So here is another Sad Tale of the Sisterhood Spinsterhood. I happened to be on a flight into JFK yesterday and read it in the NYTimes, which was the only paper available in the languages in which I am conversant. On the one hand, I do feel a bit sorry for her. OTOH, she's likely exactly the type of "I Don't NEED No MAN!!!" liberal-feminist-protester-twat who I dislike.
I will try to keep the Schadenfreude to a minimum...and I will fail.
17 Million Frozen Sperm Await the Perfect Moment
Every other month I receive two vials of frozen sperm in a nitrogen tank, which is then emptied, the vials labeled and kept frozen until the exact time of month I’m ready for them. This window of readiness is brief: 12 to 24 hours. When I detect that ovulation is imminent, the vial is defrosted. Ninety minutes later, 17 million sperm are inserted into my uterus via a catheter.
Sounds romantic, doesn't it? /s
I do this because I am 39 and single and my craving for a child eclipses everything else, including my secret fear that this process will be successful.
So, not sure what she was doing between 21 and 39 - but she was definitely putting off marriage and family because babies are such a drag - they cut into fun time and they poop a lot - but her prime time baby-having years are in the rear-view mirror. This is a problem for young women who decide that they are "Too Cool For The Universe" and somehow they can put off until later what nature intended for them in the blossom of their their 20s.
The donor I have chosen is tall, well educated, lean, laconic, a chemical engineer who researches renewables. He’s a cyclist, they tell me, who clicks down the halls of the center in his special cycling shoes. Affable but not warm. His mother’s people are Tatars, Muslim nomads from the Central Asian Steppe. I like all that he seems to represent: intellect, precision, hardiness, planetary repair.
Her imagined Chad is a Tatar! Ok, time out for Russian guys to laugh at this. Meanwhile, note that her hypergamy is in full (imaginary) bloom...about a guy who walks down a hallway in his clicky cycling shoes to jack off so old maids can let his sperm ooze into them from catheters.
At a bachelorette dinner for a friend in late July, I met Sadie. She was loud, brash, a presence. From across the table, I overheard her describing plans to drive south for the coming eclipse, and a deep longing welled up inside me. “If you have space —— ” I said. “We may.”
There were four of us going: Sadie; her husband, Steve; and, from what I could deduce, an elderly relation named Eli. “Eli doesn’t text or use email,” Sadie wrote. “So I will call him.” They arrived early Saturday morning with a fiddle, a ukulele and Eli, who stood quietly to the side, a guitar case slung across his back. He was my height, and younger, his sandy hair thinning on top. He had a soccer player’s build, side burns, a square jaw: pleasant looking but not my type.
Not her type...yet.
Every day for me is an exercise in letting go. I have to let go of rage. I have to let go of fear. I have to let go of everything I thought my life would be and isn’t.
Reread that last sentence again: I have to let go of everything I thought my life would be and isn’t. If only she'd adjusted those expectations back in her 20s, but she no doubt deserved only the best, etc.
Sadie said, “The people in the back have to give back rubs to the people in the front.” And then, before I let myself think, I reached over and squeezed Eli’s shoulders. Through his T-shirt, I could feel the musculature of his back, his spine, its finger holds. It had been a long time since I had touched a man. Doing so now felt decadent and exhilarating. There was a hunger in my hands, an urgency.
The plight of the post-Wall^SPLAT! woman.
Anyway, she winds up in a queen bed with Eli, and the guy who wasn't her type...was suddenly her type.
Crawling under the sheets later that night, Eli was looking at me. For the first time, I noticed his eyes, bright blue.
Or maybe she's desperate for a baby daddy. Nah, gotta be the blue eyes. That Hamster is Hamming away....
We lay in the bed, he on his side, me on mine. In the dark I thought: “Where are you? Come closer!”
Is that love in the air? Or desperation? I think we know. At the beginning of the trip, recall that he "wasn't her type." Now, her type is "has a functioning penis", evidently.
It was a blind progression of intrepid searching, inch by inch. I bumped into him and he did not pull away. And that’s how it happens, how we find each other.*
Translation: there was a seduction of the moist and clutching sort, kind of like the kind that happens in the freshman dorms, and Eli probably fucked her in self-defense.
On Monday at dawn we drove a final hour south on empty roads meandering through mist-filled forests. The light filtered down, dim and soft.
The Literary Woman^TM dresses up her getting boned by a rando with some flowery language.
Eli followed me down into the water, which was oddly warm, and I wondered, despondently, “What have we done here?” We huddled together in the shallow waters where a snapping turtle was sunning itself on a log.
A little morning-after N+1 regret.
After, I went to the restroom and peed in a cup. The circle that appeared was perfectly empty, a blank white sun.
And Eli dodges a bullet.
When I went back outside, the light had begun to change, growing dimmer. Eli was lying on his back. I lay down beside him.
Translation: "Saddle up again, Tiger!"
From the back seat, Eli reached up to touch the back of my neck.
Or maybe it was her imagination.
I wanted to live in that moment forever, to tether myself to that particular point in time. I wanted to take the moment and bend it like a ray of light, extract its color and orbit it endlessly like a sun. But our planet moves through space at the rate of 18 miles per second — 18 miles per second!
Lots of flowery words, but....
I did not hear from Eli again.
Pumped...and dumped.
This isn’t the ending I wanted
Do tell?
So we see laid bare the consequences of the "You GO GURRRRRL!" feminism of the modern West. Maybe it's a good thing, because it would act as a check on the militant Feministas if they don't breed. Beyond that, I doubt she'd have looked at Eli twice back when she was 1 and 20 and had the whole world in front of her - first, move to NYC and live the who Sex Sluts and the City" lifestyle, win a Puliltzer, third meet "Mr. Big" three days after her 30th birthday and then conceive, naturally, because everyone knows that shit is easy right? Instead she's dripping the preserved splooge of some bicycle messenger into her twat each month.
The Wall^SPLAT! sure depreciated the fuck (literally) out of her "golden ticket".....
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So, what's wrong with Tatars?
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
They’re Tatars, du-uh.
hodltaco 7y ago
Consequence of modern feminism? Alone and bitter ladies living together in shared flats with their cats. Fuck ‘em all.
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If there was any semblance of feminine traditions or respect of fertility this Woman would be able to act as a mentor to her younger family or younger Women to pass on "Women's Business" or whatever and ensure the mistakes wouldn't be repeated.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
She's likely too self-involved and solipsistic for that.
Questionnaire7 7y ago
How is this in the NY times
Docbear64 7y ago
Big well-written pieces don't get a million impressions and the subsequent ad revenue so society keeps dumbing shit down so that more people click on it even if it's shit quality. Ad spot purchasers care about views not content.
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I'm not gonna hold my breath for the NYTimes story about a man who put off his education and hard work and really really wants a career now that he is 40.
Seriously, the world calls him a bum and no violins play sob stories for men whose life didn't go as wished!
If bitches want equality, then I'll dole out my sympathy equally
max_peenor 7y ago
There is far more money in feeding 200 million hungry hamsters than there is in telling the truth.
AlphaGrad 7y ago
Standards have severely plummeted.
TFWnoLTR 7y ago
It appeals to the post-wall career women who make up a large portion of their remaining loyal readership.
TheReformist94 7y ago
THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR WOMEN. THEY HAVE SHOWN ON MASS THEY DONT WANT COMMITMENT, ONLY WANT THE CC AND CHILDREN ARE A BURDEN.
red_matrix 7y ago
NYT has been doubling down on feminism the last two years (it's started with Hillary).
boo_radley_awesome 7y ago
FAKE NEWS. This is what they've become lol
fromthecrypt8 7y ago
NY times is the new Huffpost
Troll_Name 7y ago
NY Times rents their offices out to make more money than staffing them.
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unhealthy1 7y ago
Title should be: "Post wall woman bangs random stranger to try to have kid." jerry springer level trash right here. They dress it up in flowery language but what happened to the 22 yrs before this? Surely there was at least 1 man out of 3 BILLION men that could have met the lofty expectations of a 39 yr old woman who just wants a kid.
I have no sympathy for these women. They spent their prime breeding years banging random men, partying and focusing on career. Then at age 39 RISK endangering their child with life long autism because they suddenly feel they deserve a child at age 39. Utter Recklessness and selfishness. What about the poor boy who will risks life long autism and unhealthy lifestyle being born for this chick. She doesnt think twice about endangering child.
