This is a short piece about topics we've talked to death here, but what makes it newsy is that 1. it's on Edge.org, which is like buzzfeed for smart people, and 2. Hackernews has it as a front page thread, with predictable commentary.
Seems you can talk about TRP themes so long as you don't use the word "hypergamy," or any of this subs jargon.
https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26747
Entire post below.
The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women
*Every year, more women than men become college-educated. The disparity is already prevalent across North America and Europe, and the trend is beginning to spread across the world more widely. At the University of Texas at Austin where I teach, the sex ratio is 54 percent women to 46 percent men. This imbalance may not seem large at first blush. But when you do the math it translates into a hefty 17 percent more women than men in the local mating pool. Speculations about reasons range widely. They include the gradual removal of gender discrimination barriers and women’s higher levels of conscientiousness (relative to men’s) that translate into better grades and superior college app qualifications. Whatever the causes turn out to be, the disparity is creating a dramatic and unintended mating crisis among educated women.
We must look deeply into our mating psychology to understand the far-reaching consequences of the sex ratio imbalance. Women and men both have evolved multiple mating strategies; some of each gender pursue casual hook-ups, some committed partnerships. Some alternate at different times of their lives, and some do both simultaneously. And although a few social scientists deny the data, research overwhelmingly shows that men harbor, on average, a greater desire for sexual partner variety. Men experience more frequent sexual thoughts per day, have more sexual fantasies involving multiple partners, and more readily sign up for online dating sites for the sole goal of casual sex. So, a surplus of women among educated groups caters precisely to this dimension of men’s sexual desires because the rarer gender is always better positioned to get what they want on the mating market. In places like large cities in China, with their surplus of men, women can better fulfill their desires while many men remain frustrated and mateless. Context matters. For every surplus of women in places like Manhattan, there exist pockets where men outnumber women, such as schools of engineering or the software companies of Silicon Valley. But when there are not enough men to go around, women predictably intensify their sexual competition. The rise of the hookup cultures on college campuses and online dating sites like Tinder, Adult Friend Finder, and Ashley Madison is no coincidence.
Gender differences in sexual psychology are only part of the problem. Additional elements of the mating mind exacerbate it. A key cause stems from the qualities women seek in committed mateships. Most women are unwilling to settle for men who are less educated, less intelligent, and less professionally successful than they are. The flip side is that men are less exacting on precisely these dimensions, choosing to prioritize, for better or worse, other evolved criteria such as youth and appearance. So the initial sex ratio imbalance among educated groups gets worse for high achieving women. They end up being forced to compete for the limited pool of educated men not just with their more numerous educated rivals, but also with less educated women whom men find desirable on other dimensions.
The depletion of educated men worsens when we add the impacts of age and divorce to the mating matrix. As men age, they desire women who are increasingly younger than they are. Intelligent, educated women may go for a less accomplished partner for a casual fling, but for a committed partner they typically want mates their own age or a few years older, and at least as educated and career-driven. Since education takes time, the sex ratio imbalance gets especially skewed among the highly educated—those who seek advanced degrees to become doctors, lawyers, or professors, or who climb the corporate ladder post-MBA. And because men are more likely than women to remarry following divorce and to marry women increasingly younger than they are—three years at first marriage, five at second, eight at third—the gender-biased mating ratio skews more sharply with increasing age.
Different women react in different ways to the mating crisis. Some use sexual tactics to ramp up their competition for men. They dress more provocatively, send more sexually explicit texts, consent to sex sooner, and hope that things turn into something more than a brief encounter. Some women opt out of the mating game by choice because they are unwilling to compromise their careers in the service of mating. Although some progress has been made, it is still true that women suffer disproportionately from compromises between career and family. And some women hold out for an ever-smaller pool of men who are single, educated, and emotionally stable, who are not sexual players, and who can engage their intellect, sense of humor, emotional complexities, and sexual passions for more than just a night.
The good news for those who succeed is that marriages among the educated tend to be more stable, freer of conflict, less plagued by infidelity, and less likely to end in divorce. Educated couples enjoy a higher standard of living as dual professional incomes catapult them to the more affluent tiers of the economic strata. They suffer less financial stress than their less educated counterparts. Assortative coupling on education level does have an unintended down side—it’s a major contributor to economic inequality in the larger society, widening the gap between the haves and have-nots. But for accomplished women who successfully traverse the waters of a mating pool unfairly stacked against them, mating triumph at the individual level typically takes precedence over loftier goals of reducing societal-level inequality when the two come into conflict.
