All of us, or at least most of us on here, want to get with girls that we consider hot and can brag about being with. I would say that I've been with girls that are up there in terms of looks, not exactly super models but definitely head turners. Now these days, I find that my life has changed a lot more in terms of game. Back when I was starting out in my mid 20s, I would get laid a good bit but it was by 6s and 7s instead of girls in that solid 8 category. Most of the times, that is exactly what it was, just sex and nothing else.
Even recently a month ago, I was having rough sex with women that I would rate in the 7 category but not top tier women by any means. The women were typically post wall but they retained their looks, almost all of them were wild in bed. I did manage to get with a couple of cute girls fresh out of college but again, they weren't top tier when it came to looks, they were cute but not hot.
Throughout my life I had moments where I saw guys who weren't even all that good looking in terms of looks or game but they still managed to go on dates with some girls that were up there in the 9 or 10 category. Right there they were, walking into the building with that beauty by their arm and every guy just wondering what it is about that guy. I used to be the guy that wondered that too but now, based on my experiences, I've noticed what they were doing right.
Whether it is that plain looking hipster with a hot blonde by his arm or a chubby guy with some arm candy, there is a way these guys operate.
The truth is, these guys are good with people and not just women.
A lot of guys on TRP will shun this idea, they will suffer greatly in the game despite all the claims they make about how they are some suave cold approach guy who is too alpha to make friends. Most of these guys will be the awkward creepy PUA that approaches girls at bars and nightclubs and gets blown out.
I feel like you can be good with women and have tight game but not be good with people, which robs you of the opportunity to truly hit your peak in terms of the game. A good example is just looking back at your younger days in high school and even in college, the guys that managed to get the hottest girls were typically popular. Even back in college, you saw guys with dad bods who happened to be in a popular fraternity beat out guys who were better looking than them and get hotter girls by their arms on dates and many other events.
In the real world, the game plays out with social circles and popularity contests as well. The guys who have access to the best parties, have friends who happen to be a part of such a higher status social circle, and the guys who are just good at networking with the right kinds of guys. In a way, these guys know how to play the social circle game to the point where they can find a way to be a part of the same circles that a lot of the hot girls run in. Many of these guys have found a way to work social circle game to their advantage and get both guys and girls in such circles to like them.
Now already in a venue such as a nightclub, this gives the guys an advantage with those girls because while your typical PUA might try to approach them, he is likely going to get blown out. Same with online dating, most girls who are up there in terms of looks use online dating for just that, validation and not really meeting guys because they already have guys in their circles. Now while you can pull 6s and even 7s somewhat regularly with online dating if you're a top tier guy, you won't have as much success with 8s and up.
It's great even if they don't get laid all the time.
Some of these guys will undoubtedly get with hot girls but if they don't, it isn't that big of a setback. Many of these guys are having pool parties with hot girls in them, having hot girls back at their place, and going out with some arm candy. Compare that to a PUA or a normal guy who has tight game, he is getting with a cute girl and then leaving after that. Maybe he lucks out with a 7, fucks her for the night, and leaves the next morning. The whole time, he is getting the sex but he is not getting fun experiences with hot girls that can lead to even more options such as meeting her other hot friends.
But here is the catch and why most of you likely won't be this guy.
It is definitely an investment, a lot of work, and it takes time. Most guys on here will shun the idea of having to be a part of a social circle, make a lot of new friends, and despise the whole popularity lifestyle; these same guys will struggle to get hot girls. A lot of other guys might try but they will find it way too much work, at one point I did as I was working at a nightclub on weekends and having a full time job on the weekdays (looking to get back to the service industry again).
On top of that, it is a luck of the draw in terms of social circle, some guys just won't like you. I am a minority (not white) and some guys absolutely hate the idea of allowing me into their social circles and letting me game top tier white girls, other guys aren't so hostile about it.
