so many post here always state that op is smashing the whole town and etc with no problem and it's on the girl to understand that.
but then they have a meltdown if one of their plates is fucking someone else.
why the double standard? from what i read, a plate is a no commitment thing. as long as she's not outright disrespecting you, its fair game.
if you are over here treating her like a gf (me and you against the world, etc) , arent you plating wrong? (lets be real , alot of people here are)
just looking for a explanation
FeralRed 5y ago
Because people here are confused and treat the plates like the girlfriends like the FWB and don't take any time to understand that these words have definitions and are part of a hierarchy that just happens to be on the sidebar of the main sub.....How to manage bitches
Stop trying to find meaning in the scribbles of first year schoolboys and open up the textbooks first.
[deleted] 5y ago
This is the best damn advice I’ve read on here in at least one year. that last sentence. yes.
endertheend 5y ago
Thank you for this. The Op shouldn't have even needed to ask this question, It reeks of common blooper troll -confrontational writing. Which is stupid, OP is wasting his time instead of a)lifting b)working on his mission.
OP's question has nothing to do with either of those.
SirKolbath 5y ago
If I may add to this, OP, it isn't the fucking someone else that breaks a plate. It's the fucking someone else and hiding it. That is deceit and is not to be tolerated. Not only is she lying to you and cucking you, but she's putting your health at risk to do so. If she's lying to you about the act, she's probably also lying to you about how it was done rawdog.
MuhTriggersGuise 5y ago
If she's a plate you shouldn't even be asking if she's fucking someone else let alone caring. There shouldn't be anything for her to hide.
Redycha 5y ago
She's a plate, the point is that its non-committal on both ends. Neither of you should be talking about other lays. It's none of your business who she's fucking, just the same as it's none of hers about who you're fucking.
Health at risk? Wrap up, always. She's a goddamn plate. The only time you should be bothered by who she's sleeping with is if you be set some hard boundaries: family, close friends etc. In which case you next her.
PR0JECT_XIII 5y ago
Personally, you are spot on!
There is this one plate I am currently seeing once every couple of weeks, she has the potential to become an LTR but she has to put in the work. Cause we both lives a two hours away from each other there is a real possibility we are both fucking other people. I don't ask, I don't care what she is doing, I am not hounding her wanting to know who she is talking to, or what she did over the weekend - that is not what I am asking from her.
If she wasn't interested in seeing me she has every opportunity to flake, dodge or ghost. Instead when I see her she makes me breakfast, doesn't hesitate at all when I want to fuck her, I extend and invite to join me in the shower, and minutes later she is showering with me...
I haven't seen her in a couple of weeks as I have been doing what I want to do. So this weekend when I see her and I will have to establish where I am at.
If shit is not working for you, go back to the basics. Stop being so emotionally bound up and wanting to know everything.
SirKolbath 5y ago
You do you. That's fine, but that is not how I choose to operate with my plates. They can do whatever they want, provided they are open and honest about it.
I don't see why this is such a difficult concept to understand. I don't give a shit who she fucks. I care about being lied to. I don't lie and I don't tolerate those who do. This isn't goddamn rocket surgery.
Think of it as a test, if you can't grasp it any other way. If she lies to me, she fails and is nexted.
donkeydodo 5y ago
Are you implying that if the plate doesn’t openly state that she is fucking other dudes, she’s lying? By definition that’s not lying in itself, if you however ask if she is fucking others, says no but is in fact doing so, she’d be lying to you and that I can agree upon that I wouldn’t want that either
SirKolbath 5y ago
I think what entertains me the most about this particular thread is that the same halfwit boobs who don't understand why not allowing your plate to pick up men while on a date with you isn't mate guarding are also the ones absolutely failing to understand the difference between a plate who fucks other men, and one who goes behind your back to fuck other men.
Tolerating such behavior is scarcity mentality in action, but I'm out of this thread. I've had all the idiocy I can handle and I'm going to the gym. Good night, kids.
Iwannachokekatie 5y ago
You sound pretty butthurt.
epicfadeout 5y ago
all the idiocy you can handle? cmon man, you're the one who used the term "rocket surgery"...
cl3537 5y ago
You just proved the OP's point and I don't think you get it either.
I don't wave in my plates face that fact I am fucking other women, nor do I ask them who else they are fucking I use a condom and have a don't ask don't tell policy.
If on the other hand I 'forgot to mention' who else I was fucking and then got butthurt when I found out she was fucking someonelse and not telling me than I would be you.
SirKolbath 5y ago
Whatevs, kiddo.
