I came across this online, thought it was interesting.
In the article below Taylor Caldwell laments feminists are ruining "nature's great con" where men provided for wives and children. "I fear that men are beginning to suspect that we women conned them through the centuries. I fear they are asking themselves -- to women's terrible hurt -- why they should support an able-bodied woman who can earn a good living too, and why should they be responsible for providing a home for women.
"Feminism is the Real Enslavement of Women"
Abridged from Caldwell's prescient 1970 classic "Women's Lib: They're Spoiling Eve's Great Con Game."
By Taylor Caldwell (1900-1985)
The left, alas, is now running yet another "Liberation Movement," this one championing females who believe that the male sex has somehow done the ladies wrong. The members of this Front say they want all the spoils the boys appear to be getting out of life.
They're quite mad, of course. What these "girls" are about to do is ruin the biggest Con Game, and the most ancient, which one section of humanity has ever imposed on another, since Eve invented it.
I'm just jealous, myself, having been deprived by circumstances from getting into that Big Con Game...alas, alas, alas. But I've stood on the sidelines and seethed with envy, and now I hope - I say with a grin over clenched teeth - that the Liberation "girls" will get exactly what they want. It's all they deserve.
As for myself, I am ... plenty happy that my two beautiful daughters are in on the Game and enjoying every minute of it, and wouldn't even dream of Female Liberation. I brought them up to appreciate their blessings -- and to shut their mouths around their husbands, for fear the boys would catch on and demand liberation for themselves, which is exactly the calamity these rampant females in the "Liberation Movement" are going to precipitate. God help the contented women who will be their victims!
I MISSED MY CHANCE
At eighteen, I fell desperately in love with a true man, a man of strength and masculine vitality and courage. He was attracted to me, too. But then one night he said to me, "Janet, you aren't the gentle little woman my mother was. My father worshiped her, and no wonder. You are too strong, yourself, and too independent for me. There'd be conflict in the house. You wouldn't be satisfied just to be taken care of; you'd want to do something on your own, and be a 'partner' to me."
It's just no use." I was struck dumb at this horrifying statement. I wasn't very articulate then. He gently picked up my hands and shook his head at the old callouses, and as gently put them down.
I wanted to cry out to him, " But I want to be like your mother! I want you to take care of me and deliver me from my hateful daily job! I want you to cherish me! I want only to be your wife and have your children and keep your house! I don't want a career or anything else. I just want you."
But I couldn't say it. I had no words. My rearing silenced me. And so I never saw him again. But I saw the creeps, all right! They hung on me like leeches. Charity prevents me from elaborating on the matter. After all, a girl has to marry someone, doesn't she, when her yearning for love and protection overcomes her. And, believe me, unless she is a dyke or a Liberated Commie, that yearning is natural and heart-breaking...
MEN'S LIBERATION
I fear that men are beginning to suspect that we women conned them through the centuries. I fear they are asking themselves -- to women's terrible hurt -- why they should support an able-bodied woman who can earn a good living too, and why should they be responsible for providing a home for women.
Why can't women be architects and bricklayers and plumbers and stone-masons and lawyers and doctors and businesswomen too, and pile up a fat bank account to be inherited by husbands?
Why should a man give his ex-wife alimony and child-support checks, when she is just as capable, if not more so, of rolling up her sleeves and getting on the 8:00 bus of a morning for an arduous day in the factory or the office?
After all, men whisper among themselves -- I have heard -- that women in Russia are treated exactly as men, and are farm-laborers plowing and seeding and harvesting, and they manhandle big machines in factories, empty garbage, and shovel snow, learn to be bricklayers and steel-workers as well as doctors and lawyers, serve in the armies, drive trucks, wear felt pants, dig sewers and lay pipes, clean chimneys and work in the forests, and do the heaviest of manual labor.
Men, in short, are licking their lips and, for the first time in history, are readying themselves to be exploiters in their turn -- to be the soft gentle creature in the house, the soother of exhaustion, the serene person who has nothing to worry about in his pleasant life. Mom's out there, plugging and "fulfilling" herself, and why should Pop worry? He's had it coming to him since Eve.
It is a woman's nature to make a sanctuary of love and delight in her home. That is the true "career" for women. Alas, alas, that so many multitudes of women are now forced -- or choose -- to abandon that career, and to become imitation men in society. The true men won't marry them. The creeps will throng about them. They will reap the bitterness I have had to reap -- though I never wanted a career, never wanted to be "stalwart." I just wanted to be a woman.
THE PLAYBOY
You really can't change human nature, and the instincts of that nature, for good or evil. I know a prosperous young man in New York, in his early thirties, who has a "pad" in a penthouse and is up-to-date on everything, including Ladies' Liberation. He highly approves of it. It is time, he told me, that women "stopped being parasites" and worked to the day they dropped dead or retired, as men do, and not expect a man "to support them."
