I was raised in probably one of the most extreme feminist cultures of the 1990s, and we were taught that slogan, "feminism is the radical notion that women are people."
Women were always people. The trouble with this is that the loaded word here is, "people."
TRP takes women off the fictional pedestal of being magical, nurturing, loving, maternal saints, and recognizes that they are individuals with self-interest and biological imperative. They are people who are capable of all the guile, cunning and predatory instinct of the most stone cold man.
Their survival toolkit has a lot less capability for physical violence in it, and yet it still has to be at least as dangerous as the male one. That's how serious theirs needs to be.
There's a reason "the female of the species is more deadly than the male." Our fathers and grandfathers were taught Kipling's version of this in grade school, but it's been effectively banned as sexist since the 1990s. https://archive.is/BEtAI
TRP acknowledges this more than any critical theory revisionist mythmaking ever could. The big point is that TRP has a few thousand years of prior art that has literally been suppressed in the education system for the last 25 years. The more I read this site, TRP isn't fringe, radical, self-help, or reactionary at all. It's wisdom that has stood the test of time. It's wisdom that has been the focus of a coordinated political effort to raise boys in ignorance of.
So yes, of course women are people - and history shows that people are generally pretty fucking awful. Handle them with care.
Trisha_Hill 9y ago
Very good read - i loved the "Trp is wisdom that has stood the test of time
bitterbut_true 9y ago
I tend to think that we place females in "character" so we can cope. If we really dealt with them as they are, as people, we would be horrified in MANY cases (not all, of course) of the sheer vanity, sociopathology and self serving 'logic". We'd conclude they're "insane", like a nutter who believes their delusions, and we'd move on. BUT...we're lazy with an innate 'female perception disability' and many still want to enjoy those 'good bits' (sex, nurturing, eye candy etc)...so we put them into character. Of course our sociological female 'nutter' helps this process along by appearing "in character" (i.e make up/role play etc). In conclusion if we want to avoid women, such as the MGTOW's, then that's easy when you REALLY see them as "people"...but if you want sex, or a relationship, I think it helps to put them in character. A sense of denial really, otherwise we'd never get through it.
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Indeed. Red Pill is "post-feminist" in that it doesn't question the notion that women should have equal rights in society, but in fact, their are judged upon their behaviour.
Maybe this is why women hate it, because it forces them to face up to the responsibilities part in the with-rights-come-responsibilities package.
federalfarmer7 9y ago
You should read more history. I've found that leftists-- particularly feminists-- have a very pessimistic view of human nature and it usually stems from historical ignorance and/or historical revisionism. Humans made their way to the top of the food chain because they are incredible.
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which race of humans civilized the world?
bsutansalt 9y ago
This is my personal take on what TRP is based on years in this community:
http://i.imgur.com/FnurWTA.png
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Feminislm is the radical notion that women are people*
(*) and that men are not
exit_sandman 9y ago
The slogan should rather have been "feminism is the radical notion that women are better people" because that's a hell of a lot more accurate.
NeoreactionSafe 9y ago
"So it comes that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
To some God of Abstract Justice—which no woman understands."
Men are the Romantics that need to learn to be Realists.
Red Pill helps us become Realists.
I agree 100%... Beta is a "new creation" ("Last Man") that came from Feminism.
If your father was Beta that's the wrong yardstick of history to compare against. Beta was already growing strong 50 years ago.
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I'd say we simply buried our biological imperatives under abstractions and pursuits of more noble nature as someone like Plato might put it. The problem is Women never did. Women have always been very very aware of their biological imperative. Look at all of mythology. Women are always connected to the Earth and the animal world.
NeoreactionSafe 9y ago
A woman's nature works to undermine the family.
Hypergamy undermines the family concept.
So throughout history all civilizations have been more successful by repressing Hypergamy and supporting the family. Those that allow women to be free to act out their Hypergamy tend to fail.
Natural Selection chooses the stronger over the weaker.
But prosperity invites degenerate habits, so the cycle of rise and fall goes on and on forever repeating the same mistakes. But those mistakes always skip generations. The mistake made by one is not the same as the mistake in the next.
Progress around the cycle is unstoppable... linear progress is false.
The Misandry Bubble is all about this phase of the cyle ending, the collapse.
Red Pill is ready to watch the collapse and be adaptive after as well as enjoy before.
Luke666808g 9y ago
I love my father dearly, and so does my mother, she never tests him or complains, but he is a high beta, for the longest time I considered him the best possible example of a man I could follow in the footsteps of, but I have come to the realization that with the upending of the SMP, that isn't true anymore.
