To preface this,been fully redpilled for about a year and focused on my mission. Pretty high standards all my gfs have been 7+ even when i hadn't been RP. Am a model tons of social proof on IG.
Been seeing this girl for 3 months . Don't have time to game other girls but I have options lined up if things go sour. Am in abundance and fully believe AWALT, ready to walk.
We're in a exclusive fwb situation.
Pros:
+Super chill, we had zero fights and i can't even remember any arguments.
+Hooked up after a month partly because i couldn't work out logistics, pretty sure she would have been dtf whenever.
+N count <4 (No i didn't ask, I know her best guy friend)
+Almost no social media presence,has an instagram but the last post is over a year old(Huuuuuge plus for me and one of the reasons I'd like to ltr her along with the n count).
I know two of her ex's - both ugly AS FUCK (like 5 and 6 and I'm being generous) and seem to be beta losers from what I've seen, one cried when she broke up with him. She also seems super insecure.
+No drama, literally none.
+Super submissive
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Always dtf.I couldn't work out a place to have sex for like 10 days and she literally told me, don't call me unless we're having sex next time.
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She actually traveled, on a hot day, in a packed bus, 2 hours out of the city with me just to have sex (Watch her actions not her words?)
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Never hides her phone from me,doesn't have a password on it (I never push for her to show me though)
- I always call her the same day I want to hang out and she frees up time to see me.
Cons:
- She gives her number out to literally everyone who asks her (guess she needs that attention - AWALT). But doesn't lie to me about it.Blocks them later
- A lot of guy friends. We were discussing something about psychology and I teasingly asked what do you think the psychology of a girl with a lot of guy friends is? (Shit eating grin included) She said its pretty obvious if you think about it and hinted something about using them for favors n shit.
-Shows me the betas who message her and shows me the messages to shit test me , one 35 year old fat slob she gave out a number to HAD A SON WITH HIM when she gave him her number .
I played it cool:
Her: He won't stop messaging me,he keeps telling me he has a son
Me: Maybe he wants you to know his boys can swim,that's a huge plus if you ask me .
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Doesn't respect my time as much as I'd like. Is more often than not 10-20 mins late
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She will talk about some shit in her life and I'd ask her about it and she'd say I can't tell you because i don't want to lie to you ( I never push it after that )
- Actually arranged to meet with a guy who messaged her on instagram and told me ( How fucking sad is it that even a girl with <200 followers and a locked IG has people constantly hitting her up smh) . Shows me how he went full beta and obsessive when she canceled.
Her : Look at this idiot,he won't stop messaging me , I'm gonna block him.
Me : Don't be mean.
Her : Yeah we were supposed to hang out on sunday but i couldn't and now he wont stop messaging me.
I was calm with zero emotion from this point on.
Me : You scheduled to meet with someone who messaged you on instagram?
I could tell she was thinking of what to say and she kinda panicked, I THINK she might not have thought it was a big deal actually , she does not seem that bright , but i could be wrong.
Her : I mean, it's really unusually for me i never do it.
I remained stoic while she scratched my arm and didn't say a word(we were sitting in a bus). Went back to playful banter after 3-4 mins.
This is a huge flag for me and i won't be upgrading her in the near future. I guess a plus is that she always shows me who messages her and I always pass the shit tests ( thanks rp).
I will reiterate , I have no problems breaking up with her but the sex is easy and i guess I'd like to make her fall hard for me just to see what it's like (Yes It's narcissistic but I'd like to experience it).
Here are my questions :
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Should I do like a fake breakup to stir things up in the relationship , stir some emotions in her, I was thinking of telling her that i don't know if we can see each other anymore after sex and that i'll call her tomorrow and then wait a week or some shit ( Bitches love drama
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I can't straight up tell her that it bothers me that she arranged to meet with a guy from ig and that she shouldn't be late without losing frame can i?
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Often times she says how I shouldn't lie to her if I want to break up with her, just to keep it straight . Says please don't be pathetic when you do it, i wouldn't be able to look at you the same way. I don't know how to take this,insecurity?
- I think she is hesitant to tell me how she feels because she is afraid of me ending it . I'd tell her what I think about something of her and she says like I care - but whenever she says it it sounds suuuuper fake and trying to seem in abundance.
I have been full blown alpha and making fun of her(A&A) for stupid girly shit (wanting to hold hands). Telling her i don't like texting and shit(maybe that's why shes hesitant to text) So i guess she is afraid of showing emotions.Should I sprinkle in some BP if i wanted to LTR her?
pridebrah 5y ago
Don't ever upgrade a 19 year old man
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IcreateMoney 5y ago
This ^
TitsAndWhiskey 5y ago
Thank you. I know a girl exactly like this and she literally fucks every dude she meets. It is completely meaningless to her.
