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getrealmate_ 6y ago
I'm still having a really hard time getting past oneitis and getting back to focusing on me/my mission. I'm trying to set up dates as often as possible, hitting the gym, putting more effort into my job and hanging out with people as often as possible. Still, I think about her all the time, check her social media, think about hypothetical situations, what ifs... I'm pretty much depressed and can't get over her. I should have turned her into a gf when I had the chance. I know I sound like a bitch. Tbh I feel like one
megamanxtc 6y ago
How do you stay motivated - and actually follow through with your motivations?
At work, I'll tell myself I'm going to do this, learn this new skill, hit up the gym, and just become better in some way.
Then the work day ends, I go home, plop down on the couch with a beer and just don't feel like doing any of it.
What methods have you found to follow through with your ambitions at the end of the day?
canadianmooserancher 6y ago
I try and combine them. Going to the gym? Sometimes I'll have a joint outside and then jump in. Try to combine happy items with chore items. I love the gym, but i am as lazy as any other new years resolutors
bobfrompinecreek 6y ago
I've had an actual abundance (not just a fake mentality) and still found myself catching feelings when the better/hotter ones were drifting away and couldn't solely rely on the fallbacks for cushion. thoughts?
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BlueEyezzz 6y ago
In my opinion that's pretty normal. Especially when you come from a BP mentality in the past, this will sneak in sometimes. Don't worry about it. My advice is: own the feeling, acknowledge that it's there, tell yourself "thanks for the feeling. I know it's not very helpful, but I can't help it that it's there" (practice from ACT, got it from the book "The Happiness Trap"). After that, move on. It takes some practice, but it will make you much more relaxed.
By acknowledging that the feeling is there, that you have no control over it, but it's your responsibility how you deal with it, that feeling is gone before you know it.
canadianmooserancher 6y ago
Happiness trap? I'll take a peak. Thank you sir
purple_nose_rudolph 6y ago
Nah , a blow job and dinner will do just fine thank you very mutch
chocolatex 6y ago
If you're in an LTR and since you're always assuming AWALT, does that mean to also assume at all times she is unfaithful? Or does it mean to assume at any time she can become unfaithful? I am have trouble with this.
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Rich pianas wife stole and cucked him with a loser and hes a famous millionaire, so AWALT
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AWALT is a bell curve. Of course you can find outliers and the spectrum dictates that some are over/under, but they're all on the same graph. All guns are loaded. Basic rule of firearm safety. Treat all guns like they're loaded. Why? Because the consequences of assuming a gun is not loaded, pointing it at your head, giving the cylinder a spin and Russian Rouletting yourself is unwise. Just like assuming AWALT. MAYBE she's a unicorn (not), but you really better check and see for yourself how many chambers contain lead, then decide whether it's worth the risk.
ioncehadsexinapool 6y ago
The latter. In other words, don’t be surprised if she is. Subscribing to awalt is best case scenario for you because it will influence your actions in a way that will give you the advantage regardless. Don’t be a bitch like me smh
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purple_nose_rudolph 6y ago
Thank you but im on my phone , ive got the app , where Is it on mobile?
purple_nose_rudolph 6y ago
What the fuck is the sidebar, im new and allways see the aformentioned sidebar but i dont know what it is???? Help
ShotgunTRP 6y ago
Change your mobile to desktop version
Or google "how to view sidebar on mobile"
Would you also like us to wipe your ass and change your diapers?
clavabot 6y ago
Keying in the difference between Alpha and Beta behaviors, we see that testosterone in the deciding factor. Then for the low-test males who have done everything they can to naturally boost their test [lifiting, diting etc] Is TRT, steroids, etc a recommended course of action or is there another way to raise their levels to that of an 'Alpha'?
Yoasted 6y ago
I recently hoped on Test, low key changed my life for the better. To each to their own though.
netopatineto 6y ago
My spontaneity is failing me. I've been improving my frame internally, I have been gaining confidence through my habits. But there are still insecurities, by no means I am cured from Betosis, sometimes I spontaneously harm my frame saying beta shit or offering favors, sometimes I catch these before I act, sometimes I do not. I feel like I need to internalize that I don't give a fuck about people, and I should work on my seek for validation.
Any tips?
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ShotgunTRP 6y ago
This is something that started happening to me a while ago also.
You're not escalating hard and fast enough.
I assume you're not on the offensive and playing it chill overthinking.
Just be like Tarzan or Fred Flintstones retarded cousin. "ME TARZAN ME WANT VAG" and make moves
there's a reason why literal retards are constantly fucking and overanalytical nerdboys are stroking themselves. The retards make a move and risk rejection. The nerdboys wait for the perfect play and attempt to mitigate chances of rejection.
[deleted] 6y ago
In terms of lifting I've found it extremely hard to get myself stronger. On 5x5 I got up to 77.5 kg before plateuing, then changed it to 4x8 and progressed until I got to 70 where I began failing again. My other lifts are okay (130dead 115 squat) but I just don't know how to go higher.
viktor_silva 6y ago
Visit the nsuns sub Reddit.
nebder 6y ago
You’ve potentially graduated StrongLifts. Eventually you need to switch to 3x5 and you’re at that level. After that, you also hit a point where you’re squatting so much every session you don’t have energy for the rest of the lifts. My OHP and bench were the first to stall on SL. Squat and DL haven’t stalled yet on any program. I’m ~8 months into lifting.