What are the potential solutions to the mating pool shortage for educated women? Adjust their mate preferences? Expand the range of men they are willing to consider as mates? Mating psychology may not be that malleable. The same mating desires responsible for the skewed gender imbalance to begin with continue to create unfortunate obstacles to human happiness. As successful women overcome barriers in the workplace, they encounter new dilemmas in the mating market.*

VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
So women not getting EVERYTHING THEY WANT THE VERY SECOND THEY WANT IT is a "Crisis"?
Enter Uncle Vasya with "Uncle Vasya's Three Step Guide For Women Who Want To Get Married" To the rescue!
Step 1: If you are a bitch, FUCKING STOP IT. Men don't like it. The wife is the "emotional fireplace" of the home. Men who do well at home do better for the family outside the home. So that sarcasm that you think is so attractive? Stow it because it's not.
Step 2: Do everything you can to improve your appearance. As my grandmother's people would say, "Men love with their eyes." Put another way, "That law degree looks so sexy on you!" - said no man, ever. A little dab of perfume and some thigh highs will go way further in terms of your man's happiness.
Step 3: Lower your expectations. Men want a woman who is "pretty enough" for them, who they can have a conversation with, and who is a warm person. Women have a 4,256 item list. Fuck off with the list. There's a reason this woman is single. She fat. And she too opinionated. And she FAT.
Bonus: Learn how to cook. Not only will you enjoy delicious meals while you wait for Mr. Right to arrive on scene, you will be MILES ahead of your competition.
Now, this shit is GOLD. But women resent it when I tell them that, at least at first. Why? Because it's not All About THEM and how WONDERFUL THEY ARE, and how they DESERVE a 6'5" wealthy, movie star handsome member of the European nobility. Yeah, well Prince William is married and Prince Harry knocked up some actress or whatever. Of course it is then that I remind them that, if they are not willing to do these things, then they don't really want to get married, and they might as well head on down to the ASPCA and ask for the "Crazy Cat Lady Starter Kit" box-o-kittens. And so it goes.
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TRPmc117 8y ago
She's huffing and puffing within the first 10 seconds. The ultimate hamster. Someone this smart is literally doing a TED talk about why she's single, when the answer is starting up at her from her dinner plate.
ddiogenesofsinope 8y ago
Step one all the way uncle vasya.. You the man!
Peruhn 8y ago
It's a shame we don't see him around more. He's like GLO without the unnecessary sarcasm.
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I watched literally 3.5 seconds of that video in 4 parts:
I heard "I think I'm a pretty decent caaatch,' then i jumped 2 minutes to "in terms of what I want from a guy" another jump "I absolutely looove what I do," then "I'm really haaappy!"
I discovered the fat hamster show's no introspection.
Then I had to turn it off or risk punching my screen at work.
disgruntledearthling 8y ago
I watched 3 secs of it - if she were in a room I was in I would be leaving it.
RedPilledGodEmperor 8y ago
I watched that video for 2 minutes with no sound, but subtitles. Got to where she put up her long list of requirements for a man. Then acts surprised when she can't find that guy and had to keep settling. Just shows you a woman's thinking where she has ridiculous high standards, then ends up settling with a guy that she isn't happy with.
I agree 100% with what VasiliyZaitzev said and the funny thing is, the requirements he stated are not that hard at all. It's literally be pleasant to be around, stay in decent shape/look good and don't have a crazy list of expectations.
VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
You got the gist. "I don't NEED no man....except I need a man", etc. She also pretty much wants her own opinions repeated back to her, only in a deeper voice.
She also talks about how she likes to have sex, like it's a super positive, but in her case it translates as "Hey, I slutted it up during my prime time years, and now that's I'm hitting the Wall^SPLAT! YOU get to put a ring on it!" She has no clue what the message is that she's sending to guys.
And hey, I'm not saying she shouldn't have a shot at happiness. I for one LOVE tall girls. I just like tall girls that weigh less than I do (by a lot) and don't think that being "sassy" (read: a pain in the ass, as opposed to impish and playful) is so "SEEEEEEXY!"
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If you have to say it (especially in a fucking TED talk!), it ain't true.
10211799107 8y ago
Ex was 6'2 I hear you. I squat mid-upper thirties for being 6'4+ and pull 440lbs. GF was 2 inches shorter and the same weight I was before we broke up. She always stayed within 10lbs of me. Feels weird. My brain doesn't like fucking a "big woman". She didn't lift, so definitely fat. She did have amazing big perky tits that's the only reason I'd fuck her again.
destraht 8y ago
Damn I'm thinking that if she was thin and had a completely different mind that she could be quite good enough for many guys.
VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
So if she was a whole different person? A smaller, less opinionated person? /lulz
askmrcia 8y ago
Funny thing is, it really don't take that much work. All she has to do is have a healthy diet and exercise regular. Its not like she has to train like a pro athlete to lose some weight.
This is why I have the hardest time feeling bad for these fatties.
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It's literally as easy as eating less and jogging on a treadmill a few times a week. It's amazingly easy for women to get in shape. Men have to eat right, spend hours lifting heavy weights, also need to run, cycle their diets and vary their workouts at different times of the year, because if all a guy does is eat less and run on the treadmill he'll look like a soyboy. Men have it way harder in that respect, but we do it anyway.
OneRedYear 8y ago
I can't put my penis in your college degree.
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ThickDickWarrior89 8y ago
Brother, you haven’t posted in 19 days. Did you let yourself go?
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MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Yes, it's exactly a coincidence. Tinder and the like is a simple result of mobile phones and internet. Unrelated to college gender ratios.
As always in these articles, there is a subtle "men must do better" rather than "women shouldn't be so hypergamous". There is no law that says "a woman must have a man better educated than herself". Yet this is what women want, and this is the cause of their lack of options. Their BB side has waged war on men and largely alienated them from higher education, but now bemoans the lack of highly educated men. But rather than saying "hey, let's be nicer to men and perhaps stop rape-culture-persecuting them", they blame men for their supposed lack of effort.
Having, in the past, been exactly as described here, I can assure you that women behave the same whether you fit their verbally-stated preferences or not. Shit testing, passive-aggression, stupid emotional games, weird and unpredictable sexual interest.... the usual. Most women are undateable. They may want men to commit to them, but most are unworthy of that commitment.
Wow. The hypocrisy continues.
A mating pool unfairly stacked against them.
Unfairly. Men are now terrified to talk to women on campus for fear of a kangaroo court throwing them out for sexual harassment, which has now been reduced to her claiming discomfort. Men are avoiding college to avoid the pro-feminist bias against them that is ruining lives. And now we are to believe that the resulting dearth of men is "unfair" on women.
Women are ALWAYS presented as the victim of unfair circumstances.... yet hypergamy dictates that it's a minority of women who will be unsuccessful at dating, and the majority of men will struggle. Women date up, and most will do just fine.... enjoying endless AF on tinder and then settling down with a boring beta before having an affair or two and then a profitable divorces. Conversely most men will never enjoy sexual abundance, nor have their credit card debt paid off for them, nor have a life paid for by an ex-spouse.
Indeed it isn't. But what IS malleable is "who can we blame for this". And we all know who the favourite victim is in today's culture.
mcbenzene 8y ago
Agreed. I liked, but cringed at the same time, when the article states in essence that hypergamy is to blame but then tries to spin it as "a mating pool unfairly stacked against them."
MattyAnon Admin 8y ago
Yeah, if it was a mating pool unfairly stacked against men, we wouldn't hear how we "struggle to navigate the dating waters" - we'd be told to shut up and be grateful and work harder.
Don't forget how the school system increasingly favours women (structured to maximise female grades rather than male by playing to their strengths rather than ours), followed be a college system that expels men on women's say-so.
Extremely_Photogenic 8y ago
It's funny how the existence of a Female to Male disparity is because women work harder and are more conscientious, but a disparity in Males to Females is because of patriarchy.
SovereignSoul76 8y ago
Hey! Someone shut this guy up! Er, um....SEXIST!
batdh84 8y ago
Funny, in my engineering classes the ratio was 30 guys/1 girl.
destraht 8y ago
This plus some a few other points ties together why they are not worthy of their entitlement.
askmrcia 8y ago
I remember when I first went to college going into computer science. I thought to myself "yea all the dumb bimbos is majoring in easy shit, I'll have access to all the nerdy girls in comp sci classes."
Boy oh boy was I wrong. I mean there were girls in the intro classes, but they dropped out three weeks in. Second semester I believe we were down to like three girls and they were all asian and not that attractive.
Surrender01 8y ago
I started my Computer Science degree this semester. In my Comp Sci 1 class, we started with about 25 people, 5-7 of which were female. A month before the semester ends and we're down to 6 people, 0 of which are female.
