When I first saw the infamous You're Fucking A White Male video my initial impulse was to laugh. But the more I thought about it the more I started to wonder: How? How did we get here? Here being a place and time where one white male yells You're a Fucking White Male at another white male unironically and with the support of a crowd. A place where Aids Skrillix is joined by a host of zany characters including but not limited to TrigglyPuff and Melissa Click. Here is a place where Buzzfeed complains to the president of the United States about the evils of meritocracy. How the fuck did we get here?
Before we can understand why this is happening we need to understand what is happening. What does the man known colloquially as Aids Skrillix hope to communicate when he yells You're a Fucking White Male? How is yelling someone's race and gender at them an insult, especially when both parties are white males? If we rely on a literal textual interpretation we get nowhere, therefore we must instead turn to subtext to get to the heart of the issue.
When Aids Skrillix yells You're a Fucking White Male its because he feels guilty for his whiteness and the scrotum between his legs. Years of schooling and media consumption have convinced him and millions of other men that being a self hating emasculated Nu-male is somehow noble. Unfortunately for Nu Males, there are no prizes for beating yourself in the dick while apologizing. Ezra Klein found that out the hard way in college. Women simply do not want to fuck guilt ridden losers. Ezra is so jealous and angry at the bros the do manage to smash puss in college that he wants to punish them for having consensual sex.
Now that we have an understanding of Nu-Male psychology and the problem at hand, we can address the larger issue of how the problem got so out of control. Sometime in the early nineties Generation X started getting suspicious that their children might grow up to be losers. Little Jimmy wasn't scoring goals, doing well on the spelling bee, or living up to his parents fantasy of stellar achievement. Generation Xers has two options they could take the harsh traditional approach of The Greatest Generation and teach their children the importance of work ethic and perseverance. Or they could take the softer approach of preserving little Jimmy's self esteem and telling him that he was wonderful little Jimmy no matter what.
Self esteem became the ultimate 90's buzzword. Newspapers shat out self esteem articles. Parents read those articles and complained to teachers for reprimanding their loser children. The children grew up receiving participation trophies and believing that everyone is equal in a magic unicorn utopia. Unfortunately the magic unicorn utopia never materialized. The real world turned out to be harsh, brutal, unfair and filled with all of The Bio Truths that Grandpa warned of at the dinner table.
Some of us took the Red Pill and joined our grandparents in seeing the world for what it really is. A much larger percentage of millennials dove deeper into fantasy and delusion to shield themselves from reality. The more reality disappointed them, the more delusional and angry they became at anyone who pointed out the obvious. People began denying biology and choosing new genders for themselves. Fats started pretending that they were healthy and eventually ended up believing it. All sorts of freaks and abominations crawled forth as everything was declared relative and normal was abolished in favor of self esteem.
This is how we got to dystopian 2016. This is how we got here. However here is by no means a bad place to be. Every crisis is an opportunity. The west is brimming with self flagellating freaks and there is a high premium for strong men who can get the job done. Winning has never been this easy because all Nu-male millennials know how to do is lose. Be the asshole who gets the girl, the job, the promotion so they can live their fantasy of being the good loser.
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5t3fan0 9y ago
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder.
Betterthanuatlife 9y ago
Another philosophically stimulating post by GayLubeOil
Atlas-XIII 9y ago
No..People like those should exist so we have something to laugh at when a remix like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa-7a2gLDjI drop and humiliate them..
AgisIII 9y ago
There is never been a easier time in history to win. The competition right now sucks.
Thelyckyfrour 9y ago
Feminism is creating a society of sluts. Thus, naturally there are enough sluts for everyone.
However, it also means there won't be enough good women around for men to have their children with.
[deleted] 9y ago
I don't feel pride with most females I'm with because of this very fact. Growing up, there was always more of a fear that my girl would be balls deep if I left the room. We stupidly told worthless females they could be anything, including the prostitute president of the United States. False, purity matters. Men care about these things. Females don't want to wrap their head around this cold fact. Instead they continue to demand we accept every piece of retard diarrhea that comes out of their mouth, though.
jav253 9y ago
Yeah I agree. It's a great time to be alive if you enjoy sleeping around with sluts. A bad one if you actually want the traditional family life. That is a wife who hasn't had multiple dicks in her who wont divorce you, after the first or second kid.
[deleted] 9y ago
Enough sluts for everyone?
You realize even sluts are fucking the same 15% of men right?
Hypergamy means I get to fuck eight and little Jimmy hates his dick get none.
AgisIII 9y ago
But nowadays is easier to get to that 20% of men. If you exercise regularly and follow a healthy diet, you just surpassed more than 50% of guys.
[deleted] 9y ago
My dude if you just are honest and act like a man you're ahead of 80% of men.
Act like a sexist, chauvinistic caveman and you're going to beat out the competition most of the tme
Thelyckyfrour 9y ago
Enough sluts for everyone in the sense that it's very easy to get your dick because women are slutting it up a lot more than what they used to in the past and feminism/single motherhood destroyed a good amount of your masculine competitors in the game anyways. There are enough sluts for anyone who isn't a Beta faggot.
I'm sure each and every one of them are riding different CEO/10k a day Chadley Chads dick every single day.
[deleted] 9y ago
You'd be wrong.
You could look up dating statistics, get a Tinder and find out yourself, or trust my empirical evidence of years in nightclub work.
Women fuck the same dudes over and over and over, it's the danger of hypergamy and why every religion has fought against it for ever
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sqerl 9y ago
Little Jimmy gets the sluts that want to have kids after they've hit the wall. Trouble is, he doesnt get all 8. He gets 1, she gets pregnant, he gets a kid, and she's back with you on girls night out.
[deleted] 9y ago
And he thinks that's how life is supposed to work.
And Little Susie Suck A Dick is miserable and swallowing pills trying to understand why she's 30 and can only date losers.
[deleted] 9y ago
That's harsh and real. I'd love to share it with people but refuse.
[deleted] 9y ago
You don't have to, but I do.
I have to be honest with people even if it makes them hate me.
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You see it everywhere. I had a 8 who is a friends wife's cousin (who has 2 kids and is divorced but still 28 and attractive enough to be a solid 8) attempt to play the virgin queen card a month ago. Oh the only man I was ever with a\was my ex husband, he was my first everything, etc.
I personally know people who claim to have had her while she was married and while I'm not inclined to believe all of them there is enough evidence to suggest she is just your typical slut approaching the wall with baggage.
Women are hypergamous after all and men should be mindful.
smokecheck1976 9y ago
Balderdash and nonsense. Ever notice that you can always find a way to slice that 15% where you aren't in it? Maybe you don't have the looks. Maybe you go the looks but you don't have much money. Maybe you got looks and money, but your personality is such an entitled shit that no one wants anything to do with you. Some way or another you are on the outs.
Always remember this: Right now, there is a guy that has a good job, dresses well, is physically fit, and a fun guy to be around is wondering why he is alone. Right now, there is a heroin addict that crashes in his grandma's basement, and barely manages to play guitar in a band two nights a week is getting his dick sucked by a "high SMV" chick.
Hypergamy isn't as real as the ability to make a chick feel special. These days with half the male population strung out on porn or video games, it really can't be much easier for guys that aren't.
[deleted] 9y ago
Do you know me? Have you read any of my writings?
