For example, it seems like things like tattoos can turn a boring dude into an attractive dude.

No you just turn into a loser with tats.

Post on Tinder.

• Does the scale say something more or less than it did two weeks ago? Am I going the direction I want to?

• Does the tape measure say more or less than it did two weeks ago? Am I going the direction I want to?

• Do I appear more fit to myself than I did 2 weeks ago? Am I going the direction I want to?

Base it off acheiving your personal goals and not the arbitrary judgment of others.

you can't.. that's for model shoots and magazines.. And even those determined by the ad..

Lol bro looks don't matter. Women just want game especially the hot ones. Most people would say I am a 4 at best and since swallowing trp it's become ridiculously easy for me to game 9s and 8s. Honestly, really hot women get approached so rarely that they respect a guy who even speaks to them. All it takes to fuck a 9 is confidence. Just look at all the gross 80 year old dudes dating models. They don't worry about lifting and how they look

Pure physical appearance?

Back in the day, you could just upload a few photos to Hotornot.com and get some quick feedback.

Reddit has /r/Rateme and related subs but I don't know how good they are.

Tinder might be the best modern equivalent to Hotornot.com. Create a new Facebook account with just your photos, upload to Tinder, and then swipe every girl in your area and see what your response rate is.

Tattoos/piercings: I'm not a fan of them, and a lot of folks in TRP don't like them, but the truth is that many women are inexplicably drawn to them. I've seen my friends use "do you want to see my tattoos/nipple ring?" as a pickup line. They seem to be in vogue these days. That being said, there's no way I would permanently alter myself like that just to attract women.

Go to hotornot.com and post a pic. Random people will rate your appearance on a 1-10 scale. There are other sites that will 'rate my picture' search for them. Average the results. Learn. Improve.

Facial symmetry.

When I was younger, I would have said, "How attractive are the women who hit on you? Women tend to try and trade up, so those gals are typically on a lower level. That will give you a sense of things."

But looking back on things, that would mean that around 90% of guys would have no clue, because gals only hit on the top tier of men.

Like everything on Tinder. Get 500 matches. Do an average 1-10 of those. That is basically your number as well.

To answer the question- we are men, so to gauge your attractiveness, take whatever number you think you are (let's say 8) and drop it two points. We're egotistical and vain to some degree, and we usually find ourselves far more attractive than others find us.

Rigorous honesty is the key here.

I am medium. I would say I am a 5 based soley on appearance.

But also, I have a loud/big motorcycle, and I know how to ride it well. I have a beard that is not patchy and wimpy, and I am covered in tattoos.

I think that those things add, at most, two points- bringing me to a seven on my best day.

If I were to lose 20 pounds and dress better, I could stay on that seven all the time. The thing is, I don't really care enough to do it and I love eating too much food, so I do that instead of staying in better shape.

I am married and still get lots of sexin', and I get some interest from women (they get rejected quickly, though) so I suppose I should take that as an indication that I am at least slightly above average.

If you're attractive, you'll know. Leaving it at that.

Roissy has a good test for this:

Dating Market Value Test for Men

Good traits: Oval face, strong jawline, thick glossy hair, facial symmetry, tall, muscle definition, erect posture, even white teeth.

(Of course, your attitude and charisma make or break you. There are short bald guys with game and tall handsome betamaxes.)

This is something that you need other people's opinion on because a lot of men overate their attractiveness, but to do this you don't just go asking people how attractive they think you are because this displays you wanting validation which is not attractive.

How do women treat you? Unless you're naive and fail to see IOI's you can gauge how attractive you are by how women react to you and treat you.

• Do girls want to get to know you when they meet you? Do they show immediate interest before getting to know you? You can immediately qualify (and bed) yourself to a new girl just by looking good and acting fast.

• Do they escalate by flirting and/or touching? Girls almost never do this unless you're either attractive to them or their pet.

• Do you get daily looks from women and men in the street? Ugly people go unnoticed so if eyes fall on you time and again you can be sure it's because they like how you look.

• What can you get away with? The better looking you are the more cheeky and cocky you can be.

• How do men you meet treat you? They are likely to treat you better and want to befriend you if you look good because you have a higher likelihood of being a successful man (be it with women and/or life) and so they will want to get to know you. The fat or stick thin, ugly dudes get zero attention from girls but also zero attention from men.

Better question is what can you DO to be physically attractive.

Dress for your body type. If you don't have fashionable friends that can advise you, enlist the help of in-store sales people. Go to a higher end department store (Macy's is great for this) and ask for help in selecting properly fitting clothes. You don't have to buy shit from them, but it would be nice of you since they typically work off commission. Biggest tip here, don't be scared of (what may initially feel like) tight fitting clothes. A proper fit should show your shape. Trust this looks much better than billowy shirts and baggy pants.

Shiny shoes always win. Bitch may try to tease you for over dressing, but they fucking love it.

Get a proper hair cut, in a salon, by a stylist. Tell them your goals, not the hair cut you want. Let them work their magic.

Be clean. Wash yourself, brush your teeth and smell nice. Don't use cologne.

Finally, lose fat, gain muscle.

All this will bring confidence and CONFIDENCE IS KEY.

There's a video on youtube called I think "natural instinct manifesto" or something.

Really watch it and internalize it. It's really good.

the point is you're a man. women find masculinity energy attractive. Get in touch with your masculinity, enjoy your own basic energy as a man, get out of its way, do the shit that you want to do (like get strong and look good) because you naturally want to do that shit. Stop doing the anti-masculine shit that's unnatural anyway and which women are repulsed by. AND learn how to arouse women when you interact with them. That's really a powerful formula.

The the trick is knowing and trusting that masculinity just IS what women want. And that this is what you naturally are. It's then a matter of relating to your masculinity, and then getting comfortable using this energy to arouse women. This is what really matters.

My point is--yes, do the self improvement stuff. Build your body and your wardrobe. But i found that a shift in thinking from "attraction" to "arousal" was very effective for me.

You know what, just watch the video. personally, I think it's great and will actually help you get what you want. Cant recommend enough.

Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pStv5PyANyI

Height, facial symmetry. Sign up for HOT or NOT or OkCupid or whatever stupid shit kids do these days.

The above should get you an objective ballpark, but you should be focusing on improving - not measuring.

Here's my thoughts -

Don't fucking rate yourself. That's stupid. Just find a style that you feel comfortable and confident with. Take care of yourself. Eat right and carry yourself like a man.

Men don't give a shit what they are rated on a scale.

It's called a mirror

You can try the chateau test for smv for men online: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/dating-market-value-test-for-men/

Strong Chin, facial hair, hairline, facial symmetry, height, fat, muscularity.

Average all those together and determine if your hot. If you have all those, you're at least an 8.