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A few decades ago, the average age that an American woman had her last child was 43. Waiting to 39 and suddenly deciding you want to have a kid is crazy, but women having kids well into their forties is nothing new.
Incel9876 7y ago
Those women usually were having the last of say eight to twelve or more children, each child was about a one year vacation for her reproductive system, enabling her to keep conceiving and birthing healthy babies. Putting off marriage and/or child bearing until thirties and forties is something entirely different, comparatively new, but also as old as many an advanced ancient civilization that has become decadent and near to collapse.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
One imagines that it speaks to a decent number of their readers. Oh, and the NYT started it's long careening swan dive into the pavement years ago.
wanderer779 7y ago
When the internet came it was sort of like 'the wall' for these folks. All of a sudden the old tricks didn't work as well. Reading MSM after wikileaks and 4chan is just comedy now. It's like watching a con man try to swindle you when you already know the trick. You almost start feeling sorry for him.
With that being said apparently a good part of the population still takes these folks seriously so they still have considerable influence.
SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 7y ago
What news outlets would you recommend?
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VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
There aren't many. Even NR isn't your dad's NR. I tend to gather information from a variety of sources, but I also understand to read critically, thus I can weed out all the bullshit in the Times or in
WaPoJeff Bezo's blog.In terms of folks who come at things the straightest, I'd say the WSJ, the Economist and what's left of National Review. Hasn't been the same since WFB died.
Westernhagen 7y ago
These days National Review is just cucks jerking off about Muh Principles and bemoaning the vulgarity of Trump.
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indivisibleremainder 7y ago
a woman fucking a guy and expecting commitment in return is like a dude buying a woman dinner and expecting sex
beginner_ 7y ago
The romanticizing the sperm donor thing is the most funny aspect. The fact he donated his sperm means he is a complete weirdo and probably something wrong with him.
Westernhagen 7y ago
He donated sperm because the sperm bank paid him a LOT of money to do so when he was a relatively poor grad student.
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How did you come to this conclusion? To me, the fact that he donated sperm means he’s willing to make quick and easy money for ejaculating into a cup.
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beginner_ 7y ago
I assume you get paid a meaningful amount? Don't really see any other reason for doing it.
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BrownGummyBear 7y ago
Good luck finding what you're looking for. Personally if I ever raise children I would adopt or do what Cridtisno Ronaldo did to have his own :] guy's a legend
Torabor64 7y ago
What's wrong about donating sperm?
beginner_ 7y ago
Why would you donate sperm?
If you think about that a little you should see that it must be special type of men that do that.
But that is more of a thought experiment. The real rational fact is:
Because the way feminism and social welfare is evolving even sperm donors will sooner or later be charged with child support and alimony because Mr. Government doesn't want to pay for it.
tnegaeR 7y ago
One of the most ill informed comments I’ve read on this sub.
Also:
For the money, the fuck do you think
BrownGummyBear 7y ago
"Why would you donate sperm?"
1) Because women can make a quick buck by being strippers, hoes and sugar babies. It's nice to know men have an option to make a quick buck by fapping (arguably a more moral thing to do than being a slut).
2) there are married/committed men who want to form a family but are not fertile.
Archange_ 7y ago
The attacks on the anonymity of sperm donors have already started in France. Pressure groups launch media campaigns every 2-3 years during a lull. In parallel creative lawyers craft convoluted pleas to have courts cancel the anonymity. Thus far without success.
In the media it's all about psychological balance, the understanding of origins, truth and transparency. In reality it's about money, money and money. Because the other laws are crystal clear : inseminated mothers would be able to extract financial support and inseminated children would receive a claim on the inheritance equal to the legitimate children.
Banincoming 7y ago
If even one case succeeded, no one would ever donate sperm again, and the clinics would have to pay a 1000 times more.
topothebellcurve 7y ago
Ive considered it. Biological imperative, man. Spread the seed, right?Raising two of my own and don't want to add to that. But, science and feminism to the rescue, I could have little buggers all over the place!
Torabor64 7y ago
Yeah, but those buggers would be raised by a single mother and a BP cuck. I wouldn't want to have children and not raise them after, otherwise there is no point.
topothebellcurve 7y ago
You can pass on your genes, you can pass on your culture. I am doing both with my sons, so i consider myself biologically successful so far. I could improve my cultural imapct by becoming socially influential. Probably won't happen to a great extent. I could improve my genetic impact by getting lots of women preagnant. Noooo thank you. Or i could come to the rescue of post wall strong independent women like in the op article. They wouldnt be mine culturally, but that part of the imperative doesn't care.
And now im curious how much it pays...
[deleted] 7y ago
Feminism is incredibly damaging to men, women and society at large.
I hope you're ready because it has a long way to go and a lot more damage to do yet.
Hjalmbere 7y ago
...and single 39-year old spinsters having test tube babies is just one of the effects.
Sararia 7y ago
Imagine the irreparable damage it would do to get would - be child, especially if it was a boy.
Nothing worse in this world than a boy being raised by a man - hating woman who will instill in him a sense of hatred for himself.
Fontess 7y ago
Although that statement is true its pretty damn easy to recognize sluts nowdays and to see what really woman are for because of pro feminism you go girl woman power movements. Its probably easiest than it has ever been. Grandmothers of these woman would probably turn in their graves if they see how their "legacy" is behaving nowdays.
Omnibrad 7y ago
Meanwhile the children of these women are turning in their graves aka mom's womb.
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BullshittingNonsense 7y ago
Hahaha that's what I think - my cousin is 27 and our grandmother had three kids at that age - 4, 3 and 2. Now that may be too early, but damn 27, a woman's clock is tick tick tocking.
Alathon 7y ago
If a man wants healthy children, he's more likely to get them from a woman of 23 than 33, that much is certain.
RedPilledRoaster 7y ago
I don’t know...I think feminism is finally starting its long, slow, painful death.
necfectra 7y ago
And a loooonnnng painful death it will be. So long in fact we will eventually forget it is dying. Or perhaps we as a species will be dying. Regardless, it will be very painful for everyone.
BluepillProfessor 7y ago
No doubt. Unfortunately there is a great deal of ruin in a nation and I think the women will keep pushing and destroying until they are stopped. When will we be willing to 'stop' them?
Even after the nation defaults on its debts and the people are starving in the streets feminism and the 87% of women in college with "gender studies" the top major, and entire physics, chemistry, and philosophy departments are disbanded they will continue to push.
Even when the West is no longer dominate but subordinate to China and the U.S. has an economy less than half the size of China, and a White population of less than 90 millions, while the Russian population is more than 300 million, and the Muslim population is greater than the Christian population, they will still continue towards their Marxist utopia.
Only when men are formed into bands and gangs for their own protection, and the army is disbanded, and the police are no longer paid will the street justice finally be meted out.
It will be like the French Revolution if we are lucky with only a few tens of thousands rounded up and hanged and beheaded or it could look like Romania and nicolae ceausescu if we are really lucky. More likely it will look like the "Great Leap Forward" which will suit our Mao loving opponents just fine.
Extremely_Photogenic 7y ago
I would agree that it seems feminism is declining, but there are two things to consider.
It's decline isn't certain. I'd put a large reason for the decline on the cultural shift that has been exacerbated by a Trump presidency. He needs to succeed for this to work.
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There are really only three possible futures at this point.
Western civilization dumps the SJW fantasies that are destroying it, and returns to reality.
Western civilization is taken over by an opposing masculine culture, like Islam.
Extremely_Photogenic 7y ago
It's ironic how badly woman fight against 1 meanwhile the result of their success would be 2....
[deleted] 7y ago
How masculine is Islam dude? Its a cult about a desert roaming goat fucker, who was better at fucking goats than any other goat fucker so they made him king of the desert. He used his status as a king to upgrade feom fucking goats to fucking kids. The region has been completely void of productivity, science, military success, humanitarian values or anything else. How masculine is that?
AllahHatesFags 7y ago
They are taking over Europe because the cucked Europeans are LETTING it happen. In the past, this many Muslims entering your lands would have been called an invasion and people like Dracula would have to put them all on stakes. Nowadays, they are invited in, given free shit, and any European who has a problem with it is called a bigot or a racist.
Alathon 7y ago
Your criticisms of Islam are accurate. Unfortunately, Islam is in fact more masculine than the leftist west in one critical particular, they kill their enemies and take what they want. Right now, the west coasts on the efforts and sacrifice of minority praetorian class and a tech lead our ancestors ten generations back established. In our representative democracies, such a class has limited capacity to make policy, and can easily be sold out by feminist politicians and voters who are too childish and irresponsible to understand that the long term consequences of their 'humanitarian' decisions today will be their own disenfranchisement.