It's a lot of work, it's frustrating, it will get in the way of your more moral and fulfilling life goals, but in the end if hot girls is what you want, it is worth it.
rombios 8y ago
pussy is pussy. anything above a 5 or 6 in looks will suffice for what most men want out of it, lets be honest.
id rather spend time building my savings account, learning new skills or launching a business.
all of which will pull the 8 or 9's later in life with minimal effort on my part.
before you respond "she'll only want you for your money", who gives a shit, you give up either time or money and at that level, time is more precious than money
ShallITinder 8y ago
So wrong and so delusional, someone obviously hasn't had that much luck in the game.
rombios 8y ago
define "luck" in.the game? two a week, two a month, two a year?
a lot of FR's arent verifiable and everyone here is "alpha".
as i said pussy is pussy unless you want arm candy to impress your friends ... any average to good looking girl will do . she neednt be top shelf.
my god man, are you going to blow a bigger load with a 9 over a 5? the rush will end in just thw same amount of time
AFPJ 8y ago
Eh, YMMV. Going out, and knowing people is fun - so is fucking chicks that can't ruin it since they don't know anyone.
whats_the_deal22 8y ago
I've been coming to this realization lately. I tend to stay within my own circle and don't venture out much. It's such a mistake. My room mate is from another city not to far away, but in the past year he has met so many people just from a couple random jobs. Not like a elite social circles or anything but it's definitely helped him meet more girls.
yummyluckycharms 8y ago
This guide seems to geared towards the other 30 crowd or even under 25.
Now this is not to say that I dont believe in social circle game - I totally do - but the hotties that are chasing after alpha elite (think investment bankers, consultants, etc) aren't going to night clubs - but elite social events. Night clubbing is pretty passe - not many people do it as much as 10 years ago - so people have migrated to different type of events
dr_warlock 8y ago
That whole James Bond mysterious Alpha-Sigma fantasy is just that, a fantasy. It's all about status. We evolved in tribes. Cold approach is an attempt to circumvent the need for group belonging. You are trying to cut out the middleman and go straight for the pussy because social circle game takes a lot time to develop and maintain. Cold-approach can no doubt work, but this puts you in a position of compensation. You must make up for sexual attribute displays that occur in a tribal setting (i.e. a party) by substituting it with mere hints and exceptional qualities. With intersecting social circles, your SMV has a chain reaction effect that's self-sustaining. With each cold approach, you have to start all over again.
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Q: How does one compensate for their lack of tribal belonging?
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1) Great looks. Not good looks. GREAT looks, the equivalent of this is being a girl's fancy for one reason or another. The benefits of facial aestetics lies on an exponential curve. The space between good looks and Chadtastic provides negligible returns. After that, the value skyrockets.
2) Be visibly large and muscular. You need a physique that shows through your clothes.
3) Great game
4) Money. You can have decent looks, decent clothing, good physique and be a loner, but you have a Lambo or sporty Porsche and that does the trick.
5) Play the numbers game to more likely run into the exceptions (not an even distribution). The guys that I know that smash ass left and right without showing their friends have Tinder as a part time job.
6) Fake pre-selection: fake texts from 'girls' and fake hot social media friends. Remember the machiavellian bodybuilder post?
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Most guys that acquire success with the CA approach fall into groups 1 (woman's fancy exception) and 5, playing the numbers game.
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You could be good looking, confident, and dress decent, but still won't be even be considered for insemination. Take the same you and place a social circle around it, then suddenly she's interested. This is because women don't see you for you, they men as tools to extract things from. Men can survive without women, but not the other way around. When you have status in a social circle, she sees the social circle as power that you personally wield in the environment that she can potentially tap into. Her body will then tell her to bestow her vaginal affections upon you so that privilege, power, status, and resources trickle down to her via sexual association without having the burden of gathering, developing, and maintaining it herself. Women don't want power, they want access.
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Cold approach alone is largely inefficient. One-on-one dates are NOT how most sex is had. If she does not see how she can gain access to social capital via your introduction, she won't be interested. Believe me, take this from someone who spent years attempting to circumvent the need for a 'tribe'. Little success came from it. Only solo interactions with women whose niche I so happen to fit were successful. They think something's off when they repeatedly see you without friends. The times where I had social circle status? No problemo. This is not a 'blue pill rule', this is natural law. Any attempt to 'cheat' will have you slamming into a wall.
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Let's not forget that cold-approach is spam. Most guys that do this don't compensate for the lack of tribe as stated earlier. Over time this has women strengthen their male filtration mechanisms via bitch shields and other unpleasant behavior upon approach to scare off the undesireables (sometimes you're considered undesirable just for being scared of the bitch shield).
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Go ahead, be the lone-wolf alpha-sigma all you want, just understand you will acquire inferior results compared to men with lower objective SMV and social circles. Be prepared to put in effort to compensate for you lack of a tribe.
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AFPJ 8y ago
Status establishes itself, assuming one has any, within minutes of walking into a bar or club.
