I’ve been redpilled for the last 5 years. I recently came across a YouTube channel “Squirmy and grubs” which features a disabled guy called Shane and his normal girlfriend Hannah. They have started vlogging their life together as a couple.
Now this guy is helpless in just about every sense. He has severe muscular atrophy and needs her to do everything. From bathing, to wiping his ass and feeding him. He has a great sense of humour though.
She is is a HB7 at least. Undoubtedly with many many options if she had the inclination. It’s actually baffling to witness her laughing and loving on him as though he’s a Chad. This relationship does not makes sense through a redpill lense. They even talk about having children, knowing full well, the kids will likely inherit these bad genetics.
There is also no indication that he is filthy rich. He appears to be upper middle class at best. Why is this girl in her prime spending it as a carer? I don’t have an explanation outside of “Unicorns do exist”
Here’s a link to their channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdomP1JqhnyBQGaBmfDl4KQ
Here's one more link to something interesting, "Devotees" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attraction_to_disability Credit to I'm_Hitler for finding the correct term.
acrookedtree 5y ago
I’m sorry but I binge-watched a bunch of episodes & im not buying it. Their exchanges lack any kind of REAL honesty & love. They just don’t act like any kind of couple. I’m also ULTRA suspicious of the whole Spinal drug they’re plugging constantly. I feel like they’re a plant.
Thotasaurus_Rex 5y ago
I think she actually does love him. I believe she enjoys the life style, for the same reason women become nurses. I have heard of women needing to "look after" people to feel fulfilled. She has taken it to an extreme level which is almost like a fetish for her.
That being said I wouldn't blink if it came out that she is seeing multiple guys on the side.
Vikingcel 5y ago
She's getting good dick on the side
RPDream 5y ago
Attention!! Most women are attention whores, and this channel gives her lots of attention!
huey764 5y ago
Maybe 00.01% of women aren’t LT
boom_bostic 5y ago
Probably lower than that....but I think that’s the lesson here.
speed3_freak 5y ago
Exactly this. People are going to people and because of all the variables that come with individual behaviors in each person then you will most likely end up with a normal distribution. This chick is an extreme outlier. The reason you teach AWALT is because the chance of you meeting and attracting that .01% is highly unlikely. AWALT because you're dealing with the 99.99% 99.99% of the time. Guy won the lotto; that doesn't mean you need to start buying lotto tickets to plan for retirement.
redaftrp 5y ago
I’m curious why you are using “ inter-abled” as a descriptor for their relationship. If you are going to subscribe to feminist ideologies you should’ve also labeled them as inter-gender as well... stop buying into the pc-culture bullshit.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
I’m not buying into anything. Who says it’s exclusive feminist speak? The title is keeping a level of respect for these people, that’s it.
redaftrp 5y ago
Do you think that a disabled person wants to be treated differently just because of a disability? If not why label them as such. How retarded would it be if I introduced my gay friend be saying: “this is my friend Brian, he’s gay”....
Oblivionking1 5y ago
This is a sexual strategy reddit. I’m here to analyse the couple from an academic standpoint. Of course I’m going to mention one is disabled, that’s part of the exercise.
_Ulan_ 5y ago
TRP isn't some kind of universal rule that anyone will comply with. It's only here to describe our social instincts and the social dynamics behind it. There's many people going against these instincts, and they might still be happy until the end of their life.
That woman might fancy a strong manly man as a partner, or she might be too anxious to consider that option. You'll never know what's in her head.
embracingtheredpill 5y ago
Because there is a difference, for both men and women, for short- term sexual strategy and long-term sexual strategy, and you're forgetting how much women love to view themselves as eager servants to men, and how much they hate being viewed as selfish or non-family oriented by society.
Hsnbrg501 5y ago
She probably loves him from a maternal point of view and likely seeks out someone who is capable of placating her sexual desires on the side.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Yep, I can totally see that. They honestly don’t strike me as that kind of couple though. I mean, who would look after him if she’s out banging some other guy lol
Hsnbrg501 5y ago
Fair enough. I'm mostly speculating. He does have game and a good sense of humor about his situation. Quite an enjoyable presence.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Me too man, I got no clue. I really hope things workout good with them. It’s refreshing.