What part of, "It is the lie, not the act" are you wilfully ignoring here?
You are neither smart enough nor good enough looking to be me, and you certainly don't understand my point.
Perhaps you enjoy being lied to. I do not. The fact that you're willing to tolerate it is indicative of scarcity mentality. Good luck working on that.
MuhTriggersGuise 5y ago
Lol
cl3537 5y ago
Maybe you need an intelligence check you aren't as smart as you think you are. Go take an IQ test.
The last paragraph i wrote was written in a perjorative way because you DO get butthurt when you find out one of your plates is sleeping with someonelse and didn't tell you about it.
My plates have no need to lie to me EVER I don't put them in that position unless I want to promote them and then they aren't plates anymore.
TheRedPike 5y ago
Enough of the asshole AMOG shit.
cl3537 5y ago
I think my point has been made so I will stop in this thread.
If you ask a plate if she is also plating you, you are asking for trouble. If she then subsequently lies to you about it then its your fault.
Shockblocked 5y ago
You get lied to. You just choose to disbelieve
SirKolbath 5y ago
Oh, God, I'm sorry. Does that happen to you? Maybe you should try not tolerating it, then.
Shockblocked 5y ago
I'm not about this life
red_matrix 5y ago
How exactly is she 'cucking' you? It's a zero commitment relationship centering on fucking.
SirKolbath 5y ago
By lying. If it's open, it's with permission. If she's hiding it, it's obviously not.
red_matrix 5y ago
She's a plate, and a woman, and if she's reasonably attractive she will have endless options on Tinder or Instagram. Self control doesn't exist for single women anymore. Adapt or die.
SirKolbath 5y ago
Am I failing to communicate here? It's the lie that is the issue, not any other aspect of the act. It is practicing wilful deceit. I don't care if she fucks her way across the west coast, as long as she doesn't lie to me about it. (Actually, I do, but let's not get any more esoteric because this one concept seems to be giving you more trouble than it should.)
I know she has options. I accept that. What I don't accept is her lying to me under any circumstances.
red_matrix 5y ago
Fair enough. If she's a plate I just assume she's fucking other guys. How would you even know?
Blackhawk2479 5y ago
Quite, and where does lying by omission fit into this?
I mean, like you, I assume plates are fucking other guys, I’m not gonna ask her, so if she doesn’t volunteer that information is that effectively lying?
Personally, I don’t care, and whilst lying is a dealbreaker for LTRs and even FWBs, plates I’m going to assume AWALT and not only will they be getting dicked down on the regular, but they’ll at best be doing it on the DL, at worst covering their tracks.
SirKolbath 5y ago
I am generally pretty open with my plates. Seems to keep things more pleasant when they break, and we both know they will break. I've had a couple start new relationships, break up, and wander back to me simply because I'm always open, never lie to them, and don't put pressure on them to do anything other than some things with their tongues that they probably get tired of doing after a while.
Blackhawk2479 5y ago
Well we’re 100% in agreement there - I’ve never seen the point in burning bridges unnecessarily.
TheReformist94 5y ago
Nope.youre wrong.as usual on this sub standards and integrity are applied to men and not women.if we fuck several girls and are not open about it we get bollocked for it,yet it's ok for a girl to fuck guys and not tell you?
red_matrix 5y ago
I get what you're saying - if she lies or disrespects you then hard next. My question is, why do you care what a plate does or who they fuck? A plate's a plate dude.
TheReformist94 5y ago
Because TRP is one sided applying standards to men making them to be honest to their plate that they're a plate and not an LTR so we don't "cheat on them" whilst they're sampling cock on the side as they please trying to get the best deal.
The fact is,plate or not plate,it suits her sexual strategy as whilst your sharing she's technically shopping
red_matrix 5y ago
I think you misunderstand what a plate is, you owe them nothing. It's not in the best interest for a woman to be a plate, it actually goes against commitment, which is what they want and want you control.
RedPilledRoaster 5y ago
because they don't know what a plate is
ANGRY_ATHEIST 5y ago
I'm sorry, what's the problem?
Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment. A woman who will have sex with anybody is as pathetic as a "nice guy" who will marry any woman who gives him attention.
Men and women are different, so they are held to different standards. Holding them to the same standards is a disservice to both sexes.
Women who have a lot of sex partners lose their ability to pair bond. This makes them great for sex, but terrible if you're looking for an LTR.
These are all very basic tenets of TRP and in the sidebar reading material.
i_pathfinder1 5y ago
Maybe we feel like we can train them toremebr their place as women?
