There has been a report circulating in our university to take precautionary measures against many men (students & non-students) that have been cold approaching women on campus. The basic structure goes as following:
1- They initiate with a compliment on her looks.
2- They follow up with small talk (major, nationality) and ask her for her plans for the upcoming hours.
3- They attempt to isolate.
4- They sometimes follow her.
Now the news has gained a lot of traction and many students (mostly women, few men) have brought up their concerns about this. Female students have stepped up to talk about their own personal experience of similar events.
Example: "This happened to me last week! He complimented me then asked for my name and number. Fkn creepy" As we can see, cold approach has increasingly been labeled as "creepy", at least on my campus.
My thoughts are, if we disregard #4, this is basically a campus-wide shit-test. If the approachers had more social proof, then this would not have been a problem at all. Following them seems to be the biggest turn-off but I'm happy for them that they are facing their fears and are attempting to gain more confidence through this process.
Thoughts?
EDIT: A male student grew some balls and decided to make a post offering the male perspective. He evidently got shit on pretty brutally, as much as by female students than as white knights who went and called him "fkn idiot", "there is no other perspective", etc. You get the point.
Let this be a reminder that women often don't know what they want, overly rely on their feelings, and as a result are incapable of reasoning. Feminism is a society-wide shit-test, and by equipping yourself with the right tools, the right demeanor and the right mindset, we're bound to override it. Stay red.
ethbytes 5y ago
The "creep" level will depend on the guys/girls looks... If hot, not a creep, if not Chad big balls then a creep...
Internet-Troll 5y ago
If me then rapist
ethbytes 5y ago
Join the club mate, it not exclusive. :)
damaged_goods420 5y ago
Oof
Startlivingfornow 5y ago
Yeah, let’s practice a new skill with a high % fail rate on girls at the University I attend. Some of you guys are so autistic I wonder how the fuck you make it to school each day.
Learn cold approach somewhere else. When you’re not a fuckwit, approach girls on campus.
Guess what’s going to happen . . .
You’re not going to get into any shit because you’ll have game and won’t direct approach like some pony riding fuck that read about approsch anxiety for 2 minutes.
Fuck me. Lol
Thunderfin 5y ago
So what is your question? Your post should be removed and you should be banned.
RedKnightTime 5y ago
"Who gives a shit?"
Keep on keeping on.
TheChaser78 5y ago
Yeah that’s all good and well until someone rats on you to the academics and then they screw with your grades.
RedKnightTime 5y ago
That's not really a thing, but I bet your tinfoil hat looks cool.
TheChaser78 5y ago
That’s complete BS dude. I’m at university right now and I make sure I give the academics no reason to screw with my marks. I’ve heard many times of this happening in the US. Are you in a university or college?
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PlaySenseMe 5y ago
Girls calling a guy from their college approaching them creepy is the utmost shit... Are those woman stupid? He is not someone passing through the road, he is studying the same shit as you do in the same college, can't you see that? Yeah, he might be a freak, and may hurt you but the odds are really really slim... Woman are stupid and even in this century we have computers, electric cars etc... people are still narrow minded!
Rkingpin 5y ago
College campus is built for social circle game
If you live on campus you got to be careful not to fuck up your main/only source of pussy around you.
If you cold approach be indirect and subtle about it. Remember theres a high chance you'll run into her again
grabthecactus 5y ago
This is exactly why people need to be doing indirect approach on college campuses, in college rep still matters and go shotgun approach if you want to fuck it all up for yourself.
You need that plausible deniability shield more than ever now.
Internet-Troll 5y ago
Plausible deniability and get moral high ground, when get called out, argue with emotional appeal and play sympathy card.
Reason for shotgun "I just want to feel loved ????"
Reason for being a slut "I just want to feel loved ????"
Reason for everything "I just want to feel loved ????"
OfficerWade 5y ago
Plausible deniability is “we both attend the same college, one in a millions odds” I think the problem some men are having is not closing, they aren’t actually trying to get to know the person before they sleep together.
i_forget_my_userids 5y ago
Rep does not mean hardly anything most University campuses. If you run through ~5000 girls in all 4 years, you're a god.
grabthecactus 5y ago
It does though, for smaller ones even more so.
If you go out shotgun approaching for daygame on campus too frequently people will remember you, in this day and age even more so as it's an incredibly uncommon thing to do.
In uni, social circle game is most effective if implemented correctly, coupled with nightgame. You're literally surrounded with people in your age range there's so much potential to build a huge network.
Velebit 5y ago
Social circle game is veteran level difficulty. I would rather aproach and get rejected by 10 women then waste time talking to mediocre men about sports, games and their hobbies before I can hope someone decides I am friendly and wholesome enough to be invited to a shitty socializing where my I have to wait for hours and hours my opportunity to talk to a girl and get nervous if she rejects me due to all the work I put in getting into the group.