I'm not fit---working on it but not there yet---my job isn't luxurious, I'm pretty handsome but nothing crazy, and every day from 2010-2015 I fucked girls all of you would consider out of my league weekend after weekend.
I'd see millionaires in 5000 dollar suis go home alone while my sexist, caveman self would be disgusted at how far a woman's ass could stretch.
This is wrong. This is why I stopped. I'm tired of it. The women to slut ratio is just like the Nigga to Black Man ratio: completely skewed in one direction so heavily that there might as well be no difference anymore.
612magxl 9y ago
"Nigga to Black Man ratio:... might as well be no difference" This is what I've been thinking for a long time now but could never find the words to describe my jumbled thoughts. I'd also be more interested in hearing more on both the nightclub tales and "caveman self."
[deleted] 9y ago
I usually look down on Internet stalking but this is for research
Click on my name and just go diving to the bottom
TryDoingSomethingNew 9y ago
I for one would love to hear some of your stories. Especially the details of how you behaved around and treated women, basically the details of what was different about you vs. other men.
No exaggeration, I would be thrilled to hear some of the stories.
[deleted] 9y ago
Stories From The Nightclub
i do a general series on my experiences
TryDoingSomethingNew 9y ago
Where is that at? You mean here or do you have a blog?
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[deleted] 9y ago
agreed. but the way our mother's and other women have told us to proceed is bollocks.
smokecheck1976 9y ago
No, they are half right. The problem is the half that isn't right. Thinking that a guy can be that perfect man, with no needs and no desire, is no way to attract anyone.
Game can almost be said to be willing to try and be at the right place at the right time and being willing to communicate.
AgisIII 9y ago
True. Depends on your definition of winning.
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jackandjill22 9y ago
Wouldn't say that. It's a Fucking snake-pit; everyone wants out.
[deleted] 9y ago
This is so fucking accurate it's disgusting.
It's the reason I try to build other men up. Iron sharpens Iron, I want to find the lions and run with them, not be the king of the pathetic fucks.
Darkwoodz 9y ago
Depends what the competition is in.
fillymandee 9y ago
Seriously, what's with this "boo-hoo, society sucks, cry baby" attitude some people have here? Are transgendered people affecting you? If so, you're a pussy. Get the fuck off the internet and live for yourself. Or sit around and wait to die. I got no horse your pathetic race so I'll get up everyday and do whatever I want because fuck you. People like you only have problems and don't want to hear solutions.
[deleted] 9y ago
Even realizing it is possible to improve yourself puts you ahead of the majority.
AgisIII 9y ago
For sure. Just by understanding the core of TRP theory
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Godtiermasturbator 9y ago
It's not even cheat codes. It's pointing out that 2016 Earth is Easy Mode if you merely embrace your natural male instincts instead of handcuff yourself like feminism tells you to.
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XXXmormon 9y ago
Just because you cuffed yourself to gaylubeoil doesn't mean he is. Following him to other subs to talk shit like this.
Go home to mommy.
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staggerman 9y ago
I guess someone has to fuck the big "beautiful" women.
dr_warlock 9y ago
Top comment in white male video
White guilt is for pussies. Expect an article on that.
NightwingTRP 9y ago
I look forward to it. I fuckin' hate that dumb shit.
Overkillengine 9y ago
How dare you not be ashamed of what a bunch of people with the same skin color as you that you had no control over did years, decades, and even centuries before any of us were even born!
/s tag for the autistic
ManowaR1488 9y ago
I think if someone yelled You're a fucking white male to me, I'd say thank
godOdin for that.centurySeries 9y ago
Shameless product placement doesn't belong here.
FeeFeeFeaster 9y ago
To the point where they now lose their shit over Facebook denying an ad of Tess Holiday wearing a bikini, rightfully saying the ad "depicts a body... in an undesirable manner."
Facebook says its advertising may not "show excessive amounts of skin or cleavage". Yeah, she's got plenty of excess skin.
Swallowed_the_pill 9y ago
Not only fat people but everyone who are self inflictedly 'weak'. Whetever it is because they are fat, have poor grades, are addicted to something, bad with people etc... They blame everyone else and sit on their ass doing nothing to change it.
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Dookiestain_LaFlair 9y ago
Look at that porker, now I want barbecue.
FeeFeeFeaster 9y ago
Looking at her actually makes me lose my appetite, but to each his own...
Remember the part in Se7en where Kevin Spacey's character says, "If you saw him in public, you wouldn't be able to finish your meal." That kind of effect.
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I think he meant he wants to cannibalize her.
Dookiestain_LaFlair 9y ago
Her flabby arms make me think of barbecued pork, and her fat shoulders remind me of baby back ribs. In fact, I could imagine her cutting parts of her fat off and slathering it in barbecue sauce like this pig
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bustedcougar 9y ago
You guys are recognizing the symptoms of the problem but you still haven't grasped the source. There is another Red Pill to take.
Whisper 9y ago
TRP is not your personal army.
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SinisterSwindler 9y ago
That is the solution but it won't happen unfortunately.
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hores 9y ago
To start, try the Talmud.
Most jews have been cucked by Zionism though. Synagogue of Satan, not true jews.
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redestofthereds 9y ago
They say it talks a lot of shit about Jesus.
Red_August 9y ago
Just want to point out that it is the "me" generation - the baby boomers - that started the whole child over-coddling thing. It is from this narcissistic generation that was spawn the next wave of uber-narcissists that is the Gen Y/millenial spawn.
GenX is defined by being sandwiched in between these two very populous generations - it is why the term was coined.
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It has.
All female mammals, regardless of their species (from everything to a tiny bat up to a whale), go through a period of fertility and increased arousal called estrus. In humans, this is often known as the ovulation period. In every single other mammal species, estrus is outwardly visible and characterized by physical changes and behavioral changes. Often this is in the form of a massive release of pheromones, or in the cases of other apes, physical changes such as the engorgement and changing in color of the buttocks.
However, the only mammalian species in which the females do not visibly manifest signs of estrus is Homo sapiens. The reason for this is that human females evolved to conceal their estrus, as it better allowed them to cuck their partners without them knowing. You can google "evolution of concealed estrus in humans" and there are countless scientific studies and articles that verify this.
Also, mitochondrial testing of early humans from 50,000+ years ago show that only a fraction of the male population actually reproduced, and that the few members that did reproduce had an average of 17 children. Basically, AF/BB has been programmed into us from hundreds of thousands of years ago. There is no overcoming such programming. That's like telling a cow not to eat grass. I'll try to look for the study that I saw this little tidbit from.
Copenhagen23 9y ago
Greater than half of women on Tinder are in a romantic relationship and 40% are married. On the other hand, only a third of men are reportedly in a relationship and 23% are married.
http://nextshark.com/tinder-30-percent-of-users-married-women-cheat/
Il128 9y ago
It's gotten worse since I last looked. Nice.
bostonburrito 9y ago
This analysis makes me wonder how the next generation will fare, generation Y's children. Will there be enough of a global awakening to result in a restoration of traditional values over "progressiveness"?
backdoorbum 9y ago
gen z guy here (half arab half white)
honestly its not that bad
I'm a have large social group and could say with some confidence that most lean conservative
of course there are there a the liberals but they have really just been indoctrinated by their surroundings and parents (NOVA)
thats only really anecdotal evidence at a really small scale
so cant really tell
PIGamer86 9y ago
They'll be more worried about electrolytes.