Google intermediate weightlifting programs and pick the one that suits you. SL was my starter program, so I went with madcow 5x5. I use this app personally: http://vandersoft.co
Madcow has a medium/light/heavy pattern with weekly progression. It still kinda weirds me out to have lighter squat days as I’m used to months of SL hitting it hard every time.
I added curls to bench day and pull-ups to DL day on my madcow. Don’t wanna skip curls for the gurls and pull-ups for dat back.
I hear nsun is good as well, no personal experience.
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foreveralphablog 6y ago
Eventually it becomes impossible to keep adding weight to the bar every single week. Especially if you're smaller...how heavy are you?
Another great way to progress every week is just adding a set. E.g Wk 1 - 2x5, Wk 2 - 3x5, Wk 3 - 4x5, Wk 4 - 5x5, Wk 5 - Deload. Then Wk 6 add weight to the bar & start again at 2x5
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I'm around 72 kilos at 5'7 so not skinny but not bulky either with fairly low fat
foreveralphablog 6y ago
Yeah that's the thing, guys who weigh around 100 kilos (for example) can afford to add 2.5kg to the bar every week for quite a while, as it doesn't affect them that much.
For guys like you and myself, a 2.5kg increase has more of a relative impact on our recovery, unless you have outrageous genetics. It's simply a far greater % of our bodyweight.
kkri3 6y ago
A girl asked me out for the first time in my life last week.
We are going out for a drink, but she added that she was very busy and won't be able to stay late. Is this a variaton of the infamous ”We are not going to have sex.” I've been reading about here?
foreveralphablog 6y ago
In my experience it is definitely the "no sex tonight" thing. As long as you make sure that you are the one who is always leading, and that you end the date, not her then its fine.
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She could just be telling the truth, or she could just be forward thinking and setting up the premise of "no sex going down".
If she had the balls to ask YOU out, I think it is the latter. As soon as she checks her watch or phone 3 times, suggest that you two leave for the night.
Self-honest 6y ago
Also, watch the fuck out for red flags. Her asking you out could be an indicator of more on the way.
SomeoneBehindThePC 6y ago
What's the harm in being asked out?
Self-honest 6y ago
A lot of girls who ask guys out do it very frequently. There may be psychological issues beneath the surface. I've read and experienced that BPD/narcs will ask guys out then jump straight into their idealize faze. At a minimum, you aren't the first guy she has asked out. She may be a slut. Just saying, be extra vigilant in looking for red flags in the event that a girl asks you out. If she's BPD she will fuck you up with her love out of the gate and your defenses will go down. You will overlook red flags until it's too late.
Mr-Ed209 6y ago
Agreed. It's a pretty major red flag.
Every pussy BP guy has probably been burned by the fast girl. She goes on several dates a month, slots most into friendzone because theyre were never dominant/confident enough to ask her out themselves.
Maybe if you're RP aware you can not be an idiot and get an easy lay out of it tho.
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dza76wutang 6y ago
Having not understood the concept or purpose of shit tests (male and female) until recently, in hindsight I see plenty of failures.
In the longer term relationships (friends, colleagues, romantic ones) can one dig out of a "shit-test deficit" and what's the prognosis and how can I estimate how long it'll take to "get out of debt"?
Please LMK if I am exhibiting a fundamental misunderstanding of shit tests.
Self-honest 6y ago
Nah man. You can't entirely get out of debt by passing future shit tests. Because in real life debt, you get past zero and nothing else matters. In shit test debt people will remember how you acted previously.
You can get back in the short term much easier than the long term. In the long term, years of acting a certain way will always stay on people's minds.
womans_algorithm 6y ago
It's possible, but they will need to change their perception of you, and that's not an easy thing to do.
But on the other hand, why are you asking this? Because I think your question doesn't matter, the answer to it doesn't matter. Either way you apply TRP knowledge (shit testing) to your life, improve, and keep moving in life.
Fyrjefe 6y ago
I think this is a decent question. The short answer is to work on yourself and surprise people by not being phased. Answer if you want to. This stuff takes time and practice.
timleif 6y ago
Why is it that some women respect you more when you don't take their shit (blow past their shit tests/hold frame) while others become less attracted to you? Is it because the former is testing your value and the latter failed to get you as an orbiter?
VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
It may also be that you are confusing comfort tests with shit tests.
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I'd say you misjudged what was being tested and you failed that test.
epictetus_irl 6y ago
I’ve had this with single moms. Passing tests decreased their interest.
Obviously they were looking specifically for a man to play the provider role and when you demonstrate your value they know it’s not You.
They want a provider they can control.
It’s a good thing either way for you.
truedemocracy3 6y ago
This x1000. Also see it from women who may have been pretty loose in the past but are looking for a relationship (the trashy kind of girls that on their Tinder bio say 'not looking to hookup).
They are in a desperate state looking for a provider.
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If they wanted to respect you, passing the shit test is a way of proving your value to her. She subliminally wants you to pass so you can be her Alpha Male.