According to my professor the majority of people dropped off after the unit on logic circuits. Apparently people can't handle simple logic.
Hillarysdilddo_2016 8y ago
Proof of muh patriarchy!
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^(not proof that women are worse at stem)
Im_no_imposter 8y ago
Plus, they just simply aren't as Interested in the field as men are.
banjew 8y ago
Article basically says "There is not enough betabux for post-wall over-educated libertarian women"
Well duh, no. No men for them. Thanks god.
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[deleted] 8y ago
Ha yeah - but many of them still want Chad Thundercock. I met one a couple of weeks ago. Successful, MBA, ... and was hitting on a tattooed ex army Chad at 31.
No LTR material there.
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Wireframe888 8y ago
These days I wouldn't consider someone with a humanities degree "College Educated".
destraht 8y ago
I consider it like an advanced associates degree. They should be able to write well, probably don't know any real science or yet have skills that can be translated to the real world. Its a general base to start on but the problem is that they think that they've made it and bureaucratic institutions consider it to be equal to my computer science degree, which its not.
mcbenzene 8y ago
These days educated = intelligent, which is NOT true.
Surrender01 8y ago
Agreed, except a philosophy degree. Having to actually ponder epistemology, get through formal logic courses, and argue an ethical position with some rigor teaches applicable skills. Philosophy majors score higher than anyone on the GREs except Math and Physics majors, and their lifetime earnings tend to be far higher than other humanities degrees.
Now, is it the same as the Computer Science and Mathematics degrees I'm earning? No, but I respect Philosophy majors far beyond Gender Studies, African-American Studies, Theater, or any of the other nonsense humanities degrees people are getting.
[deleted] 8y ago
Gee it's almost as if marriages last longer if there are external pressures holding them in place.
Westernhagen 8y ago
So your deadbedroom will be in a much nicer house. Yay!
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
Deadbedrooms are much better in a large house. You can enter downstairs through the basement, get a piece of pizza out of the downstairs fridge, turn on the big screen TV, and never even have to see the wife.
Plus, she can sneak a guy through the foyer and fuck him while your downstairs.
Big houses make for happy marriages. Obviously.
mcbenzene 8y ago
Isn't a big house also better for sneaking in a side bitch?
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in that scenario you are the side bitch
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
What I offer:
"I think I am a good catch. I have a PhD in history!"
What I want:
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This chick literally says I think I am a good catch at 1:30 in. Then for the next 10 minutes she tells us that men are bad. She is "great" and "fun." And this is what IIIIIIIIII want.
She offers NOTHING to a man. NOTHING except a belly and a big fat mouth that won't shut the fuck up.
Ganaria_Gente 8y ago
*checks to see any evidence of any feminist pushing for more females in male dominated "bad jobs" like construction, resource extraction, taxi driving..... Nope, nothing. Nada.
gosh I'm so shocked /s
Hillarysdilddo_2016 8y ago
What about all those poor males left behind in a 95% male industry such as garbage collection? When will the harpies lament their fate?
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
Yes that is it!!!! Women are jut superior to men. Blatent discrimination, unfairness in the mating game, and the total disincentivizing of men has nothing to do with it.
Yet men commit suicide at around 60,000 a year while women off themselves at a fraction of that rate. Oh stupid me! It is because men are weak and women are strong!
The solution is ALWAYS to improve the circumstances of women (but NEVER to actually improve women) and damage men. In this case it seems the logical solution is to elevate men but I note that is not even considered as a remote possibility.
As arrogant, overeducated sluts and whores scarf down boatloads of Alpha cocks, they learn their gender studies degree means exactly squat and the boatload of cocks weirdly makes them unsettled and unable to be satisfied with one man.
Men Bad.
Women good.
We got it.
[deleted] 8y ago
The crisis is self-inflicted. A buddy of mine owns his own plumbing business and is making over a $100k a year. He got turned down by a female attorney I know that makes $44k a year as a public defender, is 34, and refuses to date anyone making less than $65k. I fucked her in law school. I was her side dick while her fiancee at the time (he dumped her after I showed him some pics of her naked body post graduation) was busting his ass working at a firm as a Paralegal and going to law school. He got a gig making $58k right in his first year of practice and makes $70k in his sixth year (too pussy to go out on his own or start a partnership). He's 35 and dating a 24 year old ER nurse who is a sex piece of half-Irish half-Puerto Rican ass that can cook.