Social circle smashes are extra pussy at the cost of ulterior motives. You don't get shit for free, it's either you doing slightly more when solo or risking massive amounts of drama around your friends. I'd rather take the risk up front.
SmilingWatermelon 8y ago
You know, I think your on to something with that niche thing. Social circle game is important. Although it doesn't need to be chore if you can find a way to become charismatic.
Returnofthemack3 8y ago
yeah pretty much. Even when I was dumber with women, having a wide social network made it easy to get that instant validation, which occasionally led to easy sex even with my clueless self. It should be noted this kind of changes after college though...like yeah, you might have some groups you hang with on occasion in your mid to late 20s, but with people marrying, moving away, being sucked up in careers...the social groups you once had become a lot harder to maintain, if not impossible depending on your interests. Best bet is probably to get into some sort of social hobby that forces you to regularly meet with like minded peeps
edit: but yeah, I guess what i'm saying though is it isn't really all that weird to only occasionally hang with people and lack that cohesive socail gropu thing later on in life. In College, it's def a red flag though, and probably shoudln't be in this situation til youre 25 or so
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This is a great comment.
Strangely, I was thinking about this exact topic for awhile yesterday.
"Sigma" types don't realize how much easier it is to Game women when you have a tribe. First, a good social circle means you continually get introduced to new connections. That's right. You meet women, friends, and business contacts as part of your every day routine.
You meet friends-of-friends. Your buddy's girlfriend invites her friends to your Christmas party. You're out at a bar and your boy recognizes someone in a different group, and they all end up coming over. A mutual friend sets you up with a business contact in your industry.
Two weekends ago I went to a bar for one of my buddy's birthdays. He just moved to this city to attend grad school, so most of the people there were his new classmates. I was introduced to all of them, had immediate social proof since I knew the birthday boy, and spent the whole time talking to his hot female classmates.
This kind of shit happens to me all the time when my social network is firing correctly.
I experienced a dramatic rise in status my senior year of high school, during which I learned another rule of social interaction. High-status means you're given more information about the social system. At least three times that year I had a friend tell me something like this: "Hey man, X girl was talking about you. You should hit her up tonight, she's into you."
That kind of info was never passed onto me during my first three years of high school. When you're higher status, though, other guys actually want to help you out so they can curry favor with you and climb the totem pole.
Whether we're talking about high school cliques, Democrats and Republicans, college fraternities, or even street gangs, tribes are a source of tremendous organization and power. They control the environment (especially in closed social systems like college campuses.)
Lastly, a good social circle helps with Frame. If you're out at night with a group of friends who are fun to be around, then the night will be good no matter what happens. Then you're free to take rejections and laugh them off. If you're a loner, on the other hand, and you're going out with one other dude (or even by yourself), then it's much harder to maintain frame when that girl you think you have a chance with suddenly pulls up Uber and has to go.
VasiliyZaitzev 8y ago
That sounds a bit like "Left-handed people just don't realize how much easier it is to do things right-handed."
jackandjill22 8y ago
Sound like preseletion. It's unbelievable how much social rituals have completely dominated every other means of accomplishing anything. I don't know it if it's vapid or what.
ShallITinder 8y ago
He GETS it!
Now that being said, you can get 6s and 7s through cold approach but for 9s and 10s, you need the social circles.
dr_warlock 8y ago
I travel the city working all week and even walk around on the weekend. I rarely see the initial phases of the mating ritual take place. I only see the after i.e. couples, spouses, and already established groups. I stand there wondering, where is all the germination taking place?
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One day it struck me, the SMP is now invisible. Look at the sky. Do you see it? No you can't, human eyes can't see radio waves connecting her phone to towers and servers around the world at the speed of light. Women are now vetting almost exclusively through social media then follow up via text message. When finally see her in male company, much of the ritual has already taken place.
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This is what women are doing when you see them walking around glued to their phones. Not only does electronic interaction prevent her from experiencing uncomfy feelz in person, social media allows women to centralize male status resumes to the palm of their hand. By the time a woman puts her phone down, the window of opportunity has closed and is no longer in the mood. I'm now getting requests for my social media accounts indirectly, "what's your last name?"
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Even 6's and 7's have their standards shot through the stratosphere because of social media and it's infecting them younger and younger everyday. It is a drug that creates an unreplicable dopamine tolerance. It gets to the point where they rather settle for validation in the form of comments, likes, and stares in the street. When you talk to her (after she puts her phone down), she's already been approached online 20 times that day. You better have a fantastic cover letter.