If they don't respect you in the first place (e.g. you already proved to be beta or she considers herself that much above you), then the shit test is more for her enjoyment of you not passing it. Girls like nothing more than for their orbiters to freak out and come running after them. It gives them loads of validation.
Jen_Rey 6y ago
This is so true...Now it makes me angry that I didn't find about this subreddit sooner.
[deleted] 6y ago
Because women already have one pussy, they don't need another one.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
This doesn't answer the question, but I'm upvoting it because it's a great comment.
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AussiecuntTRP 6y ago
Stop my breathing and slit my throat
I must be emo
ShotgunTRP 6y ago
U been watching those kiwi pig hunting docos on nitv?
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Women don't become less attracted to you, but they can become less comfortable if you give alpha responses to shit tests.
Same with women pretending to be interested but really interested in framing you as a provider. Refusing to be beta means she has to move on to another mark.
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 6y ago
I had a smoking hot single mom come onto me a few weeks ago.
She was dumb as rocks and worked at Hooters, but was a solid HB8 on her worst day, and easily an HB9 on her average day with a killer rack. But she was a single mom. It was pretty clear from the start she was looking for a provider and when I smashed her shit tests she withdrew pretty quickly. I was never interested in anything other than a cheap lay and even then I didn't care that much. I let the betas in the room gush over her and worship her at her feet instead.
I always assume single moms are fishing for providers first and foremost which is the opposite of non-single moms who are fishing for men to satisfy their craving for dick.
whatsthisgarg 6y ago
I have a feeling that it is necessary to add (if this guy had to ask this question he might not know): less comfortable is good.
I think it's hilarious when I read mainstream advice about women who don't want to have sex with their long-term partners. It usually comes to this, after the choreplay horseshit, it's "I need to feel comfortable." No you don't, honey, no, you don't.
It's the second biggest canard out there, right behind "women think about sex just as much as men."
(inb4 somebody crawls up my ass about this, yes, women LIKE sex just as much as men; it is patently false that women THINK ABOUT sex just as much as men.)
Jake_le_Dog 6y ago
They don't think about sex as often as men. Not even close. Some women who hop on testosterone comment on how sex "becomes an urge," not just a desire.
Women are a lot more sexual than men though (or they're more often sexual?). They're constantly on the lookout for attractive men. Constantly measuring men's behaviours, general appearance, small weird details. Whereas many times men switch off their sexuality: tiredness, not being in the mood, already having had good sex, bigger concerns, etc. being amongst the possible reasons why.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Right...... I mean, a certain amount of comfort is essential..... but it's hardly the problem in a LTR
Anueltriplea 6y ago
It could be another shit test to see if you'll hold frame even if she dislikes you.
futmut 6y ago
How do i get better resistance when having sex? I get tired after a while especially when doing hip movement and the girl is clearly upset cause she cant have an orgasm that way...I started running from 3 weeks would this help? Im not fat and pretty decent shape right now..
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insanity_wow27 6y ago
Some woman I have an on off thing with refuses to use words like "cock" and "pussy" and gets weird with me when I do. What's the red pills take on it?
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Switch to "love truncheon" and "beef town" for cock and pussy respectively.
ShotgunTRP 6y ago
I prefer lovegun and beef curtains personally
JacksinthePulpit 6y ago
I'm struggling to balance tonality and portraying a masculine frame with being a fun and carefree guy. I feel that I'm either Stone faced serious with a deep voice or a fool with a high voice. I've seen people balance it very well and I'm wondering if anyone can give tips on how to portray both.
TheProphetPhysiquiel 6y ago
Tonality doesn't mean talking in your deepest, most ear-chocolatey seductive voice, it means that you're saying what you're saying with confidence and conviction, you're putting it out there because you have faith in it, you're not putting it out there ^and ^hoping ^she's ^liking ^it?
See what I mean?
dr_warlock 6y ago
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for great vocabulary choice, text formatting, and conciseness to convey an idea
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netopatineto 6y ago
This. This is gold. Perfectly understood.
JacksinthePulpit 6y ago
Ok I get it now, thank you. I should be focusing more on my intentions when I speak and the rest will fall into place. I feel like when I seek validation it immediately displays in my behavior vs when I actually believe in something and say it regardless of others opinions.
ThrowFader 6y ago
Air on the side of not giving a fuck.
If you don't care if someone finds your statements odd, it helps you say it with more convinction. Ironically, you become more believable, thus giving you an air how gentle confidence.
Also you always want to keep some part of you hidden.
If people feel like it is difficult to get you to do something, they value it more. Ration your words, compliments, attention.
Honestly focus on yourself all the time, this help build internal frame.
AllthesuddenIgetit 6y ago
"He who cares least wins" has never been more correct than in today's dating world.
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nebder 6y ago
Why do you think this is a binary choice.
Met a woman recently out with some friends. On our date I said I love going out with them. It’s the cougar, the gay guy and whatever stereotype I am. She said well you’re the fun guy. That’s what I’m shooting for.
Jake_le_Dog 6y ago
Practice?
I can't actually see what you're talking about to be an issue. Maybe you mean when you're goofy, you go way out goofy, too much. And when you're serious you're too serious? If so, just switch more often, life's a game.
