I know a girl who was a bit chunky and like a HB4 but with a pretty face and 18 years old. She wasn't the Virgin Mary, but she wasn't that promiscuous either--standard girl with a couple notches but nothing crazy.
Anyways, chick basically moved into the gym and in about a year and a half went from chunky 5'8" HB4 with a pretty face to HB8 with a much nicer, well-shaped face and a pretty nice ass too. She also stopped going out and doesn't drink any alcohol at all, and from what I know, hasn't had a "hook-up" since before she was still fat--so almost two years ago now. And this is a HB8 20 y/o.
She also seems to be off the cock carousel as towards the later part of her transformation she got a BF.
Do we commend a girl like this on TRP? It seems to me like she did what we are all mostly trying to do. She was basically the female version of a beta (can get sex but no relationships, whereas betas can get relationships but not sex) and said fuck that shit and took control of her own destiny and now dates a high value male.
Maybe she wasn't born female "alpha," but she became it with the help of naturally good genetics.
Additionally, she seems pretty humble because she knows what it's like to be invisible to men as well and doesn't take male attention for granted--neither does she have a huge bitch shield from swatting guys away all her life because she never had to do that.
So what do you guys think of a girl like that? Or do you guys just think AWALT and insert negative opinions about what her possible intentions may have been or whatever? (And just before anyone says it, I don't think she did it just to get a BF then will return to being a fatty--she's had the BF for a while now and only improved since they got together. Maybe the guy just has rock solid frame and is a great leader that whips his girl into shape, though. I don't know him, so I don't know.)
TonytheNetworker 5y ago
I would say that's impressive but I wouldn't glorify her for it. I would treat it much the same way I would my good bros. Give a genuine compliment, encourage them to continue, and treat them accordingly. No more, no less.
freew33zy 5y ago
I mean yeah, it's not a HUGE thing--but it just really struck me as being the parallel to what we do here, but as a female.
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I think it's very impressive.
There's a girl that goes to my gym that went from a 6 to a 9 in the span of a few years. She started off at my gym looking holocaust survivor skinny, not much to look at really. She lifted hard af tho and a few years later she has almost the ideal female body and surprisingly her face improved as well.
It's those kind of girls I respect the most, the ones that built themselves up from nothing to be high smv. Even my dad who trains with me was like "if you ever settle down with a girl it should be one like that because she knows real struggle".
RedHoodhandles 5y ago
Former fatties who turned their bodied around with hard training and dedication are gold. They know both sides of the coin and come closest to the experience of what it's like to be a man. My ex ex was one of those. Submissive bliss.
alpha_bravado 5y ago
It shows green flags. Discipline and willingness to change. Things common to a redpiller
VasiliyZaitzev 5y ago
She's not a unicorn, but props for her for improving her situation when most women would sit around and bitch about how "unfair" beauty standards are and how men should like fat chix.
You just have to watch her on back-sliding. It's likely pretty easy for her to put weight on, etc.
freew33zy 5y ago
I mean, yeah, not a unicorn--those don't exist--but honestly I would be willing to, at least right now, put her into the "quality woman" category. Which is rare these days.
red_matrix 5y ago
I'd say it's a green flag. Proceed with caution. She could also be enjoying all the new found attention and riding the CC on warp speed to make up for lost time. But, as a fatty she could've got all the dick she wanted.
[deleted] 5y ago
Think about it this way.
You don’t congratulate her for becoming fit. You’re supposed to be fit. Congratulating her for getting fit is like congratulating her for studying. She should have been studying, fit, financially smart or whatever fits the case.
I’d have no problem pounding a girl who got fit but I’d be apprehensive to put her above a plate status. She likely had mental health issues or other bullshit excuses that “made her fat.” Do you really want to deal with that when you’re further down the line? That’s up to you but me, I’ll pass.
freew33zy 5y ago
As far as she says, it's more that she just didn't realize she should be in-shape, etc. Have seen her mom--can 100% vouch for the fact that that woman would not encourage anyone to be in shape (enormous woman, easily easily obese and RAGING feminist who hates men--daughter used to be somewhat feminist but is now against most of it). And as soon as she moved out for college, she almost immediately began fixing her weight. Again, equating to the Red Pill, it was a very BP upbringing where things like "looks don't matter" were stressed. And she RP'd herself.
But otherwise the chick is not mentally unstable at all--top 1% American college, healthy social life, pleasant to be around, pretty limited social media usage mostly to either post something she thinks is funny or something with her BF every few months. Now, what goes on behind the scenes? I don't know; I think we all know that some people seem 'healthier' from an outsiders' perspective than to someone who really knows them.
But I can definitely see your point about some girls who get fit after not being fit. A lot of them have a vendetta against "those who rejected them before" or think they should be worshipped. That's not the case here, though.