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vengefully_yours 9y ago
It's not so much traditional values as much as it's doing what works and achieves the results you want. Some traditions are beneficial, others not so much, doing it the same way because that's how we have always done it is stupid if there is a better way, a method to improvement. Changing things just to change shit without a benefit or improvement is just as stupid. Improve to things that work, built upon what already works.
PaperStreetVilla 9y ago
This is it, in a great summary.
It takes more work than following a life script, but the life scripts you are told are either someone elses strategy (at your expense) or outdated by modern society. It's why Bruce Lee became the modern hero of martial arts.
Do what works, shed what doesn't. Know what you want, and move towards it. "Wisdom of Psychopaths" has even gone so far as to mention some psycopathy being a way of mentally staying healthy in modern society.
Have a goal, work towards it, disregard all else.
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dissentforall 9y ago
Especially when you invite them and prop them up on the welfare system. I mean shit..they don't even have to kill us off outright like in the old days. They'll just outbreed us and the women will happily take part because that's what they do.
drallcom3 9y ago
On the other hand the birth rate of westernized immigrants goes down dramatically after a few generations. Add some social unrest and welfare cutbacks and the whole picture could change again.
Whatever happens, being financially secure has always been good in history. Being able to simply turn your back and walk away is going to be so good.
improvingme63 9y ago
We will be that culture. Blind to skin color. Just men. Granted of course we aren't stripped of the right to free thought or castrated...
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marinewannabee97 9y ago
June 4th march with pegida. By sitting at home you allow it to happen.
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KorianHUN 9y ago
The romans probably saw it too. The barbarians slowly took over them and in no time their leaders were the puppets of the enemy. They saw it but nothing can be done when it gets out of hand so fast.
CMDR_MBISON 9y ago
Getting ahold of firearms in some european countires is easier said than done.
KorianHUN 9y ago
In Europe not just getting a gun is hard, but simply strangling the knife wielding attacker could get YOU to jail.
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FillingInTheSkanks 9y ago
There will be an awakening, a counter culture will rise, the masses will co-opt it, Kurt Cobain will blow his brains out, and then pop music will return grosser than ever before
That_Deaf_Guy 9y ago
I remember learning about Nietzsche's Ubermench (sp?) in my film class. Interesting stuff.
rmnfcbnyy 9y ago
Isn't Nietzsche's last man necessarily precipitated by his übermensch? Meaning the übermensch will have successfully transformed humanity at that point, leaving the last man of the prior generation of human thinking to die? We could only be so blessed - as witnesses - in this scenario.
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Project_Thor 9y ago
Terence Mckenna had what he called archaic revival, essentially a return to Paleolithic Era Values based off that a Culture in crisis returns to the last time it wasn't in crisis.
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THERPRP 9y ago
Shroomer here too. I also recommend Island by Huxley. Not so psychedelic focused but still a great book.
Project_Thor 9y ago
I don't believe they are so far apart, quote from somewhere... The Shaman is the one that understands Culture to be a game.
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 9y ago
Perhaps when Sharia Law starts seriously affecting white women in Europe there will be a small awakening.
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Nah, the cucks will throw their arms up and surrender or die. Our men have been brainwashed into believing that battle is an evil scary thing.. theyll probably celebrate that it's finally their turn to be "marginalized".. fucking pussies.
marinewannabee97 9y ago
Well, I'll either be dead, or speaking polish by then.
ChadThundercockII 9y ago
It's Sharia, not Sharia Law. Sharia and Law mean the same thing.
kotaku-vs-the-world 9y ago
The distinction definitely matters for the purposes of a sexual strategy forum
ChadThundercockII 9y ago
Imagine seeing people walking around saying "the constitution law". That's how dumb it sounds regardless of the context.
kotaku-vs-the-world 9y ago
... to people that speak arabic. Your personal subjective reactions to words don't really matter/aren't even necessarily reflective of that of others etc
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Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 9y ago
Do you think feminists will get moist when white women are stoned in the streets for not wearing head coverings?
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idiocraties 9y ago
I am not so sure. I have read both Wafa Sultan and Hirsi Ali and both seem to paint a picture of Muslim men as violent and self assured, but actually quite beta. Mrs Sultan recounts anecdotes where many muslim men got into an argument with her only to rapidly wilt against her logic.
Yes, western men are effeminate fags, but as more and more western men learn game and get red pilled, they will recover sufficient levels of masculinity. The shortcomings (to female eyes) of muslim men will be all the more obvious. Lack of verbal dexterity, lack of humour, lack of earning potential, lack of intellect, - women will not flock en masse to these men with such shortcomings.
Heartiste said it before, that the white men are the right mix of alpha and beta and thats why they are essentially top of the SMV pyramid.
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 9y ago
I have wondered why it is that with the threat of acid attacks and stoning from even her own family why some Muslim women still cheat. Not even counting those that were raped. The ones who voluntarily spread their legs knowing it could cost her life.
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"It won't happen to me"
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KorianHUN 9y ago
They surely are. I saw them at our border (as a volunteer for one day) and they are truly weak. One strong guy (not physically, he was a thin average guy) screamed at them to pick up their trash and they obeyed him. Or once a guy started doing shit and screaming at us to give them food faster, they did it too.
It is like a herd doing what the loudest one says.
Also, most of these were not from Syria, but from Africa or Afghanistan, Pakistan where this behavior is the norm in their tribes.
recoveringPHPDev 9y ago
It will become more real when it actually starts happening in Europe. Kinda like how they cared about all the women who were sexualy assaulted in Germany... Oh, wait.
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LOL and then European men dressed up in skirts to protest.
Meanwhile in Russia the harassers and rapists got sent to the hospital.
CMDR_MBISON 9y ago
It sickens me to watch what is happening in europe... At least here in Poland people are very skeptical of accepting immigrants. I just hope the people in power don't fuck us up as much as the rest of europe.
Swallowed_the_pill 9y ago
As someone living in Europe the bad part really isn't the immigrants. It's how the goverment and media handles everything revolving around them. It's horrible. They don't give the immigrants any requirments, as that would be racist. They shove the bad stuff they do under the rug(like the Cologne mass rapes). They let them roll all over us with their culture and they don't even try to integrate them. The ones who get integrated do so because of their want so themselves. Imagine if the goverment and media did the same to everone else. They would act exactly the same way, capitalizing on SJW's stupidness, getting free money, free food and free everything by doing nothing.
ChadThundercockII 9y ago
I thought the RP was about unveiling the truth. What you are doing is repeating colonialist propaganda. A woman in a Muslim country won't be stoned for not wearing head coverings, not even in Saudi Arabia. A half-naked woman however would be shamed to death.
Edit: Stoning doesn't exist in Sharia. Flogging is what was reserved for adultery and homosexuality.
Re-asses your paradigm
Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 9y ago
Stoning, flogging, choking, etc.. What is the difference? They all cause damage. You sound like "no true feminist would do such a thing.."
ChadThundercockII 9y ago
Stoning will most certainly kill the person. Flogging will leave some marks but the chances of someone committing the same offense become slim. Leniency is weakness.
ChadThundercockII 9y ago
Stoning will most certainly kill the person. Flogging will leave some marks but the chances of someone committing the same offense become slim. Leniency is weakness.
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For most white non Jewish males, they believe being proud to be white is some kind of allegiance with the devil and would rather get caught being anything else. God forbid you get called a "racist" or a "nazi." It's programming and it goes deeper than most people want to look.