The pedo-prophets whole life was a parable of how to conquer. Soft words and coexistence when he had few followers, violence and coercion when he had many, ruthless massacre to seal the deal when he had superiority. Western men ask "but, dear, I know it seems extreme, but, but, um..." while Muslims build their power. If permitted numerical superiority, they will not ask.
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A lot more than the metrosexual West.
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Putins_Orange_Cock 7y ago
The Trump presidency is the death rattle of the southern strategy. There’s nothing for him to succeed at.
BullshittingNonsense 7y ago
Yeah, I think in a bubble, you can feel the death throes of feminism because that's what you're hearing, but there are a significant amount of feminists out there. Some girl at my work said that she always wanted to be a single mother. I think she was raised by a single mom. So was I and I absolutely love my mom, but I would still much rather have an intact family.
RedPilledRoaster 7y ago
Even in the Silicon Valley where I live things are getting a little better. Feminists are now joked at and mocked more often and the whole movement is being revealed as the bullshit it is. It’s subtle but it’s there.
SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 7y ago
I'm not sure if your anecdotal evidence is enough to call a trend reversal. It's as bad as ever on my end. Women I didn't know were feminists are becoming more vocal. Pretty tough to assess as a whole. I'd say major publications are the best for gauging that and they seem worse than ever.
RedPilledRoaster 7y ago
Well, all I can say is the situation seems just a bit better than before. A turnaround may be reaching but the future will tell.
wanderer779 7y ago
This may get downvoted but what do you want elites to do? If you let people breed as much as they want they will do so until you end up with wars and famines. As sad as it is this might be the best we can hope for unless we fund more habitable planets.
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wanderer779 7y ago
You are right, what am I thinking? There's no principle that says a population of animals can't grow forever in a finite habitat. I must have been drunk or something. My apologies, carry on.
BluepillProfessor 7y ago
They are targeting WHITE PEOPLE not to breed. Other races are free to overbreed their habitat and head North. Other races are encouraged to reproduce. White People have been targeted for extermination by these people and no, I am not kidding. You can see it in their rhetoric- white privilege etc but it really shows in their actions.
ANYTHING that helps the West or white people is bad. ANYTHING that harms the West or white people is good.
wanderer779 7y ago
I'm for the travel ban. I'm just saying that the idea of women of ANY race having 6 kids ad infinitum had to come to an end one way or another.
Just because we let muslims in doesn't mean we can't brainwash their women too. It wouldn't surprise me if these muslims may find out they've bitten off more than they can chew and end up having trouble keeping their women traditional. The progressive message is everywhere. While the men are at work the women are at home gobbling it up. Kids too. This already happened to christains who presumably had pretty strong convictions about their faith.
And even if muslim culture does take over, they will eventually find themselves up against the same thing.
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They call that 'honor killing'
BluepillProfessor 7y ago
Hopefully those magical freedom chemicals in the water will be absorbed by all these new Americans.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
^ Let's stop the problem at this point. Don't let the cancer in. When you get cancer you need to cut it out. Or treat it with radiation. Just saying.
Taipanshimshon 7y ago
all those things damage the body. And for good reason.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
The elites seem perfectly content to let the Morlocks breed and demand that they be let in to first world countries like locusts....
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+1 for Morlock reference.
Also good to remember Morlocks eat Eloi when given the chance.
wanderer779 7y ago
again though, what would you have them do? I'm fine with not letting them in, but once they are in, are you willing to enforce a 1 or 2 child policy?
It's easy to point out problems, but what are the solutions?
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
A. Pack them up and ship them back home to the 7th Century.
B. Build a Big, Beautiful Wall.
The retard Left longs to be hammered in the ass by Sand People and watch their children be raped while they say nothing because it's "payback" for colonialism.
I want to be clear on this point: I don't believe that Western Culture is superior to Islamic culture. I believe that Western Culture is VASTLY superior to Islamic culture.
Pack them up and ship them home.
I corrected your misapprehension about the "elites" and not needed too many people. We could do with a lot less people from the Dirt World, but nobody can say that without being "RAYYYYYCISSSST!!!" But the facts are what the facts are.
wanderer779 7y ago
I'm fine with the wall and travel ban. I'm just talking about the sheer number of people. Regardless of race/creed, there's got to be a limit. If we aren't proactive it mother nature will solve it for us and she can be a bit of a bitch.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
The problem is NOT that white people are breeding too much.
wanderer779 7y ago
Not now but what about before feminism?
Lets say we get the wall and a permanent travel ban from the middle east. Do you want a baby boom for white people in the u.s.? How many white folks do you want? 500 mil? A billion? At some point enough is enough.
Edit: Baby not ban.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Again, the present difficulty in population is not that there are too many white people, nor that white people are breeding at unsustainable rates...so why are you going on about it? It's like being on the 3rd floor of a house that is fully on fire and you're complaining that you stubbed your toe...or MIGHT stub your toe in the future. We have other, bigger problems.
wanderer779 7y ago
I'm not going on about it - my original comment had nothing to do with race or the Kalergi plan or any of that.
SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 7y ago
It appears you are being racist based on your comments in this thread.
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VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
So fun fact:
People who call me "racist" IRL: liberal white males.
People who NEVER call me "racist" IRL: people of color.
I suspect that's because people of color understand what actual racism is.
With respect to the ongoing Muslim problem, first, if I was anything, I'd be a bigot, not a racist, however, insofar as we have seen the direct consequences of Merkel's retarded "But muh FEEEELZ!!!" migrant policy, and the EU's guilt-based policy on importing Muslims from the 7th Century. From the Cannes truck attack to the Oslo truck attack to the Berlin Christmas Market attack, to the Cologne New Year's Eve attacks, to the London Bridge attack, to the murder of the French priest in Normandy, to Islamic grooming gangs in the UK, to the Charlie Hedbo attack, to the Paris theater attack, to the Istanbul Airport Attack (hint: if you see dudes wearing winter coats in July, GTFO, because, well, they might be concealing AKs underneath.)
I could go on, of course. But we are deep into the Upside Down when I simply point out that letting in a bunch of folks whose views and culture are diametrically opposed to Western values - you know, quaint ideas like free speech, secular democracy, equality under the law - and then having far too many of them act out violently in precisely ways that could have been anticipated, and out of all of this we learn that I am somehow the bad guy for telling the truth.
So the problem is that that I am a racist, the problem is that, to the radical Left, which presently controls the cultural narrative, I am a Thought Criminal, because anyone who doesn't support the radical Left's agenda is a RACIST/BIGOT/NAZI/LITERALLY HITLER or whatever. That can put one in the position of being a liberal who believes in free speech (I am the latter, but not the former) and being labeled as some sort of crypto-fascist or whatever. So yeah, we're living in a fucked up time.
AnAbsoluteSith 7y ago
Person of colour here, you're not racist. People just love to blur the lines on these issues to make it appear as such.
kunfayakun 7y ago
Non-white guy here, you're a racist. Virtually every non-white person I know would agree. Stop deluding yourself.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
This just in: I don't give a shit.
Muslim grooming gangs rape thousands of British girls over a decade and a half, we see repeated acts of terrorism from Islamic fucktards across Europe and now the US...and somehow I'm the bad guy.
Yeah, not buying it.
kunfayakun 7y ago
If you didn't give a shit, then why did you claim that non-white people don't call you racist in the first place? Pathetic attempt at backpedalling. You're not a bad guy man, stop being so emotional. It's just your ideas are trash because they cause harm to innocent muslims and other groups. If you care about rape victims so much, why not reserve your hatred for rapists in particular instead of muslims in general? You realise that muslims can be rape victims too, yes? And the vast majority of victims of terrorism are muslims, as well as the people actually combatting terrorism on the ground.
SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 7y ago
You make it sound like all Muslims are extremists. Closing our borders to several entire countries is a simple solution, but an extreme one. How knowledgeable are you on the vetting process for people from those countries to come to the United States? It's very thorough. If you can look at it objectively, does it not seem radical to close our boarders to 7 countries due to a small group of people? Then again I don't know how many extremists there are, but I'd guess it's less than 0.0001% of the people you're trying to keep out.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
No, you are inferring that because it's easier than confronting uncomfortable truths.
So what? It would also be an effective one.
And yet even in the United States we are starting to see the same style Islamic attacks presently plaguing Europe.