He is very enthusiastic, too, about women's "sexual liberation," and always manages to get a girl who, the dupe and dope, heartily agrees with him. "After all," says the young man, "women get as much fun out of it as men do, so why should a man feel obligated to marry them, or give them more than a drink and a dinner in exchange? I'm all for this new freedom for the girls."
He belongs to the Key Club. You know the kind I mean. When I was in New York recently he invited me to meet his "newest girl" at the Club. The "girl" happened to be a member of an advertising agency, a smart, pretty cookie with swinging hair and bright cheeks and eyes, and good manners and an engaging way with her. Only her eyes were vulnerable and soft and tender as she gazed at my young masculine friend. The lovelight shone in those eyes, deep and passionate and devoted.
I thought those two hit it off wonderfully well, and I thought, too what a wonderful marriage they would make and what handsome and intelligent children they would have. After all, the girl came from a good family, had a master's degree in publications and advertising, and money of her own. And I could plainly see that marriage was fixed in her own ardent wishes and hopes.
When she went to the "powder room" I said to my sophisticated, progressive, and with-it young pal: "Are you going to marry Sally soon?" He looked absolutely shocked! Suddenly the primitive man was there and not a "modern" man in a dinner jacket and black tie, in a Key Club with bunnies running around and the smell of winey cooking in the air. He was aghast.
He said "Excuse me, but you can't be serious, can you? Sally's all right. But, after all, she is a modern girl -- she likes a romp as well as I do. No inhibition." He paused. Then he said, "Playmates for play-time. But only maidens for marriage!" And he laughed.
When I still stared at him cynically, he got a little mad. "Let's face it," he said. "The liberated girls have made their own public bed, and they can lie in it, and we men love it. but if they think we are going to marry them, they're due for an awakening. No man wants a woman who's been out on the town with every Tom, Dick, and Harry. When we marry, we don't want a 'modern' woman." He laughed again. "Oh, we encourage the women to be 'liberated'! It's cheap for us, and we get all the free sex we want before we settle down with a decent girl."
Sally came back, glowing at the boyfriend, her heart in her eyes. No one ever told Sally that she was being used, that her womanhood had been cheapened and degraded by her sister-women in the name of "liberation."
Sure, Sally had her "identity," as they wickedly call it, and her "freedom," and she was being fulfilled all right, all right! She had her good job and her independence and her nice little apartment...and she was twenty-seven years old and she would soon be middle-aged, and all she could marry then (and even now) would be some "Liberal" creep eager to live on her salary and permit her to support him.
The young man now opposite her, with his urbane manner and excellent income and ambitions, would never marry Sally. He would marry some sweet, untouched creature who would not "stand shoulder to shoulder with him in the battle for life," but who would make him a pleasant little wife of whose decency he would be proud, and who had never heard the phrase, "women's liberation." Well, I suppose, it serves Sally right and all her deluded and pathetic sisters who sprint off to work every morning and take care of themselves and are as "free as men." But deep in their deprived hearts they know how tragic they are.
WHO WANTS EQUALITY WITH MEN?
Girls, the men are catching on -- through your sister-women who have been "liberated -- that they have been victims for ages of the Big Con Game, and the first thing you know they will be demanding Civil Rights and Equality for themselves, too! It's up to you, in behalf of future generations, to lull them back and to again become superior. Who wants Equality with men? No woman in her right mind.
Remember this: The strongest sign of the decay of a nation is the feminization of men and the masculinization of women. It is notable that in Communist nations women are exhorted, and compelled, to do what has traditionally been men's work. American women, some of them, feel triumphant that they have broken down the "barricades" between the work of the sexes.
I hope they will still feel triumphant when some commissar forces a shovel or an axe into their soft hands and compels them to pound and cut forests and dig ditches. I hope they will be "happy" when a husband deserts them and they must support their children and themselves alone. (After all, if a woman must be "free" she shouldn't object to men being free too, should she?")
I hope they will feel "fulfilled" when they are given no more courtesies due to their sex, and no kindnesses, but are kicked aside on the subways and buses by men, and jostled out of the way by men on busy sidewalks and in elevators. I hope that no man will extend mercy to them because of obvious pregnancies, but will rudely tell them that that is no excuse to shirt a day's heavy labor, and they should be like Russian women. I hope they will be proud when some court demands that they support "delicate" husbands for a lifetime, and pay alimony. I hope, when they look in their mirrors, that they will be pleased to see exhausted and embittered faces, and that they will be consoled by their paychecks.
The decay and the ruin of a nation has always lain in the hands of its women. So does its life and strength, its reverence for beauty, its mercy and kindness. And, above all, its men.
Taylor Caldwell was born in England and emigrated with her parents when she was a child in 1907. She was an outspoken conservative and wrote for many publications until her death in 1985. The preceding article was reprinted from the 1970 issue of American Opinion.