The antidote is to go ahead and be proud to be white. You have to own who you are at every level.
ChildOfTheLostTribes 9y ago
As a Haitian, I want to make it clear that WHITE men accepted that. You don't go from owning people and land to feeling guilty about yourself unless you allow it.
TemplesOfSyrinx 9y ago
I'm about as proud of being white as I am proud of being left-handed, having brown hair or large feet.
I am proud of a lot of things, though, don't get me wrong. But the things I'm proud of are things I've worked for or done for myself. Being a Caucasian male was just a roll of the dice.
merkucjo 9y ago
It's different in Eastern Europe, maybe what you are saying is Western Europe or thing
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Don't you know it's only racist IF you ARE white?
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Non-Jewish white, you mean. Lol...
Would you believe there was a time when "racist" did not automatically connote "bad/evil" in every single Western mind that heard it? For many, it used to be a neutral word that meant you saw and understood racial differences.
How do you like that? "Don't be racist" is akin to saying "Don't see the differences." Personally I think that's disrespectful to people that really are different than you, it's its own branch of solipsism. White Americans are brainwashed into being racially solipsistic, not racially ethnocentric mind you because that would imply whites are capable of understanding "whites" and most whites are not. What I mean by racially solipsistic is the belief that, "I'm sure this other person is going to be just like me, and if he's not he eventually will be or want to be." As though you automatically assume you have the higher IQ and you feel that you're superior. What if that isn't true, how would you know? What if that other guy has different values that you, how would you know? Solipsism is worse than ethnocentrism because it goes beyond believing "we are all the same," instead it's "everybody is like me." That couldn't be more naive. And the only way you can begin to understand how racially solipsistic you've been is to unplug and start to study the situation. Other races are usually ahead of the game and are at least racially ethnocentric, meaning they have an understanding of themselves, where they come from, and their own race. American whites, especially the more liberal they are, aren't even at a reasonable baseline of racial common sense. Well, there's more to it than the categories you see on EEOC questionnaires.
Whether you want to date women your own race or date interracially, lack of racial common sense is going to both complicate and handicap your dating life.
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Every race has the right to be proud of their race.
useyourmouth 9y ago
You don't even have to only focus on whiteness, per se. Learn about and be proud of your own personal heritage. Learn about your ancestors and the badasses in your family tree. Pass that shit down to your kids, teach them family lore.
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It'll come around to your whiteness somewhere along the line. You can't escape yourself. And for what it's worth, you may want to find out how whites are not like all the other races. Most whites don't even know what makes them different. Specifically because they're told "we're all the same." Whites are the first to be fooled about it.
peruvianlurker 9y ago
I'm curious about that, why are white different, what are their perks, natural talents?
Project_Thor 9y ago
I'm a 6'2'' White Male. Any in person Sales is a joke.
Edit: I should add, Blonde Hair, Blue Eyes.
CQC3 9y ago
What the fuck is this Skyrim?
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I couldn't possibly spell it all out here. Best sources for this are in various corners on YouTube. Ideally, you want to look for a variety of information about it similar to how we study women on TRP. If you're white, it's part of "knowing thyself" and I think it's hugely important.
Here is a Red Ice Radio show to get you started though.
peruvianlurker 9y ago
Thanks, appreciate the info, will use properly.
grubek 9y ago
I do not get being proud of being white. It is stupid to be ashamed, but proud? I find equally stupid of a black person proud of being black.
Yes, I have some genetics and cultural lineage but I am just some person trying to make it on life, and the dude over there has a different lineage, but he is also trying to get a good life.
I do not get it, specifically what am I supposed to feel proud about because of my race?
MrGudmoore 9y ago
You can be proud of who you are, which includes your race, without being racist.
It's when you believe all other races are inferior and when you start to make excuses for others of your race, is when you've become a racist.
CQC3 9y ago
I think that is because race and culture are or at least were in the past almost completely overlapped and almost one in the same. So when speaking of race you essentially were thinking about culture as well.
Nowadays it is still important but the two are more separate. For example, if you're an asian male growing up in the US and have never been back to Japan or Korea or whatever, you're more or less within the spectrum of American culture, regardless of how "counter culture" you might even be. So you're Asian, but culturally American.
It's probably more concise to say that if you were African you might be proud to be from X place or tribe.
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Well said.
Every group of people has warriors, history, people they've conquered, people they have been conquered by, hot women, etc.
KNOW YOURSELF.
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Sort of agree.. being proud of having white skin is an asinine concept.. but pride of your nationality is good in my book. Keeps the culture alive.
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If you don't study it and get to know your race, it'd be impossible. So in a way, you don't have to worry about it. You quite literally have to apply yourself like you apply yourself to studying TRP. It's a choice.
FYI, there are subreddits related to "white."
grubek 9y ago
It is not for lack of studying. It is that I do not get what you have to feel proud about for things other people did.
Burger_Fingers 9y ago
Dude, he said the antidote of the War on white maleness is to own it and be proud.
It's not about arguing what the pride is for, it's about taking the attack away from those bigoted cunts.
Pride in something other than your own achievement still exists and is there because of some biological and/or societal reason. You may not "get it" but it won't make texans apologize for being better than other people, and it won't make sports fans admit that their team sucks. So trying to start this whole debate is a waste of time and misses the point originally intended.
grubek 9y ago
I honestly do not see your point. I do not see how to fight the stupid war on whites you need to also go stupid. Ridicule, laugh, ignore... the cultural marxists and their stupid shaming tactics, but you still have to make something on your own so you can feel proud about it. I do not get feeling proud of something someone else did.
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dudet23 9y ago
Ya cause you have been cucked by the media that we are all individuals whose lives are totally divorced from the actions of your ancestors.
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So you've never felt vicarious pride for the actions of someone else?
grubek 9y ago
Yes, and I learned not to do it and use my energy for myself.
Burger_Fingers 9y ago
Well first of all, we can't have this argument when you think this type of pride is "going stupid". You will not grasp my point because of your previously held notions of undeserved pride.
I'm not asking you to "get" anything. Why should a sports fan have pride in the nearest team? It seems arbitrary. But it's common enough to at least admit that it's a part of the human experience: somewhere along the way, we seemed to think tribal pride was a successful strategy for stable societies.
There is no inherent harm in pride, except when outsiders challenge the pride: then egos will duel it out.
My argument is this: Don't apologize for being yourself. Own it. Be proud. You are a part of groups that you didn't choose, and if someone is unjustifiably intolerant of that group, and that intolerance (bigotry) starts to grow in society, I believe one way to stop the growth is to own your identity, and start to spread the opposite of their intolerance.
grubek 9y ago
Sure own your own identity, but my identity is not being white. I am white the same way I have brown eyes or curly hair. That is what you get in the genetic lottery, not something you accomplished. Be happy about the good you got, try to minimize the bad, I agree never apologize, use your cards to the maximum, but feeling proud for something you did nothing to get?
Also, you can feel respect and admiration for your own culture and what your ancestors built for you to use. But I believe that once you start feeling proud for what others did it takes energy away from accomplishing your own. You have no right to feel proud of anything until you do it.
To me feeling proud of your race or your culture is like the rich brat that feels proud of being born rich and doing nothing. If you are born rich, do not apologize or feel shame, and use it, but you should push it farther and improve on what you were given, then you get to feel proud of what you have accomplished. But not before. Does that make sense?