Cazken 5y ago
I dunno but I’m happy for them. They both seem in love and her body language and everything from the videos tells me that it’s not just a show. Good for them.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
This is the thing. Her body language across these videos seems genuine. Even when she’s annoyed or in a bad mood. The loves still there. I want to believe!!
Im_Hitler 5y ago
This is bizzare because i was literally searching 'devotee' because of this very situation.
These guys popped up on a youtube channel called special books by special kids where a guy named chris interviews disabled people (mainly kids) to spread a message of acceptance. Its truly amazing channel and worth watching to put things in perspective.
Anyway this couple have popped up as well as another returning guest at one point with his new girlfriend who contacted him via message after seeing him on the channel. It fascinated me and i was sure there had to be a fetish behind it.
As I said I was literally just searching devotee on reddit as i discovered the term earlier today. I thought i was reading my search results still until I realized i was on my own feed so this is such a crazy coincidence.
Anyway - my answer is fetish. In these cases where there is a committed relationship it must be a sexual attraction to the disabled because i see no other reason for these women to reach out via DM to meet these guys which is what happened in OPs example and the other I gave above.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Oh shit!!!!
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It's a real thing! It has a name!
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Everyone should lookup the word "Devotee" as Hitler has pointed out. It's actually the most detailed and convincing explanation yet!!! Your points are spot on!! She likely reached out over DM's out of her fetish attraction. I wonder how on earth such a fetish develops.
elektrik23 5y ago
She did indeed reach out via DM. I saw one of their videos where they explain how they met. Lady saw one of his videos on youtube and conctacted him. Crazy!
Im_Hitler 5y ago
Yes. I know my above post wasnt well articulated as im on mobile but on the Special Books by Special Kids channel there is another guy on there with his new gf who contacted him from New Zealand (guy is in the US) after his first interview. The guy in that example is also severely disabled and has a trach and cannot communicate well.
Just as a disclaimer i have 0 hate towards theae guy's and good for them for seizing their opportunity. I sure as hell would too. Im just pointing out what ive found.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Yes! I'm starting to understand how this can work.
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Of course, we wish all of them well!
double_red 5y ago
The chick is virtual-signaling for sure. If she really wanted to raise awareness for the disabled, I'm pretty sure there're plenty of other ways to do that instead of showing herself and her relationship with a disabled person in the videos. It's like showing your amputated dog and how good care you take of it.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Life isn't black and white, and red pill can't explain every single man and woman on earth.
To me, Rollo Tomassi was observing the common patterns he saw from people he witnessed, and the majority of men's posts on internet forums. The findings on red-pill are coherent with a 'majority case'. Of course there is no way to adequately predict 110% of the world's population.
In terms of choosing a successful sexual strategy though, are you going to base it on the vast majority, or small minorities.
I mean, if you want to go get in a wheelchair and wait for a cute carer, by all means it works for some. Me, I'm happy going to gym and living by Red Pill principles. I think that will create more plates.
Simpman4 5y ago
Max 7/10 not min haha
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Lol right on 7 !!
JacobM00re 5y ago
My 5 is your 7, bro.
Mescalean 5y ago
Eh personally id say 6-6.5
RedLegendx 5y ago
$$$ and the attention she gets by being in his videos.
Chad1738 5y ago
Exactly this. Just look at how OP is having a conversation (attention) about this chick who does nothing but is some youtubers gf
Cametotherightplace 5y ago
HB7? That's a 4 or 5
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Get outta here. She is above average for sure. Her body and face are above average.
Cametotherightplace 5y ago
Looks like a 5 to me. Maybe I under value
TopOccasion29 5y ago
I'd give her a 5 or 6 OP.
coolredpill 5y ago
either shes a unicorn, or has an insane fetish, or shes using a disabled person for profit
we'll never know
hazaraMoghul 5y ago
This men is limited from every aspect. This girl has a fetish to have a human pet. Do whatever she pleases to him.
failingtheturingtest 5y ago
Men love women.
Women love children.
Children love dogs.
This sheila has found a man that she can take care of like a child. Everyone treats her like she's a Saint, she gets to publicly be Mother Teresa and privately be... Well, Mother Teresa.