Dawnguards 5y ago
Let me quote most ancient saying: "there cant be two captains in one ship" And.. there cant be two talkers in one conversation.. "one listens while other talks"
Now women are so full of themselves they are not the listeners anymore, they dont want to be led, they want to bs and destroy things.
[deleted] 5y ago
The societal brainwashing has brought that about. Its scary how sedated everyone is in our schools today...
Dawnguards 5y ago
Would you explain what you mean sedated in school. Not sure Im following what you said. Not native english.
[deleted] 5y ago
Sedated - calm (someone) or make them sleep by administering a sedative drug (Google definition)
In this context I mean that they dont critically think and question what they are taught, similar to the effects of a sedative drug, hence the being of sedated
Dawnguards 5y ago
Well, its impossible to do anything. People are not sedated For example, vaccines - some not sedated people are saying that some vaccines that arent good, actually harmful. And the backlash comes as if they said "all vaccines are harmful". And then the topic is twisted how vaccine helps people.
Lots of people say that some meat is harmful to eat because its full of drugs and hormones and untested bs stuff in it. The backlash comes to them as is they sad about all meat. And then they create the confusion in people about the topic and say meat is great.
Same thing about feminism. Which is now has different meaning and is twisted beyond repair. Now when people thing about it, they think about different feminism than it was hundreds years ago.
TL;DR Same about education, politics..etc. Some powerful people(mostly media) twist things up so bad just to create chaos so people dont settle on the same definition. And when people are divided, they are conquered.
P.S. there were some article mashup to show that when women raped boys in school or women - men. There were no words on rape, and when it was man "raped" woman - the words like rape were bountiful in those articles.
[deleted] 5y ago
Signs were there from the 1920s. Government spending doubled pretty quickly after extending the franchise to women.
[deleted] 5y ago
What do you see happening in the future? Like mass mgtow?
suxxos 5y ago
Well, if a girl wants to be a "gentle little woman", who is going to stop her? If she doesn't, than she can do whatever the heck she wants. I don't see how feminism takes away any kind of freedom.
Incel9876 5y ago
To quote Obama, using Leftist logic against itself, there are negative liberties (what the government can't do to you) and there are positive freedoms, which is the capacity to act upon one's free will. Feminism destroyed postive freedom of women to be function in their ancient role, by destroying the economic, social, and legal frameworks that supported it. For example, when divorce and child custody laws favored men, divorce was 1%, and everyone in society benefited: men, women, and children.
Fyn689 5y ago
A couple of weeks ago, I told my friends that this feminism on super-steroids happens just because we men allow it. They said that no way! How could we ever stop it? To what I answered "if at the moment any of these radical feminists takes to the streets, hordes of men do too and beat the shit out of them, how long do you think they'd last?"
They laughed awkwardly.
My answer is an exaggeration that uses men's last bastion of power - physical strength. This however, doesn't make my statement wrong. What's happening and what is about to happen in future years is our fault.
Men are all too afraid of their women, so the decline it is then.
It's impressive that this woman saw it coming 50 years ago.
DownyGall 5y ago
Very true. Everyone knows the sexes are unequal but if you say you’re a caveman bigot racist sexist homophobe. The other day I said to a few people how my cousin (female) boxes. I couldn’t think of anything else to say so I said how women boxing is way worse than men boxing. This early 30s feminist gets all offended. Of course this dumb bitch knows men boxing is more entertaining. You could take heavyweight women and featherweight men and the men would still be better fighters. Even puny men are the result of tens of thousands of years of men who could fight. This modern world is insane.
Frontestgecko 5y ago
Schopenhauer saw it coming almost a couple hundred years ago.
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banthrow 5y ago
The moment a guy hit a feminist, you will have 50 men punching him to a pulp. It's our instinct to help ladies in distress, and ladies also help themselves, so nobody cares for us, not even ourselves.
Our protective white-knight instinct is thus turned against us, feminism is allowed and supported by men.
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antariusz 5y ago
The bad ass dudes you speak of have no reason to fight the system. I hate to include myself amongst their numbers, because it sounds like bragging, but I can fuck as many sluts as I want, and when I want a relationship, such as currently, I’m able to find a girl more than a decade younger interested in being lead through life and wanting to start a family before 23. Why would I go out and want to punch women, women give me everything I want, I love women.
banthrow 5y ago
Yes but there are 100 white-knight cucks for every bad-ass dude out there.
Luckyluke23 5y ago
yeah because being unemployed and having NO sexual partners because you femo fucks killed the marketplace with your every growing need for high-quality alphas.
yeah... great spoils there.