Ryttter 6y ago
Is it a shit test i a girl ignores You? And if how do I deal With it?
ShotgunTRP 6y ago
There's many different types of ''ignore me'. Did she not respond to your tinder msg after the second time? Have you dated once and she's ghosted? Is she a regularly banging plate and she only ignores you on a Saturday night? Is she you wife and she doesn't respond when you say hello when you get home from work?
Give more detail for fuck sake.
GrimsterrOP 6y ago
just don’t send a text until she initiates man. if she doesn’t, next.
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Glacierdust 6y ago
Can someone on this forum please articulate to me why men shouldn't cry/talk about feelings? I know they shouldn't and all, but I want to be able to put it into words. Also, I'm going to request that you express two elements: how it's detrimental to the individual man and how it's detrimental to society.
Tesrali 6y ago
Exposing your emotions in need will make her leave you. "A woman won't leave you until you're completely devastated." ~ Patrice
As long as you're not asking for help, then wear your heart on your sleeve. Your heart is your frame. Patrice always talked about being "righteous." That's what that means.
Exposing your feelings to others is often a way of asking for help. Women resent men who ask for help. They're built to absorb 190% of that shit from children. Too many men absorb the feelings of women they aren't getting anything from. That's part of keeping frame. It's easy for her to keep frame against your emotions. It's hard for you to keep frame against hers. It's natural that way.
You're staring at the horizon, they're staring at you, and the children are staring at them. Fundamentally you need to better yourself to compete in the hypergamy. They're gaming you for resources. Children are gaming them for resources. You're gaming the world.
What feelings are you thinking about exposing?
Cheers and Love man, ~TES
malamaru 6y ago
As an extension, we can utilise one of Dante's rules too, so I'll paraphrase: Beige Philip Rule #7263: A woman loves you for who you are, but if you fall into her frame, she will dump you without a second thought. She will then fall for someone who you once were.
Thus, always try to remain 'righteous', 'credible' and ever-learning. Also, pick things up that'll help you become a greater man. For example, guys tend to go to dance classes to meet women, but I aim to utilise Ballroom dancing to read body cues and body language with more efficiency.
[From Patrice O'Neal to Dante Nero / Black Philip to Beige Philip; I advise whoever's reading this to look these guys up.)]
joacognavi 6y ago
I've been hitting on my best friend last month. She said she was interested but was just ending a relationship. I didn't give a fo so 3 days ago we went to a club together (with more friends) and I left upstairs with another girl, she was FURIOUS after that (lol). After that we went to her house with some friends and she and another girl friend of her got super angry cause I was "too quiet" and started saying I was treating them badly (hahahah) so I left the house and after 3 days she texted me saying why did I act like that, etc. Of course I know she's testing my frame and I didn't break it so she got angrier. What should I do next? I don't think talking to her is a good idea, I think I should wait.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Do whatever you want to do.
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I think she wants to "keep you in her cart" while she shops around for a better deal. Then, if she can't find one, she will go ahead and "confirm purchase".
I really feel that she sees you as a "backup boyfriend". She gets mad when you show signs of leaving (interest in other girls), but won't lock you down herself (she is looking for better options).
You're the Plan B, bro. Just let her go.
joacognavi 6y ago
I think you are right, thanks
Radinax 6y ago
What happens when you're basically telling her that nothing will happen? I had shit like that happen to me and I just completely ignore them, but what idk is what's going in their mind, just curious.
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If you mean that you won't have feelings for her, then she will either:
A) Move on (unlikely, because many women are stubborn, especially when it comes to a guy she wants but can't have)
B) Try harder to convince you to change your mind (most likely result)
Guerilla713 6y ago
How many times should I ask to hang out before stopping?
Met this girl in the same office building as me (skyscraper and she's ten floors up and at a different company). She brushes her hand down my arm when we see each other (I always see her alone while I'm usually with coworkers). When I got her number she says that she normally doesn't give out her number.
I send one text and she'll respond with four. But when I ask to hang out she'll go ghost (did this twice). I asked to go out to a new restaurant this weekend and she said she had to work and clean her house.
Should I just ghost her as well? What I'm leaning towards.
juliusstreicher 6y ago
IIRC, isn't the 'flaking twice' a pretty hard and fast rule for getting Nexted? Once is hideous enough, but, two??? I had thought that one 'fuck you, I don't care about your time enough' was bad.
RonTomJohnson 6y ago
She's got a boyfriend or husband and is testing the branch to see if it can swing or not.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Two points.
First drop the ego. A lead is a lead, and texts are free apart from the emotional toll. A 1% chance of a good fuck from a date is a good deal if you weigh up the time investment.
Secondly... change tack. Do something different. Ignore her. Say sexual stuff to her. Test her. Tell her you can't date her. Ask what colour her panties are. ANYTHING except what you already did, because that didn't work.
Self-honest 6y ago
I was over looking this at first but hey keeps saying when he ASKS for a date. Maybe he doesn't understand the finer points of setting a date like a man.
Guerilla713 6y ago
Ignoring her would basically mean not texting since we see each other very rarely in the building.
