I’ve known this girl for a few years due to social circle overlap. Throughout that time, she had a couple of boyfriends who were BP beta bitches. I cringe to think about how much they would romance her and kiss her feet. Total whiteknights. During that time, I had many plates which she knew about and this worked wonders for me in terms of preselection.
So a few months ago, I turn her into an FWB. This lasted for about 4 months which was fine. Good sex, treated me like a king. Then, one month ago, I upgraded her to LTR status. This is my first LTR in several years as I have mainly been focusing on spinning plates (in terms of sexual partners). Suddenly, something changed. She is now getting upset with me for not showing my emotions. For example, on Valentine’s day she wanted a soppy, heartfelt message which I failed to produce. Or in general, she wants me to be cheesy and declare my emotions, make her feel like a special princess etc. No doubt her exes were very good at this. She is getting visibly upset/pissy with me for not entertaining her fairytale fantasy. We have consistently seen each other only up to once a week since it all began 4-5 months ago and sometimes only every two weeks. However, we speak a lot on the phone which I know is ill-advised and the increased familiarity may be breeding contempt. Even so, she wishes I would message more throughout the day.
This doesn’t sound like a lot to ask for from her perspective when you consider mainstream social conventions, but obviously there is a big clash here with RP ideology. I’m very wary about entering her frame as well. Do I go radio silent and risk pushing her away completely, or succumb to her frame and message her more/show some emotion? Because I know a LTR requires a balance of RP and BP behaviours and this is something I struggle with.
Side note: I lift hard (best body she has had sex with), have a solid career and exciting hobbies. No immediate changes to be made there.
Advice?

[deleted] 8y ago
Show just 5% more feeling so she feels like she is "making progress"
abdada 8y ago
Pay attention to her actions, not her words.
jointfavor 8y ago
Ordinarily I’d hear her say “text me more, show emotion” and ignore it as long as I was getting the results I wanted. But now that her actions are beginning to reflect her words (she is getting visibly upset), I’m at a loss...
HappyMexican 8y ago
Still true. I first answer do you really want a LTR with this girl. Sounds like you could change it up if needed.
Secondly, If you do... I dunno about this needy behavior she is displaying. If you give in it's like "Sure nag me and I'll change". Yes, she is trying to turn you into what "She thinks" could be perfect guy. I think what it is, she might just be getting bored with the relationship, and THINKS this is the way to make it more exciting again. I also think you could do dread game, or more positive approach, just do a better job of entertaining her in general. Like taking her on more exciting dates or trying new sex position and stuff. She just sounds like shes bored with the status quo, and instead of making things better herself, she blames the man and is opting for you to change. Classic.
abdada 8y ago
Sounds like you're ignoring the 12 levels of dread so re-read that immediately.
Don't reward her with positive attention if she's giving you negative reactions to it.
chazthundergut 8y ago
EXACTLY. Her bad behavior (bitching, visibly upset, etc) should be responded to with an immediate withdrawal of attention.
[deleted] 8y ago
TIL: LTR = 1 month relationship.
dr_warlock Senior Endorsed 8y ago
This is not an rp issue. You can't hope to maintain a 'bond' when you only see each other once every 2 weeks. It's biology. Twice a week would make more sense or once a week with some texts in between.
zboo1h 8y ago
This could be re-written as "7-year old wants me to let him eat candy and stay up all night, every night."
Don't listen to children.
BrodinsOats 8y ago
Show her how you feel about her with your physicality. Give her some of that slow stroke deep dick heavy eye contact sex. But continue to polarize this and be spare with your emotions verbally.
Herdsengineers 8y ago
so she wants to get treated like the disney princess she's been spoonfed to believe she is? if you give in what will she be demanding next? this shit doesn't stop. it's a "if you give a mouse a cookie..." type situation.
it comes down to she needs to accept you as you are, and not try to change you. once she accepts you as you are, she needs to decide if that's what she wants or not. and in the mean time, give her some soft nexting and reduced contact. no need to put supplicate yourself to her through all this. show her self respect and confidence in yourself, and willingness to walk if you feel you need to.
her hamster will spin so hard, it will jump the wheel off the support and crash. she'll be forced to reveal her true genuine self, and you'll get to see whether she's really what you want or not.