Fuck that. Rather use my sleazeball superpower of being used to being seen as a villain and enjoying it.
ethbytes 5y ago
TRP veteran...? Make me proud. :)
Benson8799 5y ago
Lmao
FlexForJesus 5y ago
Istinu zboriš Velebite
anon_nonapplicable 5y ago
This isn’t ever a problem for my uni. Granted I only talk when I see a girl I like, I flirt and number close but I am nowhere near good looking. I just keep my frame and talk softly
I'm in the UK by the way. Every girl I've approached has a smile on her face when I talk, and I wouldn't say I have the best body or face, and I reach an average 5'10
PolesWithGoals 5y ago
Yeah, unless we're solid 10s, we can't approach girls without them thinking we're creepy. This is one of the main reasons why I don't even bother talking to girls at my university. Don't really want this drama, just want my degree, sorry my genetics didn't spec me to your liking
SalporinRP 5y ago
Lol nice rationalizing for you being too pussy to talk to girls. Shifting the goalposts from not approaching girls in public to not talking to them at all.
PolesWithGoals 5y ago
Alright bitch boy, you should randomly approach a girl at a college bar and lemme know how it goes. Willing to bet that she’ll view you as a creep
iLLprincipLeS 5y ago
Now you're really looking for excuses lol. If they view you as a creep when you approach at a fucking bar you're doing it wrong. Or maybe you can't handle rejection?
PolesWithGoals 5y ago
I’m not a pussy, I can handle rejection (like all guys, been doing it for years). I’m not “really looking for excuses” when my statements are legitimate concerns, particularly in college towns
SalporinRP 5y ago
I did approach girls at bars when I was in college you idiot. And I got my fair share of lays and my fair share of rejections.
Approaching in bars is socially accepted. Approaching on campus during the day is not. That's the difference.
Learn game and approach and work on your social skills NOW instead of wasting 4 years of college being a passive little bitch too scared to take a risk.
SolarTortality 5y ago
“Approach a random girl at a college bar and I bet she’ll think you are a creep”
Lmao not if you have social proof and aren’t acting like a creep. That guy has a lot of self improvement to do.
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
So many people in this sub don't get this. Unless you are, in fact, Chad Thundercock, cold approaching in non-social settings where it's not expected is a recipe for disaster. Just up your SMV enough so that you're getting IOIs first.
paperclip_of_doom 5y ago
Don't know how old you are or when you went to college, but can confirm that these days because of the #metoo movement and other shit like that, cold approaching girls on campus gets you labeled as a creep super fast and ruins your reputation.
SalporinRP 5y ago
Yeah if you're approaching people around the quad as they're trying to rush to class sure.
If you approach people at the college bars you will be fine.
Using the metoo movement as an excuse to not approach is just rationalizing being a pussy.
SolarTortality 5y ago
Lol you can approach girls at the bar I do it all the time. Just go with friends, have social proof, and don’t act like a beta.
RedKnightTime 5y ago
And this is failing the shit test (and consequently falling out of the gene pool).
PolesWithGoals 5y ago
I'd rather just play it safe than risk catching a "harassment" charge because I ask some girl what her name is
redhawkes 2 5y ago
Faint heart never fucked a fair lady. Only autistic betas catch "harassment", whatever that shit means.
PolesWithGoals 5y ago
Quite common in modern society
redhawkes 2 5y ago
Not where I live. Up your SMV, then report back.
PolesWithGoals 5y ago
Yes sir
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
HHhhhmmmm...it's hard to know the deal behind this, without knowing details. Like, is it mainly socially awkward incels doing this? Surely if motherfuckers are FOLLOWING THEM AFTER THE APPROACH, these can't be the smartest guys. How do we know it's not the same guys/group doing it all?
I don't know if this is conclusive evidence that cold approach is creepy, or is just creepy dudes trying cold approach?
It really isn't THAT hard to strike up a convo and not come off as a fucking creep.
bigboxguy 5y ago
Multiple girls I've approached on campus throughout the years have told me that guys have followed them to their classes after approaching them. All the guys were ugly betas.
organicfluxx 5y ago
Was this in the last decade?
bigboxguy 5y ago
I’m in college right now
PopePalpatineTheWise 5y ago
That's his fault. You should never engage women with logic, you just agree with what they say and do what you're going to do anyway. Approach them well and they wouldn't bat an eye. Also approach only the pretty ones as they don't really give a shit about this "Creep Phenomenon" if you are attractive, they actually relish it.
It's the fat and ugly ones who are really invested in this, trust me.
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party_dragon 5y ago
Always open indirect. There's absolutely no excuse to open direct, unless you're so famous (e.g. Brad Pitt) that you're 99.999% sure she's gonna fuck you immediately.