Women price themselves out of the market and then complain about it. You only get this education hard and fast by being 19 and living with gay guys who have tons of fag hag friends (my experience). Watch them bitch about there being no good guys out there, watch them treat the good guys they know who want them like shit, then watch them fuck HIV+ Chad, Tyrone, and Leroy in the laundry room at a party inside one hour.
Scarcity of beta bux is a big threat to the hypergamorous nature of women. It'll mean having to up their game to hook a sucker and more and more guys are waking up post 25 to the fact they are considered the backups and the guys women settle for, not out of love, but desperation to have access to resources and children.
I fear for my daughter's future, and envy my son a touch.All I can do is raise them the best I can and ensure they have a vast multitude of skills an abilities that put them leagues ahead of their competition.
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Colleges are selectively biased towards female students for political correctness cookie points, and very selectively biased against male students due to SJW's wanting to add variety to future work places. Apparently a competent work force that just happens to naturally consist of mostly white males (because most of our population is white) isn't what we need to compete in the global markets. The SJW's just want more color and Mary Sue girl power in the workplace to see how well we keep up with China, end results showing negative productivity be damned they will just blame everyone for not going along with their agenda.
[deleted] 8y ago
You just described when men do STEM and women don't: it's a meritocracy, and there's nowhere to fucking hide. Men want that; and women don't.
[deleted] 8y ago
Ever since companies required quotas on how many people of a specific race or gender were needed at every workplace meritocracy got tossed out the window. I have been picked over by inferior and less qualified uneducated candidates in an overt and blatant manner more times than I can count on both hands. As in "I will quit this job because this is racist/sexist bullshit" overt and blatant manner, obviously this plays hell on my resume which is probably the larger goal special interests have for the workforce anyway. Force out the productive white people, cause anger and resentment, then claim they are racist and/or sexist. It's like a predatory self-fulfilling prophecy they enact against the most hated demographic.
sadomasochrist 8y ago
These articles are all ridiculous. Literally what is even the point of these? How retarded do you have to be to write a piece like this? The cognitive dissonance must be just crushing.
BewareTheOldMan 8y ago
The point of these "High-Powered, Career Women Mating Crisis" articles is to get men to work harder to meet the demanding and exacting standards of these "high-quality" and "amazing" women.
Get to it boys. Time to measure up!
"Cue sarcasm"
IwannaFocus 8y ago
"Educated couples are more stable"
BluepillProfessor 8y ago
Only because high intelligence correlates with an ability to think before you leap and to not make stupid ass decisions based on the feeeeeeeelllllllinnnngs of the moment.
That is, high intelligence lets a woman control her hamster more easily and she is less likely to suddenly start fucking the tattooed biker.
On the other hand, high intelligence (and education) makes a woman more contrarian, home life MUCH less pleasant, and turbo charges their Shit Tests.
My wife makes almost 200,000 a year and we go on vacations all around the world. Having been there and done that let me assure you. It is not worth it, and I would NOT do it again. Your life with an "educated woman" is a CONSTANT, exhausting, never ending jockeying for position, battling, "discussing" and arguing. You can see this woman's attitude from her talk. She is aggressive, in your face and demanding.
Now in my marriage I don't argue. I don't even try to take the family out for dinner and more. I don't really take any initiative with the house or the family any more and truly don't give a fuck. I get my own dinner wherever I choose and guess what! I don't argue about the restaurant. I don't discuss it with myself. I...just...go...where...I...want! Imagine that! A peaceful meal without discussion and weighing the pros and cons of my choice. I am about to start doing that with vacations. No discussion. Just fucking leave and enjoy the week in Vegas. I could just leave the address if she decides she wants to go also.
In a marriage with a high earning " educated" woman the dynamic that develops is one of true NGAF. Everything YOU want to do is met with creative arguments and discussion. Everything SHE wants to do is agreed with and facilitated- or else you will "discuss" the issue until you
come to a resolutionagree with her.IwannaFocus 8y ago
The problem with these women is that they are self-destructive in most* (dare I say all?) relationships. Like most women they want a tiger. But unlike most women these ones try to pull out the fangs of the tiger. Like you said, it's a constant struggle that is not worth it - because the moment you submit, you'll lose your fangs and end up being "unattractive"
Less likely to suddenly start fucking that tattooed biker? If she's in the situation where she managed to pull out of the fangs of the tiger - and is starved for sex, she'll bend. No matter how educated they are, they can't fight their nature.
The only type of relationship that can work is FWB - for a short while.
Once they hit the wall, they'll either settle down for beta or enter the whatever wave that is the current feminism.
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