So it feels a bit like betrayal to think this way.
NeoreactionSafe 9y ago
Don't forget that there are still some down to earth decent people here and there that are still doing things the old way. If they are over 50 and grew up in a small town with good backgrounds they might just be good people.
The fact your mother doesn't shit test makes me think she's old school.
In the old way women used Charm instead of shit tests.
Charm is just as effective a technique. (women get what they want)
...granted Charm in women is a lost art, so you have to go Red Pill in our current world.
What we call a "Unicorn" today is what the old Charming woman was long ago. (they no longer exist)
Female quality has steadily declined for the last 100 years, less Charm.
So your dad might have been lucky.
Up until my father died in 1976 my mother was Charming. After he died she became less Charming and more Feminist, but she's still mostly old school.
We're talking an 80 year old so very, very old.
Luke666808g 9y ago
It's not like that, my mum's side came to Western Australia from Holland when there was barely anything here, and was the oldest of 5 kids and so she had to develop a thick skin, so it's not charm, it's just having an aversion to nonsense, at the same my granddad on my dads side was a cleaner at a hotel and my dad and uncle's bedroom was a converted bathroom, my dad would help my granddad clean the hotel he worked at, he has a very strong work ethic, so my mother never had to nag for anything, my father did the work that needed to be done without ever having to be asked, so my mum respected him.
Charm is for upper class folks, working class people who worked their way up from nothing just have a low tolerance for bullshit, and that's why there wasn't any testing or complaining.
NeoreactionSafe 9y ago
Very true.
Charm is for the upper class folks.
It's my Upper Middle Class upbringing I guess.
The hard working people don't have time for it.
Luke666808g 9y ago
I'm not claiming to be that awesome though, by the time the mid 70's rolled around the place was pretty well developed, schools, houses, hospitals, the whole lot, so people could afford to raise spoiled kids, I wouldn't call myself spoiled, but I can definitely appreciate how (extremely) easy I had it, most of the migrants who came to WA from Europe in the 40's and 50's were living in tents, as all the houses were yet to be built.
JackGetsIt 9y ago
To go further I think women expect men of high value to know this intrinsically.
HerculestheRed 9y ago
Of course they do. A man who understands at an unspoken level is not only viewed as normal, it's a kind of "I've done this before" in regards to implying you've had sex before. Implication that another woman in the past has wanted you is good, and understanding the mating dance implies that.
Women want to be able to say "Jack gets it."
dennislang 9y ago
Feminism is actually useful in that sense then. Some talk about it being just yet another shit test that most men fail.
The pool of men who "get it" has shrunk so your relative value is higher than it would have been, with no actual effort from you.
Couple that with the mission to make progress every single day and it's no wonder RP theory gets you laid.
Ulquiorra_Schiffer 9y ago
Maybe from a perspective of getting as much pussy as possible, but from a much wider, forward thinking perspective sees the brainwashing of more and more men each generation as an exceedingly bad thing, for many different reasons.
rpkarma 9y ago
Yeah. Selfishly, feminism is great as it removes tonnes of would be competitors from my dating pool. However as a whole it's a terrible thing for the continuation of society as I would prefer it to be.
RealRational 9y ago
it also reduces the size of the dating pool by baiting tons of females into slutty behavior that makes them undesirable for an LTR.
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Cyralea 9y ago
There is no organization that furthers the idea that women are irresponsible children more than feminists. Every one of their demands requires men to do something for them.
Denying women special privileges is sexist, apparently.
FLFTW16 9y ago
Everyone has the same rights to life, liberty, and property. In Western culture those rights are said to be from a Creator, God. Men created the very concept of rights (but gave credit to God) and believed in the inherent dignity of humans that they made it a universal value, not just men, not just Europeans, everyone.
Women, as a group, are incapable of performing the duties necessary for the formation and sustenance of civilization. It's 'creator' and 'builder' males that construct institutions and guard them (with their lives) against self-destructive and 'watch the world burn' males.
In non-Western cultures there doesn't exist this preoccupation with "rights." Western "rights" are a fiction. A man-made fiction attributed to God. Here is a good quote by Robert Heinlein from Starship Troopers:
Civilization is the result of an abundance of male strength and the desire for a system of patriarchy--which is male investment in the future. It is a group of men floating in the Pacific who decide not to tread water until they drown, but to work together to gather flotsam and jetsam and fashion a raft, and later add an oar, and then a sail, and pick up other men and women who are just treading water and make them into a crew.