Open indirect, joke, comment on the environment, tell a story, ask a question, whatever some excuse. Then calibrate depending on her response - you can either go more direct ("Did you see my chihuahua, it's wearing a pink ... Oh, you're actually really pretty, what's your name?") or keep DHVing indirectly until she's hooked.
For more info, check out this RSD video - Tyler demonstrates a number of techniques to open girls, explains his "hard stop / slow play" method (basically, when you open, walk with her, say "sorry" to demonstrate social awareness, ... while DHVing (demonstrating how awesome you are) until she's hooked), and what "creepy" actually means (asking for social compliance (handshake, "what's your name", high-five) prematurely and not getting it).
boredathome19 5y ago
I really don't know if America is just a shitshow of a country where you have to fear being kicked out of university for literally talking to women or if some incels in here just try to rationalize why they don't talk to the evil women.
Probably the latter.
Psycholephant 5y ago
Possibly a bit of both. But the first one is a real concern. All it takes is for one woman to be approached on a bad day and she can have your balls served to you on a platter.
iwviw 5y ago
Check out the thread in the news subreddit. Men under 29 are at an all time low of having sex in this country. Whole generation of 80-90% incels. It’s slowly turning to Japan over here
IWantAllYourMoney 5y ago
Ten years ago I heard that 90+% of people lose their virginity at 17 or something (both genders). I'm amazed by how the world changes so fast...
iwviw 5y ago
It’s a whole generation failing a huge shit-test
organicfluxx 5y ago
Can't seem to find it, please help?
iwviw 5y ago
I linked it and it got auto removed
iwviw 5y ago
“The share of Americans not having sex is at an all time high” is he title
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iLLprincipLeS 5y ago
Do you really think #4 is happening? Sound like something ugly females that are not approached would make up to give cold-approaching a bad name.
DiSysmic 5y ago
Positive. Some female students who reported were actually on the higher end of the HB scale.
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
You can make the argument that cold approaching on campus is creepy, but actually following girls to class is downright psychotic.
TheBellThatSmells 5y ago
This video occurred in my university. Assuming your not creepy, you’ll be fine, you get creepy when your overtly aggressive.
DiSysmic 5y ago
We may be talking about the same incident.
SICFJC 5y ago
You’re
SpinPlates 5y ago
This is what happens when PUAs lie to ugly men and tell them looks don't matter and to approach beautiful women...Especially if the ugly men are also awkward and terrible at pick up.
Regardless of what PUAs tell you, women look at ugly men and are disgusted. And in the mind of a women it's incredibly taboo to boldly cross into a different league and try to speak to a high value women.
This been reported in pick up hot spots like Time Square and big malls around the US and Canada.
And OP, it's not about social status. It's about looks.
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damaged_goods420 5y ago
Not only that, most women look at average dudes and are disgusted unfortunately. We gotta be Chad thundercock out here
SpinPlates 5y ago
You got it.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Yes, but, if the ugly dorks keep it up, they WILL develop game, and it can lead to victory for them.
SpinPlates 5y ago
This is a false hope that PUAs tell ugly men.
The fact is, game has a barrier of entry with looks. You don't have to be Brad Pitt. But you can't be Danny Devito either.
The way I describe this is a 7/10 with good game can steal a girl from a 9/10 with bad game at a bar. However a 4/10 will NEVER pull a women from a 9/10 no matter how good his game is unless he is wealthy.
The 5'5 indian kid is never going to cold approach a 6'0 Swedish super model and fuck her in 24 hours. It will never happen. PUAs use infield footage of an ugly short guy getting a hot girls number and claim he actually succeeded at something. They do not show the 1000 other attempts or the fact the girl on the infield footage ghosted him.
The only hope for ugly/short men is to gymmaxx their asses off. If you're jacked and ripped it increases your chances exponentially
redhawkes 2 5y ago
It's simple.
Be attractive.(Lift, groom, zfg, game)
Don't be unattractive.(needy, overinvested, beta)
Wolveryn 5y ago
Dudes nots following rules 1 and 2
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Do NOT open with a compliment. Do not follow.
This will annihilate 50% of the argument, and throw their hamsters off the scent.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
You could counter by circulating a report that some group of butch lesbian rapists are trying to stop women from dating men, and they are sending around a false report using standard dating/mating behaviors from the last 10,000 years and trying to make it into something dangerous.
truthbomb999 5y ago
Dudes shouldn't really be talking to women they attend the same school with anyway
chocolatex 5y ago
what
truthbomb999 5y ago
If you date women at your University, you open yourself up to complaints, title ix type stuff, and so forth. If you date girls from other colleges that isn't an issue. I had "the talk" about not dating women at the school I attended because guys regularly get in trouble from a bad approach and stuff like that.
Thisismybot8 5y ago
Apps or nothing