I could try that sexual stuff. It'll be either a complete hit or she'll block me.... Scheduling the text for next week lmao
Frich3 6y ago
if she blocks you she is only doing you a favor.. look man i've learned to just say what you want and if they bite on it cool. if they dont then they didnt wanna fuck w/ you. you think if brad pitt asked her out she would have to "clean the house"? fuck outta here. she knows you are interested she just doesnt want you. that brushing up the arm shit dont mean nothin. she prolly does that to guys and expects them to jump through hoops just like what you are doing. i'd say voice your thoughts to her on going out, having a drink, or something along those lines. if she makes another excuse, she was never interested to begin with.
joacognavi 6y ago
I think you should be less forward with her. Women with those attitudes you are explaining tend to hit on you when you show less interest (but don't ghost her)
Guerilla713 6y ago
Thanks. I think I'll just wait a couple weeks before sending a random text to her
ImNotTheRealOP 6y ago
ASD. Just ignore
Next time, don't ask to meet. Tell her a time and a place. "I'll pick you up at 7", stuff like that.
If she was interesed, she wouldn't have ghosted you twice. Id say medium next her: if she hits you up, sure, but be clear about your intentions
Guerilla713 6y ago
My response was basically that but I haven't heard back since yesterday afternoon so you're most likely right on her interest in me not being all the way there
But once when she ghosted me, I had sent an text on a gift for Christmas I got and when I texted whats up again, she brought up the text about the gift lol
foreveralphablog 6y ago
I don't see any ego issues here, it's common sense.
If a girl ghosts twice, she's just after attention. The test is always (obviously you don't say this):
Well this is all very nice, but are you actually going to meet me on a date?
If the answer is no, then no more attention for you.
RonTomJohnson 6y ago
Just say you'll be at so and so place at so and so time. If she shows up cool, if not, whatever.
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It isn't worth it. She didn't think to message you ONCE over the course of weeks? Clearly she doesn't think you're worth her attention.
I've been in your shoes. Always the first to initiate contact, always reaching out, etc. Stop doing that and value your time better. Those who want you and want to be around you will show you in their actions.
AshWebster 6y ago
dont overthink it - just send a text. nothing long. personally i try to arrange meeting up within the first 5 or 6 messages. if she doesnt reply next her.
AdamNJH 6y ago
Went out in central London to day game and pussied out on approaching anyone.
Has anyone here got any experience with going out solo or with a wing in London?
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I live in the U.S., and go out solo very often.
What helps me is:
Going out with the intention to have a good time, not get girls. I go to NEW PLACES I NEVER BEEN TO, with the goal of having a good experience with something new.
STOP GIVING A FUCK. If you pussy out on skydiving, that makes sense. If you pussy out on wrestling a bear, that makes sense. But just TALKING to someone? Never pussy out on talking to someone who is human just like you. She took a shit, wiped, and may or may not have washed her hands before she went out just like you did.
Blackhawk2479 6y ago
If you’re new to day game the first thing you need to do is talk to anyone and everyone; literally force yourself to talk to old guys, gays, girls you’d never consider fucking if they were the last woman alive, etc, because this teaches you outcome independence.
You don’t care if you’re rejected because you don’t want to succeed - the goal is to be comfortable just talking to strangers.
Get enough of these interactions under your belt and you’ll be able to apply this mindset and approach to hot girls too, then you’ll wonder what you were ever afraid of.
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Mr-Ed209 6y ago
The 'healthiest relationships' follow this dynamic
So in short, Briffaults law does apply to men. If a woman fails to exude fertility, gets overweight or hits the wall then a man's interest depletes.
HS-Thompson 6y ago
Because for whatever reason, whoever made us wired men to have a strong instinct for loyalty that doesn't apply to women.
When you think of the benefits to evolution of a man being loyal to a woman (and the resultant children) after fucking her the broader principle at work here shouldn't be too complicated. It doesn't apply in reverse for the same reasons.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
Because:
Women have more, easier, lower cost options
Women don't have the sort of transactional fairness/loyalty that men have evolved.
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Men and women are not the same. Pussy has an intrinsic value, dick and balls don't.
womans_algorithm 6y ago
Because men love sacrificially. We love her the more we put into the relationship. Check "Men in Love" from sidebar.
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For a man who has decided to never marry or have children, and wants to wane the "need for female affection" off as much as possible, what are his options? What would be the most effective way to keep those decisions solid in your life?
After dealing with various types of women in my 27 years, I have come to despise them deeply. For example, I refuse to believe anything a woman says (regardless of how trivial) until I could prove it right myself (due to my belief that they are immoral and self-serving), and I find myself quickly irritated when around them (even strangers).
Knowing this, I think it would be very selfish and irresponsible to date, marry, or become a father with one. Also, since I like pussy (sometimes), I try to consume porn more often so the feeling of getting the real thing goes away (saving me the risks). But I feel eventually porn will get old, and I will become susceptible to backslide and get myself into trouble. I has happen before and I don't want it happening again.
Are there other things I could do or read to repel the innate need for a "companion" in the future? Being 27, I would be a fool if I think I can keep this behavior up. I just don't want to lose control and get caught slipping one day and fuck my life up.
