I`ve been following the red pill for about 16 months now. Made progress in this time faster than I have in my entire life! Started lifting, getting laid, garnering respect from my peers, it was amazing and still is today. However, my deep blue-pill years won`t magically disappear, I have to deal with it and at times I can feel myself back tracking. Like a mega cognitive dissonance migraine.
So how have you guys who have "killed the beta" done it?
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
Given a particular scenario, ask yourself "Should I give the alpha response or beta response?" Leads to efficient outcomes almost constantly.
VigilantSmartbomb 5y ago
Never thought I’d see a top rated comment about balancing the red pill lmao
EvolvedVirus 5y ago
It's a tough balance, especially in the work place where you gotta be careful. If you ask women though, randomly sometimes they'll say "you're sooo mean" and sometimes "you're way too nice..."
Nailing this balance is really just jumping-the-gap, you really have to always thread the needle. Err towards alpha when you can, just try not to look like a dick or mean-spirited. In other words, don't be evil or dishonorable, just be virtuously assertive, tough, and aggressive.
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
Yeah that's pretty much my operating principle.
EvolvedVirus 5y ago
Basically, when you're simultaneously being accused of being too nice and being an asshole, you are doing it sorta right (and are close enough).
Project_Zero_Betas 5y ago
It's a matter of knowing which scenarios require the proper response. LTR likes to think they're hot shit? Alpha response. LTR testing you to see if you value her more than a previous girl? Beta response.
masterpiece00 5y ago
No not really, women especially in the workplace will change like a coin flip and spread gossip poison at will.
nicyhasreddit 5y ago
It's part of their nature. Remember they are incapable of respecting or loving a man who cannot benefit them. Men at work by nature cannot benefit women.
asorals 5y ago
I've just began implementing RP in my life. Went out for one of the first times this weekend and I found myself taking time to respond to certain things when I'd be tested. You really don't realise how much certain people test your frame until you've been educated.
Intentional69 5y ago
Discipline
hrm0894 5y ago
You have to keep reading posts, consistently. Redpilled subs serve as a reminder, and without a reminder you will forget.
send_it_for_the_boys 5y ago
This is very true. TRP got quarantined when I had made the terrible decision of getting into an LTR awhile back, needless to say I forgot so much and went downhill.
boy_named_su 5y ago
I don't think you can every entirely kill your inner beta, but you can bury it real deep down inside
I discovered game about 12 years ago. Roissy about 9 years ago. TRP about a year ago
I'm at the top of my field, have an MBA, triple-digit body count, in good shape. Not bragging, just saying despite that, I still have beta tendencies
My inner beta still comes out on drugs (lots of them, which is why I don't do drugs, much)
IssaBigLife 5y ago
Damn. Have any tips for a young adult?
boy_named_su 5y ago
read lotsa books. especially Rollo and Roosh. get good at Day Game
the longer you have to practice, the better off you'll be
EvolvedVirus 5y ago
Focus on success in life, education, and career as a young adult. You can't game girls without some of that as your foundation.
Be confident and as long as you follow the rule of congruence between your words, beliefs, virtuous principles, and actions, you will just seem alpha.
masterpiece00 5y ago
Yeah, don't believe what people say on the internet.
BookyMcBooks 5y ago
Triple digit body count? You've fucked 100+ ladies?
boy_named_su 5y ago
I have. I'm older though...43
resnine 5y ago
Chad... teach us your ways.
masterpiece00 5y ago
Choose quantity over quality, not hard to lay 100 5/10's.
resnine 5y ago
Ok..says you. I'm not gonna brag I don't find it easy to get lays in which is why I asked. What exactly are you doing to get in these lays?
SubstantialBeanBoi 5y ago
The "broad-spectrum" redpill that eradicated any blue pill conditioning for me was
magx01 5y ago
That's every girl on earth at this point. Just one big roleplay.
furcryingoutloud 5y ago
You never kill the beta. You balance it against the alpha. Alpha and beta traits are like night and day. You cannot just have one. Good and evil. Men are not androids.
There are instances when a little bit of beta is very useful. Don't underestimate the power of balance. It's knowing when to use each that makes you a badass.
DexiAntoniu 5y ago
Don't think, do.
MafiaCode 5y ago
It goes away completely once the fire of pain burns your conditioning to ashes. Until then you will be daydreaming
Andorli 5y ago
Oh wow bro...almost cut me with that edge.
Acerhand 5y ago
I dont struggle with BP conditioning much. I’ve always been naturally a bit RP, RP simply gave me the words and tangible concepts and understanding.
What i think is a bigger struggle for many guys and certainly even myself at times is not reverting to BO beliefs, but falling into Beta behaviours. Nobody is AF all the time. Its a prototype. Sometimes Abundance mentality can be difficult to act upon even if you know its true.
INNASKILLZ2K18 5y ago
Just remember thoughts are just that - thoughts. And feelings aren't FACTS.
Blue pill thoughts and feelings will come up. I just remember that I haven't acted on them. Take a pause, and remember a red pill response.
dr_warlock 5y ago
By being ambitious, constantly reaching beyond your station. This path though a net positive, leads to inevitable failure... lots of it because youre exploring foreign soil. But that failure, that embarassment, that sting of ego will knock sense in you.
Success will eventually give you an excuse to be lazy and idealisti, reverting back to easy, weak, beta behavior. Sucess with your first hot women will likely give you oneitis. And you will learn.
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No way around it.
meikyo_shisui 5y ago
Are there any particular BP ideas or tendencies that you have a problem with? As there will be specific RP counter-points to think about.