OP about to learn a valuable lesson here...
poochman 5y ago
This. Jesus christ dude. She's just a plate. Treat her like one. Fuck other girls, get some abundance, and study https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3pltm2/humansockpuppets_guide_to_managing_your_bitches/
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This x 1000.
OP is her plate. only whereas OP is aggressive, she is passive which he interprets as “submissive.” honestly she’s a good plate too, it sounds like, but she has more going on than he knows about. NOT ltr material.
resnine 5y ago
But but but but her friend said so!!
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resnine 5y ago
"It's not a lie if you believe it"
Rubonyatittayz 5y ago
I guess its a ltr, we went on a lot of dates and shit before we had sex, but since then i've only been hitting her up to have sex. We never discussed the relatonship but she interprets it as ltr from what ive gathered.
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Rubonyatittayz 5y ago
Point taken.Thank you.
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Rubonyatittayz 5y ago
I had been for the first month,but not since.
FemtoG 5y ago
Very bizarre and confusing post.
First, the post makes the MOST sense if we call OP's bragging out as bullshit (I would guess OP is a 7/10, mildly attractive, is a model in the loosest sense of the term, decent IG status, but also mentally very beta and unrefined).
The post makes secondary sense if OP actually is super high SMV, and the girl is just trying (pathetically) to play game to keep up with him but it just comes off as weird and confusing aka desperately trying to show OP how she has tons of guys after her, how she is only in it for the hookup, etc.
Anyway, the story absolutely doesn't mesh well. The most bizarre thing is that really there should be no conflict. She is DTF, zero drama, chill, and at a good level of lower SMV than you, wtf more do you want? To have her stop making you wait 20 mins? Lmao every fucking girl does that.
That's why I think its bullshit humblebrag TRP posting.
YasserZe 5y ago
She's 19 in her sexual prime , don't expect from her to not ride the cock carousel
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friendandadvisor 5y ago
Very much so.
epicfadeout 5y ago
yeah that part sounded like something out of the Dennis Reynolds playbook smh
Something maybe a dark triad would do on a rainy day out of boredom. This guy merely talking about it sounds disastrous.
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Besides all the obvious red flags why are you trying to be with someone who doesn’t seem like they want to be with you?
If you go into a relationship as the one pushing for commitment she has all the leverage in the world over you, and she doesn’t seem like she wants commitment from you. You’re just her plate lol.
Trust me this is a mistake I made a bunch of times before I learned better. You NEVER go out into the world seeking an LTR. In times past, before I discovered TRP I would get tired of banging college sluts and try to look for a girl to cuff up for some emotional attachment and easy effortless sex. It never worked out well in the long run.
A girl should be begging for your commitment. And only give it to her if you’ve had enough time to vet her.
Also on a side note, are you seriously trusting this girl’s best friend to tell you her actual n count? It could be true, who knows, but it’s most likely double. Don’t be naive.
awakenedspirit1 5y ago
Spot on. This guy has seen the other side of what you're trying to see.
Victor-James 5y ago
You are being very naive OP. You cant really think this girls n count is less than 4 because her friend said so? Has it ever registered to you that she is lying to her friend regarding the true number?
You are right judge a girl by her actions not her words. She seems into you, but she also seems into other men as well. She agreed to meet another guy on IG. Cmon man. She owes you no exclusivity. She is a fwb and she is acting like one.
If a girl wants a relationship with you, she will bring it up to you. "Where is this going" "what are we", etc. She hasnt said any of this so if i were you just keep what you have and have fun with her and other girls.
johncillo 5y ago
THIS. Do not ever bring up exclusivity before she does it.
binrobinro 5y ago
"both ugly AS FUCK (like 5 and 6 and I'm being generous)"
And now you're one of them.
monsieurhire2 5y ago
Probably has a burner phone and another social media account you know nothing about. The whole "I could tell you, but I don't want to lie you" is extreme sketch. Also, all the dudes she has circling around her are beta slaves, backup dicks or prospects for potentially an upgrade. For every 10-20 losers you know about, there is a legit dude somewhere.
Sounds like she could conceivably be a hooker or something.
You are essentially wasting your time with this person.
TitsAndWhiskey 5y ago
And by the way, gents - if a hot chick is not on social media, it is because she is spinning plates.