They never used to have Somalis in St. Cloud, Minnesota. You know what else they didn't used to have? Stabbings at the mall. Entirely preventable through sensible immigration policy.
And what about our buddy Omar Matteen who shot up the gay nightclub in Orlando? Was it the NRA that taught him to hate? Hint: when you interrupt your shooting spree to call 911 and "pledge allegiance to ISIS" the problem is pretty clear.
I'm sure that's great comfort to the the parents of 11 y.o. Ebba Akerlund - she was run down by Islamic terrorist Rakhmat Akilov in the Oslo truck attack - that "not all Muslims are extremists." This photo shows young Ebba after her fatal encounter with Islam: WARNING - Graphic Image. This was Saffie Rose Rousso, before her encounter with Salman Ramadan Abedi outside of the Ariana Grande concert. But hey not ALL Muslims are extremists. So there's that.
Is this the future that you want for the West? Children being murdered on the altar of the great Multi-Culti LIE?
What obligation are we under to let ANY of them in? Why?
How many citizens have to die each year at the hands of Islamic migrants/immigrants/whatevers before it's a problem for you? How high do we have to stack the bodies before you figure out what the problem is?
Do you want the future to look like this?
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GreenPiller 7y ago
What more damage can feminism do? Society seems very backwards already.
kunfayakun 7y ago
Sheltered rich white guy probably living in one of the richest countries in the world thinks society is backwards. Pathetic. Spend a year in Pakistan or something, you might learn a valuable lesson.
GreenPiller 7y ago
I'm not sheltered, rich, white, or American. Making a lot of assumptions here Mr. Ahmed.
kunfayakun 7y ago
Rich and sheltered seems likely considering that you feel so threatened by feminism as opposed to the more serious issues that people around the world face. White and American was a fair guess considering Reddit's demographics. And I appreciated being referred to as Ahmed, it's an excellent name.
GreenPiller 7y ago
I'm far from any of those things, I'm actually the opposite of white, rich and sheltered unfortunately. Also, I supported feminism when I was young because my mother was abused by my father, unfortunately feminism has turned into pure cancer. False accusations, abuse of power, misandy, etc. Just because there are other issues around the world doesn't mean I'm going to ignore this one, innocent men keep falling and I won't turn my back on them.
kunfayakun 7y ago
False accusations are a drop in the water compared to unreported rapes. Abuse of power is an issue when it comes to the economic and political elite, and it is not generally feminist in nature.
'Rich' is a relative term, but I can safely say that someone facing serious poverty ought to realise that it is not feminism creating that poverty.
GreenPiller 7y ago
You are right, unfortunately all of us here aren't the elite. We are just regular guys in a society where even giving a woman a tap on the shoulder is considered sexual misconduct, don't try to bury this problem with other problems.
kunfayakun 7y ago
Tapping a woman on the shoulder is considered sexual misconduct in what universe? Step out of your bubble man.
And you misunderstood me, what I was saying was that if you're worried about 'abuse of power', you should be concerned about the elite in your country abusing their power.
GreenPiller 7y ago
Look at the ridiculous Ben Affleck case, you are white knighting at this point, we are talking about cancerous feminism here and you are randomly talking about other world problems to defend your point without giving any good arguments besides "there are other problems in the world" One problem doesn't nulify the other. Feminism is still cancer.
vengefully_yours 7y ago
Uh just wait. If you don't want to wait you can read. What to read? Oh something about the history of Rome. Pay particular attention to when they started letting girls decide things and gave them a voice that was taken seriously.
It can get much worse. But lately I've seen a change, what used to be a bunch of manginas uttering shit like happy wife happy life has become men starting to grab the reigns and turn the franchise around. Men are tired of being the villain, always guilty, the evil oppressor, and blamed for everything that goes wrong. It's grass roots right now, but it's building.
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Yea there’s backwards fucked up shit happening to men all the time. Now can it get worse you ask? Well just imagine this shit becoming even more commonplace.
Remember that sperm donor in Kansas who was ordered to pay child support for the kid who was birthed with his sperm?
Now fortunately that was just 1 case that happened a few years ago and hasn’t been repeated since. Imagine shit like that becoming the norm
Reformed65 7y ago
West collapses, East rises.
Auvergnat 7y ago
The normalization of prostitution.
Every girl will accept money for sex, and men will be expected to turn a blind eye on this and wife them up anyway.
I fully expect a future in which "polyamory" extends to prostitution. Aka, your wife will be fucking others for money as a side-gig (maybe even as a full-time gig) and you will be shamed into compliance because "it's her right to do as she pleases with her body, and you're insecure for having a problem with it AND a monster for not being supportive of women's rights".
Oh and the normalization of cuckoldry.
In the future, you will not be able to expect your kid to be yours. She might sex her husband so he stays around and keep providing resources and support, but when time will come to have a baby, she will have full choice in who gets to impregnate her. There might be businesses offering prime genetic stock to be inseminated "naturally" (thinking a tinder-like app where women get to select their stallion for the night) or artificially (thinking stocks of sperm from Leo Di Caprio, Henry Cavill, or whoever is a super star when this world happens).
AllahHatesFags 7y ago
I doubt that will even be common; go look at the Deadbedrooms sub and you will see countless stories of wives not putting out because "they have no interest in sex" (with the husband, they will still do anal for Chad) and they actually get offended at the idea that their husband feels entitled to sex in his marriage.
AlphaGrad 7y ago
A prostitute is the most honest woman you'll ever meet. But if all women take the career of prostitution, the truth would surely be marginalized.
lolypuppy 7y ago
Why would a man accept that?
I get the point that we see more men concerned with the future of their culture, while whole countries are having their population replaced. However, these women are worth nothing. A man could have more pleasure, spend less money and have less headache with a hooker than with a "wife who won't have his children and who have sex with other men".
Mithra9009 7y ago
That's a very interesting prediction. It lines up quite well with what I've seen others write on the return of feudalism. This whole thing about people being able to work their way up the social ladder is really just a glitch in the normality of the class divide between the rulers/feudal lords and the ruled/peasants. Slowly but surely, people's individual freedoms will be worn down. It won't be rapid. It'll be a slow, gradual erosion. Your work hours will get longer and you'll just accept it. Your wages will stagnate and you'll just accept it. The time for leisurely activities will deplete and you'll just accept it. The variety in activities for leisure will deplete and you'll just accept it. Every day just gets worse and worse and you'll just keep accepting it.
The normalisation of prostitution is in my eyes is an attempt to normalise the absence of exclusivity. It is a direct attack on the notion of private property by attacking the property men wish to privatise most. Truly, those in power wish to reduce all men into unthinking, obedient drones.
max_peenor 7y ago
It's not a prediction. It's already common place in some cultures around the world. It's a natural consequence of the decay of social order and structure. Women will use their pussies for what their pussies do best--gather resources. Without consequences and shame, there is no reason to not to be open about it. In fact, being open about it increased opportunities.
Auvergnat 7y ago
Marriage and monogamy was established to reduce the males to obedient drones by ensuring a steady supply of sex and the insurance of genetic legacy to each male (or, with an evolutionary perspective, those societies that establish marriage and monogamy thrived more than others because its population was obedient and hard-working).
The lack of sex and insurance of genetic legacy make for unstable societies. This is not in the interest of a society and those in its power.
You don't have to see the hand of the elites where you can see more evidently the hand of sexual strategies. The normalization of prostitution is not the doing of the elites. It's the doing of women as a whole who manage to manipulate their weak men as a whole (made soft by a comfortable life) into allowing them to have their cake and eat it too.
Mithra9009 7y ago
It is when the only people in your society are a people that are not concerned with genetic legacy nor sex since they're primarily concerned with staying alive. With the coming of automation, it won't be necessary for the rulers to be so kind to those they rule. The first step however is taking your guns away. Everything comes down to violence. If your capacity for violence is neutered, you have no power and cannot instigate any kind of change. Not only that but it's nigh impossible for any police force to police a society filled with armed people willing to use those arms. The masses outnumber the police force so they must be neutered first.
There's also social engineering to consider as well. Feminism's destabilisation of the nuclear family combined with liberalism's open border advocation means that the masses are being demographically switched for low-IQ third worlders, smart enough to understand instructions and work but not so smart as to be a threat meanwhile high-IQ people generally fall for the conditioning and take a more individualised stance, opting for private hobbies over procreation. Are you familiar with the Rockefeller quote: "I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers"? Are you aware of how someone funded by the Rockefellers supported the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan? It can all be very stable.