Guardian_of_Justice 5y ago
What a ...logical lady there. I am glad there are still many women like this in my country and in Asia in general. But the millenials and generation Y is hopelessly ruined everywhere... which is so sad.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
As a millennial I’ve been disgusted with my generation for quite a long time
Guardian_of_Justice 5y ago
All i see is shallow girls looking for online validation while treating everything else as 'shallow' at the slightest swing of their mood. Ofc. I get it they are just teenagers, but the way they grow up constantly being fed with dopamine from the internet makes them irresponsive to real-life stimuli such as a good conversation. At least that is my view. Games and internet addiction did not affect me in a good way.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Yeah it’s all its all fucked
360_no_scope_upvote 5y ago
I'm interested on her take of the future. But I'm more interested in our future. We're stuck in the Twilight zone where women are positively cherished, is it possible for it to flip to the point where women are discarded like low smv men? I don't believe that can happen in my life time.
NormalAndy 5y ago
Good find.
“18 year old British kid from London posts top drawer information.” Nice one son!
It’s encouraging to know that younger people are using the net to research important issues. Half the skirt chasers around here ( prob’ly including me) thought you were all lost in a sea of video games and porn.
Thanks for being exceptional.
[deleted] 5y ago
Well I mean I am kinda addicted to porn lol and tryin to swallow the pill. But I am getting there bro. Thanks for the kind words :)
NormalAndy 5y ago
Well, I’m happy to point you in the direction of the iron- it’s a much better hobby than the Barry Horn. Lift...
calicotrinket 5y ago
Hey mate, glad to see you rise out of the mess that is London, with all the socialists and feminists. Keep fighting the good fight, and don't let those communist morons get to you.
[deleted] 5y ago
I swear to God I was in class and I opened up reddit on my phone because I finished my break. i then see your comment and start chuckling to myself because we were at that very lesson being taught about socialism, karl marx, Frederich Engles. What a world we live in..
ProgressiveAlpha 5y ago
You lost me when you quoted someone who blamed "the left" and spoke about Eve. These little political jabs and religious insinuations are bad form in the gentlemanly art of discussing manhood.
Edit: I did go back and read the whole thing. I fundamentally disagree with the suppositions made that the freedom of career women is fake. I have no intention of picking any fights, but want it represented for others to know that some of us disagree with this thinking and don't view it as true support for TRP. My hunch about politics was right, this is more about conservatism and propaganda for it than about our status as men in a world of empowered women. Fuck, give me a strong, smart, working, stable woman any day. She's just as good as Holly Housewife if her femininity compliments my masculinity.
[deleted] 5y ago
The left is despicable and responsible for most of our social ills. Sorry if that obvious truth makes you uncomfortable.
Not sure how anyone could be a red Piller and a leftist. I don’t have much tolerance for them anymore.
ProgressiveAlpha 5y ago
See, that sounds just as dumb whether the left or right is blamed. And, if your entire position statement can be reversed by changing one word, you've done nothing but make a blanket statement with a high probability of being bullshit. I know some bright conservatives, but they tend to be there to ring lead the weak and mentally feeble.
Okay, no more bashing... Real world stats you can check. You know, all these BPs that TRP is often trying to save? Some of them have evangelized TRP and replaced their white knight tendencies towards women with saving bros instead. Anyway, why do so many of them skew conservative if they need saving from themselves? Tends to make me think that conservatism is a left over (no pun intended) ill effect that all to often some guys forget to shake off.
Ooohhh... Wanting to fund education and infrastructure has made us so socially ill. Fuck off with that noise.
And plus, some of you had shit women in your lives. Mom, sisters, whatever. The women in my life prior to adulthood had personal quirks like everyone, but that meant they were human. Some guys in here are looking at really fucked up examples of women and viewing that as archetypal rather than understanding how the archetype got so extreme in that one individual female. Fuck, go read Carl Jung and educate yourselves.... Unless you want to bitch more about those of us trying to fund your ability to do so and get the support of teachers and mentors. Fucking blaming the "left"... Such noise.
[deleted] 5y ago
No place for leftists here anymore. The debate is over. There's only victory or defeat at this point.
ProgressiveAlpha 5y ago
Nah. We're here and we're doing quite well. If you don't like it, that's actually an emotional problem for you to work out within yourself. You upvote and agree with some of us every day.
rebelde_sin_causa 5y ago
For average and lower SMV women, for whom the wall comes earlier and harder, this all turned out to be true. It's a harder world for them than it used to be. But this isn't noted so much, because nobody really cares about them or notices them when they aren't involved in a protest parade. They've become like average SMV men in that they have become invisible. Having achieved what they thought they wanted, they find out it's not so great, as they now have all the same problems men have. And that must be somebody else's fault. So feminism rolls on.
But for the high SMV women, women's lib hasn't been a loss. How can it be, when they still control all the desirable pussy. The wall eventually comes for them too, but thanks to modern medicine and ever more ubiquitous gyms, it comes later than it used to. So that now they can ride the CC all the way to 50+ before they really start hitting the wall. Living in an affluent area, where all the plastic surgeons are, I see it all around me.
The "good girls" all got taken young, around college age or so. They exist. I know some of them. If she is still riding the CC past mid 20s, or has somehow become single again towards middle age through some other cause than widowhood, she is a plate and nothing more.