A lot of you don't want to believe this, but there are chicks out there banging so many dudes at once that they are afraid of it going public and letting their whole family see what a slut they are because 5 dudes start mate guarding on every fucking facebook post.
BPasFuck 5y ago
THIS motherfucker right here.
If you wanted to beef it up a little, this could be a post.
A basic, basic, basic, concept.
Social Media is chickcrack. No bitch is going to go without chickcrack, unless she's trying to keep worlds from colliding.
azelgeewade 5y ago
Don’t call me unless we’re having sex she said, she doesn’t want to be upgraded you dumbass.
shubhidoobi 5y ago
Go no contact until she msgs you. You'll get the idea.
UrkleBear 5y ago
You know she’s a slut right? Sounds like you’re catching feels. I’m sure she’d rather you keep the abundance.
skittles_man 5y ago
19yo HB8 , NEVER TEXTS or initiates hang outs, always DTF when I call her. No drama.
Why ruin a good thing?
Ruby_Red_Pill_Maker 5y ago
thots
Pluglord 5y ago
lots of thots
red_matrix 5y ago
She said not you call unless you can fuck. She gives her number to everyone. And you still think she's a unicorn? Dude. You're in denial and have oneitius. Do not make her an LTR, she's a plate, and she's fucking lots of guys at once. You're just in her rotation.
chazthundergut 5y ago
Dont upgrade her. She is a very low-drama fuckbuddy. Why the fuck would you ruin that?
Cut out the games. Why would you want to stir up some bullshit just to stroke your ego? Sounds like some chick drama shit to me.
In short: you have a good thing. Don't fuck it up.
helaughsinhidden 5y ago
You are the plate and she has better game than you do
Velebit 5y ago
She is likely shizoid type personality. Keep her as a fuck and suggest her to visit a psychologist.
zboo1h 5y ago
In my experience young women (especially good looking ones who fuck strangers quickly and routinely) are very bad at lying, and very good in relationships. Give her all your resources, my dude!
johncillo 5y ago
Yeah man, oneitis, I’ve been there, is not easy, you need to stay away because you are her plate, and you developed feelings. Sorry bro but if you don’t want to get hurt and be treated like a fool you need to fuck other girls/focus on yourself. Huge red flags. Clearly this is not mutual.
cptgoatsack 5y ago
Never upgrade a cumdumpster.
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Pros are that she is into you and easy. Otherwise, she sounds like a dumb attention whore. Do not LTR.
friendandadvisor 5y ago
Sounds to me as if you are high enough SMV to be the requisite 2 points above her, and are drawing her further, but, your BP habits are giving her concern. Every 2 steps forward, you go back 1.75 steps.
Youngyoda89 5y ago
The fact that she agreed to meet up and had real intentions of doing so says everything. ALSO- you mention that she isn’t too bright; that is not a good sign brother. There are plenty of women with average iq or better that look decent. Go for some of them instead.
TheRedPillMonkey 5y ago
Bro, like rule #1 of trp is never seek commitment. That's her job. Why the fuck are you seeking it you little beta bitch? Did she request the upgrade? Earn it? Cook you dinner in a slutty outfit and then suck your cock while you ate it in a bid to earn LTR status? No? Just good sex and no fights? Guess what, no fights is because she like the D and that's all she cares about. Nothing to fight about.
Also, you're not in an exclusive FWB relationship. She's fucking other dudes, guaranteed. If you think otherwise, then when I get done fucking her later I'll send you pics.
I get it, you caught oneitis. Learn that you did and understand that she's the one who needs to request commitment. Until then, just keep laying pipe.
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Massive oneitis holy shit
Narcissist456 5y ago
You just listed a wall of red flags about this thot and you’re asking if she’s ltr material?
allcity28 5y ago
I read 3 sentences and gave up. Game other girls asap. You have oneitis. Go re-read trp principles now. Shes fucking other guys for sure.
UnbreakableFrame 5y ago
You don't fully understand abundance. You just wrote a wall of text about a girl. TRP is not about girls, it's about you.
nofilmynofucky 5y ago
Any time there's this much text about a single girl: it's oneitis
BlackVale 5y ago
You don't want her from the sound of it. Give her to me and I wear that thang out daily. But seriously your putting all your eggs in one basket. Get another plate. If you don't like this treatment, then ditch her and get another plate. You shouldn't expect her to change for you because she won't. Who she is when you first met is who she will always be unless she is hiding something from you. If you want a girl who texts then get a bitch that texts and likes doing it with you.