Burger_Fingers 9y ago
Oh, and you may not identify as white, but every person who isn't blind will judge you as white. So think your thoughts, believe your beliefs, and enjoy distorting reality for your own mental masturbation.
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Burger_Fingers 9y ago
It makes sense, it already has, and always will.
I'm not arguing why it's GOOD to have this pride or that it should even be real.
I'm just arguing that it has value as a response to the bigotry of others. Black pride, gay pride, etc. these movements have their value and achieved goals based on group identities. I don't give a fuck what you believe. The facts are such that pride and unity of a group can get shit done. It isn't about white pride, with all its bad connotations, it's about "fuck anybody that hates me, and watch what your hate does: nothing but makes me laugh"
Does that make sense, sweetheart?
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Losers are proud of things they didn't accomplish themselves because they have no source of pride in their own lives
Burger_Fingers 9y ago
That's painting with broad strokes while name calling. You've given nothing to the discussion.
Come with an actual idea worthy of discussion or you might disclose the smallness of your capacity to understand another's experience
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Anyone that pretends like their ancestors or their race's accomplishments are somehow associated with their own life is a pathetic creature with no real accomplishments and desperately wants to barnacle themselves on the ship of other's greatness. If you create a legacy and a real life worthy of praise you don't pretend like need some nonsense to claim too
Burger_Fingers 9y ago
Really?
Slow down, breath, calm down. You're just hurling insults based on your idea of what racial pride can be.
I'm proud of where I come from and what's made me who I am. I'm proud of who I've grown to be and the accomplishments I've made. And nothing you've said describes me.
You feel you're on the moral high ground, acting as the righteous voice against ignorance and bigotry, but you fail to maintain any credibility with petty name calling and made up bullshittery.
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Nah. Every dog whistling white pride dude I've read or known wants to play like they're viking warriors because their great uncle was a farm hand in Sweden.
Burger_Fingers 9y ago
Interesting, I've not known white pride to be about Vikings or anything non-Anglo. Typically I've only known redneck racists wearing confederate flags yelling about niggers.
But, that shit isn't pride to me, that's hate. The Viking stuff seems cool, but I don't make the cut, I'm all Anglo with a little Cherokee: maybe I'll take up rain dancing or scalping whites
goemon45 9y ago
I don't mind being proud of your heritage but that doesn't mean you have to be a dickhead to all the other races on your planet because of it.
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There is a logical fallacy somewhere that somehow once you're "prideful" you're going to turn into a dick, and from there it's somehow a slippery slope to becoming a homicidal maniac.
Self-esteem is one of the most important things you have, and you should be able to piece it together with all of the basic things about you. Feeling good about yourself will not turn you into a homicidal maniac, I promise.
How many self-help gurus tend to put a cap on just how happy you should become? "Don't get carried away..." they say. As if being too happy and feeling good about yourself is a one-way ticket to becoming the devil incarnate. Makes no sense.
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Yes, it's logical - you're part of a "tribe," and a team. You came from somewhere, and there is a heritage behind that. I'm a believer in evolutionary psychology as well. (Some are not and see it as a sketchy soft science. Others instantly hate it because it's non-PC.) Evolutionary psych would suggest that your strengths, weaknesses, tendencies, and propensities are all going to be something of a shared trait within a tribe, and if you extrapolate outward - your race as well.
People don't like this because unfortunately not all races come to the table with "assets." There may indeed be some things you might not necessarily be proud about as well - it's your choice. But I say it's good to know what those things are so you can work on those things. It's like the "fiery Latina syndrome" Schwarzenegger mentioned and took heat for. The Latina in question, had she known her race and gender tendencies she could take measures to counteract her behavior if she wanted. There wasn't much point in denying those traits existed, of course the media seized on it because it sells clickbait ads. Shill and feigning shock sells.
My motto is know yourself, own yourself, and take responsibility. Decide what you like and dislike, the things you want to accentuate, and things you want to mitigate. It's all part of you. If you want to be a PUA or simply find a basic girlfriend, you want to be in a position where you feel good about yourself and you need to see what you already have going for you. You simply aren't going to do as well if you don't have a good self-esteem and a good sense of pride.
goemon45 9y ago
That's all well and good. What I was trying to say was I don't mind white people being proud or wanting to more about their cultures the way other races do. I actually think its unfair that whites get shamed and stigmatized because they want to learn about their culture. However I have a problem where I feel like its either a white person is ashamed of being white and pushes all that white privilege shit to other people or you have another white person who is proud of being white but thinks that being white somehow makes them a better person by defult. Especially on reddit which is already extremely smug about things. A lot of the subbreddits like white rights while touching on issues that indeed negatively impact the white race they do this while having a condensending aditude towards other races. And not to mention the typical "Jew cuck dindo" memes.
Burger_Fingers 9y ago
Those concerns you have are not present in this conversation.
You've said whites are either pussies or assholes and don't seem to allow for rational respect for the idea that someone could be anywhere in between. Or completely outside of those extremes.
Pride doesn't imply that that which isn't characteristically similar, mustn't be as good. Trying to define somebody's pride (that you don't intimately know) only serves to expose your own prejudices (no connotations implied, good or bad).
All it says is that the individual is able to find a source a gladness/positively contentedness in themselves, in any aspect of their identity which they can choose to acknowledge and use to motivate their feelings (for better, or worse, or neutral), and potentially find others with similar motivations (doesn't have to be the same pride) to achieve a common goal.
I really think this argument about pride stems from connotations people are bringing to the argument and defending those prejudices without listening to rational thoughts. Look at pride on Wikipedia an realize that pride means more than groups being assholes.
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prodigy2throw 9y ago
Yo whatever happened to ciswhitemaelstrom. Dude vanished out of nowhere.
iamz3ro 9y ago
Just imagine this though: If we can open the eyes of enough men, there is a decent chance that they next generation will have vastly more alpha males than we have now. The beta's will die off without ever even smelling a pussy, and the world will move on. The cycle of life.
jdgalt 9y ago
The trouble with that vision is that being alpha isn't heritable, it's learned. The alphas can sire all the sons they want on other men's wives, but most of those boys will grow up to be beta because the man they call daddy is a beta.
iamz3ro 9y ago
That's what I meant. Alphas will teach their sons to be Alphas.
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Alanranks7 9y ago
The fact that some can put in the bare minimum and do exceptionally well is astounding. It's like showing up and going through the motions alone makes you much more valuable. We have fallen so low.
Spiral-knight 9y ago
I maintain "The West" (and dear god how I hate the way the deluded brandy the term about like a curse) has reached a rome-tier peak. Tumblr, this new age and all of its myriad flaws are the result of the human species reaching a point where we have the time, freedom and safety to go from normal to hedonism and now into degenerate excess.
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Nathaniel Branden. Ayn Rand's boo? Lol
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Plain and simple marxist programming AND, the most important one, feminism. When you have the worthless sex making men second class citizens you get the Nordic countries/EU.
I, in a way, am actually glad for it because with how retarded women are by genetics they'll find out the hard way that neutering males is bad. Look at the chaos going on over there yet the marxist retards/feminists (but I repeat myself) continue protesting about retarded shit like veganism.
It sucks indeed masculinity is abhorred HOWEVER there are certain sects where it still matters to do MAN SHIT like hunting.
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Competition --
I am in what many consider to be a fairly difficult field in which to stand out. I am also by nature a "B+" type - just enough GPA to get to the next step... because putting in the extra work for an A proved to not get me the A in most situations growing up.