Enough time has gone by that people have forgotten what it's like to exist outside of civilization. We have disaster and "collapse porn" and "preppers" who try to learn how to survive if institutions rapidly collapse. Our once humble raft is now a gargantuan aircraft carrier and the bridge has been given over to women and men who think like women. They have slowly but surely transformed the aircraft carrier of Western Civ into a prison barge of high taxation and regulation, while other civilizations (Islam, China, Russia) who don't even acknowledge the Western ideas of human rights are steadily building their rafts into aircraft carriers.
Things are going badly for us. Western Civilization is being transformed for the worse. Europe especially is being inundated with Muslim immigrants that care nothing for Western values or philosophy. They are easily radicalized and become the 'watch the world burn' males that can tear down civilization. At the same time Europe is so emasculated that they are afraid to see reality for what it is, choosing instead the feminine value of 'no hate speech' and 'make everyone feel welcome', but they sow the seeds of their own destruction.
If men are too stupid or too emasculated to take control back, Western Civ will simply go away, like the Roman Empire. Political ties will dissolve, the machine will grind to a halt, things that break will go unfixed, and waves of barbarians will reclaim territory, or it will be absorbed by civilizations that are still sane. In a state of nature, survival of the fittest is the gold standard for what the future looks like. The future doesn't look Western one bit.
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Islam and Chinese culture are highly civilized. China is ethnocentric and cannot become a conquering empire unless that part of their culture is done away with. Which I doubt because it is such a core value. Russia is equally ethnocentric although she would be a candidate for integrating the population of at least western Europe.
Latin American cultures are modern, red pill and multi-ethnic. They could integrate the population of America.
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I disagree. In China they lock people up for religious beliefs. That's not particularly civilized. They're too much of a control state to qualify.
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A control state is a prime example of high civilization. Civilized doesn't mean, humane, free, effective or anything else but civilized. Islam is very civilized with clear and rigid social structures and social roles for everybody.
Culture is not going away worldwide just because western culture is imploding.
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One of my favourite quotes has always been:
"Man's greatest weakness is his facade of strength. Woman's greatest strength is her facade of weakness."
Freiling 9y ago
What if I have a facade of charisma and dexterity
HumanSockPuppet 9y ago
Interesting quote. What's the source?
One thing we come to realize as we study TRP is that men are evolved to interact with the world - to carve their survival out of the raw wilderness through strength, ingenuity, and adaptability - and women are evolved to interact with men - to cunningly carve off a portion of the earnings of whatever man she can attach herself to.
So in nature's arena, men really are strong and women really are weak.
But change the setting and you change the scale. In the arena of "civilized politics", where strength matters less than cunning, suddenly the apparent strength of the sexes changes.
Women don't have to be strong, or fast, or creative, or adaptable to be successful in the genetic game. They need only be attractive and persuasive.
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bsutansalt 9y ago
Warren Farrell. It's from his book The Myth of Male Power
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Male_Power#Defining_male_power_and_powerlessness
agumonkey 9y ago
Nice way to summarize my internal feeling about differences between boys and girls. We were always seeking action, building stuff. Girls not as much. They can try (we were 80% boys, so some girls next door did try to play sports or hunt games with us, didn't last), they very rarely enjoy it as naturally as most boys do.
raredare359 9y ago
Wow, this response just blew my mind. It was short, sweet, and right to the point. For people who believe in evolution, reading something like that would make red pill concepts much easier for them to understand.
zyk0s 9y ago
Quote is from Warren Farell IIRC.
2comment 9y ago
That's sidebar worthy material right there.
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TwoThirteen 9y ago
Man + Facade of Strength = Weakness
Woman + Facade of Weakness = Strength
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Man + Facade of Weakness = Weakness
Woman + Facade of Strenght = Strength
Men + Real Strength = ?
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JohnnyChowder 9y ago
TRP
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deepthrill 9y ago
I disagree. Humans in general are not as strong as other animals. But why are we on top of the food chain? Our brains. Our cunningness. Women exemplify that trait. History has shown that cunningness overpowers physical strength. Within classes of humans in general, and between species. All except for one on one combat. And even then, cunningness can get others' assistance.
Purecorrupt 9y ago
If let's say the average man display and utilize their masculinity typically through sports, weightlifting, and generally staying in shape - do you think there may just be a lack of I guess emotional outlets for women? To where they are emotionally destructive similar to pent-up child that results in the child having an urge to scream or break something.
brotherjustincrowe 9y ago
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Is this why soap operas exist?
morphite65 9y ago
But what about SHOPPING!!1!
eBanker 9y ago
Troy... millions died over some women.
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a_scourge 9y ago
a made-up story. not the first, and not the last, example of feminist propaganda. message: "killing and horrible things are GOOD as long as it's pointless, irrational, and all centered around pedestalizing a woman"
movies today are the same: going on a rampage because of ONE-itis? Great! any other reason? evil (or at best perhaps slightly pathetic, in the case of Rambo I)
edit: the rambo sequels got a dose of ONE-itis. if i remember correctly.
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a_scourge 9y ago
you're totally right but:
it's probably totally made up. the geography (in the supposed anatolian location) doesn't make any sense at all. if it happened at all, it happened in north cambridgeshire and the gog magog hills, but whatever. i'm just saying that this is an old example of fairy tale and surprise surprise the fairy tale is feminist slant.
baaarf
PlanB_pedofile 9y ago
The bible has stories throughout of women causing conflict and fucking things up. Mostly through her bitchyness and nagging.
Shit the story of Joseph in Genesis is the earliest form of false rape accusation.
a_scourge 9y ago
yes there were a few places where it was not patriarchal enough. speaking of joseph, he was alpha as fuck. it's for good reason that the wife he ended up getting is given some mention. i know PUAs will say he should have gone for potiphar's wife but thats stupid. a real alpha doesn't hide and cower and cheat and get manipulated by hypergamous sluts like potiphars wife. a man keeps his honour intact as much as possible.
p.s. i think he might have been an INTJ sigma to be a little more precise
IllimitableMan 9y ago
Feminists frame men as violent neanderthals blah blah blah. But women on average are far more emotionally violent. It is they and their more pronounced cunning who have used men for proxy violence like pawns throughout history. Nothing is black and white. Kids think women are wonderful and men are evil, then as you get older you begin to see the reality is something closer to the complete opposite of that.
PlanB_pedofile 9y ago
From the shit I've seen on Facebook and just reading through history, women don't trust each other, destroy each other, steal from one another, and probably plot to kill or ruin each other.
Men will at least let shit go.
agumonkey 9y ago
boys fuck things up, girls are fucked up -- Louis CK
Could you define 'older' ? after puberty ? later ?
CSMastermind 9y ago
That about sums up feminism in one line.
tetsugakusei 9y ago
My sister did exactly that.
It makes sense when you understand women have an entirely separate ethical framework for life. Of course, men have a name for this alternative ethical framework: immorality.
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Gradutedskillender 9y ago
Can't even count the number of girls I know who believe whole heartedly that their "best guy friends" (men who want to fuck them but haven't) would kill some other guy at her say so for "hurting her". Like a man is her personal goon squad
M_rafay 9y ago
I cringe now because I've actually been the dumb fucking goon squad.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
You got played, many men have, such is the power of women.
brotherjustincrowe 9y ago
Had the displeasure of meeting a loudmouth bitch at a bar once who let one of her beta orbiters get shot because she couldn't act like a civilized human being. She learned nothing from the experience.
Never. Supplicate.
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The fuck?
Could you give more details?
brotherjustincrowe 9y ago
Basically, the gist of it was she couldn't keep her mouth shut, got into a fight, called on her white knights and one got shot. One of the other beta guys was outright crying about it. She, clearly, didn't give a fraction of a fuck and kept drunkenly picking fights since the message she got was "no matter how far in over your head you get, one of your orbiters will bail you out even at the cost of his own life, because of what a special snowflake you are."
She wouldn't have lived long enough to see her twentieth birthday if she'd been born with a penis.
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Wasn't one of the highest rated top posts in the last week or two literally saying all women are children?
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They're also a form of handicap that need their own division in sports. Doesn't change the fact that they're people.
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There have been a number of highly rated posts comparing women to children and recommending training women like dogs. Both of those are more or less good ideas.
Not sure where you're going with this.
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Gradutedskillender 9y ago
Yeah feminism claims to be so pro-strength but has this victim mentality. All I want from feminism is for politics to stay out of my vagina/uterus. Aside from that, I work in health research and am constantly hearing shit about women being under represented in STEM fields (my major was chemistry) and that we make less money... My department (pharmacology) is almost exactly 1/2 and 1/2 and I've seen the payroll paperwork, we all make the same based on our experience and education. I just don't see the value in most facets of feminism in the developed world Edit to add - feminism has also become fat activism by association. Also I don't want to be a feminist if it means an alliance with trans women who aren't biologically women. I have a bunch of conditions including precancerous cervical cells that means a hysterectomy by 35. A trans "woman" won't have that issue, or need an abortion, or birth control, so I fail to see where our interests align
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you shouldn't be a feminist because their actions are disgusting and not in anyone's best interests. But im probably asking too much, far too much, for you to be a little altruistic.
