you clarified to me why it was bad to let him get her number.
Appreciate it, specially by not calling me faggot and shit, and being clear and objective about the situation.
_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
I'm cracking up, why would I call you names? LOL to internet anonymity.
So my post is up for others to read and learn from.
BloodSurgery 5y ago
I ask myself that whenever I post an opinion and people disagree with it. But yeah, what are insults over the internet anyways? Nothing but empty words.
Wish I hadn't deleted my comment now tbh.
TheH1dd3nFear 5y ago
Of course He's an IT Bro with a fucking beer gut.
sadomasochrist 5y ago
For all you know she unblocked his number after you were gone and setup a ride on the baloney pony. I wouldn't call these guys beta by any stretch of the imagination.
TBH, you seem pretty butthurt by the whole situation. I can't really tell what this woman is to you in the story, you say you're not gaming her, then get offended that they moved in for the kill.
This is all pretty textbook stuff and whether or not the number is real, she takes the call or calls back is irrelevent. That's not your place.
I mean if you're not interested, you're not interested. Yet you're trying to "protect her" like she's your little sister, but the best I can see this is just some random girl?
He's escalating. You're going to have a hard time if you have a problem with this. This is SJW shaming. What's he supposed to do, wait for her to say "you may now court me?"
Sorry man, reread the content here.
Da_RectumWrecker 5y ago
Well to be fair to OP there is escalating correctly and there is escalating like a creep. If the girl isn't attracted to you before you start escalating it shows poor social skill and will come off as creepy to everyone observing. But if she is attracted to you, you could do whatever the fuck you want and she will be into it.
dr_warlock 5y ago
She would have definitely liked the AMOGer if he lost frame. He basically raided. Predation is attractive if successful. Whether or not he relinquished his possessions out of fear or fought back bravely but couldn't hold off the adversary, it makes him the loser and raider the victor.
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Sometimes it's not about the girl, it's the principle. The fact a strange man felt comfortable coming to your turf and taking some goods is the problem.
Zech4riah 5y ago
Did the same observations in addition to questioning his frame which doesn't seem to bother other guys because they just came in with insults.
ohRyZze 5y ago
Bro I found her extremely cute and really my type, i just didnt wanna game her as I wasnt in the mood for it. This changed as the dude came.
Honestly If you think this is okay you also have to go through the material here again. IF she shows a ton of signs of not being interested, pulling her in is such a creepy move. She even looked disgusted by it.
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sadomasochrist 5y ago
Well it's a good thing you're such a gentleman. Because otherwise she might have had sex with you.
Maybe, or maybe they met up at 2am to look at his stamp collection while he performed an emergency slipadicktome and talked about you as captain save-a-ho. Either way, you're using language of the enemy.
Why do you even care if she's "disgusted?" If anything you should be dissapointed that the frame of your post isn't what you did wrong, why you didn't pull.
Frankly man, I don't think anyone here is going to understand your mindset. Why do you give a shit about some random woman and sit here steaming about some guy that AMOG'd you?
Yeah, you got AMOG'd because you didn't establish the frame of the interaction with this woman. The frame you established was not interested.
If you are as funny, attractive and interesting as you think and you made the effort to establish interest in her, she'd have told him to go away or looked for your instruction like she did at the end.
But to be frank, my gut read on this is her deference to you at the end was to use you as a tool, she probably was overwhelmed by your jealousy and was thriving off the needy attention that we can all smell in this post.
I can only reply based on the post you left, which shows you didn't leave with her, get contact details, set up anything etc.
Either way, we can all read your frame of mind in this post. It's not good.
CasualPlay3r 5y ago
Well, what did you expect him to do man? The other guy came and wanted to play a silly game.
Guy:"i want to game the girl". Op:"Not interested in the girl, whatever" Guy: "also imma AMOG you" Op: "lol ok mate" random guy has mediocre social game, and OP just outstyles him in front of a girl, tingles ensue, and OP makes out in front of girl
It was a perfect game from OP. the dude recognized all the social cues correctly and acted accordingly. Nothing else to say.
Im gonna agree with you in one thing tho, you are right when you say the girl used OP as an excuse to shoo away the other dude. Its just funny how much power women are capable of manifest when it comes to men.
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Nicolas0631 5y ago
The guy got after the OP nerves by insulting him in front of his relation.
He is perfectly right that this sort of behavior is not acceptable. You shall not do that to another person even if the man that is with the girl is the most terrible one ever. That he his her boyfriend, sister, colleague, whatever, this is just insulting and having to resort to that show lack of social skills and basic education.
_do_not_read_this_ 5y ago
While this is a good statement on how humans should treat each other, the reality is that people can be dicks to each other.
You can't control the other person being a dick. But you can control your reaction to them. The OP chose to get into an argument - in other words, the OP walked into the AMOGs frame and played right along with AMOGs pickup of OPs woman by letting the AMOG establish his Alpha status over the OP.
I would have chosen to give him my Sicilian death look for ten seconds, then laugh and ignore him. But I'm a lot older and see that there's no point in arguing with random total strangers about how much my belt cost.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
What? Fuck that, dude. There are no rules. Don't expect people to follow some sort of code.
sadomasochrist 5y ago
There is no decorum when it comes to pulling women. This isn't a formal work function or dinner party.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
This show no education and I don't think that being rude and needy improve you chances.
You can likely almost do the same but at least look cool and confident.
Sonny_Luna 5y ago
This is completely idealistic drivel. It reeks of someone who's only read about the tenets of TRP but hasn't much experience.
sadomasochrist 5y ago
This is mental masturbation. Dudes who are brash, rude and give no fucks whatsoever pull all the time. How are you going to reframe that interaction with a guy who doesn't care?
That's exactly what this thread is. A guy realizing that there's no rules in the game and trying to reframe it.
Da_RectumWrecker 5y ago
I agree with you. I make dudes look stupid all the time and get plenty of girls. I'm not actively looking to amog a guy, but it is in my bag of tools and I'm willing to use it.
Nicolas0631 5y ago
This kind of behavior get you in fights I still don't see it as smart honestly. Whatever you says the OP still was more successful than the other guy from what we can know of. The other guy failed, go over it.
dr_warlock 5y ago
This is not about 'intelligence' or long term thinking. Just what works. Morality and civility is not a boundary in the SMP. It's just up to you how far you're willing to go to get what you want.
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sadomasochrist 5y ago
Yes. Physical capability is sometimes the measure of a man. And in some cases, men have to exit the competition. OP and you want to exit at the level of banter.
They both failed.
uwey 5y ago
But it is Alpha to use other guys to insult whoever.
Use other to do your bidding