Here are the strategies that have allowed me (30 years old, 5'9", 280 lbs man) to finally get a small rotation going using online dating.
Because of my weight, Tinder is a no-go. If you are a man who looks hot in his pictures, go for it. For me, Tinder would just be a validation machine for females and I would get nothing.
My strategy is to lure in women who might be looking for a relationship and then win them over with my tight texting game, strong frame, and good sex.
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Pictures. This is the number one thing. This is the bait (same for women- we choose them based on their pictures too). In my profile, I never say "I like adventures" or "climbing mountains" "beach bonfires" ... as a student of TRP, I know to always demonstrate, never explicate ... so I have pictures of me doing cool shit with cool people at cool places. I of course use pictures that are as flattering as possible. My photos demonstrate that I am financially stable (broke guys don't party in Ibiza), high-status (low status guys are not picked to be groomsmen), preselected (creeps dont have beautiful women laughing and hanging on to them), and masculine (yea that is me chopping wood with my arm veins bulging).
- Texting. Once you match with a chick, texting game becomes the most important. The key with texting is to keep it short, text her less frequently than she texts you, and be decisive but not thirsty. Also never under any circumstances do I use smiley face or emojis. I start by asking a question about something specific in her profile or pictures. Then, however long she takes to respond, I wait 1.5X - 2X as long to text back. Chicks online are accustomed to guys being very thirsty and jumping on them the moment they show interest. If you can resist the urge and hold back and wait, it builds up tension (does he even like me??) and makes you seem high value. But it is important to calibrate. Pace yourself 1 step behind her, sometimes 2 steps to throw her off. Be inconsistent. What I've noticed is that after only a few days, if your questions/ answers were good and you paced yourself slightly behind her, she becomes actually interested. You can tell the moment it happens because she will send a really long message or a couple messages in a row. Respond to it quickly (to show her that you are willing to invest if she is) and then if she messages right back say "Hey XYZ let's continue this conversation in person over drinks. What's your number?" and then just go from there.
After that it is just standard TRP. The most common pitfalls are texting too frequently, sending messages that are too long (always keep it shorter than hers), seeking validation, and not getting off the app once she has shown interest. You need to make a move, invite her for drinks, and get her number. Resist the urge to take this shot until she demonstrates her strong interest by how she is texting you (she will start to validate herself to you which is a dead giveaway). But once she does, strike when the iron is hot and demonstrate your decisiveness.
Now I am sure there are guys here who can do this 100X better, faster, and more efficiently than me. As a big fat guy however, I have found these strategies to be effective for me.
But Chaz, won't she see you as a beta provider?
Yea, so what? It's called bait. By the second date (sometimes 3rd) she will give up her pussy trying to lock down your commitment. Is she gonna get it? Fuck no. Just a dose of dick and an uber ride home.
Remember: she is still a woman. She gets horny and she has needs, even when she is looking for a beta provider. Even the most buttoned down, prudish looking girl is a slut waiting to be let off the leash. She wants to be opened up sexually and dicked down by a strong, masculine man.
Oblige her.
UpperRedSide 5y ago
Good pics are such a must!
You should try to avoid phone cameras, as they are wide angle lenses, which distort your face. (Skewing, as it's called in photography, is when the bodypart nearest the camera takes presidency and everything else slopes away from it.) Additionally, you must convey a level of approachability, as well a sense of adventure.
I'm taller than average and easily model level attractive. You can view proof from the intensely flattering comments I received on a post I made in the Skincare Addiction subreddit (from a separate account, don't get doxxed.) https://imgur.com/a/7hbCXlW.
However, I didn't do half as good with Tinder as I expected on account of my photo choices. Phone shots, no people, no hobbies, just me. I got matches. Hot ones too, but not that many and nothing ever came of them.
Btw, posting the SCA comments was not meant to be a brag. I did thoroughly enjoy the attention but I posted them to show that a guy less attractive than you is probably taking all of your Tinder dates because he knows how to play the game.
Luckyluke23 5y ago
as someone who is 96kgs and has NO rotation of girls. can i pm you for coaching??
great post dude I did learn a lot from it. I have stayed away from tinder. ( and pof) since it didn't work for me. though recently I have lost 10 kgs and am not
maybe i should give it ago.
Jaycee108 5y ago
Fuckboys mess with a girl's head.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Dude -- use some of your resources to lose weight. Being fat is a major issue for most women. I know I used to weigh over 300 pounds. If you're doing this well at 280 just imagine how well you'd be doing at 180.
Andgelyo 5y ago
Can confirm. I'm around OP's height (5'9) and currently 188lbs. THE MOST IOIs i've gotten was when i was 180lbs flat wearing a maroon v neck shirt and sweat pants with basketball shoes with my sidepart hairstyle. OP lose the fucking weight so you don't have to do this manipulating shit just to get sex. Improve your health, fat nigga. Because when your future wife/ltr will complain of you huffing and puffing, me or Chad will be lasting all night with her.
Ifuckdurwifen1gga 5y ago
Definitely upvoted for "improve your health fat nigga"
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mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
My advice: Stop being a fatass and lose weight. Then you won't have to rely on so many gimmicks and your quality of women you can pull will increase exponentially.
Or you can continue being a fatass and settle for the table scraps while having to put in more work to win over said table scraps than an in shape man puts in to get the cream of the crop
nebder 5y ago
There’s another perspective. Don’t wait till you make it to start trying
The women I fucked & gamed when I was losing weight make me shudder now. I harpooned some landwhales and snagged enough 4s to last a lifetime. I was still fucking & sharpening the saw. Wouldn’t do it again, glad I did it.
troutmask96 5y ago
Being a fatass and spinning plates aren't binary choices. Sure, OP could go monk mode for a year until he reaches his target weight, but why not pop a little pussy along the way?
oytrp 5y ago
pop a little is one thing, but it sounds like OP spends a significant amount of time gaming these ugly chicks.
DesperateTomato 5y ago
You must be a big fat good looking dude! :D
I'm still on the "good pics" part, since I'm a solid 3/10.
IncomeByEtnicity 5y ago
Don't sell yourself short. If Chaz THUNDER GUT can do it....
chazthundergut 5y ago
I do work out every morning, so I am fat but pretty thick. Solid. Tight.
I am balding so I shaved my head down to zero and grew out a big bushy beard.
party_next_door 5y ago
Keep me updated on your progress
excelwithexcel 5y ago
Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
IncomeByEtnicity 5y ago
5'7" 350 lbs, bald full bearded THUNDER GUT. Could Red Pill ever ask for a better spokesperson?
Razkolol 5y ago
He's right on the "make them feel like they might get commitment part" it's exactly the same game that women play to keep betas around "make them feel like they might get sex one day". Getting shredded helps a ton on online game, go full keto 10% carbs + intermittent fasting for a few months if you already have decent gains your whole upper body will look like a veiny dick.
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Straight up... when you're on keto and muscular as fuck it should be illegal to take your shirt off in public.. its literally a Weapon of Ass Destruction.. the shit president Bush was looking for back when the towelheads flew a plane into the wtc. Bruh when you have a really good looking upper body it is a second penis. Its much more sexual than anyone elses body nearby and attracts instant attention. Its legit a 2nd cock.
KarmicPrism 5y ago
LPT: Lift daily to erect the second cock.
chazthundergut 5y ago
This is an angle I don't see covered much in TRP, which I will probably make a post on in the future.
TRP always recommends don't show provider signs because then she will treat you like beta bucks
But how do women treat beta bucks? They date them, hook up with them (expecting them to be sexual novices who fall head over heels for the first chick willing to lick his balls), and then trap them into commitment and eventually marriage.
But what if you don't commit? What if you fuck them like you would any slut, and keep stringing them along as they keep giving up their pussy trying to lock down your commitment?
I've found this to be a very effective game for a guy who isn't physically attractive but has an attractive lifestyle. Yes, they will treat you like a Beta Bucks. Do you let the chick dictate your role? No. You dick her down like the man you are and call that chick an uber. Next.
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Can confirm this works. And lifting works even better.
GuruDev1000 5y ago
If you look at /u/ChazThunderGut's history, 2 years back he was obese and had to lose his virginity to whores. Considering now he's muscular and fat and has a small rotation of plates, I think he's awesome for the kind of content he provides.
OP, I think you should talk more about the role meditation has played for you. You made a small comment about it on /u/Heathcliff--'s Meditations post. Obviously, it's your frame and calm planning that's playing a huge role in your sexual success and negating your physical drawbacks.
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Great post. I'm not even fat and I still found this advice useful
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chazthundergut 5y ago
I agree with you, and I am actively losing weight (40 down, 100 to go)
In the meantime, I still like having my dick sucked. This is one of the strategies I have used to make it happen. Do with it what you will.
Sendmebobs 5y ago
Safety is number 1 priority.
IncomeByEtnicity 5y ago
Here, Have a like for Crazy Russian Hacker.
Sendmebobs 5y ago
Thank you. Didn't know if anyone would get the reference.
KarmicPrism 5y ago
Got it here as well ol chap! Get yer goggles
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mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Exactly what is wrong with some TRP posters.
The overall message I got from this post? "Hey guys its OK to be fat, nothing wrong with it and here is how you succeed while being fat".
Fuck that shit. TRP isnt the place for such garbage. Take it to the fat acceptance subs. Being fat has no place in sexual strategy.
GuruDev1000 5y ago
He's not telling you that being fat helped him get laid. He's telling you how he gets laid in spite of being fat. TRP is about sexual strategy, isn't it?
chazthundergut 5y ago
Dude you sound salty. Did a big fat guy fuck your bitch?
Don't take it personally. It was only your turn anyways.
oytrp 5y ago
I thought fat dudes were supposed to be jolly?
Take the criticism, stop being a bitch.
DesperateTomato 5y ago
"Broke guys don't party in Ibiza"
Yes they do. Most people there (mainly Germans and British) are low income...
askmrcia 5y ago
Lol same with Vegas. But I think op means if you're not from Europe then going over to Ibiza to party means you have some nice cash.
Just do what my buddy do. Buy a green screen and crop yourself in extravagant places. Works for him
IncomeByEtnicity 5y ago
Agreed. It is the cheapest ticket destination from any airport in Europe. I wanted to make a Class-ist joke about that. Who knows he probably lives in a ghetto, where he is high class because he is not a refugee and has a passport.
But OP is also, on top of all of those great things, a Fat Ass! So I went for the low hanging fruit. :) Imagine going on your "high class vacation" to Ibiza on a budget carrier with tiny seats, and this fat ass inches along the aisle Sideways and sits next to you. HAHAHAHA
chazthundergut 5y ago
I love how you guys are all excited about Ibiza being a low-class place, as if that would rattle me. If only you saw the picture I use and all the comments I've gotten on it.
But yea Ibiza is for bums! OP is fat and he sucks! Hehe.
gorebwn 5y ago
This is a perfect example of the idea that you only need 2/3 to smash pussy - Social Status, Success. Sex Appeal. You're covered homie. Good write up.
drty_pr 5y ago
Solid advice for the gravity challenged contributors.
BillyBones8 5y ago
> 5'9"
> gravity challenged
Fuck off dude
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ReturningSpider 5y ago
You mean exceptionally gravitationally gifted
TheTrenTrannyTrain 5y ago
Draw the sloots in with his gravitational pull.
IncomeByEtnicity 5y ago
OP's name is Chaz THUNDER GUT.
Gr0o0vy 5y ago
spilled my lean body shake over this
OfficerWade 5y ago
“As a white man, demographic matters!!”
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smileceo 5y ago
Chaz - you have shared some valid content and I am sure that you have consolidated some valuable strategies considering your actual weight limitations.
Now imagine what you can do if you can sum up to those skills being fit :-) that you be rock solid game.
I had a period on my life where my audition was reduced to 80% for about 6 months. I developed excepcional observation skills during that period. When I got my audition got back, my observation skills stayed :)
Ps: I have been able to loose 70kg (154 pounds) in 36 months - without surgery. Dm if you need some hints or motivation boost.
chazthundergut 5y ago
Thanks dude. I agree with you- I'm in the process of losing weight. This post was just about the type of strategies that might help a fat TRPer get laid from dating apps.
Good luck boys!
superyute 5y ago
excellent writing in your post man. was a pleasant read
do you do copywriting or something similar by chance?
chazthundergut 5y ago
I can't go into details but creative writing is part of how I make my living. Thanks for the compliment though I appreciate it!
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chazthundergut 5y ago
I lift like a madman. But I eat like a madman too.
ThePropaganda 5y ago
Bro I weighed 260 and lost 80lbs. You can do it! Not for them, but for you. It's great fitting into 34 jeans, but even better is proving to yourself you have the power and discipline to take control of your life and overcome any challenge.
If you want to game pussy, that's your call. I just want to encourage you that life has addt'l benefits @ normal weight (or at least close to normal)
chazthundergut 5y ago
Thanks dude. 40 down, 100 to go. It is a very slow grind for me
ThePropaganda 5y ago
Just keep rockin it. I had the luxury of being able to spend 3-4 hrs per day @ gym. If you lost 40 already you're doing something right. Just keep going, keep learning and you will reach your goal.
Are you doing keto and working out?
oytrp 5y ago
Maybe this is worth it for you fat dudes out there. But for anyone with decent SMV this is just a waste of time.
literally days of messages to just maybe go on a date. Spend your time lifting, reading, anything of value.
clausternn 5y ago
Or instead of jumping through all these hoops you could just lose weight.
KnightestKnightPeter 5y ago
Or you can do both :) This advice is something that applies to uglies and normals too.
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Fuck that shit and it's a shame this got upvoted.
Fat acceptance subreddits are the place for that.
Being in shape and fit is a core TRP tentpole. Being fat has no place in TRP.
KnightestKnightPeter 5y ago
Because you have to be jacked and rich before you start slaying pussy, right?
Cut the dogma. If a noob is a lardass, he should be applying TRP immediately, which means while he's still losing weight. Which then means, he should own being a fat fuck while he's still a fat fuck, get laid, and progressively lose fat and go for his goals while he's doing so.
chazthundergut 5y ago
Correct. This wasn't a post about weight loss. It was a post about the strategies I use to get pussy. Which I thought was the whole point of TRP.
Yea I'm actively losing weight and won't stop till I reach my goal. But even if I wasn't, it doesn't matter. This is sexual strategy not The View
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Fair enough but that doesn't mean make this post. All it's going to do is encourage fatties around here to stay fat.
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chazthundergut 5y ago
You sound salty too. Was your chick also fucked by a big fat guy?
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VoxVirilis 5y ago
Oh, what a quality contribution. /s
That fact that OP is here makes it a good bet that he's working on losing weight. So while he's on his weight loss journey he should do what?
Not hone his game?
Not practice pick-up?
Not experiment and find successful strategies?
Not share those successes with the community?
superyute 5y ago
exactly.
this comment section reeks of pre-pubescent nonsense.
instead of absorbing and filtering the material for what it is, OP is being chastised for his...weight? what
oytrp 5y ago
What's a better use of his time?
Fucking HB5s? or working on himself?
He's spending days texting these girls and then going on a minimum of 3 dates before he even whiffs pussy. That's a lot of hours in the gym/on the treadmill.
KarmicPrism 5y ago
You dont even know what his gym schedule is my bro. You're grasping at air here and making a fool of yourself in front of everyone here assuming shit. He can fuck whoever, the nigga's happy af with a fat stomach and a fat dick apparently. Don't you got some gym to be at instead of wasting your valuable time rubbing your pussy all over the place?
oytrp 5y ago
I know he's still a fat piece of shit after working out for over a year. So I know it's not good enough. This body shaming got you riled up I see.
KarmicPrism 5y ago
It's the lack of common sense In your statement- one that you have repeatedly posted. He should get in the gym that's for sure. But that has nothing to do with him posting a field report here claiming success after TRP, when he previously didn't have any. In your eyes, Is TRP a "no recovering fat guys allowed" concept? He mentioned he's going to the gym after reading TRP. He began working in the field, hes seeing success with the 'program', and Continuing to further better himself, on and off the field. Why is your pussy so dry about that?
oytrp 5y ago
I explained my reasoning pretty clearly.
He's putting in a lot of effort for little return. Hours swiping right, Hours messaging, and Hours going on at least 3 dates before getting laid...
And his prize? Some HB5 you wouldn't fuck if they paid you.
He's been working out for a year and has made little to no progress. Tell me, where would he be if he went monk mode and really lifted and dieted? He would be banging HB7s with ease months ago.
Fucking all the 4s and 5s in the world isn't going to help him fuck 8s and 9s.
KarmicPrism 5y ago
What your writing make sense assuming he's been neglecting his lifts. I can't really argue with that logic.
GuruDev1000 5y ago
If you look at his history, 2 years back he was obese and lost his virginity to whores. Considering now he's muscularly fat and has a small rotation of plates, I think he's worthy of listening to.
oytrp 5y ago
He's still obese.
So unless he was 500lbs, 2 years is enough time to get in great shape even at 280. Maybe he's spending too much time gaming HB5s and not enough time in the gym.
RedPill115 5y ago
That is the dumbest shit I've ever read on trp. "What are you doing getting laid when you could be in the gym bro?".
oytrp 5y ago
If you don't care about who you fuck then just go gay, you can get laid on the subway.
If you want to bang someone that weighs less than you and doesn't have facial hair, maybe wait and work on yourself until you're ready to play.
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oytrp 5y ago
Picking fatties up off the floor isn't practicing game.
Want to hit in the big leagues? Practice hitting 95 mph fastballs, Not soft toss.
KarmicPrism 5y ago
Now you're talking. I get your concept and it's rock solid. I get you now. However, your delivery can use some work, but that's neither here nor there. ????
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chazthundergut 5y ago
Yes. Everything I listed is a giant red flag to women. I openly flaunt the fact that I have resources and a very cool social life.
randomTATRP 5y ago
Why? Bragging? I thought IDGAF about other peoples opinions is a good way to go.
Who do they match with?
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chazthundergut 5y ago
Who knows why? I didnt make bitches act like this.
Judge women according to their actions and not their words.
randomTATRP 5y ago
??????
I've never seen guys who took mirror selfies not get pussy, what the actual fuck?
chazthundergut 5y ago
Yea that's my point.
And I've never seen a chick who didnt claim that shirtless mirror selfies were a red flag.
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I entirely disagree about the shirtless pics.
I used Tinder for a year. Did pretty well with it. I lift hard. You could tell in my pics that I was fit.
A couple of my buddies wanted to see what would happen if I added a shirtless mirror selfie. They begged me to put one up for probably 2 months.
Immediately my matches increased probably 4x or 5x and the girls were all 2 to 3 points higher.
I never took the mirror selfie down.
Best part: 50% of the girls I match with say 'if you have a shirtless mirror selfie, swipe left!!'
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chazthundergut 5y ago
Actually you proved my point exactly.
Go ask a chick if she matches with gym bros who post shirtless mirror selfies. They will all say it's a "red flag" and they won't match with him. Just like the "red flags" in my photos that flaunt my money and status.
So yea, I agree with you and that is my point. Never listen to what they say. Listen to what they do
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Ohhhh duh I understand..
What I said does support your point
inevitableworkout 5y ago
The more you argue with this troll trying to get his approval the less credible you look for being this alpha male you're saying you are
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chazthundergut 5y ago
Also why would I lie about my stats? The shorter and fatter I am, the more impressive my results would be.
But I don't really care. I know there are some fat TRPers out here, and I hope one of them reads this post and takes a shot and gets laid.
Sorry I got sand in your vagina I can have that effect on people sometimes (especially chicks)
Good luck dude!
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chazthundergut 5y ago
You know when you squeeze a girls boob... and it feels like... a bag of sand?
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chazthundergut 5y ago
No I'm saying that when a chick says "that's a red flag, I'd never date a guy who does XYZ" what she really means is "that's the type of guy I like"
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chazthundergut 5y ago
Boy this really got under your skin didn't it. What was his name?
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chazthundergut 5y ago
You should be thanking me then! Laughter is good for you dude let it out :)
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-uftw- 5y ago
Funny, you're so obsessed with TRP you've got our balls so far down your throat, and yet you're still incapable of making a decent parody of a redpiller. Do yourself a service and go back posting your SJW bs on your SJW reddits. And don't let the door hit you on your way out.
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I don’t think you understand women. Douche.. fuckboy.. arrogant = ALPHA
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new_alpha 5y ago
There is a population for everything and it depends on how you manage the character after she likes you. Of course women that do consider these things red flags wouldn’t even swipe right. So tinder is the pre-selection
And as Rollo would say, everyone has some kind of game
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TheRedPike 5y ago
Don't be a dick.
Robin2Fast2Furious 5y ago
I’m 6’1 and I weight 180lbs. At most I ever weighed 200lbs. I can’t imagine how American people get so big. I mean I know how and why because of [insert excuse about diet, lifestyle, etc.].
ovrload 5y ago
6’1 180lbs is good. You’re healthy and lean that’s all that matters