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JDRoedell 5y ago
Excellent piece by an enlightened woman. The most poignant part is her NY friend describing how he would never marry the career woman he was dating. She wasn’t marriage material, just good for sex. Sound familiar to anyone? It’s like the male version of alpha fucks and beta bucks. The smart, RP men know that it’s in their best interest to ride the pussy parade with all the sexually liberated women and then settle down with the “good girl” who just wants to be submissive to the right man. Too bad feminism is making those types more and more rare.
redpillcad 5y ago
God help the contented women who will be their victims!
Best case, these women are ballbusting career shrikes who pay nannies to raise their kids. The kids likely become gender fluid equalst losers. Dad usually a low t happywifehappylife schmuck cuck
Worst case, dead end job that barely pays the rent and sky high cat food bills. Good thing you dont need no man cause a good one won't ever stick around except for a pump and dump.
PhattyBacon 5y ago
Yikes your first example is my parents.
banthrow 5y ago
Women don't understand there' a fucking reason virginity in women is universally wanted across all cultures and religions. I'm 40 now and I understand than the more n count a girl has, the worst marriage or even LTR material she is. Just try it, a high n count girl will dump you/cheat you without a single thougth.
As an alpha with lots of plates you dont give a fuck about that, but as a man trying to raise a family, that behavior is not only unacceptable, it's incredibly dangerous for you and your kids. You instinctively reject those behaviors. A basic instinct in men is to be repulsed by a skank, even if you fuck her.
Liberated women are liberating themselves from any future meaningful relationship in life. Thing is, there's a moment when women need it, they aren't 25 forever. The government now provides for most of the things a women needed from men, that is sustenance for kids, security, etc. But they cannot hug the government. They feel loneliness a lot more than men. I never saw a old feminist women that is not alone.
It will be interesting to see how the government will try to fix loneliness in women, because sure as hell they will try.
Psychocist 5y ago
True. I went through a string of 2 dozen skanks when I started applying what I read here, and then met a virgin. I'm thankful I've been able to experience a woman in her true feminine form. But the internet has allowed ideas to spread extremely fast. Internet dating and hook-up apps are available anywhere there is an internet connection.
It is tragic to watch a traditionally oriented society head for destruction. I'm in Thailand at the moment, and though there are plenty of low n-count, family-oriented women, there is also a brewing hook-up culture. Most normal chicks are surrounded by ruined slags as they go through college and uni and start having their first (ideally long-lasting) relationships. Now they say "if you break up, you will become a stronger woman" in response to the agony/anxiety of building a strong bond with someone.
This is all risk management from our perspective, of course. But how do you resolve that risk? Low n count isn't enough - can she only mingle with other low n count women?
lastdumra 5y ago
They are giving them pills. A lot of women, much higher percentage than males, are on anti depressants. Its sad really.
U-94 5y ago
That's the whole 'woman at home alone drinking wine' in their late 30s, early 40s meme.
red_matrix 5y ago
Women think by acting like sluts and getting all the male attention that they have become liberated, they feel empowered and strong but they don't realize that men are just using those hoes for their holes. They don't get it. They are creating their own loneliness.
petallotus 5y ago
Men do prefer sex with sluttier women though. Relationship part is different. You don’t want to roughly fuck a good girl as much as you want to fuck a slut’s brain out.
red_matrix 5y ago
There are no unicorns, just sluts and sluts in training.
petallotus 5y ago
Not unicorns, I’m talking about virgins
DownyGall 5y ago
And at least old spinsters back in the day still bought into the system. Now the old spinsters want to bring us further down into hell.
zephyrprime 5y ago
A lot of those spinsters back in the day were virgins so they're not at all like the modern day divorcee/polyamorous spinster.
DownyGall 5y ago
I just think of It's a Wonderful Life with the alternate history where Mary (Jimmy Stewart's wife) is a mousy librarian. If that happened today, Mary would be a hair-dyed whore
Your_Coke_Dealer 5y ago
The old spinsters of years past ran head first into the wall, took the hurt, and shouted to the spinsters behind them “watch out, there’s a wall ahead”.
The spinsters of today run into wall just as hard, but the government holds a pillow out in front of them so they don’t hurt so much that they warn the ladies behind them.
ddiogenesofsinope 5y ago
What a great piece. She knows exactly what is up.
'Why buy the cow if the milk is free'
The only thing she didn't get right was aliomony. Women are still not pushed or positioned to pay for alimony. Despite how 'free' they all are and want to be to do so.
SkorchZang 5y ago
That's a superb find. Thank you for posting!
[deleted] 5y ago
No problem. I found it on a conspiracy website, it makes me sad and happy at the same time. Happy because theredpill is true and sad because we are in decline. Im 18 and quite confused tbh.
SkorchZang 5y ago
It is very important to understand "Eve's Con Game" as she calls it. The con exists because Nature demands it.
You can do two things with it:
It's an antidote to feminism
They respond very positively after the initial surprise when she'll think to herself - "how the hell do you know this, you're a guy you're not supposed to!". Once she realizes that you know the con, but out of your masculine magnanimity encourage her to play it out with you, you're on a different level than most men she's ever met.
expansion101 5y ago
What do you mean by on a different level than most?
Most guys aren't able to pull oneitis investment out of a girl. My experience tells me that at that point of realization yet acceptance from you, she would become her most emotionally invested should you be her top pick of men.
SkorchZang 5y ago
It's possible yeah, and feels sweet. You will be "unlike any other guy" to her and she won't really know why she feels that way.
This still isn't foolproof hypergamy insurance because women are gonna women regardless of what you do.
banthrow 5y ago
Exactly. It's not a con, it's nature's best way to raise 10 kids per family, as it was needed since 1 millions years ago.
It's true, in Russia women and men work, also Russians are famous for having alcohol and psychological problems. No kid will raise optimally in a home missing one of the parents.
bloocher 5y ago
There is almost no difference between Russia and the United States now. In Russia 57% percent of women work, in the US - 56%. It's almost the same in other Western countries: UK - 57%, Finland - 55%, Germany - 55%.
The idea that 'women in Russia work' is rooted in 'the golden age' of 50s, which was a very singular period. The United States were dominating World Economy, all the competitors lied in ruins. The country was prospering, the salaries were high, so it was possible to support a family on single income. On the other hand Russia lost millions men in WWII and had shortage of hands in post-war reconstruction projects. Note also, that during the WWII, all the warring countries had to increase women workforce participation.
If you take a look at the data presented above, you can see that women work more in poor countries where the economy is dominated by agriculture and less in rich oil countries or traditional countries with high unemployment level. In this sense, US in 50s were similar to the Saudi Arabia of today.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
Feminism is a trade union for ugly women.
That said, women are lied to about life, reproduction, how they “don’t need no man”, etc. It’s sad. They see the rewards of what men do, but not the work that we do to earn them. They only want the good bits of being a man, not the difficult parts.
Women: PROUD, STRONG and INDEPENDENT! Until things get the teensiest bit difficult. If men stopped doing what we do, civilization would last until the first oil change.
Further reading; The Before Time...a TRP Origin Story.
Cesare_MA 5y ago
Never before have I seen an entire movement so accurately described.
ECoast_Man 5y ago
It's a telling sign that the most stressful events in a woman's work day revolves around her outfit and who has 'acting bitchy' on a given day.
JDRoedell 5y ago
Spot on. My wife has a friend (about 38 years old, career woman, no kids, no boyfriends) who recently confessed this exact sentiment to my wife over lunch one day. She even said she felt she’d been lied to about how to live her life. She’s looking into freezing her eggs now. Feminism hurts women just as much as men.
antariusz 5y ago
At 38 it’s basically already too late for her to freeze eggs and have reproductive success later.
JDRoedell 5y ago
Unfortunately for her, I think you’re right. Sucks too because she’s not bad looking and is not a bitch. Another casualty of the feminist machine
antariusz 5y ago
I have no sympathy for women like that. When I was 18 and a virgin she wouldn’t have even wanted to hold a conversation with me (I turn 36 this month). Instead she has (most likely) been getting pumped and dumped by chad for the past 18 years, and I have become Chad, got tired of being Chad, and now bang a 19 year old who wants a family all within the past 10 years.
Well no, I take it back, I do feel sorry for retarded people. If she had been slightly above average intelligence, she would have figured it out. But not everyone can be above that 50% threshold however as much “not a bitch” and a “poor little victim with no agency” she is. There were plenty of opportunities in her life to settle for a beta. She chose the wrong path.
redpillbanana 5y ago
Amazing read. It's hard to believe it was written almost 50 years ago as it is so applicable today.
Especially this bit:
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Yeah I cued in on that specifically too. They’d be shocked if they could see us now. The decline is very real and irreversible. And yet the left still has great success deceiving people with its narratives of “progress”.
Ramesses_ 5y ago
A brilliant article from a very clever and self aware lady. There's been a few around over the years.
The big change from her day to our day is the shaming power of the matriarchy. Shame is a feminine tool. In a world of feelings over facts where your perception matters more than objective reality shame is a very powerful tool. Making someone feel bad can literally change the world - in that it makes them change their actions. Women use it on each other to great success and when they try to use it on us we call it a shit test. But are we all really passing this shit test as a whole? Of course not. 99%+ of modern western men are failing it miserably and thus the rise of shaming power has been stratospheric in the last decade or so. Women now have the power to ruin careers and lives by simply accusing you of wrongthink. If you hold an unlicensed opinion such as men and women aren't the same it could currently cost you everything but your life.
I know you all want to talk about this stuff but it is very, very important in this sort of climate that you keep your mouths shut and know your goddam audience. Do not go spouting off red pill truths to blue pill mates or in the workplace. Do not share articles like this anywhere it could affect your real life. You've identified some incredibly powerful knowledge. It's your job now to use that for your own benefit. Not to sacrifice yourself on the great burning pyre of "toxic masculinity". When we say enjoy the decline that is exactly what we're talking about. Making use of your red pill knowledge in a blue pill world. Not turning a blue pill world red.
That said, very good find OP. Keep up the sharing in our last safe space, the red pill.
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I tend to think western civilization is too far gone to possibly be saved. One thing that could maybeee bring us back though is if enough women experience the loneliness and dispair that the feminist lifestyle leads to they might speak out. Fat chance though. They will almost certainly never accept responsibility for their actions.
johnbranflake 5y ago
Shaming only has power because we are silent and afraid of it.
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We have a tendency to overestimate the reaction against lefties/feminism because 1: we want it to be true, 2: we’re in a bit of an ideological bubble ourselves since we self segregated out of mainstream culture/media.
Sure, Peterson’s popularity has exploded, but mostly among people who already agree with him.
Mattcwu 5y ago
That all makes sense. Don't we also overestimate the strength of lefties/feminism for the same reason?
akolyteofthecentury 5y ago
Isn't that because they're the loud, annoying minority - as in "squeaky wheel gets the grease" - and only after people realize that they've been duped do they come to the sort of space that merely wants to be left to itself? The tough tones don't get drowned out, so the disillusioned find their way here to finally have peace discussing ideas that lefties would deem "problematic" and would ban/mute you for expressing. At least that's my 2ct. on the issue
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Thats a great piece brother, thank you. I was just thinking if I showed this tomorrow to my economics or politics teachers at school I would be excluded straight away. Makes you think really..
AggressiveMarket 5y ago
Exactly. Western civilization is fucked. Europe and North America are going the way of the Roman Empire... enjoy the decadence & decline, because Islam is coming.
kingcanuck0 5y ago
Expect a new wave of fascism and the volksverräters lined up in front of the wall before Europeans capitulate to saracen dogs.
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reluctantly_red 5y ago
WTF? That's quite a leap of logic.
NomBok 5y ago
It might seem like a leap of logic, and they're not quite related, but he's right. In Islam you're taught to have a shit ton of kids. In countries that are taking in "refugees" the birthrates of muslims is multiple times higher than Europeans. Eventually they will have enough to elect officials (see: Sadiq Khan). Eventually they may very well become a majority. Even if not, they brought extremely violent culture with them. It's no coincidence, for example, that anti-semetic attacks in Europe have greatly increased when you bring in millions and millions of followers of an ideology that at it's core hates jews. As more and more third world migrants move in, it will be more and more likely they'll be violent towards (and get away with) those they "hate less" but still hate nonetheless, which is anyone who isn't muslim.
The leap of logic can basically be summarized by the so-called "Paradox of Tolerance".
conflagratorX 5y ago
It would be 'fun' when they became majority in developed countries and take over nuclear arsenal those countries already have.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Europe needs immigrants. Refugees make very good citizens -- if treated well they're incredibly loyal to the country that gave them refuge (I saw this first hand in Canada with refugees from Chili, Iran, and Central America).
Also birthrates can and do change rapidly. Not long ago Italy had one of the highest birthrates in Europe -- now it has one of the lowest. Quebec used to have the highest birthrate in Canada -- now it has the lowest.
NomBok 5y ago
Maybe if they're true refugees. Most of them right now are pure economic migrants. 90% of them are fighting age, undeducated men, not the women, children, doctors and engineers the media has been saying.
PsychedelicDentist 5y ago
Trust me, this guy see's what's coming. Mass migration and 'multiculturalism' is failing.
Europeans will be a minority in their home countries in the next 50years
reluctantly_red 5y ago
This is a bad thing? Europeans have had their run. Time for us brown people to have a go. You took our countries -- turnabout is only fair.
I'm a Puerto Rican atheist BTW.
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max_peenor 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Ricans
"Over 90% of Puerto Ricans descend from migrants from these two southern regions of Spain."
What happens when the brown people are European?
I've seen your posts. You are better than this. No more race baiting--from any of you. Zero or I'll call the mods in and I'm pretty sure they will end it.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Sure we have some European heritage -- and some Native American -- and some African. Net result we're generically brown.
max_peenor 5y ago
Some? Have you ever been to Southern Spain?
Oh, and there are a whole lot of pale white people running around the snowcaps of North America and Asia. None of them are even remotely European.
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NormalAndy 5y ago
Yup- Islam has been here for 1500 years.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Islam isnt coming to take over that’s the ridiculous. Islam is a contributor to the destabilization here. But I think radical governments are more to fear as what’s coming down the pike.
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Dude it’s already taking over Europe. Give it 30 more year. demographics
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
I think you and the other downvoters misunderstand my point here. I’m thoroughly versed on what’s going on in Europe. But to call that a “takeover” is not accurate. It’s a big fuckin problem I know, and I know with the birth rates it will be an even bigger problem. But even in 30 years, Islam won’t half of the population. They have zero institutional control. That’s not “takeover”. It’s just a major destabilizing force. Euros will revolt if Islam starts infiltrating the institutions in a serious way. They’re already forming nativist parties all over the continent and Islam is under 10% of the population.
Europe is gonna be politically turbulent in the next decade. And a contributor to the destabilization is this Islam problem.
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I mean no one can predict the future, but whatever happens is certainly not going to be good. If America gets control of its illegal immigration situation now (unlikely but possible) and returns to our old assimilation model for those already here, things will probably be ok. We know how to do this and we have a history of figuring immigration out.
Europe on the other hand has no idea what its doing. As awful as our illegal immigration situation is, the vast majority of illegal Mexicans here just want to work. Hispanic culture is different than our culture, but not so different as to make it unworkable. The Islamic migrants on the other hand are a hostile foreign culture that has absolutely nothing in common with the west. They seek to expand their religion, culture, and even legal systems into Europe. They support terrorism. The vast majority do not work at all, and their culture does not value hard work. The out outbreeding native Europeans at a frightening pace.
America has a chance of righting its immigration problem. Europe is completely fucked unless they do mass deportations, which I just do not see happening.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Yeah I agree with all that. We’re lucky cuz Mexicans are pretty chill. The issue is if things start heading more socialist with more free stuff, combined with open border is insane.
The US is fucked anyway tho. Immigration isn’t the big issue. The institutions are failing and jobs for the younger gens are deteriorating from globalization and soon AI. Social and political unrest is the entire horizon, possibly in a radical way.
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Right, but illegal immigration exacerbates all the problems of globalization and AI. And now that we have a welfare state it strains our finances to the breaking point. That's not even talking about the obvious problem of having a fifth column that speaks its own language and refuses to assimilate.
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scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
That’s exactly my point. Democratic socialism will get more and more aggressive.
But the election of trump doesn’t mean shit dude. we ain’t turning this around.
WarViper1337 5y ago
I think you need to take a good hard look at europe then and what the import of millions of muslims is doing to them.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Yeah I know exactly what’s going on in Europe. They’re fucked especially when the Muslims outbreed them. But even after that they will still be a minority. And it’s different from a takeover. It’s a highly destabilizing dynamic and will lead to societal turbulence and radical govs.
Pushthepedal 5y ago
The government and those in power benefit from society as it is. A society in mental chains is easier to control.
dankvibez 5y ago
True chads are the only ones benefiting from the current society. Women suffer, most men have to work 100x harder than they would to get laid. The only winner is the guys at the top who don't need to work crazy hard to obtain the affection of many females.
Basically, since mating is competitive, we will all end up working much harder to achieve the same level of mate we would before. The end goal for men should be to compete with each other less, end the rat race, and take certain rights away from women. The lessons from TRP about how to get laid are nice, but they are only temporary. The end goal is to spread the knowledge we gain, so that we don't have to play these stupid games anymore and waste less time on women.
JamesSkepp 5y ago
Tradcon is a BP slavery system for men, as is all marriage.
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That’s absurd. It may be folly to marry in today’s climate, but traditional marriage is what builds civilizations. Without it the sexual marketplace is very uneven and the society is not stable. Strictly enforced monogamy unlocks a society’s power as every man now has a wife, and this gives a motivation to defend the society and engage in productive economic activity.
Can’t believe you could be so misguided.
JamesSkepp 5y ago
At the cost of masculinity.
Marriage is BP primarily b/c it sacrifices man's sexual strategy for the sake of female one. On a more practical note - you enter her frame forever and you willingly give commitment without being required to do so. That is putting the collar around your neck yourself.
Not true. SMP is not meant to be even, it's meant to facilitate natural selection. Let the best one's genes win etc.
Maybe in prehistory or very deep in ancient times. We haven't had a war b/c of lack women for thousands of years. At current point, we have enough technology and logistical capability behind us that we can divorce, pun intended, the need for marriage with the stability of the civilisation.
Can't believe you can cling to the outdated concepts so much.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Yet necessary for civilization
conflagratorX 5y ago
Reducing women promiscuity does not necessary mean that we will return to society where only men has to provide for family.
CapnPoot 5y ago
Brb studying necromancy to bring back the only NAWALT in history
SkorchZang 5y ago
Might want to google her pic first bro. Abort mission.
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What part of "England" did you not understand?
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CapnPoot 5y ago
Never said id shtoop ????
The world needs more logical women
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No, the world needs women to shut up and do as they’re told.
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187oddfuture 5y ago
It's an article, not the OP.
ZeroSixNiner 5y ago
Pretty sure you didn't read the post. Especially the beginning where it clearly states that this is taken from an article written by the woman, Taylor Caldwell, in 1970.
kjlh9 5y ago
Thanks at work and skimmed the first bit.