Some sheilas will get their attention from flirting with guys at the bar, some from posting pictures on instagram, some from cutting their hair to look like Lloyd from dumb and dumber and sticking it to the patriarchy! Either way, it's all for that sweet, sweet feel-good sensation of "doing something".
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Yes maybe he’s tapped into her nurture side enough to sustain a relationship. Insane.
CheesyStravinsky 5y ago
Imagine if we could all be that lucky, huh?
failingtheturingtest 5y ago
Just remember. She can love you like a child, or want you to fuck her like a man. Not both.
BookyMcBooks 5y ago
I mean... she could easily have some Chad boyfriend on the side...
It's entirely possible.
ImmortalAl 5y ago
Probable
900_year_old_vampire 5y ago
some kind of intense multifaceted fetish is honestly my only guess. or, its literally just all fake and a mutual youtube cash grab
Nib-q 5y ago
It’s for attention. Probably has @gaylubeoil on the side.
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
She probably has some sort of "Munchausen's by proxy" thing going on. Who knows? No matter what it is, it is always someone's fetish.
Also, over populations there are always going to be exceptions. For example, nobody would argue that men are, generally, taller than women, but that does not mean that there are not some women who are taller than some men. Think WNBA chicks. But just like it's very uncommon for a girl to be 6'8", it's also uncommon for them to get wet in the panties for gorked guys.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Love your contributions to the site!!
Yes you could very well be right. It’s a very interesting and fascinating case and maybe in time will make more sense.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Isn’t it just baffling? It’s the most convincing evidence for unicorns I’ve seen. If it is indeed a fetish, I’ve never heard of it.
icecruzader 5y ago
AWALT as a given, there is a role for nurture in this. The amount of OK Ness she has for disability is superceding her most base biological need for 'security'. She basically has a baby already, she gets to have a man helpless towards her and he must have some game. The social benefits of being a Saint are similar to not trying to seem like a slut turned up to 11. Really though, there are so many people Im not surprised by shit like this at all. Someone's cut a chicks legs and keep her fed via IV too, but we don't talk about why She is with him either.
Nergaal 5y ago
Nah. There was a morbidly obese youtuber who got a gastric bypass and the moment he stopped looking 100% gross and was like 99% gross she dumped him. It's a twisted Cleopatra complex, where the woman has a need to have an individual completely dependent to her to have any meaningful impression of self.
MisterMarbles1988 5y ago
I was thinking some kind of co-dependent relationship as well. She loves how needed he makes her feel. Without a fucked up person to take care of, she has to live with herself and all of her (perceived or real) flaws.
hmsthinkingmeat 5y ago
If you ever watch "my 600lb life" you'll see it in reverse - the dude will be what they call a "feeder" who needs his other half to be totally 100% dependent on him, to cover his deep and intense lack of self esteem or sense of self value.
The minute the woman loses weight and he thinks she might find someone better, the relationship collapses.
Really it's a form of co-dependent abuse.
itsBoundless 5y ago
Boogie?
Nergaal 5y ago
Y
redpill-student 5y ago
I knew a guy that was mentally handicapped that could slay some pussy. Never anything above a 4 really but the fact that he was scoring was still wild to me.
Now I’ve been friends with this guy for quite a few years now. While I never specifically knew what he had, we’ve talked together about his mental disability and how it affects him and things like that.
I’ll tell you one thing that his mental impairment did not mess with. His balls. Dude was on the prowl constantly since middle school. People gassed him up so much and his confidence shot up so much that he would ask out one of the hottest girls in our grade a couple times a month. She never said yes but he didn’t give a flying fuck. Dude had balls of steel. Fast forward a couple years out of middle school and this guy picks up Tinder and he’s swiping on everything to get his dick wet.
Before I know it, I’m starting to hear from him about his successes and he starts showing me “proof.” Dude was laying pipe even though his IQ couldn’t have been above 65.
TopOccasion29 5y ago
My flatmate at college is like that too. He's absolutely disgusting, can't look after himself. He's a pathetic manchild but still scores cheerleaders, aspiring models etc. His parents aren't wealthy per se. He doesn't have a job and these hb's buy gifts for him and he fucks them silly. BUT he despite being a nice guy he does have a very dominant personality so i guess that's what helps him.
alpha-zach 5y ago
Just because men are happiest only having the frame, doesn’t mean they always have it. They get duped into believing blue pill lies and think they are happy.
Think of this woman as the female version of a blue pill man. She might think she’s happy, but it’s just a delusion. Ego investments and how she was raised, likely have a lot to do with it.
throwitdownman 5y ago
She has an dominant personality. She wants to be in charge, and practically wants a ‘bitch’ to play around with. Think ‘dom’ in BDSM. I’ve seen many girls, and she also looks insecure - she looks like she’s walking on eggshells. I would not be surprised if she was alpha widowed.
Now, why him? He provides things many men don’t. He seems like a nice guy, someone she can walk over. Also, he’s completely reliant on her - zero chance she gets her heart broken. Disability checks are also good. And finally, and most importantly, it gives her validation. She has the whole internet singer her praises.
At this point with 200k subscribers, she’s made it her ‘job’ while also fetching validation. All this ‘benefit’ (ownership of person, ownership of channel, ownership of his money streams, endless validation, role model status) in exchange for not riding the CC.
Edit: just saw her Instagram. Vacations, collaborations with celebrities, an IG girl’s dream. She’s not in it for love, she’s in it for the benefits. He’s just a means to an end.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Wow, just went on their Instagram too. It’s almost surreal to see. Like a bizarro world or something. You could be right about all your points. Totally plausible.
JorgitoEstrella 5y ago
He looks like woody from toy story.
boom_bostic 5y ago
Mind blowing stuff here. There must be more back story here that we’re all missing.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Lmao that’s what I thought!!
PimPedOutGeeese 5y ago
My best guess? He's a Youtuber. She's riding the coattails of him being a YouTuber.
Being a YouTuber gives her social status... And then there's whatever little, or not so little, money that is made from the channel.
I still don't have any doubt that she seeks Chad at midnight.
Or shit we don't know what happens behind closed doors. He could be telling her go be a fucking whore.
TLDR: Who cares? Do you. RP theory is pretty sound.
tchower 5y ago
She could be riding Chad at midnight next door for all we know. Lol
Oblivionking1 5y ago
You could be right about her seeking chad elsewhere. Would explain a lot. Just looking at the pieces as they are doesn’t add up.
StopGaming1234 5y ago
This is their channel, they started together with 0 subs. It's not like he was famous before.
Life isn't black and white. Who knows what reasons she has. There will always be outliers.
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I would only be concerned if this couple was the norm.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Oh no kidding. I wasn’t aware they started with no subs. A fascinating case to be sure.
superbad4life 5y ago
But then they now have over 230k subs? like wth
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Lol 230k curious people.
menial_optimist 5y ago
Best case: He has psychologically conquered his own disabilities and has achieved as many redpill aspects as he can. That coupled with the right woman, he has gamed her. No woman just agrees to wipe a grown mans ass for nothing.
Worst case: All fake.
Another example is a 2.5ft tall dude named Sean Stephenson, he is an example of someone who has conquered himself and thus is able to achieve a higher mindset and not give a fuck. He has a 7/10 wife as well.
Your post seems to be one of jealousy imo. You're like "Why can this cripple get girls but I can't when I've been redpilled for 5 years?". Granted I do not know you and you could be slaying 9's every day, but if you've been redpilled for 5 years truly I feel like you'd already know the answer to this question and would have never had to ask it or care in any case.
bestCallEver 5y ago
Sean Stephenson is the fucking man. I can't ever watch one of his videos without feeling better about life after.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Of course I’m jelly of this guy, it’s quite the feat where I’m standing. I still hope it works out for them though, it’s a great case study lol
throwitpplaway 5y ago
Shocking the TRP muscles.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Haha shocked the shit outta mine
AWorseManThanYou 5y ago
Why would you think this guy wasn’t beta bux? Just cause a woman is there doesn’t make him alpha.
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Didn’t strike me as a good beta bux. I mean she’s practically working for whatever she gets. Much easier finding some normal wealthy beta who doesn’t require 24/7 care.
xx-Rain_Maker-xx 5y ago
There will always be outliers. Not all people can be reduced to a simple linear model.