Thanks guys.
foreveralphablog 6y ago
It's about expectations.
If you expect women to be inconsistent, irrational and overly reactive, then you get used to it and you end up loving them.
There's plenty of positives that women bring to the table - the world would be a boring, depressing place without them. Just look at how many MGTOW's are depressed on their forums
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Is getting used to ridiculous behavior a good thing though? By that logic, if your child exhibited terrible behavior, instead of doing something to fix or avoid it, would that be a good thing?
Other than sex and child rearing, which are great things, what other positives do women bring to the table?
foreveralphablog 6y ago
Inconsistency & irrationality isn't necessarily terrible. The way I look at it is this:
If this "ridiculous" behaviour is really impacting me personally (i.e. she's giving me direct drama), she won't see me again.
But if it's not directed at me, then it's fine. If she's complaining about her friend, that's fine.
Positives:
Many are very, very interesting to talk to. I think if you want to talk about more serious stuff, like money, business/career and self-improvement, then guys are better. But if you just want to relax, have fun and enjoy yourself, women are GREAT.
Affection (after sex) is also nice.
I also find many are very generous. Like they just do stuff for you.
RonTomJohnson 6y ago
Learn to accept their nature. For the survival of our our species, they need to do that. If women just selected based on nothing, our genetics would be shit, and we would die out. It's like that all over nature as well. If women didn't act the way they do, we'd be in some deep shit.
You're in the anger phase still. You haven't gotten to accept it. Giving up is mgtow, not red pill.
AshWebster 6y ago
try noFap and get a hobby/goal. It will keep your mind busy. Go earn dollar, buy sportcars, jump off cliffs into the sea.
Blackhawk2479 6y ago
Stop hating them. Sure, they are vapid, shallow, disloyal and solipsistic but they are true to their nature. Cats scratch and bite; do we get mad at them or do we accept that’s what cats do and keep them as pets anyway?
You’ll also find your prejudices colour your interactions with them which just makes things worse. Let go of the hate and just focus on yourself and your goals for a while.
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By that logic, I should stop hating snakes then. They are dangerous and serve me no purpose, but true to their nature as snakes. No different than women
Blackhawk2479 6y ago
Two things wrong with your reasoning:
1) You can avoid snakes without hate. Hating them serves no useful purpose, why be so emotional? The wise man is aware of the danger without the irrationality of hate.
2) Unlike snakes, women do serve a purpose - without them you cannot fulfil your biological imperative to reproduce. Without reproduction we die out.
nebder 6y ago
That’s exactly the logic why you should stop hating them.
Or go mgtow. Idgaf
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Why? I'm curious why you feel my presence and my question is invalid.
I did not advocate for hating women or doing anything wrong to them. Thus, I can't find a reason you would have an objection what I said.
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My apologies. I didn't know
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MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
"It's fine to like me. Just don't get attached."
Continue fucking. But this will come back to bite. You have to manage her expectations.
dr_warlock 6y ago
All women eventually want more. All of them. Don't believe anything they say to the contrary. They may even believe they just want something casual in the moment they said it. Here at TRP, we know women better than they know themselves. This is how you demonstrate it ==> It's destined to end. Enjoy it while it lasts and don't attempt to negotiate an extension, it's not worth the effort and usually doesn't work. Always be hunting for new game even when you're not hungry to keep the queue filled and the end of one plate wont make you flinch.
ImNotTheRealOP 6y ago
You shouldn't openly deny the possibility of a relationship. Keep it vague, say things like "not right now" or "I just came out of a relationship", etc. Say that you like the way things are now.
Give her plausible deniability to think that one day you will engage in a relationship with her... And when you can't hold her off anymore, walk. Don't give her a reason either.
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You need to be honest with her as soon as possible about not wanting a relationship.
Imagine that the more you meet/have sex with her without addressing the issue, you are digging a hole for yourself deeper and deeper.
Let her know you enjoy her company and sex, but you do not want a serious relationship. She will either accept that and continue to fuck you, or leave altogether. Either way, its better than to continue leading her on.
womans_algorithm 6y ago
People dissagree with you by downvoting you, but honesty is really a way to go. There are more than enough girls who are up for being fwb. Leading op's girl on is like woman leading her orbiter on.
Crimson_Medicinal 6y ago
Is Tinder harder than it used to be?
I'm recently single so I hopped back on, used good pictures and came up with an interesting bio only to get 4 matches (all 5-6/10) that never replied.
I'm above average physically and thought I would be killing it but are there so many men that I'm getting filtered out? I even have it set to younger girls for higher chances.
HS-Thompson 6y ago
99.999% of Tinder sucking or not sucking has to do with location. The other tiny percent has to do with your profile.
If you're in a mega-city with essentially unlimited women to swipe you can completely clean up pretty easily. Just get that upgraded version and swipe right on everything and go from there.
If you're in a place with a few hundred potential mates it's not all that useful for anyone, though I'm sure being very atttractive will optimize that scenario.
In short Tinder is for big cities. Start with that as the premise.
Your_Coke_Dealer 6y ago
Tinder is shooting fish in a barrel if you're high status and your profile is perfectly set up to show it, shooting fish in a pond if you're in college, and blindly throwing a hook into the ocean if you're an average guy otherwise.