I see both. Women took the bait but the elites set it.
Who do you think controls all of the media outlets that push these ideas?
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Nah, there's not enough time for 'slow, gradual erosion'. Most current jobs are going to disappear over the next twenty years, and that will lead to massive social changes.
And that includes prostitution, when any beta who still has money will be able to spend it on an 18-year-old Japanese cat-girl robot who adores him, instead of a hooker.
The future is going to get very weird, very fast.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Bingo
The most sickening part is at 1:33 when the little junior salaryman says "You know, somebody's at home for me." <vomit>
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Wow, that guy must weigh fifty pounds if he's an ounce.
iplayhearts 7y ago
I logged in to complement your writing. It's hilarious. I have a degree in Creative Writing. Quality stuff bro.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Thanks for the props. If you haven't seen The Before Time…A TRP “Origin” Story, I think you will like it. It's my "high water" mark for gonzo storytelling on TRP. At least I think so.
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My wifes' friend is a cunt.
An absolute cunt of a woman.
She's 34. Fat, redhead, overeducated to the point where working at the level of her degree causes so much stress that she quits within 6 months to return to her "back-up" profession. Grew up an entitled only child with overprotective helicopter parents. Wears spandex tights. REaLLy shouldn't wear spandex anything.
We've known her ten years. The only boyfriend she's had in that time I saw at a BDSM dungeon meet - without her.
She's depressed, rude, judgemental.
Guess what she decided would cure all? A crotchfruit.
Since she's incapable of maintaining a relationship long enough to receive sperm from a decent man in the original manner, she's been going and getting catheter placed sperm from unknown randos who get paid to jerk off into cups at sperm banks... you know, the creme de la creme of society.(pun intended). 3 times now. 3 fails.
Which of course has driven her deeper into depression and even more desperate for a baby to fix it all.
She even asked my wife about me becoming the father... "Fuck no!"
That's the state of your modern educated postwall single woman... Fat, entitled, broken, mean, depressed bitch who has no societal skills yet thinks that raising a child in those conditions will be the panacea for all her problems.
Poor kid.
BrownGummyBear 7y ago
Why don't these post wall baby crazy bitches don't just adopt children for fucks sake...
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I actually asked her that...
She believes her DNA is so superior that she want to "pass it on" so fuckprize has the same advantages as she did.....
Which is to only want a Chad, and not settle for anyone else, but a Chad wouldn't even consider fucking...let alone having a baby with said cunt.
Using unrealistic high standards to justify scarcity.
"The lambo dealer stopped answering my texts when he realized I don't have the money, but regular cars bore me. I want a Ferrari for the price of a civic."
[deleted] 7y ago
haha, what did your wife say to the request? Was she asking to fuck you or just sperm donation?
[deleted] 7y ago
We laughed. I think she just wanted the sperm...
I've been snipped for ten years.
No way I'd put my dick in that pile of rotting garbage.
I've been vehemently childfree my entire life.
This cunt is the exact flavor of crazy that'd put me on the paperwork and go for support when her life got tough.
It's no secret to wife I think friend is insane and bent on fucking up two lives.
ChadThundercockII 7y ago
I would, for a decent amount of money. srs
thegodfather76 7y ago
What makes a feminist? Can someone explicitly explain what makes a feminist? In today's society, most of women and daughters are raised with certain mindset and privilege, I would like to know when I am dealing with a feminist and what to look out for. Also what is a RP approved good woman worthy of LTR?
iluvuki44 7y ago
Feminist in today means a woman that;
-believes that men should die
-all men are inherently abusive against women
thegodfather76 7y ago
That's all that makes a feminist?
redpillbanana 7y ago
I tried to have sympathy, I really did.
Then I remembered how much these women cared about my dating struggles in my youth. And now I care the same amount about their struggles in their older years.
She's not completely desperate yet. There are millions of guys out there who would be more than willing to marry her and yet she is resorting to using a sperm donor because none of these men meet her standards. She'd rather be a single mother than date a tradesman without a college degree.
sadomasochrist 7y ago
You're swinging too hard here. Tradesmen are attractive for a lot of women (in fact I'd argue they are most obtainable fantasy model). But the taller ones have plenty of attention from younger women. And the pitch of a basically 40 year old woman to "settle down with" is idiotic.
The pitch of the 40 year old woman having kids just doesn't make any damn sense. There are lots of 30 year old women to compete with.
The quality of men willing to impregnate a 40 year old woman is very poor. I mean really, think about it. It doesn't really have to do with "standards."
I mean I can sympathise with her to be honest. Everyone in her world told her she could wait and that there's nothing wrong with having children later in life. Everyone believed their own bullshit.
She has a right to be angry, it's no different than the bullshit blue pill lies sold to men, that women are honor bound etc Then you find out that basically women live in a bubble until they're 30, and the bubble fully pops by 40.
It's no different than the guy who did "everything right" and did right by his wife only to realize none of that shit really mattered, and the only thing that mattered was tingles uber alles.
It must be equally horrific to realize the only thing that really mattered for her was her youth, and everything else was superfluous.
redpillbanana 7y ago
Sexually attractive and good for a roll in the hay, sure. Marriage material? Most college-educated women wouldn't consider marrying a tradesman due to hypergamy. Not saying it's right, but that's the way it is.
You underestimate how many thirsty men there are out there and how strong the narrative is of "marry women who are age-appropriate". Look at Prince Harry. Meghan Markle is going to be almost 37 when he marries her. She's 3 years older than him. The dude is royalty FFS.
The thirst is real especially in first-world countries where men generally outnumber women until they get towards retirement age and the men start dying off.
mydogisfabulous 7y ago
I don't get it. Meghan Markles is hot as fuck, what's wrong with Prince Harry marrying her?
seaguy87 7y ago
She's a divorcee who (in all likelihood) married her former husband to get a leg up in her career. And Harry doesn't want a prenup, being willing to risk his 30 million pound fortune. Not to mention she'll be 37 when they get married. I mean, sure, marry for love or whatever. But you're telling in me Harry couldn't find a better deal in the entire Commonwealth? Get the fuck outta here.
Banincoming 7y ago
Their 1 kid is going to be royally fucked up.
uniquecommonguy 7y ago
I was sympathetic at first too, and then I remembered how many women were complete bitches to me from ages 13 to ~26. Now I'm single, spin plates, live alone, and I've never been happier.
Thank you ladies for being such bitches to me when you were younger. If it wasn't for your constant torment, I might have actually gotten married to one of you emotional roller coasters.
marplaneit 7y ago
This is the state of my 4 older woman cousin, one late 20's , another early 30's and the other mid 30's. All professional, all singles, none of them is ugly or fat, but they are fucking desperate. Oh, you see "marplaneit" but guys in their 30 don't man up and settle down, they just want to date around, and party like they are 22 again. That's what they tell me at christmas every year. They all thought they could slut it up during their 20's, build a professional career, and then at 28-30, they were going to meet tall, muscular, hot as fuck, succesful doctor, lawyer, bussinesman, etc and he was going to fall totally for her a 30 year old average girl with baggage.
MGTOWManofMystery 7y ago
You dodged a bullet! Or many bullets.
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tall_bacon 7y ago
No. I’m trying to tell you, that when you’re ready...
you won’t have to.
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Diogenes-- 7y ago
God, that was great. Unlike you I don't even remotely attempt to avoid Schadenfreude. Stuff like this is porn for me.
If she conceives - a 4% chance from IVF, I read somewhere - and it's a boy (so, 2%), does she honestly think the man he grows to be will be shaped by his genes and not her upbringing? I mean he might resemble his father physically, but I can tell you all about the psychology of a man who was raised by a single feminist mother.
Abused, sexually and otherwise, as a young child. Taught to hate his father and all men, including the man he will be at 18+. Taught to hate himself. Taught hate, anger, bitterness, rage, envy, outrage and offense instead of happiness. Taught zero life skills. Used daily as an emotional tampon & substitute boyfriend - and unlike a grown man, a young boy can't extract himself from that situation.
There's a fork in the path you can take from here. You can continue along the self-loathing route. Along there you find every bluepill mangina, you find "YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE!!!", and you also get your MTF trans people that way - they're trying to escape their self-loathing, which is based on their maleness, by becoming not-male.
Or you can go the redpill route and be everything your mother hates, lol. Here's hoping she doesn't conceive, more for the sake of the child she would ruin than for the Schadenfreude. If she does conceive a boy let's hope he follows in Neo's footsteps.
ScribbleTwitch 7y ago
Damn. This hit close to home.