And yet, my B+ personality / tenancies are getting me the recognition, respect and $$ of an "A"
Sad
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It can all be traced to the insanity of the social sciences. Genderfluidity started with John Money who was so convinced of his theories that he did just one case and stopped monitoring the kid at age 4. What followed for him was publications and circlejerk congratulations. The problems with the kid started a few years later that culminated in suicide.
The social justice shit can be traced to the Frankfurt school (just open the link and read the 20ish words that say what their goals are) and socialism which is, consequently, why you don't take in refugees from countries that have ideological war happening there (something my country should look into).
Basically America took in idiotic intellectuals from Germany who were persecuted for being both "degenerate" and Jewish and gave them tenure. They were so socialist they were later aided by the KGB (also, compare those named in Vanona papers with the hippy douche professors of the 60s onwards).
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I have read most of your stuff. This is easily your best piece in my opinion. You must be breaking through a personal barrier at the moment because it is reflected in the refinement of your style in this post. The funny part is you are using hyperbole at the end, maybe to keep up the illusion of the red pill boogeyman.
There is no need to even be an asshole anymore. Men in the west are now so emasculated that the bad boy routine is not even necessary. All you need is a healthy, fit body, solid frame, abundance mentality and some very basic game and you are so far ahead of the crowd that you can be a nice guy and still get laid. Pook had it right when he said do not be the asshole or the nice guy. Neither is required to be highly successful with women. It is funny that the red pill is suddenly the boogeyman when all it does is strip back illusions and restore normality. Being normal now makes those afraid of you think that you are an asshole.
tuxidomasx 9y ago
just gonna leave this here
White Supremacy vs. White Privilege
DarthRoach 9y ago
I think there is more going on with our friend (((Ezra))), than just his inability to get laid.
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CopperFox3c 9y ago
The greatest misconception of progressives and SJWs and Feminists is their belief that everyone can win. There is no such thing as a win-win scenario ... there are always winners and losers. That is the harsh truth of life. And thus efforts to empower the weak, to make everyone a winner, merely drag down the strong ... i.e. they breed mediocrity. The goal then is not to help everyone win, but to turn yourself into a winner. The real irony is that being the best version of yourself benefits everyone.
When we seek to empower the weak, we in turn empower no one.
rp_phoenix 9y ago
Amen to that last sentence, brother.
Late30sMasculist 9y ago
Wut? Do you really believe that? Every consensual economic transaction that happens is win-win. If a pair of shoes is worth $60 to me, and I buy the shoes for $50, then I win. The shoe seller also wins because he values the shoes at less than $50. You're making a fundamental error.
CopperFox3c 9y ago
If you wanna refer to it as degrees of winning, I suppose you can. In your scenario, the clear winner is the shoe manufacturer and whoever owns it, who are making millions of dollars selling shoes to schlubs who think they got a good deal by saving $10 on them. I guess you can argue the shoe seller also "won", because maybe they made a little money, and the buyer "won" cause they saved a little money.
If you want to label each of them as "winner" to varying degrees, you can do so ... but I see them as winners and losers. I mean, you could also erroneously argue that blue-pull beta males "win" by getting the used-up party girl in her 30's after she hops off the carousel ...
I work with a lot of entrepreneurs and start-up investors, and one thing all these rich dudes teach their sons from an early age is that working for someone else is always a losing proposition. Sure, you'll make a little money, but they will always make more. If you wanna be successful and free, start your own thing, captain your own ship.
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IMO you shouldn't have bothered trying to respond, they were bringing up an exception, sure, but that doesn't mean you weren't right about winners and losers as a general principle. The response just detracted from the original statement.
NightwingTRP 9y ago
Free trade.
There are win-wins, win-loses and lose-lose scenarios. I actually believe that economically we could have everybody winning. But we don't because politicians and the wealthy 1% are too greedy.
As you become more efficient, economics of scale increase the amount of wealth in a society through economic exchange and amplification of the free-trade win-win. At any one snapshot in time there is a finite amount of wealth to share around. There's more than enough these days for everybody. We've advanced so far that economically there should never be anybody starving in a first world country.
However our greed and the money in the political machine ensures that the gravy train keeps on rolling for those who're already part of the super wealthy. This is how during the recession, the top 1% wealthiest gained double digits percentage increases in their income, while real income for everyone else fell.
It would be simple to solve the problem. Simplify the tax system, remove stamp duty, capital gains tax and inheritance tax and close tax loopholes while lowering corporation tax for a net gain, then put a law in place saying anyone who resided in the country could only earn a multiple of say 20 times what their lowest paid employee earned. You'd still have meritocracy and things like living on benefits and the poverty trap would become something that could seriously look like being eradicated. It alters the game just slightly enough that anybody who does a good honest hard days work will not become a part of the working poor ever again. Sure the mega-millionaires don't get to be billionaires anymore. But I won't be crying any tears over that.
Of course none of that will ever happen because politicians are overpaid and corporations have far too much influence over politics.
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NightwingTRP 9y ago
Don't be so silly. A poor sales department or a poor procurement division will mean that you lose. In the middle is where both sides benefit from a deal.
Under your logic, wealth is never created. Our economies don't grow. Economics is not a zero sum game.
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CopperFox3c 9y ago
Sure, you could setup a hypothetical "mythical" world where things work like that, and if so I would agree with you.
But you and I both know that, given human nature, that is not how reality works ...
NightwingTRP 9y ago
Not quite. I don't believe it's mythical. It's quite reasonable because all I'm doing is tweaking the economic regulation and meritocracy to ensure we no longer leave people behind. You should be behind me mate. Equality of opportunity!
I just believe that nobody in positions of power in our respective societies has any level of benevolent masculinity about them to try to provide this to society. (Though maybe Trump will prove me wrong?) The sort of man who pulls ahead, then leads everybody else forward. I would also postulate that many of those among the working poor and possibly even some stuck on benefits simply don't try to be anything more because they've lost hope in the system.
Essentially, when you rob a man of all hope of reward for his efforts, how can you complain when he fails to achieve anything? Have you ever read any Bukowski? I think you'd be quite taken with it.
CopperFox3c 9y ago
Oh yeah, my friend, I have indeed read some Bukowski. I like to think he'd agree with my pragmatic approach to life.
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Good point. There is a real lack of that quality in men of power in modern society. Looking at history, that was traditionally praised. In order to be respectable, a man had to not only have wealth, but he had to use that wealth to involve other men in enterprises to accomplish greater goals than merely the accumulation of more wealth. Sure, a larger bank account is nice for him and his family, but it's more significant and noble to be able to also attribute the success of other men and progress of the group to his leadership, goals and initiatives.
Overkillengine 9y ago
Noblesse oblige has unfortunately been sacrificed on the altar of hedonism.
We cannot expect the elite to rescue us; our only recourse is to carve our own minor kingdoms and only treat with those of like mind, and to let the rest rot in their excesses.
AFPJ 9y ago
Being proud of who you are is okay for anyone except white males because it will inevitably lead to instinctual ethno-centric group formation - a collective where trust, collaboration, efficiency and achievement go through the roof. The "us or them" mentality kicks in. You wake up and realize you're at war. That it is in fact your group vs everyone else.