And if you're a college student, you'd still do better just walking up and talking to girls, though Tinder was kinda nice to increase the volume of women to passively game.
Yes, it's not as easy as it used to be, and yes you're getting filtered out, and even an above average guy will be unless they frequently reset their profiles.
420KUSHBUSH 6y ago
Yes, most girls use it for validation/attention, plugging in their social media, or free dinners. Especially since Tinder ruins your ELO (score for putting up your profile to future potential matches) and if you buy the premium you have a WAY BETTER time but if you want to spend your hard earned money for that mumbo jumbo feel free
Gone were the days of 2012-2015 of Tinder in it's glory days
foreveralphablog 6y ago
It is harder yes, but depends on your location.
A little statistic I've recently found...
In the 2 cities I have lived in since Tinder became a thing; Nottingham & Madrid, 40% of the girls I moved from Tinder and onto texting ended up meeting up with me.
Now I live in a small town, I have tried out the same strategy, and successfully got loads of girls off Tinder and onto texting. And so far, guess what?
Only 5% of those have actually met up with me.
The percentage of women who are time-wasters goes up SIGNIFICANTLY outside of cities, at least in Europe, although I suspect it's the same in the US.
Anyone have any idea why this might be??
Crimson_Medicinal 6y ago
I'm from a small town and it seems like every fat boring slut wants to either eat for free or a long term relationship, there's no romance unless you're chad, even the girls I've plated have basically had no personalities and were boring as fuck to be around. I've never lived in a city but I bet being able to walk down the street to meet someone is a plus.
foreveralphablog 6y ago
Yeah the impression I get is that they are screening for "The Perfect Boyfriend™", (read:compliant nice-guy who does as he's damn well told).
Yeah Tinder is a different ball-game in cities it seems! Very easy to get what you want.
Darth_Antonius 6y ago
Yes. Unless you're in the top 5% of men, you aren't going to get anything better than a table scrap, maybe.
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Tinder has always been for the top percentage of men. It's gotten more saturated and less attention as time goes on, but it's always followed two rules:
Be Attractive
Unless you have a six pack and exotic pictures, you're probably not gonna get good results
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CasaDeFranco 6y ago
It also depends on your location, I kill it in SF, NYC and even more so in cities where white women find dating hard (Shanghai, Seoul, Tokyo). In cities with smaller populations not so much.
Drop by tinder subreddit and have them give feedback on your profile; once you've selected images which show good facial looks, travel, social life, and interesting hobbies, you'll kill it.
Don't overthink the bio, put something that invites conversation, 2 truths and a lie is dumb but it works; or ask them to guess where you're from (shows you're exotic / and or travel).
But again, the key point is to be high status and good looking. Ie
I usually use my work android cell to place me in the city before I travel there (or if domestic in a place with high traffic), leave it there for two weeks to accumulate matches so I can line up some warm leads before I arrive. If you disclose you're only there for a few weeks it usually takes very little messages to convert to a drink and from there it's down to your game to convert.
TL:DR Rule 1. Be Attractive
Rule 2. Don't be Unattractive
Crimson_Medicinal 6y ago
I'm attractive but poor and uninteresting, I've never been to any exotic places and I'm in a small town in Ohio, I guess I need to work on that.
CasaDeFranco 6y ago
Work on the poor and uninteresting parts before investing time on tinder. If you're good at what you do, the women will follow.
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ShotgunTRP 6y ago
This is the shit chicks care about "Waaaah my penis isn't perfect aesthetics"
Just lift and act boss even if it's 1inch and shaped like a blue berry
Blackhawk2479 6y ago
Why do you care? Whatever you have - straight or curved - will work just fine, don’t overthink things.
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VasiliyZaitzev 6y ago
They tend to be fucked in the head, but the sex will be hot.
Your_Coke_Dealer 6y ago
All conventional rules on frame, game, maintaining power in a relationship, women not being consistent or logical, "she's not yours, it's just your turn", the AF/BB dichotomy of female mating, and all other RP principles apply to all women because AWALT.
The only difference with "daddy issues" is that you'll likely receive more shit tests and/or have a shorter turn.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
They've all got daddy issues.
Blackhawk2479 6y ago
Agreed. It makes we chuckle when I read “don’t put your dick in crazy” (hell I’ve even said this myself) because they are all crazy to some extent.
It’s not possible to live your life by emotions alone and be completely sane.
Dmva100 6y ago
Outside of the risk if BPD, she won't be good relationship material because she will likely be very insecure and in need of codependency. Basically if you're high SMV and have frame she will literally want you to act like a father, except she will fuck you, unlike a real father, AND her AWALT tendencies to avoid responsibility for her actions will be abnormally high.
If there's wild sex involved, which is likely, coupled with such behaviors, it will bring out a certain element of your paternal instincts that may make you susceptible to one-itis behavior. Plate her and nothing more.
Be careful and wrap it up.
ShotgunTRP 6y ago
Ding ding ding!!! Correct answer
CasaDeFranco 6y ago
I dated a girl who revealed she was diagnosed with Borderline. Father passed away at 5. After a few weeks of intense sex and mood swings I cut it off.