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The sequel when she is 60, 17 million cats, how many can I fit in my house
bvg68 7y ago
Thanks OP, your analysis is hilarious.
Treanwreck 7y ago
That cyclist nearly ruined Eli's life and he had no idea
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squarehead93 7y ago
No doubt there are some short guys with serious game who do just fine, but they had to work for it in a way tall folks simply don't have to do. No, the world isn't fair, but there's no denying certain people have to put in a lot more effort to get the same results.
IRL, being short isn't the death sentence some make it out to be. But the commenter in question was talking about IVF/sperm donors. And sperm banks/women being very selective in that regard is well documented. http://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/articles/9-reasons-your-sperm-isnt-good-enough-to-donate-w209421
Popeman79 7y ago
u/5pecial never said that this applies to him or that he can't get girls because he's short. He's making a general point. And, btw, you're right too, your points are valid as general advice.
I don't get why you're angry though.
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PeggedByOwlette 7y ago
I'm 5'11 with a rock hard six pack and I needed to read this.
Thanks man.
cirrusice 7y ago
5'11 and you're insecure? Lmao wtf is wrong with you?
PeggedByOwlette 7y ago
No, It means your hight has nothing to do with it. Did you read what I responded to?
cirrusice 7y ago
Yeah but I got it wrong I guess. Np
Mr-Ed209 7y ago
It's important to emphasise the evolutionary perspective over the belief a 'societal programme'. It's easy to forget but we are living in strange times in regards to having lifestyles which are artificially influenced against human nature.
The contraceptive pill was only produced 57 years ago. Which means this current generation is among the first to actually experience it's existence as 'normality'. Womens earning potential has also risen due to the nature of more menial and less labour intensive jobs. The knock on effect of relationships is what we are currently experiencing.
It's no wonder this generations grandparents would look on in shock and awe at the behaviour of men and women in this current climates dating scene. Such is the nature of the beast.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
It can be thought of as "Tinder, 1960s version".
TheAC997 7y ago
How good of an upbringing is that kid going to have?
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terrible... single mothers are poverty and crime factories. she's so solipsistic she doesn't ever consider the impact it'd have on the father or the child's life... only hers.
anyone who abandons a family out of anything other than infidelity or abuse, especially these women who divorce over boredom, is a terrible fucking parent. any woman who willfully has a child on her own, is going to be a terrible fucking parent.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
This is why I never donated sperm. I could not live with the possibility of sentencing a child, particularly a son, to being raised by some harridan career chick. /shudder.
fromthecrypt8 7y ago
Good summary of the post-wall-amusement women provide.
bobaisdope 7y ago
I'm sorry but could you explain to me what's the fun part of Tatar? I know this is an ethnicity of Russians but have no clue beyond that fact. Thanks!
Solon64 7y ago
Basically mongrel mongols.
Culturally they're very aggressive. They've been fighting Russians ever since Genghis Khan and his boys left. From what I've read they put in some work during the Napoleonic era as Cossacks, and I believe there were a few units of them fighting for the Soviet Union too.
Russia has never really accepted them as a culture. They aren't Slavs, basically. There's no good analogy for the United States. If I wanted to try that analogy, the closest I could get would be like a bunch of inbred Cajuns in Louisiana forming "militias" and unleashing terror attacks on Northerners for "oppressing them and their right to hate/kill whoever they want." Sort of like the KKK, but along cultural lines rather than racial ones, although obviously Tatars are not even racially the same as Russians either.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Simple Explanation: Russians look down on Tatars.
Banincoming 7y ago
Substandard Mongols who attacked the Russians for 1000 years.
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Blackhawk2479 7y ago
Chance of that is slim to none buddy - women don’t do consequences, that’s why they do pretty much anything they can to avoid making important decisions.
[deleted] 7y ago
this risk taking gene is only held by alpha males. betas don't have it. women don't have it. that's why all risk based jobs and high risk sports are dominated by men.
Hillarysdilddo_2016 7y ago
This is exactly why I don't read the New York Times. It's straight up cringe inducing garbage.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
I had one of those long international fights, and I tend to board early in the process. The only thing I could read while I was waiting was NYT.
BobLordOfTheCows 7y ago
Reading obituaries would have probably been more meaningful.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
It was the international edition; obits weren't an option.
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RedPillFreedom 7y ago
That's exactly how I got through the sidebar. Downloaded the PDF & used TTS.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
On flights, I prefer to board, eat, watch a movie during the meal service, and then sack out for 4-6 hours (which is all I need). I don't bother to bring my ipad, usually - it's just more shit to carry. I tend to board early to stake out overhead space (I only carry-on) and the entertainment system isn't always on, nor is there always wifi, hence, I read the NYT while everyone else boarded.
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VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
I need to burn a half hour, and where the plane was situated there was no mobile service or wifi to graze the internet. I also dislike reading books on my phone. So basically I killed 30 minutes reading the Times.
haroldpeters 7y ago
I just do push ups in the isle until the plane lands. By the time we land all the hostesess can see how buff I am and give me bjs as I exit the plane. /sarc
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PeggedByOwlette 7y ago
Your rant gave me a hardon. I'm so confused now.
--Edog-- 7y ago
"This isn't the ending that I wanted" - what about the ending that Eli wanted? Did he know that you were trying to have his child? (Side note: if i had it all to do over again, I would get snipped and bang desperate women in their 30's)
NarcKammerjaeger 7y ago
I've just thought about the fact that where feminism is high testosterone is low. Who was there first - the chicken or the egg?
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Strong men make for easy times.
Easy times make weak men.
Weak men make for difficult times.
Difficult times make strong men.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
My view from 10,000 feet is that she was probably taught from an early age what a special snowflake she was but nobody bothered to fill her in about the reality of biology. Mother Nature is an uppercase G, and she doesn't give a shit about you putting things off because you're 'not ready'.
The problem for high-achieving women is that they crush it in HS, uni, grad school and sometimes work, and they make it to the top of the mountain and discover that putting in the kind of hours that men put in fucking SUCKS and then they drop out of it (if they're smart). I recall a few years ago some ivy league educated chick wrote a book about how she put in a lot of long hours and shit, while other women married men, learned to suck dick the way their husbands liked and not be too opinionated and wound up having way more free time and could chill out and get hot stone massages or whatever, and there for who was really smarter?
Now, I am certainly vulnerable to this criticism: "But Uncle Vasya, you're 50 and don't have kids, what about you?" however the difference is I'm a man, and I made myself exceptional in a couple of ways, and thus I'm tapping 2x22 y.o., a 21 year old, a 19 y.o. and a 25 year old on the regular. IOW, 5 of the most fertile things on the planet. My options have only increased over time, although certainly I will crest at some point, but so long as there are young women who dig older men, I'm in the game. Spinster Literary Hags? No so much.
IwannaFocus 7y ago
Women are flowers that bloom to beauty at an early age. But consequently they wither at an early stage too (in comparison to men).
Men? I'd like to look at us as caterpillars trying to achieve metamorphosis (being alpha). Once we get wings, the choices between flowers are plenty. But wings seldom come at an early age.
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RedDespair 7y ago
Makes total sense.
Nature has made women lose fertility early so they have time to raise their own offspring.
Men's fertility doesn't change much. I am closing in to my 40's and it's ridiculous. Interest comes from 20's till late 30's. In fact there are a lot more 20's looking at me now than 20 years ago, it's ridiculous.
My questions are:
"Where the fuck were you 20 years ago when I would fuck anything?"
and
"Why choose a woman my age when they are not as physically attractive, (the smell different too) and not as mentally evolved as a man my age?
7Tomus 7y ago
Thing to keep in mind is that even though we dont have the same biological wall as women have, you should not waste time either. When your child is born in your 30s you will be in your 50s when it becomes 20 year old. Prefferably you want to be still physically fit by that time so you can spend some quality time together.
Andrew54321 7y ago
Which is why you LIFT your entire life.
macaroon18 7y ago
Our fertility does change a fair bit as we age, I just dont think we care as much as females
hawkeaglejesus 7y ago
Perhaps you meant sex drive? Fertility doesn't change much for men. Mick Jagger had a baby at 73. Trump had his last son at 60.
macaroon18 7y ago
Yes but sperm quality reduces and you have less chance of impregnating. Males have a biological clock its just not as extreme as females. Also the older you conceive as a male the higher rate of birth 'defects' such as autism etc...
--____notfunny____-- 7y ago
Uncle Vasya, do you want to have little Vasyitchkis ?