Whites are not superior individually, but when in a collective the combined tendency for goodwill, easy outward trust and an inclination to welcome the unknown become an exponentially overwhelming force for change if given a chance to "build up". This is why prisoner's dilemmas (diversity) conditions are injected into white societies to disrupt them.
Ethnically homogeneous minority collectives and women rip away at their in-groups and ergo do not pose the same threat - ask anyone what it's like living in a black/hispanic/latino neighborhood (or country) if you don't believe me.
Yet any mostly white population is an automatic and immediate "diversity crisis that needs fixing":
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It's not a secret anymore. Europe is currently engaged in a massive exercise in self-destruction whereby we've forgotten that "white" here means over 40 different nationalities and far more than that in regional cultures, and we think we need to import 'diversity' in the form of people of different skin colour. We're anti-racist, but skin colour is astoundingly important apparently. And the pale variety is not wanted.
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The part that gets me is how most white males not only watch it happen, but also actively support it.
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Whisper 9y ago
It's not about whiteness, it's about homogeneity of cultural identity, and cooperative habits.
It is well-understood (in scientific circles whose papers SJWs and cultural Marxists don't read) that the prosperity of a society consists largely of two elements:
This means that to be successful, societies must strike a balance between internal cohesion and external adaptability.
So this suggests two ways that a society can destroy itself from within:
It can allow few to no external influences or immigration. This causes the society to leave chunks of wealth, technological advances, and cultural progress "on the table", and be bypassed by the rest of civilization. It will eventually be conquered, militarily or economically.
The first case is the collapse of the Soviet Union.
The second is the decline of the United States of America.
AFPJ 9y ago
You say that but look at ethnically and culturally homogeneous Muslim/African countries and compare them to Nordic and Scandinavian ones. Nobody's culturally enriching Zimbabwe, Turkey or other shit holes because they are neither a threat to the globalist agenda since they can't stand on their own two feet nor would anyone sane ever move there.
These are the two common ways, but death from lack of immigration in advanced, ethnically homogeneous countries doesn't occur from leaving wealth, advances & culture on the table via lack of immigration - Japan is a good example.
None of those are an issue for Japan or Russia, it is the sub-replacement fertility rate that's their real problem. Any country with a genetically favorable population wouldn't require immigration in significant amounts to sustain itself.
Virtually every indigenously Nordic, Scandinavian or Anglo-Saxon country is being decimated by immigration. The only large & influential country suffering from neither sub-replacement nor erosive immigration right now is China and they are suffering from corrupt over-regulation (which is a whole another discussion) & resource shortages. In the end, it's possible to fix sub-replacement fertility rates, but once "diversity" hits a critical mass it's unsalvageable
Borders should stay closed, it's why they're called "borders". Select programs to pluck the wealthy (see Finland's net $$$ requirements) or PhD educated are a competitive advantage. Anything beyond that is willful suicide as a nation.
Whisper 9y ago
Exactly my point. Racially homogeneous cultures can't get jack shit done unless they are internally trusting and cooperative. Racially diverse cultures that are internally trusting and cooperative do prosper.
So, conclusion: racial homogeneity is probably only important as a source of cultural homogeneity. And cultural homogeneity is necessary, but not sufficient, for a high-trust society.
What? Are you serious? Japan has imported more ideas from the West than any other country has. The West kicked their ass until they started doing so. Lesson learned.
Yep. This is the Eternal September Effect in action.
It is suicide to take in immigrants faster than you can make them "go native" and adapt the mores and practices of your culture.
It is also suicide to take in no immigrants or foreign ideas, but that's not a discussion worth having right now, because having it would be like running about with fire extinguishers in the middle of a flood.
Demonspawn 9y ago
I've spoken about this as the difference between a Nation and a Country:
A Nation is an area of land with a population bound by common beliefs.
A Country is an area of land with a population bound by common laws.
Nations are obviously Countries, but the interesting convex is that Countries contain non-land-bounded Nations inside of it: various groups within the Country which compete for spoils.
That's the biggest issue: in a Nation an individual will fight to make the Nation's pie bigger, of course with the vast majority of that increase going to him... but the Nation's pie is bigger. In a Country, the various groups fight for a bigger slice of the Country's pie.
Nations compete outwardly. Countries compete inwardly. It's obvious which is more successful in the long run.
The key is getting that common belief set. Religion and race have done this wonderfully in the past... not only creating the ingroup, but, more importantly, the outgroups that the Nation has to compete against (because an ingroup is meaningless and will self-divide without an outgroup).
TheLongerCon 9y ago
That's a pretty worthless distinction, every country or nation has fragmentation within it, this is why politics is a universal phenomenon from hunter gathers tribes to modern day nation state.
Too much fragmentation is damaging and leads to civil wars, too little leads to stagnation.
You say race has done a wonderful job in the past, but I don't know if you have read anything about European history and serious. Until the last few decades, Europe had been in a state of perpetual war, which was mostly filled with whites killing other whites. And this isn't just Europe, every racial group has examples of in-group violence.
Religion is a better example, but the problem is, then you have to believe in religion which is harder and harder to do in the modern era. Religion is also poor at adapting to change.
No sex before marriage was a good way to run a culture when people got married in their teens, and there was no contraception. No with birth control, and college education prolonging marriage in mid/late 20's, abstinence is a worthless model to go off of. This is just one example of religion poorly adapting to the modern era.
Whisper 9y ago
That's a good way to put it.
I think what's important is a sense of shared identity. Humans are genetically programmed to identify as members of a group, and be hostile to outgroups, but the important thing to realize is that they are not genetically programmed with selection criteria for those groups.
This explains many, many things, from religion to football fandom.
Race is one criterion that been used in the past, but that's not because it's the best, but because it's the easiest. Race is a weak criteria, because it leaves you unable to cherry-pick the best from elsewhere. This holds true for any immutable trait. Ideally, you want to be able to recruit from wherever you find value.
So racism isn't a good idea.
But there's a problem with anti-racism, too. And that problem is that it usually comes mixed with multiculturalism, which is the stupid idea that people can somehow identify as a group without having any shared values whatsoever.
Religion has problems of its own, also. It works as glue, but it's inflexible. Because by its very nature it insists on a single, immutable, revealed truth, it gets in the way of technological progress (can't have biotech if you don't believe in evolution), and efficient legal policy (wars and pogroms are not inherently necessary to get Henry VIII a divorce).
Demonspawn 9y ago
And because it's one of the rare cases where there is genetic programming for the in/out group. Google-fu is failing me, but I remember reading an article about a young boy who didn't react to other races as other races and there was actually a name for the genetic defect.
This, on the other hand, is true. But you are correct with multiculturalism being the problem when you are too far open to other races/cultures.
In the end tho: it's not about having the "one right answer". It's about having a better combination than your competition at the time. Because the world is not static, the "best combination" will change over time.
AFPJ 9y ago
You're talking about importing ideas, I'm talking about not importing people - the two are unrelated in today's world.
TheLongerCon 9y ago
Not really, how many great authentic Indian restaurants have you seen run by white people? Ideas are worthless without people to implement and fight for them.
Japan is stagnating culture because it refuses to import people, the West has leaped over them economically and culturally many times over.
AFPJ 9y ago
When you put it like that, it does make sense alas they'd qualify as a business owner per my earlier stance of:
People who want to own / run shit should be welcomed - I wasn't claiming otherwise.
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PaperStreetVilla 9y ago
If you believe that, then you are part of the problem. I've lived in both of canadas asian cities (vancouver, toronto) and i can tell you, the only thing holding back any asian man in either one is their inability to embrace masculinity.
