I am currently working a job that pays a salary which enables a comfortable living (supports all my needs and with some extra to safe) but at the same time, I work close to 60-70 hours a week (I don't get over time pay) which leaves little time to do the things that TRP teaches: working out, reading, developing a hobby, socializing in real life (most of my socializing are just through texts with friends since I am usually at work day or night).
I've recently obtained an offer for a job with a salary that pays about 10% less (it will still meet all my needs and a bit extra to save) but I would be working closer to 40-45 hours a week. Logically, it seems like the right choice, although my salary would be less, I would be making much more on a "per hour" basis. I was initially quite excited for this as it would allow me to develop the other parts of my life. However, I have some friends who disagree and states that at my age, I should be going for as much money as possible and that it's normal to put in all of my time into work.
How would a TRP-er analyze this situation?
TL:DR - been offered a job with slightly less salary but much more free time; how does TRP analyze the situation?
Edit: Thanks for all the responses - It was helpful trying to see what TRP would think in this situation. On the one hand TRP really encourages improving yourself (whereas in this situation, going to a lower paying job would not be improving), at the same time, TRP also values reading, working out, socializing (which the lower paying job would allow). Its was helpful just to get more perspectives and hear everyone's considerations!
caxica 11y ago
Take the new job and get smarter friends. You might die next year so why spend your youth working? If you take the new job do you really think it's possible you'll end up on your deathbed thinking "man if only I'd stayed at the salary mcjob working 65 hour weeks in the prime of my life"
I mean if you absolutely love your current job then stay but from the sound of it you're indifferent so you should take the new one. It's a 10% pay cut for a 33% cut in work hours. This is a no-brainer.
splitty88 11y ago
Hey thanks for adding the death perspective. I've definitely missed out on so much in life cuz of the hours. My gf left me a few months ago cuz i was always busy or tired from work and I was never happy cuz all I did was work. Thanks for commenting! Cheers!
Zaorish9 11y ago
I say take the job with less hours. Trp teaches that social relations are real, valuable power. More time with friends and more friends is worth more than a little more money.
splitty88 11y ago
That's what attracted me to TRP. Parents always tell me to work hard study hard get a high paying job and you'll be happy.
Assaultman67 11y ago
Your parents want you to be successful. However they measure success in terms of professional and fiscal success. They usually neglect your mental health.
(pretty much the same situation for me)
648262 11y ago
How long have you been with your current company?
Also... Do you want to focus on your private life currently? Because what ever you would like to focus on, that is what you should do. So says The Red Pill :)
Assaultman67 11y ago
I guess this is true, however, I think everyone is under the assumption that he wants a better social life because thats what most of us are here for.
TRP doesn't focus as much on personal success such as obtaining money and getting a good job. Mostly we're focused on how to increase social circle status. It is definitely true though that you can be completely lacking in one area and extremely abundant in the other.
648262 11y ago
Isn't it more like this though?
The thing is, there is a time to:
I spend so much time with work that if I don't have a personal commitment and interest to it then I am doing the wrong stuff.
I don't see work as something that it's in the way of my social life. Work is a part of my life and from there it's just about what to focus on. For me it's divided into work, learning and training.
Assaultman67 11y ago
I agree that's the way it should be ... but I get the impression that all the posts here revolve mainly around getting girls in the sack with is a social aspect.
648262 11y ago
Yeah, I think you see the big picture. All the posts about getting girls comes from new people. Basically most posts are from new people and this whole journey usually starts with getting girls, while the solution is a lifestyle change involving many things.
mrsdb 11y ago
Something to be said for the quality of life. I like what they do in some countries ....where shops close in the heat of the day and everyone drinks a little vino.
splitty88 11y ago
I actually feel happier when the weather is shit so I don't feel like i wasted another 12 hours in the office.
[deleted] 11y ago
You have to factor in benefits, gas....401k contributions.
splitty88 11y ago
Ya I've been feeling like all the other aspects of my life have been "falling behind" just so I can keep up with work.
cray-cray-cray 11y ago
Go for as much happiness as possible.
For some people, that is money. For some people, that is leisure time. Most people have a backward bending labor supply curve. (look it up)
[deleted] 11y ago
So much this.
Some people like money, others like free time. Find what you want, and pursue that as much as you can.
laere 11y ago
Taking the job won't change your comfortable living. You said yourself it still meets your needs, while being able to save on the side.
Take the new job, fuck what your idiot friends are saying, and use the extra time to increase your extra activities.
Assaultman67 11y ago
This is just simple economics.
Take the new job.
If you don't have the time to enjoy your new life then what's the point?
captainbloodd 11y ago
Take the new job man. Fuck working 60 to 70 hrs a week, unless your current job is your passion and you love it. Doesn't sound like that's the case though.
rp_manifesto 11y ago
This depends on your current salary. If you are making 30k a year, 10% is 3k. Thats an average of $250 less a month, then add in free time and "doing stuff" and you are spending even more on top of that. For an income so small, it could be bank breaking and decrease your quality of life.
On the other hand 10% of 70k is just 7k, and 63K is still a respectable salary. You might need to cut out some luxuries, but you may not. Ultimately its about what you want and your personal goals. You can still go out and have a lot of fun on a 25k salary if you do it right, you can also go into debt quick and really mess up your finances trying to "live it up" on a small salary. You have to be money smart, not rich, to have fun.
[deleted] 11y ago
Always go with more money
Assaultman67 11y ago
You realize he could get a part time job for 20 hours and the job offer than working 60 hours at a time?
There is a time component to factor in.