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
I am more or less indifferent at this point, although of the 5 women I mentioned, 19 & 21 want to have my babies, and both 22 y.o. do also to a bit of a lesser degree. 25 would rather put things off, but given my options, I don't particularly care.
--____notfunny____-- 7y ago
Alright, thanks for the reply, honestly, I think you'd be an awesome father as you have been in a way for many of us, myself included, so thanks for that aswell, best regards.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Thanks. I try to help where I can. At this point, even if I knocked one of them up tomorrow, I'd be 70 when the kid was 20 - the first kid. So there's that. But anyway, as I approach geographic independence, maybe I will be more into it.
UncleWarwick 7y ago
My pops was 58 when I was born.
You’re not out of the running yet old man.
Docbear64 7y ago
The beautiful and unfortunate thing about women is how ingrained they can be to the moment . When you're the spark that gets them excited you can effectively become the sunshine that brightens their dark world of course the flip side is when they are truly unhappy or unhappy with you you can be the worst decision and human being they've ever met .
All of that flowery language amounts too an old woman who feels like she needs a sense of purpose, who now has to fight herself and her hamster to embrace any sense of sexuality or sensuality had a moment with a blue eyed sandy haired guitarist, To her Eli was a beacon of hope she could cling to as she free falls into despair and to Eli she was probably just a horny old broad who was worth fucking that night.
She bought into a narrative that told her that nobody else matters but herself and her goals and now finds herself trying to matter to somebody anybody else . Only humans would try to deny that a group of people whose bodies have been created/ evolved/ developed to have babies should hold off from having babies or maintain the responsibilities of having babies until it's virtually impossible.
xenigala 7y ago
Isn't that something TRP encourages for men? DGAF?
marlybarrow 7y ago
Men and women are different. Ergo, the advice given to men is different to that of women.
Docbear64 7y ago
Very true but Men and women aren't the same, Men weren't created with biological clocks and an internal need for having a child to take care of the way women were. The difference is that men have historically been the primary providers and protectors while women were the nurturers and the maintainers of the cultural fabric they established with men .
That is now lost so that we believe men and women should do all of the same things all the time and that women should outright ignore any societal ,biological, or internal desires to have children .
If you take nothing else away from this sub know that men and women ARE NOT the same . It will save you a lot of stress in the future.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
You misapply "DGAF" here. When TRP advise young men to "DGAF" it is done in terms of approaching and in terms of not being manipulated by people who want to impose their own bluepill delusion on them. The actual corollary would be if we told guys, "Just be yourself" because everything will be ok if they just keep obeying.
The problem with the author of the original piece has is not that she shouldn't have been free to pursue her interests, such as they were, but that she should have understood that putting off marriage and children, whether to ride the CC or to have a career or whatever, is not without consequences...consequences that she now knows all to well: inability to get pregnant easily, lack of access to quality male partners - certainly lesser quality than she likely could have gotten back when she was younger, more attractive and more fertile.
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hudsonclay 7y ago
Marriage and cohabitation ruins love. What annoys me most about the situations is that there seems to be a lack of self-hood or to that effect. I am a (passing trans girl) and my life is working towards my self-sufficiency, independence and authentic connection to my own life. A relationship for me is to share in one another, raise each other and be the support needed at the end of the day without sacrificing a sense of wilful pride towards oneself. We need to stop this cultural pandering that spoils people into versions of self that don’t work in every case I.e women being inherently desirable is moving on ( thank god, far too aggrandising), men as necessarily attractive due to some pathetic qualities of ulterior niceness. Human relations are changing which is inevitable but people need to sharpen up and own their own life but not whinge when other lives don’t complement that. We are already dead so the notion of an ego that needs supporting is beyond me. I’m basically already married to myself. And having kids make you tired and flabby I swear. Don drapers states my position very well in saying ‘you are born alone and you die alone and life just tries to dump a bunch of rules of top you to make you forget those facts ; but I NEVER forget’
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BluepillProfessor 7y ago
Not for the hapless Beta who is harvested like a living organ donor.
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[deleted] 7y ago
This effectively sums up why feminism is poison
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I'm in the process of looking into something like this for men (gestational surrogacy), but I'm much younger than her and interested in it for different reasons than she is.
_the_shape_ 7y ago
We've heard this one line before, and we continue to hear it today with respect to other retarded ideologies...
Most of us won't be alive in 100 years, but we might as well start giving future generations of men (and women) a head's up as to what they will be bombarded with once we're gone. Despite a preponderance of irrefutable evidence of feminism repeatedly failing society as a whole over the decades, causing widespread ruin and suffering on both sides of the aisle, even a non-betting man can fatten his pockets by putting a considerable amount down that feminism will continue it's scorched-Earth song and dance and insist on doubling-down on the havoc and destruction with this classic hamsterization:
"...but that wasn't real
socialismfeminism!"TL;DR: it's all men's fault (and always will be)
disposable_pants 7y ago
Eh, this is only feminist in the sense that it shares a bit of feminism's "you can have it all" theme, and that's a carrot dangled in front of both men and women. That's a problem with any non-traditional approach to life. It's no different from a guy thinking he can go out and get drunk a bunch in his 20s and wind up with a good career, happiness, and money at 30. Yeah, it's possible, but the odds are against it.
This is the female version of dudes waking up at 39 with a fat wife they despise and a day-to-day life that's just a beating. Sometimes the best-laid plans go to shit somewhere and you're left to make the best of it.
Fedor_Gavnyukov 7y ago
i didn't laugh, but i cringed when i read the article
Solon64 7y ago
I'm Polish by heritage and even I laughed/cringed at this. Tatars are the inbred scum of Eastern Europe/Asia Minor. Shit is really fucked up when a woman thinks a Mongol is a good catch. Poles may have been Catholic for a long time, sort of the last bastion of Western Europe against Eastern, and even we are like "damn, we wouldn't touch a Tatar with a ten foot pole unless that pole was a spear, pointy end faced firmly in their direction."
Fedor_Gavnyukov 7y ago
oh man, i love them polish kurwas! i actually speak ok polish, but i can't write it for shit.
Taipanshimshon 7y ago
made my morning. dirty people.
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daprospecta 7y ago
Whites use more welfare benefits than any other race combined. I also noticed you left out the huge opiate epidemic. Everybody has their shit to deal with whether you break it down by race or not.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
Taking the SNAP program ("food stamps") as an example, that's not actually true. Whites make up 40.2% of people in the program, blacks 25.7%, Hispanics 10.3%, Asians 2.1%, First Nations 1.2%, mixed race .7% and "race unknown" 12.8%
Of the 12.8%, I'm guessing there's a lot of Mystery Meat, but what is known is that <50% of folks in SNAP are white.
That said, whites are 60% of the population so their participation is far less than one would expect, demographically, while blacks are 13% of the population so their participation is double what it would be expected to be, demographically.
My point here is not to "run down" black folks, just to point out that there's more to just saying "But...WHITE PEOPLE!!!"
daprospecta 7y ago
If you read the OP, he calls out different races and minorities and their struggles but doesn't include the struggles of the group he belongs to. Self-reflection is most important IMO.
babalu32 7y ago
Of 29 million people are on welfare
39% white: 11,661,000
According to Wikipedia- US population: 313,544,041
White: 72.4%: 227,005,885
Math time!:
Whites: 11.661,000 / 227,005,885 * 100 = 5.13%
Blacks: 11,362,000 / 39,506,549 * 100 = 28.75%
That means the total percentage of all white people in america on welfare is: 5.13% - one in TWENTY
While the total percentage of all black people in america on welfare is: 28.75% - one in THREE
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daprospecta 7y ago
What I said is still correct and your own numbers prove it. Go back and read what wrote sir.
babalu32 7y ago
No it is not.
Federal tax comes to $4529.52 billion paid by whites, $528.30 billion paid by hispanics, and $485.67 billion paid by blacks
So 86% of all tax is paid by whites, 9% by blacks and 10% by hispanics. So the breakdown goes:
Whites: 72.4% - 86.4% = - 14.0 %
Blacks: 12.6% - 9.2% = + 3.4 %
Hispanics: 17.3% - 10.0% = + 7.3 %
Source
So the conclusion is that whites overpay a lot, are MASSIVE net tax PAYERS, while blacks and hispanics are net tax RECEIVERS.
And I did NOT even include the fact that proportionally more blacks/latinos are receivers of welfare than whites. I assumed that the tax benefits are spread equally across the board.