Yeah, tiger parents are largely authoritarian, not preparing you for the real world (outside a job), but consider those white guys you work with. Their single mom has been calling them special and perfect for so long, they don't even have the same discipline you were given (assuming stereotypes)
both can achieve, but not if you keep looking at the other and thinking how much better they have it.
Western Canada is a great example of divsersity, not "diversity". generally, sikhs, asians, and white canadians all have developed that same cultural hedgemony that the first wave of european immigrants had in the early 1900s in the US. (WASPS it was called?)
granted, if you're in montreal, you're kind of fucked, but this hellhole is just 20 years in the past.
Swallowed_the_pill 9y ago
"But there are no genetic or biological strenghts, everyone, men, women, hispanic, whites, asians and so on are all the same biologically on the inside". This is one of the things I hate THE MOST about living in a SJW filled country. The fact that black people in America grow muscle by just looking at weights because of generation after generation of slavery, where physical strength, endurance and a healthy body was the only value they had. There is a reason for nearly every good sprinter on the top level is afro-american. The fact that white people in the cold north had to come up with smart plans for houses, storing food and hunting to outlive the cold, harsh winters. Endurance, intelligence and the ability to stick togheter where important. In Asia with their massive amounts of powerfull rulers who had strict rules, I can imagine that the cleaver and intelligent ones who could come up with nifty solutions to trick the law(like making farming tools that also functioned as weapons, cleaver hiding spots etc...). Etc..etc...
Every race has their strenghts that highly correlates with how we lived before the technolgical and following economical breakthrough.
Schveen15 9y ago
I see the greater point you're making (the last sentence of your post) and I somewhat agree with it, but as someone who grew up in a predominantly afro-american (AA) neighborhood, I agree with this
While disagreeing with the rationale behind such a trend:
That theory looks promising.......until you also note that genetically speaking, the AA community has a greater genetic pre-disposition to obesity and diabetes.
Possesing genetic pre-disposition to obesity and diabetes (community-wide) while also possessing genes that pre-dispose you to being more athletic would largely be in conflict with another. That's not to say genetics can't play a part in athletic success (as the case of Jalen Rose shows. His father played no role in his upbringing), just that a stronger explanation exists.
I have an alternative explanation that boils down to a combination of economics and environment. This two factors play a part in how often they engage in physical activity growing up which influences their likelihood advancing to the top level of most athletic endeavors.
I'm willing to share this perspective with you if you're interested, but only if you're interested (because that's a lot of typing)
Swallowed_the_pill 9y ago
The part about looking at weights was a hyperbole. I would also say that the fact that a lot of AA people lack education is a huge contributor to an unhealthy lifestyle, obesity etc... And not because of genetics. Have you made fried chicken and seen how much of the fat that gets absorbed by the flour? The deep frier is frequently used by poor people in America. Combine that with sugary drinks and the fact that a lot of them drive everywhere they go and never excercise and you get obese people. The genetics part is bullshit. How many slaves were obese? Probably no one ever. When you eat more calories than you use, you gain weight. Some, very few, have a rare medical condition that makes it near impossible to lose weight. We are talking about less than 1 per 1000.
Another thing about weight is that during the time you grow up,more specifically from age 10-12 until 16-18 your body will form an ideal body. It will work pretty hard to stay ideal when you get older, so if you are obese during that age, you probably stay obese for the rest of your life, unless you make an active, drastic change in your lifestyle.
Schveen15 9y ago
Sorry about the late reply, I didn't know that you had actually responded to this comment. But to address your points
I assumed as much
I agree. I would expand this observation to most people, though. If you ask most people what a carbohydrate is, why you need dietary fat (mostly of the monosaturated kind), or why consuming high amounts of sugar will make you more fat over time, they couldn't muster up any explanation based in science and anatomy (or even a general outline of it). Nutrition and fitness science aren't taught well in most high schools and middle schools as evidenced by the fact that this bullshit ever existed in the first place.
I'm on the fence about this. Obviously, we get fat because we're eating a high proportion of bad-source carbs (sugar, starch, etc.). The genetic component (in my mind) is simply there to explain why weight-gain affects different people differently.
Lastly, I think there was a slight misunderstanding of something I stated in my previous comment. When I wrote this:
I was talking about a theory I have as to why AA athletes tend to dominate the populations of football and basketball at the top level in the US.
Schveen15 9y ago
How so? What are your specific circumstances and how do you feel your environment is holding you back?
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JohnnyGameGuy 9y ago
You can change everything about your personality. The mental is malleable. Fact.
There is no genetic factor that makes you a sub par sales man. Go out, do stand up comedy or improv, develop your improvisational skills.
The only reason white guys seem better at that is due to outside influences. Your toxic attitude is not fit for TRP. These excuses make me wanna throw up.
Your limiting beliefs are holding you down, just the same as 90% of the white population is held down by it. Your world view is fucked.
Read Psycho Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz. Uproot any harmful beliefs and stick it to the man. Go kick ass like so many asian guys do (but you seem to not believe exist)
favours_of_the_moon 9y ago
People like AIDS Skrillex thrive on "the debate."
Just don't engage him, and he'll go jack off on somebody else.
knightSwolaire 9y ago
Spot on. Start lifting and watch your status rise high above the betas surrounding you
dudet23 9y ago
Its simple. White people have been taught to hate themselves. White people are bad. White people are evil. White people killed this group blah blah blah.
White Americans need to take back their identity and shut all this anti-white bullshit down while we still have some level of control over this country.
White masculinity is being assaulted EVERYWHERE.
The solution is too educate your children (oh wait, all you fucking race cucks spern the idea of ever having children). Nevermind lets just fucking die.
Lets just hand our women over to third world scum. That will solve things.
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Luckyluke23 9y ago
benign born in jan and in 1990, i can confirm the 90's suck major ass.
I will say one thing though, I'd hate to see the generation after mine
thisishowiwrite 9y ago
CISWHITE. Best URL tag ever.
NaughtyFred 9y ago
The fact that these people have internationally known nicknames (Aids Skrillex, Carl the Cuck and of course Trigglypuff) used negatively to refer to them shows that on some level society knows how dumb these fuckwits are.
DforDeadpool 9y ago
Well, sometimes I just laugh about that my rivals in the mating game are manchildren who cry over how they will never find the true love, The One and how unlucky they are because somehow magically all women they like will not return their feelings. And those are grown men.
bowie747 9y ago
Possibly the most ridiculous concept to successfully implant itself in the subconscious of the masses.
There is one person on Earth who, when bound to, will make you happy forever. Thus alleviating all your anxieties.
One person?! In 7 billion? Sometimes you have to question what you're told, or you end up sucking the long dick of blue pill fantasy. Ultimately serving everybody's interests but your own.
KartagoPill 9y ago
are you searching for true love, The One?
legion327 9y ago
Neo is The One. And he doesn't need true love because he swallowed the fucking Red Pill.
Also
God I haven't laughed that hard in days.
MajorStyles 9y ago
"The One" was probably doubleteamed by a couple of gangbangers over the weekend.
And she's going back for more...
DforDeadpool 9y ago
Damn Chad and Jamal, stealing all unicorns like that.
dissentforall 9y ago
Someone should write a parody children's book about this. One of those "be this guy, don't be that guy"
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Chad, Jamal, Carlos, