Let's say, for example, that you find yourself experiencing a stroke, or you've been stabbed through the chest and are losing consciousness, or you've just been diagnosed with cancer, or you have early-onset alzheimer's and are no longer in full control of your faculties.
How do you maintain frame enough to keep the people who you've taken care of up to now, interested in taking care of you until you recover (or until you cack it, if recovery isn't possible)?
Especially, how do you do so when the parts of your brain responsible for emotional regulation and logical decision-making are actually shutting down and are no longer capable of participating in the process of 'being you'?
I wish this was theoretical.
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throwaway_trp_ab 11y ago
Except I'm not just talking about 'her'; I'm ALSO talking about the friends. Why should they stick around once I'm no longer capable of being worthwhile? We're not exactly in a culture that supports "pay in honorably for 40 years and you'll be taken care of honorably after that" any more, and I don't want to be yet another mumbling homeless guy that no one gives a shit about, yet I ALSO don't want to be yet another suicide coward.
complete_asshole_ 11y ago
What the fuck kind of friends and family do you have that they'd abandon you like that? Are they all a bunch of psychopaths you met in prison?
If this is how you see human relations go over to /r/RaisedByNarcissists. Red pill is about gaining and maintaining dominance and becoming a lothario and/or esteemed leader.
This view of personal familial interaction as some sort of capitalist prisoner's dilemma that you're indicating isn't within the boundaries of healthy or normal at all...
throwaway_trp_ab 11y ago
I actually was raised by narcissists, yes. And I prefer here because you people actually own your narcissism - I don't have to pretend like there's such a thing as "healthy" relationships in RP.
Gaining and maintaining dominance is how I ensure that my needs are met in an otherwise indifferent or even hostile world.
[deleted] 11y ago
I believe people on this thread generally hyperbolize how quickly women "stop caring" about men when they shift from alpha to beta.
It has a lot to do with how long your relationship has been going on. If you date someone for 3 months, find out you have cancer, then act vulnerable, too fucking bad for you! She has no obligation to treat you special. If you were dating a girl for 3 months and found out she wouldn't have sex with you anymore due to a medical condition, would you stick it out?
On the other hand, maybe you take the plunge, get married (or just live together) and you're both happy for 20 years. Find out you get cancer, she's not just going to drop you in just a few short weeks. Months maybe, years probably.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is... Don't get cancer.
throwaway_trp_ab 11y ago
NOW you tell me.
In my case, it was around 7-8 years, and it's hard to say how long she (or my friends) "stuck it out", because it's hard to say how long the whole situation lasted. I didn't find out that there was something wrong until towards the end, but there were signs of physical and mental deterioration before then.
While the situation is in the past, I'd like to be able to say that I learned from it - hence my post.
[deleted] 11y ago
Well, Since I don't actually know the situation, I can't tell you anything. If, however, your father or grandfather or hell YOU had cancer and recovered only to find that your wife/gf/whatever left you then I would have to say...
In the event of cancer... There's nothing you can do. Genetics has clearly said "FUCK THIS GUY IN PARTICULAR". You have a genetic physical weakness and unless you pick your gf/wife/whatever very carefully, you're out of luck.
Also it's quite possible the person you're referring to is an asshole. I don't know I only know the original post and the one above this. Just because someone gets sick doesn't mean they're not a dick.
As far as friends go, pick better friends. You have the choice.
648262 11y ago
I have no idea. Fake it until you make it?
I guess you're about to find out who your real friends are.