Pink-haired comedian Alice Brine recently made a Facebook post that is supposed to an analogy for "rape victim blaming". It is sitting at 183k likes, getting reposted like crazy and has been featured in Buzzfeed, Huff Post, Cosmopolitan, Daily Mail and everywhere else.
It's the sort of thing SJW mainstream media loves, but it is utter bullshit.
Let's look at the post:
I'm gunna start going home with random very drunk guys and stealing all of their shit. Everything they own.
Just like how drunk girls take guys home to fuck them, drunk men take girls home to have them steal all their shit, right? This analogy is off to a great start.
It won't be my fault though... they were drunk. They should have known better.
When there are rape accusations, even when it later turns out that the whole thing was fabricated, the man still has his face plastered everywhere, gets his reputation and social life ruined, gets death threats, beaten up by strangers, and loses his job before the courts finally absolve him off guilt; and the acquital gets no press so many of the social consequences keep on going.
Blame falls heavily on those accused of rape, so analogy failing again.
I'll get away with it 90% of the time but then when one brave man takes me to court over it, I'll argue that I wasn't sure if he meant it when he said 'no don't steal my Audi.' I just wasn't sure if he meant it. I said 'Can I please steal your Gucci watch?' He said 'no' but I just wasn't sure if he meant it.
In the history of the world, I doubt that there has ever been anyone who said "no, don't steal my stuff" and then changed their minds later. However, girls do say "we're not having sex" and then change their minds later. Maybe it is a test, maybe it is just failing to resist temptation. This happens all the time with people; they say they're not eating more cake or not getting drunk tonight. People change their minds all the time, just like how she's been grinding up against the guy on the dance floor all night and then she takes him home and then decides she doesn't want to fuck him after all, which is the whole premise of an "I took him home and he raped me" case.
He was drunk. He brought this on himself.
When a man isn't convicted of rape, it is not because "she asked to be raped so that makes it ok", it is because the police or courts find that she might just have had perfectly normal, consensual sex with him.
You should have seen how he was dressed at the club, expensive shirts and shoes. What kind of message is he sending with that!? I thought he wanted me to come and steal all of his shit. He was asking for it.
Yes, because just like girls wear sexy clothes to get male attention, men wear expensive stuff because they want to get robbed, right?
When he said 'no' to me taking everything he owned I just didn't know if he meant it. 'No' isn't objective enough, it could mean anything.
No is perfectly objective. There has never been a rape case where the man got acquitted even though it was proven that the girl was saying no.
The problem that the police and courts face is that women sometimes make false rape accusations - maybe she regretted having sex, maybe he didn't want anything to do with her the next day and she wants revenge for that, maybe she felt the need to salvage her slut reputation, maybe she just wants some attention. For some girls there is good reason to pretend she was raped, and it carries very little risk.
On the other hand most men find the idea of actually raping anyone revolting and certainly not something they get off on, and the risks are enormous. It's a pathological and deeply irrational crime.
In the sort of cases Brine made an analogy about, what we do know is that she took him home which is a very clear indication that she planned on having sex. Maybe she changed her mind before they had sex and he turned out to be a rapist scumbag. Maybe she didn't change her mind until after they had sex, and she made a false rape accusation. That's up for the police and courts to decide.
It is not up to comedians, SJWs or the media to destroy a man's life without due process. What Brine wrote is arguing for circumvention of the basis of the judicial system where innocence is presumed. It is asking for people to get tried by popular opinion, and it is shit like that that lets "reverse burden of proof" rear its ugly head.
Yet her post goes viral, gets shared and praised everywhere from Facebook to the Daily Mail. Imagine if it was any other crime where someone was arguing that even though the known facts point towards no crime the accused should be assumed guilty, what sort of reaction would that warrant?

PantsonFire1234 9y ago
Honestly it's a great analogy, the broad is just to stupid to not realize she gut punched herself. If I'm drunk and I take some shady girl with me back home and I allow her to steal all my stuff THEN THAT'S STILL MY RESPONSIBILITY That's my bad, I should know better than to leave my guard down like that. I don't go about inviting random people to my house parties either.
If you're a slut, dressing slutty, out looking to fuck and you bring home a guy that indicated he wants to fuck- but after the act you regret it. Then that's your fucked up choice.
If you're a normal healthy woman (rare occurrence nowadays) and you're making your way home to boyfriend/husband/cat collection after a long day of productiveness and some smelling unshaved hobo drags you into an alley- that's rape.
know the difference bitches
FortunateBum 9y ago
This woman's post supports my current working definition of rape:
When a woman experiences sexual activity without feeling adequately compensated.
