I'm not very experienced with women, but based off of what trp says heterosexual sexual/romantic interaction sounds absolutely exhausting for the man. Spending time around manipulative narcissists who are constantly try to distract and mislead me through "shit tests" and basically act like sociopaths doesn't sound any fun. I mean, I'm sexually attracted to them and all, but at some point you just want to give up and go home and save yourself all the trouble. I guess this would make me MGTOW or whatever. How do redpillians deal with this contradiction?
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Zackcid 10y ago
For one, we gotta admit that our community doesn't do justice 100% to the kind of good women can provide. While all the criticism we spit about them may be true in most cases, they still aren't Satan's offspring and some can have good qualities. You said it yourself "I'm not very experienced with women". It's easy to fall into this trap when you haven't savored the feminine essence.
All the shit tests, attitudes, traps, expenses, etc. can be avoided if you play your game right. Be awesome and every mind game she throws to you will bounce off, basically. There comes a point where the negatives don't even matter and you just enjoy the positives. I'm really beginning to feel this lately and I do remember hating women so much, so I know where you're coming from. I see MGTOW as cowards though.
Also, a big thing about adopting the Red Pill mindset is that you slowly begin to realize that all the shit women bring on the table is just their womanly nature. Shit tests are NORMAL. Most of the things we discuss here all have an evolutionary and physiological basis and you'll eventually accept things for what they are rather than fight them.
RedBigMan 10y ago
Taking The Red Pill is much like going through the stages of coping with grief. All of them have Anger as the last stage before things start getting better. I would like to point out that your anger at women is misplaced, it is very easy to blame women for things but ultimately the person you are angry with is yourself for not seeing through the lies and the bullshit sooner. You may also be angry at your parents (particularly any father figures you may have) and society for feeding you this bullshit your whole life.
[deleted] 10y ago
You need to read a few stoics. I suggest Marcus Aurelius. You need to see things for what they are. Do you hate snow for falling or squirrels for foraging acorns? It's just The way nature is. Women behave in a particular way that is entirely different from what you have been taught. Understand that fact and live in a reality based world.
TRPsubmitter 10y ago
Cognitive dissonance.
You are hating women because you have the wrong expectations for them. Don't hate someone for something they CANNOT be. Women are, by nature, manipulative, attention-seeking, inconsistent, emotional and hypergamous. Accept this truth. Once you do, you can game women for what they are...not what you want them to be.
HumanSockPuppet 10y ago
This is the proper answer.
Men become bitter about taking the red pill because it conflicts with their expectations.
But if your expectations disagree with reality, then it is your expectations which must change. Reality ain't going nowhere.
VoyPerdiendo1 10y ago
why is this score hidden?
HumanSockPuppet 10y ago
Because we can't trust the Russian judges to be impartial.
VoyPerdiendo1 10y ago
now i see it - so much downvoting. someone needs to get a life (and lose the jadedness).
[deleted] 10y ago
I need to print this and put it on my desk!!!
dropit_sphere 10y ago
A period of withdrawal can be healthy and constructive.
Your anger is caused by a mismatch of expectations and reality. The problem (as always) is the expectations: the reality, we can do nothing about.
Lower your expectations. See women for what they are: flawed creatures fed a bunch of lies (like you, in that respect). They're stuck in the Matrix too, you know.
RedSunBlue 10y ago
More for me.
ss_camaro 10y ago
It's like being in the circus with an attitude of 'amused mastery'. Sure you can fall off the tightrope, get bit by a tiger or bump into a carny or two, but you know what you're dealing with and what to expect.
The circus isn't the most reputable place in town.
EleriumAvenger 10y ago
It takes a little bit of time before the hatred will fade. you're at the point where the old Idea that all woman are saints and princess just was forcibly beaten from your head and you are seeing that most if not all of them as they are whores and bitches. Any positive traits a female has is because she is behaving to keep a valuable man in their life.
Nutz76 10y ago
not all shit tests are bad. I'm finding more often not they're just flirting. the thing is I have no idea if women were always like this or if that is a new development do to feminism. I suspect women always did this but it was toned way down because back in the day women didn't want to be perceived as being "difficult" as it's a very negative personality trait. With hookup culture and women's lib, the old style slut shaming and general values--being pleasant, demure, submissive--got tossed out with the bathwater.
Necromaze 10y ago
Thats all up to you, Your the one who decides how much you want to care. If you want to play the game you gotta follow the "rules" (TRP Rules that is) If not then your either going to lose or just not win as often as you'd like.
redpilldude 10y ago
I personally have gone mostly MGTOW. I've given up on the idea that I could have an emotionally fulfilling LTR with a woman.
Travis_McGee 10y ago
Hey man, I had similar views in a way. I posted to TRP and got a lot of advice. Check out this link if you want to look at all the comments. I found it very enlightening.
GaiusScaevolus 10y ago
It's a phase. Once you find success, the anger will turn to acceptance.You will learn to appreciate women for what they really are, and not what you wish they were.
Space_Tourist 10y ago
They will be these things if you are a bitch around them. However, if you act like a man and you don't let them manipulate you then they can actually be very amazing people and fulfilling company (depending on the woman, of course).