NightwingTRP 5y ago
Because there are dimwits here who do not use terminology correctly and use plate spinning language to describe serial monogamy. The two are not the same and have different levels of investment and any long term Red Piller will tell you that LTR and plate spinning are two wildly different games that you should play in very different ways.
In short: these guys have not really swallowed the pill or understood the material.
soulmysold 5y ago
Simply because you don’t want STDs.
02537-41101 5y ago
They’re people too. And like you, they have their own autonomous emotional needs. Nexting a side-piece for sleeping with somebody else shows a dented mental fragility.
You should be fine with the prospect of someone non-exclusive with you sleeping with somebody else. You don’t owe each other that sort of loyalty if all you have between you is sharing your cummies.
djh860 5y ago
Dude have some self respect !
Ramesses_ 5y ago
You need the sidebar as much as those guys. Men and women are not the same. That's red pill number one. Terms like double standard are just blue pill conditioning, a bizarre attempt to convince us men are like women and women are like men. That is not the truth. Promiscuity in women is a deeply ingrained turn off for any healthy male. It is the opposite for women. Men want to be their partner's first. Women want to be their partner's last. Again, men and women are very, very different.
Bruchibre 5y ago
Happy to read someone else saying that. I had read it somewhere else maybe 10 years ago and never saw it again. Back then I told that to my (now ex) Girlfriend, her reaction was: “So men don’t care if their girl sleeps with other men after?” How stupid. No wonder she’s an ex.
cl3537 5y ago
Newflash for you buddy, the sidebar isn't a tome of knowledge. It isn't specific enough on many topics including this one and doesn't cover everything.
It is ridiculous for you to claim the sidebar defends you fucking multiple women and then getting butthurt when you find out she is doing the same with men.
I could care less that women can more easily fuck(and some do) multiple men at a time that is irrelevant to the argument.
DiggerClam 5y ago
No. 1: How the hell would you know what your plate is doing or fucking? If you're asking her about it you're a fucking needy retard.
No. 2: If she rocks up to your house and starts blabbing about other dudes that she's fucking, that is both DISRESPECTFUL and she's creating DRAMA. Both of those things you don't want and that is definitely cause for nexting her.
dream-hunter 5y ago
No. 2 could be a shit test.
cl3537 5y ago
BOOM argument closed thank-you.
zboo1h 5y ago
Funny thing: I don't care much if a girl fucks someone else unless she decides to bring that information to me, which is trying to start drama, so she's gone - not for fucking someone, but for telling me about it.
Second funny thing: girls forgive guys a million times quicker and easier for getting side pussy, it's in our fucking biology and subconsciously they're aware of that. Girls will only get mad if you take that slut out for a happy meal or something afterwards, which to me is also bullshit but that's the fucked up female perspective. I can stick my tongue in this dumb bitch's asshole but I'm not allowed to buy her some McNuggets? What the fuck?
JustChopItOff 5y ago
And some women project their preferences ("I don't care if he cheated as long as it wasn't enotional") on to us ("I slept with him but it didn't mean anything!")
6ThornmailRammus 5y ago
"Guys this girl breathed in my direction. How should I proceed with this plate of mine"
redhawkes 2 5y ago
Because the lazy asshats haven'r read anything about plates and use that term left and right without understanding its meaning.
Also, you'll read bullshit like potential plate, *my plate disrespects me how should I react**, the one you mentioned with fucking other dudes and similar variations of it.
Plate - series of holes you use as a human flashlight. Also, no such a thing as a plate, that's called gf. It's the most common misinterpretation you'll read here.
vandaalen 5y ago
I am sitting here on the toilet, crying tears of joy all over my phone.
XT3M3 5y ago
see thats one thing i myself had to learn. a plate isnt a plate till u have more than 1. other wise its a fwb/ potential gf.
didn't rollo say you can have plates you dont fuck tho? or did i read that wrong.
redhawkes 2 5y ago
You should be aware that the potential gf has to go thru the plating process at least for 6 months to vet her for red flags.
If you ain't fucking her, you're her girl friend/plate.
assholeofthesky 5y ago
why would you have plates you don't fuck, that's a potential plate. not a plate
XT3M3 5y ago
i was confused as hell while reading that in rational male.
AnjaJutta 5y ago
I knew this male model guy who was spinning several 7-9 girls at the time and he had this one girl who was a 6 on her very best day and they used to spend tons of time together and she was trying all the time to get with him but he made it a point to never have sex with her.
menial_optimist 5y ago
The problem I have with the plating concept is one needs to erode the natural bonding that happens between a man and women who engage together sexually. It requires both parties to be mutually exclusive objects for no other reason than each others sexual pleasure. I believe that it might be possible for a man to completely change his mind this way but 99% of women cannot, and will, even from the very beginning, hope for an LTR with at least one of the guys they are screwing. I have a hard time with the concept of knowing this and yet proceeding sexually anyway to "get as much out of her as you can" before she begins cracking due to the emotional rollercoaster.
To me this appears disingenuous, and the only argument I've seen against this is "bro, you don't think they manipulate men?". I'm going to have to read the sidebar more or hear a better argument before I'm convinced.
Peter_B_Long 5y ago
To me, as long as a plate is reliable and isn't disrespectful, she qualifies as a plate.
She can have sex with other guys it's fine, I'm using a condom.
Maybe some guys are screening their plates for an LTR which is why they get all butthurt when they suspect their plate is plating them.
At the end of the day it all comes down to your preference and boundaries. I'm ok with plates sleeping with other people because I'm sleeping with other people and I'll be open about it.
abudun79 5y ago
That is because those hardcore red pill sissys boys are emotionally attached and are only hamstering their "currently only plate" from oneitis into just a plate.
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 5y ago
These are not Red Pill men, and they do not understand plate theory if this happened.
Personally... plate relationships always operated on plausible deniability and dont ask-don't tell. It was ASSUMED that we were not exclusive; we didn't care because we liked being together when we were and it made our lives better than without.
If a plate started bringing others up in a bratty way- to invoke jealousy, attempt to hurt or anger me, or try to leverage my commitment (ha!), that would be breaking the plate social contract, and that would precipitate a natural end to the plate relationship.
Plates are by definition noncommittal. The apparent "double standard" is not a flaw in Red Pill canon, but a result of men not understanding the definition in the first place.
TryhardPantiesON 5y ago
No one wants to catch an STD bro. You can only control what girl you are going to bang, you can't contorl who your girl bangs.
Ruby_Red_Pill_Maker 5y ago
ITT you will see the male hamster at it's best!
ANGRY_ATHEIST 5y ago
What the fuck is this shit?
Remember when posts like this were banned for concern trolling? Good times.
Ruby_Red_Pill_Maker 5y ago
Thanks for the warning.
Deep_freeze202 5y ago
A woman fucking another man throws up a lot of red flags.
freew33zy 5y ago
Being that I have an LTR and plates, I don't expect plates to be exclusive to me--but it also does ruin my image of them when I know they are not. So, if I never find anything out with plates, I don't care; however, if I do, being that I already have regular sex from my LTR and whatever other plates I'm currently spinning, I do just lose appeal and unofficially next them.
Except in the case where she's taken when I get with her. But I only tend to smash those girls a couple times anyways.
RedHoodhandles 5y ago
Does your LTR know that you have side chicks? If yes, is she exclusive to you or does she have sidedick?
freew33zy 5y ago
Yes, and she's exclusive.
RedHoodhandles 5y ago
How did you establish that dynamic?
freew33zy 5y ago
She was a plate for a while. I spent a lot of time with her, genuinely had a lot of fun together even outside of sex, explained that I saw a future with her but right now I'm only a 20-year-old male who needed to spread his seed and not ready for real commitment. Also broke a rule here which is "don't talk about TRP" (no, I didn't use our terms you fucking autists) and explained things like how men naturally are more polygamous so it's kind of silly to pretend otherwise... and she was into it.
I think the most helpful thing for me establishing it was that we never had a "the talk." Neither of us ever sought that out. We are probably the most laid back people you will meet in real life, and that conversation is not one a chill person has haha. So, instead, she was just a plate who I gradually spent more time with and I kept the benefits as if she was still a plate.
Edit: just wanted to edit in that she's also aware I am anti-marriage, so no, the part above about a "future with her" isn't in reference to that. She'd be down to be a long-term GF.
Shockblocked 5y ago
So you think
freew33zy 5y ago
Even if she's not (pretty certain she is), what am I losing? If I called her my "main plate" instead of LTR and did the exact same things, I'd be encouraged to not care about her fucking other people. This is definitely a step above that for the relationship between me and her while keeping myself available for others too. You have no point here, lol.
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DiggerClam 5y ago
You'd best cut your cock off then you won't be needing it anymore.
assholeofthesky 5y ago
you can never know that the person you're fucking is exclusive, it's just something you either accept or go blindly refusing to accept that humans will and do fuck others
blister333 5y ago
You’ll be sexless forever
red_matrix 5y ago
Don't bother getting married lol