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ConsiderThyself 8y ago
So people should just dive in to the social media for date/logistics? I always viewed it as a waste of time and never got interested in FB/Twitter/instagram/tinder. Pretty much anything. I find life more genuine and fun in real life, people fixed on their little phones all the time kinda irridates me.
ShallITinder 8y ago
True, which is why I think guys are being idiots these days for not hitting social media hard enough.
allrandomworldnews 8y ago
So to sum it up you say that a good facebook profile is worth more then good looks+game+clothes because we get better before the meet up?
In that case everyone that is not falling for the facebook datamine is actually handicapped.
PraetereoBonobos 8y ago
Look at it as more of a supplement or a boost. A man being the main man where ever he goes, party's, diners, the store, and is greeted and looked upon by everyone does not need to maintain social media. Social media however can be a tool used in order to become one of those men.
IDefyAxioms 8y ago
Does this change the importance of social media in a person's life in the opinion of the sub, then? Is an interesting Snapchat/IG/Tinder your requirement to engage (not just for women, but in social circles as well)?
I'm right in the thick of this social media generation (19 y/o), and I seem to be doing just fine socially without the need for these accounts. Sexually is a whole different matter, but I digress. Are you not a valid person without your social media proof today?
dr_warlock 8y ago
Social media allows you to display status across multiple contexts simultaneously. In other words, you need not be present to acquire fruit. I hate social media in an of itself not to mention privacy/surveillance issues. However, if you do not have social media, you're doing yourself a sexual disservice.
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Read More: http://www.redpilldoctor.com/hypergamy-102-perception-context-means-everything/
dr_warlock 8y ago
You're 19, highschool/college is an unsustainable artificial enironment subsidized by your parents and government loans. Real life is much different.
cappingPeople 8y ago
I think he asked if he should be more active on social media as a means of gaming.
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PantsonFire1234 8y ago
I can validate that this is true. I've always been a people person and very good at gathering groups around me. Although with age new challenges have arisen I am comfortable with the social options I have for myself. Where I lacked in other areas of SMV it was my social presence that got me girls. It also made me lose them instantly the moment I got depressed and quit socializing for a while.
So by all means, be a people guy.
blackedoutfast 8y ago
i agree. having good social skills and status is extremely valuable.
Alth12 8y ago
Definitely worth trying to get into the social circles where top tier girls circulate but I'd say in a lot of those cases just being good socially isn't enough. If you want to get into one of those circles being ripped will help. The doughboys you see in them haven't joined recently but are there because "we've known him since, like, forever!"
I know where I'm from (small island 100k pop) you can see that there are maybe 2 large social circles where the top tier girls are, with time splinter groups and hangers on. They've all known each other from school/college and friends, brothers/sisters, friends of friends etc get added as they go. Most of the new random guys who join are ripped alphas (aka can walk the walk not just talk). Good luck joining that type of circle as an average Joe even with social skills. Not happening.
Guess what I'm trying to say is careful with taking too much from average Joe with hot girls cases. If he's known them since he was a kid of course he's comfortable with them, they hang off him, laugh at his jokes etc but that doesn't mean a new guy coming along will get that. His comfort is comfort through familiarity. Can we take that from him? maybe. But put him in a room with random Victoria Secret models will he be as comfortable and assured?
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Great post. If you have high status among your pears and important social groups your SMV will sky rocket. Simply put be interesting.
Its evolutionary being with a guy who is out of the tribe ment certain death. Today it means being broke, hot chicks are lazy and don't like being broke.
Hjalmbere 8y ago
I would say 'good with people' translates to high social status. The chubby hipster with the beautiful blonde might be hot shit in his subculture/social clique.
zephyrprime 8y ago
This is all very true. The true nature of game is social. A lot of guys on the internet don't like socializing though so even if they attempted and were successful at such a form of game, they would end up hating their life. What's even more funny is that TRP is always talking about SMV but how do women even know what your SMV is? The only part of your SMV that is valid outside of a social context is your looks. Even your money is only effective once she is pulled into your social circle and can see firsthand your material wealth.
RichKingOfBangmar 8y ago
I don't know how many guys here want to be fucking 20-somethings at ages over 45, all I know is that nobody has asked this.
How exactly is a silver fox going to get into hot 20-somethings' social circles?
sir_wankalot_here 8y ago
You miss the point of OP's post. Being more charismatic or personable means you meet more people in general. The best salesmen like people, they are also able to jump social circles to some degree.
