“I’m a millionaire and guys I’m wondering, how do I close a sales call?” Like dude drop the facade and just accept the fact that you struggle lol

Not to be disrespectful here Jocbro, but it seems like every other week you're asking beginner questions and I can't quite square that hole.

I've seen what you look like. I KNOW you are high SMV. I don't really understand why you are coming up against these roadblocks - unless you're doing something extremely wrong.

Keep in mind I pay for the dates, let them stay over, etc

I don’t try to sleep with these women or do anything physical until like date 3/4 and only if it feels right.

Are you fucking on the first date or not? If not, that's probably where you're going wrong.

I know from personal experience, if you are decent SMV, girls expect you to fuck them on the first date. If you don't, they sense a mismatch between appearance (alpha) and reality (beta) - and they ghost.

It's kinda ironic. My beta buddies "take things slow", that works for them. If I try that, I'll get ghosted instantly.

And vice versa. If my buddies try escalating hard, they'll be shut down and ghosted.

If you really are interested in them, you should drop off-handed compliments like, "That's a quality I like to see in a wife." While it doesn't directly hint at a wanting a relationship, it does get their hamster spinning to make them think they have qualities that are considered to be wifely, and coming from you in particular, it must mean that you think they are wife material and that some day you'll marry them. I know it sounds like a bit of an exaggeration from nothing, but women have a tendency to blow up a situation to epic proportions.

Maybe the girls you are with are looking for quick hookups. I've played it like you have, nonchalant, don't press for sex until date 3/4 (even when I can tell they want it but I don't care because I'm having sex elsewhere), and it has worked fantastic for me. But it's also been with women a bit older than you're likely encountering and who want to come across as respectable. The best suggestion I have, and it's tricky, is to really try to read the situation. If the girl seems slutty and down for it, move forward on the first date. If not, use the strategy you've been using. A lot of this is learning by trial and error.

Todd Valentine has an amazing video on "premise versus intent"

It has served me unbelievably well

I can't answer or find it now until maybe tomorrow but it makes a world of difference for game

The gist of premise is that you allude to wanting/liking/or desiring to be with them or already having some sort of connection with directly showing any of your cards

Can't give examples right now but it is definitely a game changer (literally)

Rapport also goes a long way. There is a minimum level of rapport that will make a girl see you more than once or twice. You can fuck a girl's brains out for two hours and still blow it from insufficient rapport

Don't be afraid to show rapport.

Proper rapport is fundamentally different from being needy (the standard association of being "beta")

Your mysteriousness is completely spergy bro. If you don't give physical touch or give compliments, you'll come off like an asshole. Drop the fake Alpha shit.

If a girl does something good or has a trait you like, compliment her. It costs nothing. Or, you can continue to be a robot and keep getting ditched.

To answer your question: you show interest by simply being decisive and leading. You go after what you want with and from her.

Example: ""You have a great ass. Bring it over here in front of me". When she stands in front of you. Give it a light spank.

It's human nature to feel wanted. That's not a gender thing, that's universal. Go after what you want and state what you like. Find shit that you want to do and invite her with.

Ok, here's my take on this (good question by the way).

I've got two main takeaways on this:

• Fundamentally it is ok to be a bit sexually needy. But you must have zero emotional neediness.

• The difference between good escalation and desperation is how much you care if things don't go exactly according to plan.

So in an ideal world:

• You escalate sexually, you are a man after all
• You laugh everything off emotionally and/or don't care at all
• You are immune to shit tests because you have zero emotional needs from the situation
• If/when things go wrong you don't care because you have zero emotional needs from the situation

Why is this good for passing shit tests? Because shit tests are designed by women to test that you are not emotionally needy.

I figure nothing to lose so I texted 4 girls that ghosted me in past few months and asked for feedback..

This is a great thing to do, but I'd question how honest the answers are

the exact answer was a variation of “I didn’t think you were interested in me”

Interesting, but might not be true.

Keep in mind I pay for the dates, let them stay over, etc

If you pay for dates there is no investment from her which makes it easier for her to walk away.

How can I even overcome this? How do you seem non chalant/not needy while also displaying interest?

Well, your numbers are fine..... 50% of dates end after first date, 50% of the others end in sex.

I had a girl end it today because she felt more “like friends”.

What they say and the truth are rarely the same thing.

I picture a fat ugly dude when I hear that - I don’t try to sleep with these women or do anything physical until like date 3/4 and only if it feels right.

Um.

This sounds like absence of physical escalation.

Women will forgive escalating too fast. They will not forgive escalating too slow.

That is my natural default. Im not touchy feely or give compliments, which is great for potraying mysteriousness but seems to bite me more often than not.

Um.

Ok.

Compliments are dumb, they just put a person on a pedestal and don't help progress things forward.

Are you physically escalating? Touching, hugging, sexually touching / squeezing, in a sexual manner? I've got more to add, but a lot depends on the answer to this question.

That is my natural default. Im not touchy feely or give compliments, which is great for potraying mysteriousness but seems to bite me more often than not.

It may sound and feel good and natural, but if it isn't giving you the desired results then it isn't useful. Calibrate your game, maybe use more words, be more expressive. I started being less succint/mysterious and more chatty about simple stuff like how much I appreciate a sunset (which I do) and I get some nice feedback like more attention and getting questions about stuff. I'm having fun just talking about myself or any topic, not using the convo as catharsis for loneliness, and if it leads to a date then great.

Also, 3/4 dates is waaaaaaaaay too long for escalating physically, first date should have at the very least some gentle kissing, if it is somewhat early then you can mention you needed to break the ice. 2nd date should be no different, except you should try to isolate and escalate like going to your house early first (for "hot coffee" or something) and then going to the date afterwards.

You're pretty much giving asexual vibes if you're not doing anything physical until date 3-4. Free meals for her.