BrownGummyBear 7y ago
Are you really calling psychedelics "poison"? ???? the ignorance is strong with this one
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BrownGummyBear 7y ago
(1) "LliveScience: 'Magic Mushrooms' May Permanently Alter Personality"
THIS STUDY IS A FAILURE ALREADY. Also, the so called changes in personality are not even detrimental changes.
According to the study:
No shit, people having religious/transcendent/spiritual trips are going to change their appreciation to new experiences. I'm an atheist myself and although psychedelics didn't turn me religious they certainly made me a bit less cynical about the meaningless of life. I'm a bit less of a nihilist and much more of a hedonist now. THE HORROR!
(2) "How Magic Mushrooms Can Change your Brain" The article bases its claims from the study of the previous article I quoted. Nothing new was brought up here. As a matter of fact, if anything it describes psilocybin in a positive manner. For example:
I wonder if cocaine or meth could provide us with such wonderful drugs? ???? ????
(3) "5 Potentially Dangerous Psilocybin Effects"
Not a valid argument. Plenty of kids have died from drinking detergents that look like a yummy juice, should we now argue that detergents are bad because "think about the kids"? If you're gonna consume psilocybin mushrooms you better know how to properly ID them or just grow them yourself. Dumb asses doing dumb stuff doesn't make the drug bad.
Are you really going to take any advice from those crooks at NIDA? From the people who profit from keeping drugs illegal? Anyways, I'll still argue that all of the "negative physical effects" described by the "article" are nothing compared to the negative effects that ALCOHOL can have on your body. 0 people have died from ingesting psilocybin: some may have died for doing stupid shit while intoxicated, but the drug itself has never killed no one from over dosing (if you have a trip sitter to watch over you then your chances of hurting yourself are minimal). In the other hand it's totally possible to die from drinking too much alcohol. Death is miles worse than any of the bullshit "negative physical effects" described in your article.
Well, too bad your friend is an irresponsible moron. People who abuse coffee will become physically dependent on it, and they will experience withdrawals when they stop ingesting caffeine. People who drink soda every day will end up having shitty health and they will risk becoming diabetic.
When you consume psilocybin your tolerance to the substance will sky rocket. If you want to trip again after you dose, you will need to use 2-4 times the original amount of psilocybin to experience the same effects. If you want to trip a third time you will need to dose even more, it gets to the point it's not worth it tripping frequently. After tripping you will need to wait 7-10 days (at least) to re set your tolerance. Your friend is seriously dumb if he managed to abuse psilocybin.
So I back up what I said, you're quite obviously incredibly IGNORANT when it comes to drugs. Go educate yourself.
BrownGummyBear 7y ago
That sentence alone should have told me you are either a troll or some ignorant baby boomer spreading more reefer madness propaganda. So lame.
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BrownGummyBear 7y ago
NICE COMEBACK BRAH! Now counter argue the other reply I made about psilocybin or GTFO
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BrownGummyBear 7y ago
Reply tomorrow then (if you can actually find any intellectual way to counter argue what I wrote). I have a sense you haven't read much about the subject and just posted the first fear mongering articles you found, to then accompany such shitty articles with a "I knew a guy who got addicted on X drug, don't do drugs kids!"
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Oh my sides!
Turkey basting career shrikes basking in the glow of imaginary Chads who in real life couldn't stand their presence
JamzeNeu 7y ago
There is a part of me that empathises with them, but ,they chose the path ,driven by their artificially inflated ego ,to exert superiority over someone else for the sake of petty pleasure, so fuck it.
They deserve it.
also look at this bitch, selfishly choosing Chad's sperm and over our sweet Billy beta who is really nice guy and respecs wamen. huh, life is so unfair ;(
Blogginginvicecity 7y ago
Yup! And when she adds that her donor is a cold, laconic person, ay yai yai. Oh but he's tall, well educated, and is one of those "cyclists" like Lance Armstrong. But it's not selfish of her because she really cares about the lucrative yet 'noble' profession of his
UrsusG 7y ago
It's funny how she romanticizes his "hardy ancestors from the Steppe", while Russians (and other Eastern European peoples) still use "Tatar-Mongol" as a racial invective.
Especially the Russians, for whom fighting the Horde invasions for several hundred years is a major part of historic national identity.
cellphon 7y ago
With that said, Tatars related to the Mongols, which had ghengis khan, which by many accounts is one of the ultimate alphas this word has produced.
Popeman79 7y ago
Emm, the same way Macedonians were once related to Alexander the Great? Sure, but it makes no (rational) sense today
BluepillProfessor 7y ago
Not quite. Alexander didn't rape his way across the world. The Mongols not only raped their way across the world. They took sex slaves and harems. Millions and millions of people are directly related to Genghis Khan today.
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max_peenor 7y ago
I wonder if she bothered to get his name before letting him shove a couple fingers up her snatch. What a lovely creature.
TheBunk_TB 7y ago
What about a woman trying to get knocked up by a guy that had a vasectomy? Laugh worthy.
boo_radley_awesome 7y ago
Thank you for posting this. Reading this was a better way to start my morning instead of coffee!
Venny_1 7y ago
Of course not! She is craving the ending where she sirens a child out of wedlock, without consideration for the well being of the potential child in question, or what the potential father has to say. Then, in due time, she will be craving some single-mother sympathy/ victimhood from the circle of people around her. She will also crave some child support money from Eli, who didn't want to have anything to do with this to begin with.
So much good in that ending she wanted!
Cis_White_Harambe 7y ago
This is why men should marry women with strong Christian values and raise their daughters the same way. My wife is a stay at home mom and hates feminism and everything it stands for.
BluepillProfessor 7y ago
I think your thoughts and commentary would be better appreciated over on the Married Red Pill Reddit. Join us over there- but read the sidebar first brah.
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MRP got cucked by shitlord mods long ago. i got banned there for literally quoting TRP's sidebar. that sub has nothing to do with the red pill.
BluepillProfessor 7y ago
FYI two of our mods are also TRP mods. Did you challenge the ban with the mod panel?
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why bother? the cucked mod sent some shitlord message in the ban... no point in fighting that.
the MRP subreddit has nothing to do with TRP if they're going to ban people for citing the TRP sidebar.
Taipanshimshon 7y ago
I would guess you got banned for being a MGTOW
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nah, the mod got pissy, called me a child for citing the TRP sidebar and huffed off like a raging shitlord.
besides, i'm only partially mgtow. i've consistently spun 2-8 plates for the last 2 years now thanks to TRP. but most of the talk nowadays is in r-bumble or r-tinder... hell, my talk of TRP truths in r-bumble even got rollo to show up and someone gilded him. i also want kids, so that's something i have to reconcile.
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BluepillProfessor 7y ago
MRP is a panel, not an autocracy like TRP. Some of the mods are specifically there to ban people and ask questions later. How you react to the ban determines what we do next but easily 75% of calm, rational appeals overturn an initial ban.
Try it.
Rian_Stone 7y ago
I love these cases. 100% of the time, it's some obvious retard who forgot he yelled for the elimination of the white race, or some other retard shit.
He posts way too much for me to find what he did 8 months ago, and theres no note attached.
You are right, 99% of these are the mod giving a guy a 24 hour cool off to stop shitting up the sub. After which, the guy lashes out in modmail and they make it permanent.
This username doesn't pop up 7-9 months ago. I don't think what he said happened at all. I know when I get PM's on this I tell them to take it to modmail.
Either way. his comments make it pretty clear to me what happened.
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i called someone out for some beta bullshit, told him to read the TRP sidebar because that's not at all TRP.
that got enough cucked losers pissed (probably who i was talking to), some guy ranted about "this isn't TRP" or something like that and it was just instant ban. the comment the mod gave was simply to call me a whining child... didn't even say who it was.
Rian_Stone 7y ago
That's all it took for a meltdown?
My guess, people agreed with you, but you were tested to see if you held frame with a little prodding. Of course you just lashed out, and here we are.
I kind of remember this actually. The idiot lashing out at you was temp banned too. He also lashed out and was made permanent.
Most guys from the main sub get this when first coming over. It's a great filtering mechanism for the 88will88s and ultimate cards, who are useful men, and the 2nd wave MGTOW guys who aren't.
Surprised, after all this time you're still so emotional about not getting to talk on a small ass subreddit. There may be a lesson in here for ya.
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albus_scirocco 7y ago
This is quite possible the greatest wall of text in history. A toast to you, sir.
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CptFizz 7y ago
shill your YT garbage elsewhere