HS-Thompson 8y ago
You don't try to get in their social circles, you offer her up the promise of access to yours.
RichKingOfBangmar 8y ago
After meeting them how, exactly? OP's post is about substituting lateral movement across social circles for approaching strangers. Before you can invite hotties to hang out with your old-timer circle, you're going to be joining their youngster circles. How?
ShallITinder 8y ago
Ya at that point, you need superb status or sugar daddy game, can't be done so easily. Even at 30 it will be tough, doable but tough.
RichKingOfBangmar 8y ago
20-somethings are going to be impressed by my status among geezers? I'm going to float around in the most exclusive young circles because I'm popular among retirees and shuffleboard players?
Frequenting prostitutes is a last resort.
I asked this to highlight that, while playing the social circle game can yield reliable results, depending on one's goals, it may not be the best skill to cultivate. As a middle ground, it may not be the only skill one should cultivate.
I want to be fucking 20-somethings into my ripe, wrinkly, old years. I predict I'll do much better with 20+ years of expertise approaching and seducing strangers than trying to fit in with the young crowd.
Someone who turns their back on this angle is going to be confined to their age bracket as they grow older. It bears slapping a warning label on the side, don't you think?
PraetereoBonobos 8y ago
No, you are wrong to think just cold approaching without a social circle when your old is going to work, you will just be an old creepy guy. As you get older you want POWERFUL social circles, not just the ones old people hangout in, or young girls hangout in. Ones that control the world you live in, the media you see, the laws you follow.
YourRussianUncle 8y ago
Being attractive is "universal".
That is, being charismatic is a thing you are, not something you turn on just for women.
anonymousapple111 8y ago
Meh. I've seen guys with lame sense of humor and generally unlikeable pulling mad pussy. What turns on women isn't universal likeability
YourRussianUncle 8y ago
it helps. charisma is not a good sense of humor. its a ven diagram, not target shooting
zephyrprime 8y ago
Yeah. A lot of the cocky stuff girls like is douchey and combative to other guys.
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Nice post. The TRP often underrates the importance of social circles.
Guys with social anxiety/beta tendencies wish that social circles weren't necessary. But realistically, without a social network you're powerless. You won't be invited to as many fun events, won't get introduced to hot women, and will have a hard time organizing nights out.
When you do go out, it will usually not be with other high-status guys. It will be more like whoever's available (roommates, coworkers, etc.) or friends you know from way back.
jackandjill22 8y ago
That's interesting. Follow-up questions would be abound.
RawgerOThornhill 8y ago
This post makes a lot of sense to me. I'm 5'10", average looking, bald, fit and trim but not heavily muscled (by choice, I prefer being lean and lighter weight based on my favored activities, including sailing, hiking, etc.). WRT clubs, I can't compete on looks and my approach game is still a work-in-progress. But I am extremely wide-band with people (i.e. can deal with many types of people, from CEOs to pipefitters, young women to grandmas), friendly, and highly skilled socially. If I'm going to a club that night, I day game in my social or work circles where women know me and what my accomplishments are. This adds at least 2, maybe 3 points to my SMV, so that instead of being stuck with 5's and 6's, I can use my social capital to make things happen with 8's or even 9's. I remember leveraging this to get an HB8+ (5'9" blonde, blue-eyed, great figure, funny and charismatic) to a football game with me. We were wandering around meeting people before the game. She introduced me to a lot of her friends of all ages and I was charming and witty and fun with all of them. She was also very skilled socially and highly intelligent. We ran into some guy she knew peripherally, and you could tell he was allowing himself to be too impressed with her looks, and he looks at me and says basically: so you think you can own this woman (I think he wanted to say "bitch" instead). I think the difference in SMV from a strictly looks perspective was so startling to him he just blurted that out.
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aanarchist 8y ago
101 when your life revolves around pussy
rombios 8y ago
that was a point i was trying to make earlier.
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ShallITinder 8y ago
The issue is, with cold approach you will have to do A LOT more work to get with hot girls and they usually fall flat most of the times.
