First ever post here. I want to add my experience in light of /u/KageRyu's series where he helped a friend get out of a shitty situation. In this post I wanna introduce my friend, add some background, describe and analyze his behavior and conclude with some thoughts on how to avoid wasting your precious time on people who frankly do not deserve it. I appreciate any criticism and apologize for any mistakes, English is not my first language.

A friend of mine that I met in highschool is constantly crying in a WhatsApp group (instant messenger in case you don't know it) of me, him and 2 others about how shit his life is, his depression and hatred for humanity, openly lets himself get dragged down by nihilist ideas, that he never even dated a girl etc etc. Just an hour ago actually sent a text saying he just woke up. It is fucking 3PM right now where I live. So this guy, lets call him Jeff, is complaining about life in group chat all the while sitting on his ass, doing the minimum for uni, playing videogames till 3AM and just being unproductive as fuck in general. He's socially inept, scrawny and incredibly nerdy. Adamantly liberal and anarchistic, quite elitist not only about his political views. You get the idea.

I decided that I was gonna try to help Jeff when he voiced his opinion on women in some disussion. Jeff said that he is looking for a smart independent woman that loves him for who he is and whom he can have scientific, philosophic or whatever kind of somewhat intellectual debates with. He thinks modern women are worthless since most are not intellectual individuals and lowering his standards to accomodate that is not an option for him, he did say however that looks don't matter to him past a certain minimum. Here's the kicker though - he decided that the best way to acquire such a woman is simply by doing absolutely nothing, not even motherfucking going out on a semi regular basis, and waiting until she magically falls into his lap while doing jack shit to become a better man (or rather a man in the first place). Yes, I'm serious. He actually thinks this is his best bet, and if it won't work he's just gonna die alone while seething in self pity.

Now for anyone who knows TRP his dream woman is pretty much textbook bluepill fantasy on top of his "plan" being unrealistic as fuck which should be obvious to anyone. Jeff is pretty much the male equivalent of a blue haired feminazi 400lbs tumblrina hamplanet asking where all the good men have gone and rambling on about muh inner beauty.

I told him that his expectations are not proportional to what he can offer and that he has unrealistic expectations in the first place, that a relationship between a man and a woman is not based around intellectual exchange. That couples in a traditional marriage with traditional gender roles are happier and less likely to divorce which I backed with statistics and pure evolutionary logic. That yes, men and women are adapted to their gender roles (men do not fucking give birth to babies and neither do they have bodily features that can feed one). That just because society has been degenerating over the past 50 years or so doesn't mean intergender relationship dynamics have catched up to Feminist views. That Feminism started out with equal rights which is desirable and then went from the equality lie through to the absurd bullshit we deal with today. That women largely prefer muscles and not brains, asked him if he sees Mensa International members drowning in pussy or if it's rather gymbros getting all the girls.

Jeffs reaction boils down to a lot of ad hominem, a lot of mental gymnastics to question my statistics (they only examined married couples, surely the fraction of couples that never legally marry are totally different for whatever fucking reason), total disregard of evolutionary logic even though he is an adamant atheist, that he'd rather die alone than adapting his standards. He said going to the gym is not an option because there are only primates there. In response I laid down the various advantages of regularly going to the gym with emphasis on discipline and confidence. He said he is disciplined (yeah fucking right, and gets out of bed at fucking 2PM) and that his appearance does not have any effect on his confidence at all. The discussion went on for hours in total and we ended up in a place where he was pretty much proven wrong. He then went on to say that he's gonna disregard my advice because I have no clue what I am talking about and cannot possibly be right. He seriously made remarks that I vape as if that's a fucking argument. I asked him to show me a single time where he could refute my theses with tangible proof. He told me to search for such a passage myself, and at that point I realized I'm wasting my time and gave up (should have realized that way way way earlier).

I think Jeff values intellect so much and disregards everything else because he's a smart guy, mentioned he has ~120 IQ or something but has literally no fucking quality beyond that. He is trying to bend society around this quality of his. Feminine mindset. He is trying to cover his insecurities by telling himself that only IQ should matter in today's society, that his appearance should be disregarded and since it obviously is not that way society is at fault and not him. He said my advice does not apply to him because he's different, special snowflake syndrome. He failed to explain in what way going to the gym could possibly be detrimental to his psychic or physical health, but kept claiming it's not for him since he's different. In short, his bluepill reasoning is literally the stereotypical feminine mindset discussed here constantly. Complete with victim mentality, snowflake syndrome and shittons of rationalizations. Cannot deal with the possibility that he is wrong. Will completely disregard any input if it is not in line with his views.

[TL;DR] / Conclusion:

Point is, you cannot argue with people whose heads are this deep up their asses. Who are this bluepill. I know many people here used to say don't talk about RP stuff IRL but if you truly want to help a brother out or more generally speaking if you want to argue about ANYTHING, before you begin assess your chances of success. Think about whether it will be worth your time if you get into this argument. I know I certainly have a problem arguing far too often, especially on reddit, and I don't think I am alone with that. Even if they seem like good people, they might still be completely resistant to different opinions. If you happen to know how they act in ordinary discussions that'll give you a good idea about their openness towards other ideas. If they're adamant about politics (especially progressive views) they're probably not gonna accept RP truths. If they're adamant about feminism, FUCKING ABORT MISSION. Do not waste your time on futile arguments. Do not argue with people who do not want their mindset challenged.

The story I mentioned in the beginning might be inspiring but don't expect to replicate that kind of success.

I'm still hoping I could at least plant a seed inside his head but I'm probably just rationalizing the hours I wasted on this. Don't make this mistake guys, your time is better spent fucking jacking off than arguing with a wall.

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