Gradutedskillender 9y ago
I care about humanity as a whole and conduct myself accordingly. I couldn't care less abou individual welfare. I think if everyone gave up the women's rights, gay rights, racial rights and just abided by basic human rights we wouldn't have a problem.
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All women are children. I have sex with women. Does that make me a psychological pedophile?
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redbaronn 9y ago
From what I remember in elementary school (I'm in college right now so the memory is still somewhat fresh), boys have always been reprimanded for instinctive male behaviour, (being physical, horsing around, being competitive) and girls praised for their natural behaviour (being not as active, following instructions, etc).
How many times do you remember girls getting into trouble with the teachers? Personally, I can recall more times that I've been in trouble than the number of times girls, in general, have. Girls at that age are rarely held accountable for anything. This is also partly due to the fact that teachers at this stage of education were mostly female.
The result is generations of boys believing that their natural tendencies are inherently bad and must suppress them in order to integrate well into society; as well as generations of girls who believe nothing is ever their fault. So naturally, boys grow up believing they are morally below their female counterparts and place them on a pedestal, while girls grow up not able to handle responsibility for their actions and blame their problems on boys.
This is extremely evident in the current wave of feminism that we see in social media and education, which is women constantly identifying themselves as the victims and claiming society, men, media to be responsible.
While feminism's slogan might have once been "feminism is the radical notion that women are people," it has far deviated from that. Although the current movement claims to be about equality, their pursuits now are mostly just trivial matters that give females even more privilege and deniability of responsibility. Largely because the actual noble causes like right to vote, issues about real discrimination and sexism were already fought for and won.
The phrase "women are people," interestingly, is a more suitable slogan for the red pill now because we acknowledge that women are just people like you and me.
I realize this is not revolutionary new information for the red pill. It really was just a way for me to organize my thoughts externally. Plus it might help some new comers
edit: spelling
brotherjustincrowe 9y ago
One of the most pernicious spins the blue-pill MSM puts on our message is the idea that AWALT is somehow said from a position of hate, like an angry virgin screaming "all women are bitches and whores!" rather than a statement made with shoulder-shrugging neutrality.
Could you imagine if this logic were extended to other situations? Like if I were called a dog-hater because I heard someone didn't earn their dog's respect and got bit, and my response was "it's a dog, what did you expect?"
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Subtletorious 9y ago
Because it clashes with the feminist ideology that gender is a social construct and both sexes are identical if it wasn't for those social constructs.
6of1halfdozenofother 9y ago
That whooshing sound over your head was not an airplane.
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To ask the question is to answer it.
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cocaine_face 9y ago
You should have added an /s
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cocaine_face 9y ago
A lot of guys here are used to only straight talk, so any sort of covert communication style is going to be missed. One time I saw a post where a man made a sarcastic joke to his wife, and people went on and on about how he was abusing her. Don't let it bother you.
JoeFarmer 9y ago
anarcho punk? the slogan sounds like some anti-product lyrics
JayViceroy 9y ago
That should be the new slogan of the sub:
"The Red Pill is the radical notion that men are people."
Then sit back and watch the 2XC wheel spin at a million RPMs lol
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Transmigratory 9y ago
Strange how a lot of 2XCers visit this sub to moan about the content in their sub.
Women liking things which make them feel! XD
RectalRagnarok 9y ago
That's actually funny in a way. A sub full of women's main content is talking about the content on other subs.
Transmigratory 9y ago
Women love to gossip about things in their out-group. It is just the way they are.
Ausrp 9y ago
Good way to look at it I reckon OP. Succinctly put: A mans capacity for violence + manipulation = A woman's capacity for violence + manipulation.
Women just have less capacity for violence.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
This is why DT men do so well. She can't outmatch him. He can beat her at a game she can't play, as well as the game she does play. Superiority = tingles. Women love psychopaths.
Johnny10toes 9y ago
Which is why try works so well. It puts the clueless into the clued in category. But this still isn't enough. A man must then act. Put into practice what he has learned. Even that isn't enough to match the natural, the learned isn't intuitive and must learn from his inevitable mistakes.
IllimitableMan 9y ago
You can reach the skill of a natural once you reach a level of "conscious competence" however, and I must stress this emphatically it will take many years and prolonged exposure to naturals to effectively emulate the relevant behaviours, to see a shift in your brain chemistry/way of thinking that is conducive to gaining the same kind of abilities that the natural has. That is to say, internalising certain ways of being akin to the DT so it is a natural effortlessly executed instinct (despite not being born with the ability) takes a long time. It is possible, it's just not probable. Most people will thus not "become DT" but be "pseudo-DT" or simply borrow certain abstract ideas/strategies that DTs use, eg: the 48 laws of power.
One must also realise there's a lot of nuance within the spectrum of DT traits and any two different psychopaths can manifest their traits very differently. There are "different psychopathic styles." You have the highly impulsive dysfunctional, the unintelligent, the near uncontrollably violent, the mentally violent but physical pacifist, the instrumentally violent, the hyper-intelligent, the BPDs (I personally consider them to be low-functioning DTs due to high impulsivity, histrionics and low self-control,) and then there are the non-impulsive thrill seekers who utilise impulse only to be unpredictable for tactical reasons.
So you see, there's a fuck ton of nuance in the psychopathic basket case. The DT can be generalised, but unlike TRP those generalisations miss out a lot of important, relevant data. Simply, DTs are more complex and nuanced than women, so they are harder to generalise. No amount of reading will emulate/replace interactions/relationships with natural DTs. Reading gives you awareness these people even exist, and allows you to identify particular elements/understand certain behaviours, but it gives you no behavioural mastery akin to what you're reading. A book can't make you DT, only experience can. A book can just give you a shove in the right direction and help you make sense out of what you've experienced when dealing with these kinds of people. Books assign labels, instructions/methods for mastery as well as reasons for phenomenon/behaviour, they won't "make you the object of your study." Books are supplementary, but they're not enough in and of themselves.
The most important bit of information anyone should internalise about DTs is that DTs will shit test the fuck out of you. You need to be able to hold frame like a boss to not have them ruin you/discard you. Which is why, like I say, despite it being possible, it's largely improbable that most will reach that level of conscious competence. DTs have a low fear response so they push boundaries and will press all your buttons, if you can't hold frame/pass their bluffs (eg: show indifference to threats or faux demonstrations of physical violence - depends on their "psychopathic type") then they will disrespect you/not cooperate with you. Most people aren't cut out for learning from/cooperating with DTs. Though if you meet what Prof. Kevin Dutton calls a "benevolent psychopath" you may be in luck, albeit, they are probably the rarest psychopathic archetype of them all. If you meet one and they like you, you're lucky, you can learn a lot from them. Probably some of the most effective and talented people in the world. Not to mention they won't violate your mental sovereignty unless you pose a threat (unlike other psychopathic types who are far more needlessly predatory and thus a bigger risk to your self-preservation.)
acorn_dick 9y ago
Sorry, but what is DT?
onenifty 9y ago
Dark Triad
IllimitableMan 9y ago
DT = dark triad.
More info here:
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johnnight 9y ago
This is very interesting. Can you ask him to write about it?
nzgs 9y ago
"Feminism is the radical notion that women are people" is just typical of the Orwellian doublethink favoured by the Left. Obfuscating the true meanings of words behind political correctness.
paracog 9y ago
The insult in it is the implication that patriarchal society hasn't historically considered women as people. Passive slander, from masters.
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Socially left, yes. Economically left, no.
confuseacatlmtd 9y ago
Shut up you Muslim loving socialist! The fact that you think the right can obfuscate the true meaning of words too just shows your sense of entitlement!
Bwhitty23 9y ago
I agree.with you man but liberals are not welcome here so I would advise not to say you are.
Nantafiria 9y ago
Why would you say that? You're not wrong in saying that (American) liberalism gets a lot of flak on TRP, but why should he stay quiet?
Bwhitty23 9y ago
Look at the comment the guy before me left. That is the typical response you could expect. If he doesn't care then awesome more power to him but I would get annoyed and just not mention it.
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Jimmy_Big_Nuts 9y ago
You're an idiot. How do expect to ever win if you draw lines to exclude people from the truth. You sound like a slack-jawed redneck.
Bwhitty23 9y ago
Wow I didn't see how bad that came off. I agree with the guy I responded to but I've seen nothing but hate for liberals here so I was saying that if he doesn't like the comments like that the guy below me then he should probably refrain from mentioning he is a liberal. Some of those slack-jawed rednecks are here. Also I'm a liberal so in no way am I against this guy just telling him how it may not be a good idea here.
trplurker 9y ago
That's because in the USA liberalism and progressiveism (socialism / communism / marxism) has been mixed together into a single political ideology despite liberalism being anathema to any progressive ideology.