RedDeadCred 9y ago
She's right, now she just needs to find a guy who gives her things all night then tries to take them back before she leaves. That dude is asking to be robbed.
MOCKxTHExCROSS 9y ago
I had a brand new mountain bike stolen at gunpoint. It was late at night and I was riding around drunk and high. I blame myself for being irresponsible and putting myself in that situation.
Luckyluke23 9y ago
I'm the first to admit sometimes i was some dumb shit... but did she ( i saw a picture of her once i googled her, more like him) think before opening her mouth? like fuck.
that shits not even relatable let alone funny
BluepillProfessor 9y ago
So....the precious almighty vagina is equivalent to "everything you own."
Got it!
Five minutes of sex is equal to a lifetime of work.
Of course!
Methinks these chicks overvalue their vagina.
A more suitable analogy is the man gets $300.00 stolen from him. THAT is the true value of pussy. It is not "everything you own" but merely a few dead Presidents and we are even, cunt.
[deleted] 9y ago
No, I don't think they overvalue it. This is the entire source of their power. If they are not able to choose who they have sex with (and what they get in return) then they have no power over men. A woman that has no power over men is a dead woman. A 'strong independent' dead woman, but a dead woman. Even fatties get stuff from men, because she is still a girl, and men are biased in favour of girls. Even now, in Western societies, women are totally dependent on men, they just can't see it because it is anonymized. In places and times where society is not rich and does not have safety nets, she is either dead or wishes she was.
So yes, it is equivalent to all of a guy's possessions, as this is all of her possessions in the all-important SMP.
[deleted] 9y ago
I like this analogy. I totally would blame the guy!
taracus 9y ago
The worst part is so would most of society:
"You were so drunk you cant even remember what the girl looked like and you let her into your home? Man your a moron, you should really watch how much you drink man !"
[deleted] 9y ago
I agree. If you get so drunk that you can't stop some bitch from robbing you blind, it is kind of your fault.
lurkingtacopiller 9y ago
Seriously. You put yourself in a shit spot, you deserve the repercussions. Male or female, doesn't matter.
[deleted] 9y ago
I've seen more than one sitcom where a scam artist woman gets a guy to come back to her room, ties him to the bed in the name of being kinky, then steals his wallet and leaves.
The attitude of the other characters is always "that suck, but you brought it on yourself".
TyrannyVengeance 9y ago
The reason why they do that is BECAUSE of the feminine imperative. Females know pussy is powerful, and they like to brag that its powerful, but at the same time want to shame those who aren't able to overcome its power. Alpha fucks Beta bucks. The guy in the sitcom who lost his wallet was literally a Beta bucks the only difference between a long term cuck and short term cuck to a BB is initiative and some rope.
vengefully_yours 9y ago
Of course, men have responsibility for their actions, girls do not.
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aanarchist 9y ago
i would blame obama. not cuz its trendy or because it's obama, but because he's black.
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UrsusG 9y ago
Stopped reading there.
Equating sex with theft, i.e. all sex is rape, i.e. SJW/feminist agitprop.
This bullshit was not worth your time to dissect, and it's not worth our time to read.
[deleted] 9y ago
I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught this. Comparing rape to theft is something only a woman could possibly do.
RunawayGrain 9y ago
Also note that she basically compares herself to an Audi. Google her. She's a Dacia Sandero, one of the cheapest cars in Europe, at best. I guess the Sandero driver is actually a little better off, since the Sandero doesn't come with a radio and therefore doesn't inundate the driver with mindless chatter.
UrsusG 9y ago
Not just 'a woman' but 'a woman with a hostile social agenda'
KnowBrainer 9y ago
It's immediately apparent, since after a rape she still has her vagina and after a theft you no longer have your things. Rape is more like using someone's toothbrush without their permission.
Trigger-Me-Daddy 9y ago
In comparing rape to a crime and not making all sex a crime (as with theft), it would be vandalism. You still have your stuff after, its just all fucked up.
[deleted] 9y ago
This is a shitty analogy as anyone without a SJW agenda could tell.
A better analogy is this: "Leaving your very expensive car in a dodgy neighborhood, doors unlocked, keys in". Do you want it stolen? No of course. If it gets stolen, is the thief not to blame? No of course, he's the one who committed the crime. Are you a tiny bit stupid/responsible for what happened? You bet!
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butterfinger7 9y ago
I don't think someone can do that... Unless both people are drunk i guess
bonekeeper 9y ago
If you are drunk and kill someone in the road you are still responsible for your drunken decision of driving. So sure as shit, the same standards should apply to a much more bland "wanna come over to my house?"
butterfinger7 9y ago
Getting killed is not at all like raping someone. You can't just choose to not get hit by a car, but you can sure as shit choose to not have sex with someone while they're drunk.
RedMoonAscendant 9y ago
God, you are legit retarded.
bonekeeper 9y ago
I'm talking about the driver and his decision to drive while drunk and the fact that being drunk does not remove responsibility for his acts and choices, just like a woman that drunkenly decide to have sex with someone is still fully responsible for that decision.
It's not the car's job to decide that the driver is too drunk just like it is not a man's job to think clearly for both him and her (spcially when in most cases the man has drunk as much if not more than the woman).
EmDeeEx 9y ago
I'd simply argue that it is the guys fault. The fuck are you bringing random females home for is you're drunk out of your mind anyway?
[deleted] 9y ago
Right, this is common sense.
But for some weird reason we can't hold women accountable for their actions when they're piss drunk so we avoid them altogether.
If she decides to fuck shit up it's okay boys she's drunk she doesn't know any better but let me do the same and I'm going to get my ass beat.
OmegaMan2 9y ago
Men have regret sex as well. Have you ever been half corked, taken some chick home, banged her and then looked at her in the morning without her makeup? I know there's such a thing as "beer goggles" but to wake up next to a horse, that is a bit much.
Wasn't there a case not too long ago where a fattie was thrown out of university for forcing a guy to have sex with her?
untitled_redditor 9y ago
I've had a girl get me drunk, someone I considered a friend. I did NOT want to have sex with her. Apparently we had sex. Was that rape? If I was a girl, probably.
CornyHoosier 9y ago
Who equates stealing to rape? They are not of equal value.
Let's say I'm walking around at night. Do you think I'm going to walk around with my cell phone in my hand? Fuck no. It'll get stolen. I'm not so stupid as to not know what my situation looks like in public.
But yea, if some drunk guy invited a bunch of people over to his place when he was shit-faced and they stole all his stuff. Pretty much everyone would tell him that was a stupid fucking thing to do. The police would probably even laugh in his face as they wrote the report ... of which they wouldn't investigate a damn thing.
Does this woman actually believe that a man can say this and get off scot free? (changed wording):
A man would be thrown in jail so fast it would make the court's heads spin.
Semi-relevant Side Story:
I came home drunk one night to a guy robbing my place. I mean, I was shit faced. I had to tackle his ass to the ground but thankfully he was on drugs too, so we were both at a disadvantage.
No one helped even though I was yelling for it, the police didn't really care and I never heard any followups from them even though I had video evidence of it. My coworkers laughed at the story the next day and spread it around the office.
LordThunderbolt 9y ago
"A woman's test in life is material. A man's test in life is a woman" - Dave Chappelle
The first analogy she brings up is about money.
ElementArrow 9y ago
"If a man could fuck a women in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house!"
[deleted] 9y ago
You can fuck a woman on a bed of broken AIDs needles if your game is tight enough. Doesn't make it a great idea, but still. Assets are only one aspect of SMV.
[deleted] 9y ago
yeah its funny how this 'feminist rant' completely equates woman's sex with money/possessions.
"you took my sex, just like I'll take your money" basically. lmao
Forcetobereckonedwit 9y ago
Blatant RP theory acknowledgement actually. "Our sex is our only value to trade, therefore rape is the ultimate crime for us, leaving us with no bargaining power." That is the feminine mind. Ever notice that "rape" is the ultimate horror and crime against a female? In reality, it is assault. With "date rape", it is sometimes just sex, and yet...the ultimate shame and horror a woman can feel. (There's that feel word again...sheesh) Guys get into fights here and there. So what. It hurts, you move on. Girl gets into a physical altercation where her vagina/ass/mouth is penetrated without permission and the world is over. Believe me, I get it. Rape is totally wrong and horrid and sometimes positively evil, but let's keep things in perspective. If you weren't beaten, broken, knifed, shot, kidnapped, or otherwise terrorized, then let's keep it real and call it what it really is, "He stuck his xyz in my xyz without my permission." Am I making any sense here...the words are not flowing this evening. Whatevs.
RedBigMan 9y ago
Well that's what society teaches women...
You give up sex then weaponize it to get a ring put on it and then you get CASH AND PRIZES! for kicking his as to the curb a year later.
MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
You wanna make a better analogy.... how about this:
Expensively dressed man walks through a ghetto full of hungry people shouting at every person "I'm gonna give you all my stuff later.. my clothes my watch my money and everything... just gonna have a drink first".
Gets blind drunk, keeps telling his drinking buddy "yup.. gonna give you it all later... look, I'm taking some of it off now and placing it in your lap.... I just love to give away my stuff.... lets go home to your place where I am gonna give you all my stuff...."
Goes home with that person. Next day complains all his shit has been stolen and expects the courts and family and friends to believe him.
Court then says "I know he was shouting about it all night and went home with that person and loves to give his shit away and has previously given all his shit away .... but we believe that at the last minute he changed his mind and totes got actually robbed, and you shouldn't judge him at all for this nor blame him... he said he got robbed when someone else found out who he gave all his shit to, so it must be true because no way he'd ever lie about this to try and get his shit back".
Forcetobereckonedwit 9y ago
ALL THE UPVOTES.
This is precisely the correct analogy. It plays out differently in "our" fucked up world because the vagina is the only thing of value a woman has. It is so totally ingrained in our human psyche that it is almost impossible to get a female to see anything objectively if it strays from that narrative. Even males have to be shown over and over again before they finally see the truth.
MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
Women have been extremely successful at absolving themselves of responsibility for their own safety, while having no responsibility towards others.
She can flout herself, fuck who she wants, claim she was raped when she feels like it.... and everyone supports her: believe victims! (even though they lie) ... don't slut shame! (even though it's easy and destructive to be a slut) ... don't judge her! (even though her behaviour is destructive to herself and to society) ... now shut up and marry her already, she's an independent woman who is entitled to use you as her retirement plan.
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WIDE_420lbs 9y ago
Women are obsessed with rape. It's worrying. Can you imagine thinking about rape that much. It's undoubtedly not purely out of hatred.
thomascoopers 9y ago
But that's because, statistically speaking, a woman has almost 95% chance of getting raped when she's brushing her damned teeth every morning.
Source: fuck you, listen and believe.
shzftw 9y ago
I think here analogy is great. It describes perfectly what happens to men during the divorce rape part of the modern marriage.
You gotta read between the lines guys.
Camberlain 9y ago
I have never met anyone who thinks that its okay to rape a drunk woman against her will. Her story of a drunk man being robbed against his will is ridiculous because it is analogous to a situation everyone agrees is wrong.
I have heard people argue that having sex with a drunk woman who CONSENTS to sex is rape.
The proper analogy would be a woman who goes home with a drunk guy who then WILLINGLY GIVES her some of his stuff. The next day he wakes up and regrets giving his stuff away so he calls the police and accuses her of theft.
gjs628 9y ago
Why don't we just get this over and done with by making every Jury on the planet full of SJW nutcases, and instead of a lengthy trial, we only hear from the victim and then allow the Jury to render a verdict based on how that made them feel.
"So the girl advertised for a 10 man gangbang, hired a film crew to make a porno out of it, she had sex with 10 porn actors, but because the DVD didn't sell well she decided to say they all raped her and she wants $100,000 compensation from each of them instead? Yep sounds totally legit, Feminist Frequency says I should believe her so I do! We find these 10 WHITE MALE RAPIST SCUM guilty!!! What a brave Womyn to come forward and face the rapists that she recruited herself."
This is literally the only way things could get any crazier than they are now, I just hope Sarkeesian doesn't read this post or this will be the next thing she campaigns for.
[deleted] 9y ago
It's called divorce rape and it's legally and socially accepted in western society
Treasure_hand 9y ago
One of my fem friends posted this and I commented I just shoot them and claim they tried to kill me in my own house. Castle doctrine state makes it hard to convict me if there's no witnesses and she's holding something blunt when they get there.
KnowBrainer 9y ago
The point is moot; nobody is trying to invite Alice Brine into their house.
WarmApfelPi 9y ago
The logic fail is that generally people like sex, and no one likes having their shit stolen. /bullshit
IASGame 9y ago
That analogy is bullshit.
This one is much better and I doubt it got as much publicity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ
Funnily enough, googling that, one title I saw was "This woman just explained consent (...)" (see below, no need to click it).
http://www.theloop.ca/this-woman-just-explained-consent-with-the-most-perfect-metaphor/
The voice in two videos I've seen is male, and I suspect whoever came up with the comparison was also a man.
[deleted] 9y ago
You mean like when a black man assaults a cop on video, clearly seen, then gets shot and a national victim movement springs up with the slogan "hands up, don't shoot?"
Our entire society is uninterested in facts. Our education system has been reorganized to devalue critical yhinking and maximize the importance of perception and feelings. Rape accusation is just the most common and effective means to ruin a man's life.