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GreenTrader 8y ago
100% agree with this post and this is what PUA doesn't teach. The bottom line is the most fish you have in the water, the more likely you can catch a few. Having a large circle of friends helps this immensely. And if you are higher up in the chain in said social group, most chicks will come to you. You will never have to chase them. It also ties into the snowball effect of attractiveness. In my own personal life, there are times where I can't pull anything and then boom it's overwhelming. Talk to people, be real and not phony, they will want to talk to you.
drallcom3 8y ago
Almost all the guys I know who get the hot girls have this in common. They're good talkers, fun to be around and every social circle loves them. They come in all shapes and sizes, actually none of them are tall and ripped. They're stylish though (doesn't mean well groomed). At every party you go to you most likely see the life of the party guy hooking up with someone or the dude who can entertain a whole group of strangers.
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circlhat 8y ago
None of this is true, I seen women choose abusive guys people hate, and no one respects. Social skills are good, but game is something else
empatheticapathetic 8y ago
I agree. My sisters bf of 15 years is Chad thundercock (he sticks around because she is good to him and owns her own house). This guy is a total cuntbag and I've hated him my whole life, he doesn't have the respect of fellow dudes or people, but his game with women is unreal. He talks the perfect amount of bullshit and lives for the validation that women want him, but he has little to none friends or family.
J-baller 8y ago
How many of these women are "Top Tier Women" Instagram models and tv presenters. We aren't referring to the 4s, 5s and occasional 6s. We are talking about the hottest women. The guys who sleep with the most attractive girls do it through SOCIAL CIRCLE. That's what I have observed this past year. I used to be that guy going around cold approaching with the intention of getting laid off that. With time I began to realize that there's actually a more efficient way to date the most desirable women
[deleted] 8y ago
Nice read op. I agree with you because I am a lot like what you're mentioning in this thread. I have a lot of friends. Not surprisingly Good looking guys will have sex easier then average/ugly. But its just a 1 night stand. But my friends who are butt ugly pulls chick and keep them. They are like the coolest ppl I know, they aren't just good with women, they're good with everyone.
LordThunderbolt 8y ago
Who cares about keeping them?
Nyghtshroude 8y ago
Yeah an inconvenient truth is the better you are with people the better you are with women. The more on point your social skills are, along with physical attractiveness, the more likely you will be seen favourably, not just by women but by people in general.
People like being around successful people. Women are programmed to go for that not only instinctively but also what their mothers and society tell them.
Thugs and bad boys only get women because usually they provide protection and excitement. As women get older (from about 25-30) they start to want to plan for the future, i.e. kids so they will want a guy who is financially stable.
ShallITinder 8y ago
wrong
you completely misunderstood my whole post, at no point does the financially stable dork get action unless she is way past her prime and wanting to get married (deadbedrooms)
zephyrprime 8y ago
Yeah but that's exactly the context he is talking about. He said so explicitly: "As women get older (from about 25-30) they start to want to plan for the future, i.e. kids so they will want a guy who is financially stable."
jackandjill22 8y ago
Are you saying cliquish-ness determines social success oftentimes?
trippinallday 8y ago
He's more saying that your social abilities and proof determine whether you're going to get with a top tier women. Even if you're shredded and look perfect, if you're just some lone wolf most of these women won't be interested.
If, however, you place yourself in the right social circles and show that you know the right people, bam, suddenly they're a hell of a lot more interested.
jackandjill22 8y ago
That's a fair point. He's essentially saying social context determines how attractive you are. It's interesting. It's utterly amazing how much social hierarchy influences your success in comparison to any other aspect in this society.
Paid_Internet_Troll 8y ago
A guy who can walk into any room, in any town, with any of a wide variety of social classes in the room, and make instant acquaintances and build social rapport is a valuable asset for a young woman to befriend.
It goes back to feeling/being safe and protected; out in the wilderness this might mean the big, burly guy who could fight off animals. In civilization, it often means someone who can offer inroads into the social group.
Loners don't last long, compared to people who can forge strong social bonds with the powers-that-be.
jackandjill22 8y ago
That's an acute observation. Why don't loners last long? It seems strange that talking with randoms would be valued so highly in comparison with other traits/characteristics.
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Paid_Internet_Troll 8y ago
Think back to caveman days.
The guy who can form alliances quickly and easily can easily put together a coalition to stomp the shit out of any loners.
When food gets scarce, and people start wondering who's going to be sent out onto an ice flow to die, a woman is much better off being with Mr. Popular and his crew than being sent out with her children to die after Muscly McLoneWolf gets gang-stomped.
People haven't evolved much since then... and even in civilization, the group social dynamics play out in very similar ways.
There may be less stomping (depending on where you live), but social ostracism is the kiss of death for people who can't secure enough resources on thier own to survive.
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