Liberalism's core belief is maximum personal freedom and personal responsibility, any socialist system would, by definition, require the extreme restricting of those for the benefit of the whole system. We can't have people making their own decisions and taking control over their lives because they would pursue their own agenda and attempt acquisition of personal wealth / property in order to better their station in life.
Anyhow TRP doesn't have a prescribed political ideology. Since it focuses on seeing reality for what it is instead of what we want it to be, anything that obfuscates reality or attempts to force doubelspeak / political correctness (cultural marxism) down our throats will be met with hostility.
Truthfully it would be mentally impossible to be politically progressive and still embrace TRP principles. Something would have to give or cognitive dissonance would set it.
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6of1halfdozenofother 9y ago
Just wrong. Orwell despised the Soviets. Most British and American socialists and communists did after Stalin signed the treaty with Hitler. But they didn't stop being leftists.
whatever1914 9y ago
Orwell was a socialist and a supporter of the anarchist revolutionaries in Spain. He wrote a book called Homage to Catalonia where he talked about his experiences in anarchist Catalonia which was one of the most defining experiences in his life when it came to his political beliefs. Here's a quote from his essay "Why I Write":
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it."
rpkarma 9y ago
The way I see it, totalitarianism is something that can come from any political side, so we must be on guard at all times. Currently, leftism holds sway over the modern culture, so that's where we must look for it now. But the pendulum will swing, as it always does, and a new threat will emerge.
RPSigmaStigma 9y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_and_the_Unicorn:_Socialism_and_the_English_Genius
SweetiePieJonas 9y ago
[No, absolutely not]( http://www.e-ir.info/2012/08/28/wrong-about-orwell-being-on-the-right/ ). Here's Orwell, writing in 1946:
Quit trying to steal our people, rightists. Martin Luther King isn't yours, either.
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6of1halfdozenofother 9y ago
This is also wrong. Totalitarianism is not on the Left/Right spectrum at all. Neither is Libertarianism either. Those are on a state control spectrum which is totally separate from the economic or social freedom spectrum (which is what Left/Right refers to).
You really need to read an actual political science book before posting.
SweetiePieJonas 9y ago
The libertarian/totalitarian scale is orthogonal to the left/right scale. Totalitarian systems can be rightist, like Fascism or Islamism, or leftist, like Stalinism or Maoism.
Jimmy_Big_Nuts 9y ago
You discredited yourself son. No rightwing totalitarianism? No lefty libitarians? Even though that was the original type before Americans hijacked the meaning and made the term synonymous with the right. Conservatives weren't always neolib. There are more than one axis used to plot political/economic stances for a good reason.
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Jimmy_Big_Nuts 9y ago
Poor comprehension skills.
SelfishStoic 9y ago
Lol if you need to resort to ad hominem attacks you are clearly at a loss. My comprehension skills are anything but. You assume that because my analysis results in such a basic structure it must then be wrong and ignore my position. I merely simplified all the variations you experience, think system of equations and how complicated Einstein's formulas were before he got down to E=mc^2. The proof you need to get to that point is massive, but his answer is simple and correct. If you can't simplify complex concepts by finding connections, your comprehension skills or lacking. Being able to see all the deviations and not sort them out is an inability to understand.
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Based on experience, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree.
I think it's important to consider in these perspectives the Beautiful Ones experiment - a society of excess and unrestriction on the worst part of the feminine nature leads to an exasperated level of their tendencies i.e. single motherhood and mistreatment of their young
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the operative word was capacity, not intent
alfred_e_nooman 9y ago
Saying that women are people implies that they are capable of having basic morals and empathy. They are biologically driven to serve themselves and any perception of empathy is easily proven to be ultimately self-serving.
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darthcamronius 9y ago
This is the problem with my peers at school. Some of them understand that I want true equality and call myself a gender egalitarian, but what they don't realise is that feminism doesn't advocate for the rights of all humans; just women.
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OffroadDawg 9y ago
I grew up in western Massachusetts... Home of ultra liberal womens colleges and the town of Northampton which has a large lesbian population. It wasn't a bad place to grow up but I definitely felt I was at a disadvantage for being a white male.
The entire area has been overdosing on the blue pill.
newzenhabits 9y ago
My friend works at Ahmerst high school and every year there is an exercise where they go around the room and see who is the most privileged. I don't know if the exercise only contains faculty or students too, but I don't know how I would deal with that situation myself if I had to sit down and do it in an institutionalized environment.
0xdada 9y ago
Don't complain, win.
OffroadDawg 9y ago
Yes sir, I longer live in that area and have a better job.
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Politely ask this commenter for more details rather than make unhelpful comments svp.
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IllimitableMan 9y ago
Black guy move is to play the race card when spinning the victim angle. When women hate you for being a man and racist minorities hate you for being white, what SJW card you gonna pull out of your ass? Diddly squat, because everyone is convinced you're the cause of their problems and that you're so evil/bad/wrong that you can't possibly be a victim, even if you are unfairly treated because everyone around you hates white men (he's racist! he's a misogynist! etc.)
May be white men running the country, but the average white man has fuck all power in the game. White man at the top and average trailer trash eminem level white man are worlds apart. White man aint got no card he can pull outta his ass that will get him support. White man better just stfu or walk away. Apologising only ever make things worse. Ever seen a white man apologise for men to women or apologise to blacks for "what them whites did in slavery?" they get fucking laughed at. It's a sick game. People hate white men so much, because they jealous, got an inferiority complex etc, but they can't be openly racist so they veil their hatred through accusations. If they black and they hate whites, they call you a racist, because they racist. If they female and they hate men, they call you a misogynist, because they're misandrists. It's fucking projection. A lot of blacks I met are some racist ass motherfuckers. Same goes for whites. Nobody got the moral high ground with that shit. You know what I find funny is how african immigrant blacks hate african americans for constantly playing the victim. Same colour, same genetics, different mentality. Them lesbians would have hated any man, esp. blacks because "he's a thug!" but white men? "patriarchy!" they ain't got love for men period.
Ah, gotta love modern day segregation. Personally I think black men and white men have more similarities between them than women of any race, but that's just me. Some people are pretty damn racist. Most of us are only slightly racist. In my opinion everyone is racist, because everyone favours their own race the most. When someone says "I'm not racist" I know them to be a fucking liar straightaway. Don't tell me you don't feel more comfortable around your own, or favour your own, everyone does. It's part of our animal instinct. To be tribal/preserve genes/be suspicious of people who look so differently from you. As long as you don't go all KKK and start hating on others/fucking them up because of that instinct, then shit's cool.
iluminatiNYC 9y ago
I agree with that. I'm more concerned about people with power than "White Men". The dude in the trailer park has more in common with me than someone who is a corporate CEO or some high-ranking politician.
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IllimitableMan 9y ago
I'd welcome a good meditation post on TRP.
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IllimitableMan 9y ago
Immensely interesting.
I could help you write it, if you like.
RedPillDad 9y ago
Emotions are a crude, dirty bomb - they can get the job done quickly, but are very messy. They're basically action signals from the primitive brain designed to drive decisions. And though their potency is impressive, they lack precision.
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They are people. Weaker, less intelligent, emotionally volatile people.
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Can the feminists at least fucking admit they're weaker and less coordinated though? I mean come on, high school soccer players would destroy Women's Team USA. I've actually argued with people on reddit that men are physically stronger and superior. Like what the fuck, how delusion ARE YOU?!
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Lol. I have too. I even pointed out that the best female fighter in the UFC was a million times inferior to folks like Jon Jones or Weidman or Cain Velasquez. The females fear fighting even Shemales like Fallon Fox. These are facts not opinions. All I got in response was that I was wrong and old fashioned to think women were weaker. And some white knight cunts telling me I was wrong 'because women are more flexible'.
Gravityflexo 9y ago
It's been used for thousands of years abd it's still use in some of the greatest countries we now have on earth...Saudi Arabia, drc, Afghanistan...where women still know their place, it's why they are the counties progressing the world
astheworldfaps 9y ago
Recently I came to pretty much the same realization: It's TRP that finally took women off the pedestal for me.
WeCantHaveFun 9y ago
They're servants if used properly.
LifeAtPeace 9y ago
This is the truth. Although you don't say it directly, they are servants to serve you and they will be happy to do that.
Stopher 9y ago
When you think about it, TRP is totally femminist. It's saying womeb are just like men and have as much power. Oh the horror!
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PM_Me_Your_Kitchen 9y ago
Somehow you are confusing giving women moral agency with misogyny. Not giving women moral agency is misogynistic because it is an implicit statement that women are on the same level as children and the mentally handicapped. TheRedPill community understands that women have moral agency. As a result they deserve to be held accountable for their actions in the same way men are. TheRedPill understands that most of society does not share this belief and therefore works to understand how to thrive in spite of the numerous and pervasive ills caused by society putting women on a pedestal and striping them of moral agency.
Trail_of_Jeers 9y ago
What do you mean woman-hating, exactly?