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If a man assaults a police officer the officer has the legal authority to end his life. The case I'm referring to is Mike Brown, who had literally just committed a violent robbery that the cop was responding to and the cop was assaulted upon trying to arrest Brown. You can see it on video. Then this "hands up, don't shoot" bullshit sprung up and evolved into BLM. It is perfectly equivalent to rape accusations spawning movements like "rape culture", "victim blaming" and "slut shaming."
Asserting that these cases are people being "executed while handcuffed" is an outright falsehood. The overwhelming majority of these incidents are the result of active crime commission followed by failure to comply with lawful orders and/or violent resistance. Despite this, every cop who pulls a trigger on a black criminal is now a racist despite whatever facts come to light, just like whatever man is accused of rape will forever be a rapist despite whatever facts come to light. I think it fits quite well.
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I follow this stuff pretty closely. 19/20 these cases turn out to be good shootings. If you assault a LEO, his EOF protocols absolutely give him the authority to end your life if he perceives you as a threat to his. It's the entire reason he carries a firearm.. He carries less than lethal measures which may be employed as dictated per his department's policy, but if you provide a direct threat to that officer's safety, whether real or perceived, he absolutely retains the right to defend himself aggressively through lethal force. The fact of whether the suspect was armed is irrelevant.
I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen video of cops shooting truly subdued and/or compliant suspects.
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I agree with you on your final point, but you're derailing the root discussion because your letting your passion for this issue get in the way.
We are discussing cases where feelings supercede facts in the court of public opinion. This occurs in racial police shootings as well as rape accusations. The factual basis of either is irrelevant; the man is always a rapist and the cop is always a racist in the public ete, regardless of the facts surrounding the case.
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[deleted] 9y ago
This is why many on this sub advocate recording your sexual encounters. Video does not always tell the full store. Context matters.
On the real though, you are hamstering the shit out of the police brutality issue. Just by the language you use you paint a clear picture of personal bias. If I had the time and compulsion, I could break out the FBI stats but it'd be against this sub's rules to do so. Suffice it to say the issue isn't much of an issue at all. And I say that having been beaten by cops while in handcuffs.
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logicalthinker1 9y ago
The best analogy is locking your front door at night. If you leave it open and get robbed, it's still the robber who is responsible but you definitely didn't do anything to prevent it. In fact, you encourage the behavior.
B_Campbell 9y ago
She's just jumping on the bandwagon to promote her career. I find that pretty disgusting. Reminds me of those kids from Columbine who were trying to put out a song. "Uh, this shooting was horrible, here's my demo tape."
flat6turbo 9y ago
i'm an example of why this analogy is stupid as fuck. when i was younger, i had a watch stolen when i was super drunk.
i should have known better, it was pretty fucking stupid, and it was my fault.
i think the reason feminists have a problem with this is they're not in the habit of blaming themselves for anything. it's always someone else's fault.
[deleted] 9y ago
Laws should always be handled by a third, unaffected party. In the same way your personal opinion should carry no more weight then a piece of paper. If you have never been a direct victim of rape, you should not be able to sway laws, and speak on behalf of those who have. Same should apply to robbery, murder, drugs, war. If you don't have a first hand experience, then how strong can your opinion really be? Everyone with an internet connection seems to be a fucking SME these days. What makes it even worse is these are the people being listened to, who are controlling. They have biased opinions, full of second-hand judgement. Let the victims speak, and the unaffected, unbiased judge and decide.
The fact this girl would even compare rape to robbery is painful. All in the favor to attack victim blamers, now you are just diluting the actual crime of rape. Which any sane person can agree is worse then having a watch stolen. /rant
Unholy_VI 9y ago
I think the opposite is true. It's people who have been raped and abused that don't have normal healthy positive attitudes about sex and no, they shouldn't be trying to come up with laws that the rest of us have to follow. But they do by lobbying for really idiotic laws and constantly redifing rape to the point where just about any sex could be considered rape.
After all no politician is going to argue with them unless they don't mind being seen as 'anti-victim' or 'pro rape'.
[deleted] 9y ago
What I was saying was that the law makers and victims should be separate. The victims have priority over second opinionated people in disusing the cases and overall are the main point of evidence when it comes to any change in laws. Those that have been a victim, cannot be part of a vote or the judging/law making parties. If I were trying to draw a line in the sand of what and where rape is defined, personally the only people who should be able to speak are those who have been physically raped[as far as the persecuting party], i.e. force, drugs, blackmail. Anything outside of those perimeters would be a "case by case" basis that would be voted on, and would not affect or be used as evidence for any other case.