[deleted] 5y ago
Well if the mother is 9000lbs that would be enough to make me run haha. I’d say tread lightly because she seems like a wildcard.
freew33zy 5y ago
Haha, it's not me to be treading--she's just a friend. But yeah the 9,000 pound mother is pretty intimidating but it's largely due to a terrible lifestyle, which the girl is kind of disgusted by and wants no part of. So, I guess the mom situation could be viewed two ways--either as a red flag for shitty genetics or a green flag that the girl is self-aware of her mom and takes measure to avoid that. I guess it's a "buyer beware" situation
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freew33zy 5y ago
Admittedly the thought has crossed my mind, but that's not the point of this post as I don't ever expect or really desire it to happen. She has value as a friend anyways.
But unless your standard is N=0, she's a fine choice for someone else imo. Have been close enough to know, and her n-count is sub-5, which for a soon-to-be 21 y/o HB8 is pretty low. Especially considering it's verified and not a "my girlfriend says I was her second" type thing.
[deleted] 5y ago
If you aren’t interested in her then what the hell is this thread about??
BusterVadge 5y ago
Mental masturbation.
freew33zy 5y ago
Exactly. And if you don't want to masturbate with me, go find your own thread
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[deleted] 5y ago
I heard tampons are gender neutral.
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[deleted] 5y ago
Do us all a favor and read the rules & sidebar.
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[deleted] 5y ago
You care way too much.
Read it again.
it_takes_the_redpill 5y ago
Maybe I look differently, but I congratulate people all the time on their progress toward their goals. Look at how much congrats goes on in our community for the progress. It would be a grim world if people posted stuff like "just got my first 2 plates and overcame my oneitis, gained 30lb!" and got hit with "so? You should have a full harem of chicks ready to come over at a moment's notice. And you should have already had 30lb of lean muscle by your age."
Obviously excessive compliments are unnecessary, but still.
That's an odd take on it.
Would you say all girls should be apprehensive to fuck with guys coming off TRP because they were skinny-fat gamers in the past and likely had mental health issues or other bullshit excuses that "made them _____"?
I know there are some people that have mental health issues like anorexia and stuff, but there are still plenty of people who simply weren't aware of the way things worked because they were spoon fed a line of BP bullshit during their upbringing.
[deleted] 5y ago
I don’t care what other women do or don’t do.
it_takes_the_redpill 5y ago
Okay, but that's dodging the point entirely.
Do you believe people shouldn't compliment other people on self improvement?
Does that stuff about underlying mental issues apply to men at TRP? None of us are worth anything more than a quick lay because we started behind the curve?
[deleted] 5y ago
No, it’s not because TRP is amoral and I don’t have to justify the way I feel or think.
it_takes_the_redpill 5y ago
Agreed. This has nothing to do with morality, though.
You said you think girls who go from fat to skinny aren't worth much because they probably suffer from mental instability. I'm just pointing out that's exactly what men who subscribe here are doing--going from undesirable to desirable. And that often has little to do with their mental health. Many people simple realize they need to start improving if they want results.
You don't. And if you don't want to engage in discussion, that's fine. You offered up an opinion that seems hypocritical or misguided. I'm not trying to "win" here or attack you, I'm just trying to help either clarify your point or change your mind (or dissuade others from a misguided view if it that's what it is.)
[deleted] 5y ago
How about you dissuade other’s from DEERing by STFU?
You care WAY too much.
The amount of energy you’ve invested to prove your point of view to someone could have been better spent doing what? Reading, lifting, or STFU right??
freew33zy 5y ago
I don't think the 3 minutes total he's spent responding here have hurt his quest to become alpha lol
it_takes_the_redpill 5y ago
I know what DEER means. I have no idea what you are saying anymore.
As in I actually don't follow anything you just said.
Thunderfin 5y ago
I tried talking with this guy already; he's just crass and close-minded, not willing to listen to what others have to say.
Next.
it_takes_the_redpill 5y ago
Yeah his particular flavor of argument--appeal to authority, mixed with buzzwords--wasnt doing it for me anymore.
FeralRed 5y ago
Ugly duckling syndrome.
topothebellcurve 5y ago
If it's as you described, then cheers to her.
Improvement is inherently good.
heyuguyzbrekfazt 5y ago
Green flag. It means shes not an idiot, knows when she is the problem, and knows how to solve the problem. This is the type of thing I look for in women. Too many women would rather have a pity party.
With that said, this should be expected of all women, so don't put her on a pedestal for it.
creating_my_life 5y ago
Good for her. Respect.
[deleted] 5y ago
sure. and i'll fuck her
Wrath_of_Trump 5y ago
Not being fat is generally a good thing, but it will have the downside of new attention they weren't getting before, and they will respond to it.
Thunderfin 5y ago
What do you mean "what do you think"? Why do you care what we think? If you're happy for her, say so. Why does everyone insist on making things complicated...
W_O_M_B_A_T 5y ago
Don't tell me you're getting oneitis already.....