She wasn’t Japanese but I had to drop the bomb twice before she understood.
I would advise against plating a BPD, far too erratic to warrant the risk just for good sex.
otikokoso 6y ago
Haha... Dropped the bomb twice.... I'm gonna use it
Redpiller77 6y ago
"She wasn’t Japanese but I had to drop the bomb twice before she understood."
Pure gold
juliusstreicher 6y ago
Yes, I can envision a future in which I use this many times; and, of course, give myself full credit for it's creation.
Geckobird 6y ago
DO NOT EVER DATE A GIRL WITH BPD!!!!!!!
lauris652 6y ago
She tests my 'frame', I hold it blah blah blah.
I wonder if i can make her affraid of losing me if she ever tests my frame again? Because eventually I will become tired of such bullshit. I just want to make clear that if she does this, i will leave. So i think i have to make her feel like shes in heaven and make her afraid of even testing me. Any ideas?
womans_algorithm 6y ago
Passing shit test becomes instinctual with time, you will pass them without even conciosly recognizing them. Dont expect from a woman to stop acting like one. A cat cant bark.
Jake_le_Dog 6y ago
Let her test you. She has her reasons. You can't change her for it. She's just a child, if her tests bother you than either leave her, or you're not redpill enough to not give a fuck.
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littleblacktruck 6y ago
No. She likes to hear you grunt, low moans, etc. Women are turned on by a man that's enjoying himself with her body.
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renzo_0078 6y ago
Anyone know any music artists who have songs that have TRP related lyrics
ShotgunTRP 6y ago
Listen to 'altered states of America' by agoraphobic nosebleed. It's a deep political introspective.
eccentricrealist 6y ago
Not always lyrics but listen to Pantera or Sepultura and you'll feel raw energy
littleblacktruck 6y ago
If you like metal, Prong's entire album Ruining Lives. All the lyrics are about changing, gaining perspective, becoming RP. https://youtu.be/fwf8ZYQOauM
ForWARdTRP 6y ago
21 savage kills it, the savage mode mixtape is super hard and great for lifting.
Craig Xen if you like extremes. "bare flesh", "death to all who cross me" more lifting music.
Xavier Wulf - Thunder man, Psycho Pass, Akina Speed Star, so much.
Hard to say its specifically Red pill but it's aggressive, pump-up, Domination, Battle music, filled with hoes being hoes
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I'd recommend classic rock or hard rap. Both talk about sex with multiple women and being Alpha/in-charge. Stuff like Motley Crue or Wu Tang are good. Really you can listen to whatever music you want so long as it's not a Justin Bieber love song. Modern pop has taken over the music industry with BP lyrics and messages, since it's aimed at young girls.
420KUSHBUSH 6y ago
Daryll Hall & John Oates. I know the skepticism but listen to a few lyrics and you will see
Your_Coke_Dealer 6y ago
This is a pretty irrelevant question and makes me wonder why you're asking it, but to answer it anyway:
a lot of mainstream hip hop, and coming to mind are Gold Digger by Kanye West and Loyal by Chris Brown
Fyrjefe 6y ago
I think the question comes from a good place. This dude is looking for a way to immerse himself in the culture. My answer would be just to listen to Bach while you read the material. His Oratorio works are powerful stuff.
Unlucky_Leader 6y ago
I've done a lot of the internal improvement of my game. The next step I think is an external game, and pick up artistry. Where's good starting resources?
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External game is am outgrowth of inner game. You might nor be done cooking.
bluemoviebaz 6y ago
Sosuave DJ Bible TheBookofPook
Unlucky_Leader 6y ago
I have Book of Pook downloaded would you read it as a book, or as a manual---use when necessary.
bluemoviebaz 6y ago
It’s more of a manual on how to Act and react. Q & A
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Blackhawk2479 6y ago
The likelihood of her being into you is directly inversely proportionate to the amount of money you’ve already spent on her.
The only thing you can trust about a stripper is that she wants your money.
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MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
YES
She's in the business of directly using her sex to exploit men for money. What does this say about her character?
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ShotgunTRP 6y ago
It's high risk for mediocre reward
You could get the same tier of kinky sex from a woman who has less risky downsides
If you must plate/fwb her (do not ltr) have very clearly boundaries and hard next as soon as she breaks them. This type of woman will test your boundaries super hard eventually and as soon as you compromise watch your fragile ego disintegrate.
MattyAnon Admin 6y ago
No.
Some women like men for sex rather than resources.
maybe..... but with a redflag like this..... urgh
redbeaux 6y ago
"Date" As in exclusive? What is it that a stripper can provide for you that another women, who doesn't take her clothes off day in and out for other man, can't? If she's down to fuck and not just after your wallet (which is what I'm thinking) then fuck her, but don't be catching feels....if you haven't already.
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redbeaux 6y ago
There are a whole lot of other drawbacks that led her to a job like that in the first place. You just haven't seen them through your rose tinted glasses yet.
I'd be down for a fuck or 2, but even plate status for a stripper is iffy. You do you, but if you're really looking for advice, I'd steer clear.
Poptart318 6y ago
Make plans out of work. I hope you already got her number. Escalate and find out.