Datanami 8y ago
Daniel Rose wrote something along the lines of : "It is a misconception that women don't like emotional men, they just don't like emotional men who aren't dominant"
dopefits 8y ago
Read up on comfort tests sounds like you’re dealing with some comfort tests like they were shit tests
CutLiver 8y ago
Don't change just because she thinks she wants it. Obviously if she wanted an emotional weakling she'd be with someone else.
Also, cut out the long phone conversations, or cut them short.
RAiderNat88 8y ago
This is the paradox of the LTR. Remember shit tests don't stop when you're in an LTR they increase and amplify because she subconsciously wants to know if you're really that alpha or not. Just because you are doesn't mean she's going to stop, she'll keep testing you and you'll have to always have your head on a swivel. Some bitches really do go crazy if they can't change a man, but this is the price of the LTR that you are already aware about right? Just remember this, you set the rules, your bitch doesn't.
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319Skew 8y ago
A woman will tell you what she think she wants. If you follow it, you'll lose everything that she actually needs and she will get bored and swing, cheat or leave.
HappyMexican 8y ago
Yeah common annoying trap. Woman are so bad at knowing what they want in relationships.
[deleted] 8y ago
definitely, you're giving a little bit and she's wanting more. Make it clear that you're more than happy to spend time talking to her in person, but try to seem a bit busier when she tries to phone you.
There's nothing wrong with talking on the phone to check in, but just try not to be talking on the phone all the time.
mainstream social conventions are becoming more and more dictated by lib-tard feminazi cucks. Don't follow them. Don't go radio silent, just let her know you're busy (even if you actually aren't lol) so you won't always be able to text her as often as she's asking.
Don't go radio silent, just let her know that you can only do so much and that if she's going to ask for more than you can give then maybe it won't work out.
again, even if you aren't actually too busy to text her that often, you can't let yourself bend over backwards just because that's what she wants. She needs to respect your time.
chachaChad 8y ago
You don't know that and even if they did, who fucking cares. It's your turn. You do you. Those beta might have kissed her feet but they didn't give her enough tingles for her to stick around. They aren't worth another thought from you.
Honestly, it almost sounds like a case where you could do a little constructive problem solving so you can both get what you need. Give her a little of that emotional lovey, dovey talk but do it in bed with her mouth full. You're not succumbing to her frame when you fill her needs in way that is also good for you.
Darkroast42 8y ago
It's a shit test. Hold your frame and let her know you're not sappy and beta like her exes. Do this with your RP behaviors. Just do you
chazthundergut 8y ago
Stop talking to her on the phone. STOP TALKING TO HER ON THE PHONE.
It's normal for chicks to push for more. More commitment, more emotions, more resources, more attention, etc. It's your job as the man to set the boundaries. Trust me, the very last thing you need with this chick is more emotional connection. She is way too comfortable with you as it is.
You need to condition her from the beginning. Good behavior gets attention and sex from you, bad behavior gets a withdrawal of attention. It's very simple. But in order for this to work, your attention must be worth something. Stop giving it away so freely.
mrpthrowa 8y ago
I'm gonna go ahead and tell you that once every 2 weeks is a bit too little for an LTR and it's likely she feels she is dealing with her own emotional shit on her own without a rock by her side and is projecting this on you so she tries to get you to open to her so she opens up to you. You don't fix this by messaging more often (certainly don't initiate, let her initiate), but by more physical presence and making her "feel special", aka fuck her rough.
Or you're showing beta signs and she's shit testing. It's hard to tell from your description.
Anyway, when she goes cheesy objectify her:
"tell me you love me"
-> "i love your tits"
She'll eat it up.
Once in a while throw her an emotional bone. it's ok . "you're so pretty" as you drill her pussy.
SeamusAwl 8y ago
You should have given her an index card with "Something soppy and heartfelt" written on it verbatim. And then when she gives you that look... just say that you completely agree with her look and you were completely puzzled but decided to give her what she asked for. then smirk..
Whisper Vanguard 8y ago
The best way to make a woman miserable is to give her all the things she claims to want.
beermagnate 8y ago
Fuck that emotions bs. Demote her ass.