HumbleTrees 5y ago
This is the best answer here. There will always be deviations from the norm; the far ends of the bell curve, so to speak. The existence of abnormalities doesn't disprove a theory, if ,as is the case, the majority conforms to the theory.
thewobblywelder 5y ago
Same reason some men stay with disabled women. Maybe he didn’t start out that way, same as a woman getting cancer at 25 and men sticking with them til the bitter end. Women are a major pain in the ass. But every once in awhile one will shine through. She might just be willing to give this guy the best life he’ll live until he dies. Then she’ll most likely move on to some guy(s) she’s had strung along for years. Maybe there’s gain in it financially somewhere for her. Maybe she has a warped motherly instinct that’s controlling her emotional responses right now. Maybe she was beaten and raped as a child and decided this guy wasn’t capable of that so why not? Most likely has plenty of Chads taking care of her other needs.
It’s really hard to say. And frankly, really not my concern. All I know is being disabled like that, I’d let a 7 take care of me whether I was banging her or not. Better than a slobbering old roundy eh?
Pletskop 5y ago
The exception proves the rule.
FiveStarTendieDinner 5y ago
He's got positivity and game that red pillers will never have. Plus disability checks pay more than whatever useless degree she's got. So it's a win win.
Emerald__Faith 5y ago
Let's be honest bro shes a Hb 3 at best and hes got disability checks
Provider hypergamy in play, simple.
TheRedPike 5y ago
What is a "red pillers?" They hold the roop up?
Oblivionking1 5y ago
I believe he does have a positivity and game that most will never have. Is that the key here? She could easily do so much better and have someone wealthier too.
FiveStarTendieDinner 5y ago
That is the fucking key. It's right there in front of you. Anyone who can't see that is a total fucking dipshit.
Auphor_Phaksache 5y ago
Most people on TRP dont have a perspective of positivity but think they do based on the same source as their idea of love.
FiveStarTendieDinner 5y ago
And their ideas are invalid and not based in reality like they claim they are. So fuck them and their ideals.
Auphor_Phaksache 5y ago
Thats not necessarily true either. There is a large amount of useful information here.
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UrIRLFriendLowkey 5y ago
ThAt Is FaKe AnD StAgEd AnD ShE StIlL LoOkInG FoR A ChAd JuSt NoT FoUnD OnE YeT! AWALT DuMmY Go ReAd ThE SiDeBaR /s
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Haha I suppose it could be fake and staged. Pretty elaborate and exhausting though I reckon.
i_love_chicks 5y ago
what a sick twisted bitch. she’s stringing this poor dude along.
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Nergaal 5y ago
Where do you guys live if you think a girl like this is below average?
th33unsaltednutt 5y ago
Thats why i always remember to deduct -2 from any hb(0-10) Very skeptical about the taste of some guys
the13thmonk 5y ago
I was thinking same
[deleted] 5y ago
Lol she’s no more than a 4 on r truerateme this bitch looks borderline average idk what tfk op was thinking when he said hb7 he’s probably been fapping to midgets his entire life.
HurricaneHugues 5y ago
What will you gain from figuring it out?
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Potentially new knowledge that can be learned. Let’s say that this proves positivity game trumps all for example, being normal and applying it would be incredibly effective.
HurricaneHugues 5y ago
You should send your resume to my team of Bulgarian researchers
Oblivionking1 5y ago
If the price is right!!
alchamest 5y ago
withing all populations and data there are outliers,
this is an extreme case, and in my opinion it is just noise, there is nothing meaningful to deduct from this.
They may be happy together, it may just be a very unique case. they do exist. they are the exception and not the norm. any meaning you take from here will not be applicable to a healthy able bodied persons life.
Heart warming and nice. I hope she does plenty of lap dances for my boi squirmy or grub, which ever he is!
imtheoneimmortal 5y ago
I’m the exception, I have disability and why not to gain and learn something from this?
alchamest 5y ago
The beauty of this world is that these people are contactable, there is a chance if you reach out to that dude on his channel you may be able probe his mind and learn about his life/circumstances and benefit directly from his awesomeness.
Best of luck to you dude!
Oblivionking1 5y ago
Good on you man! Whatever positive take aways you can get, have at em!
imtheoneimmortal 5y ago
For what I learned, having humour is a good start
I’m lifting and having good diet (healthy) and seem working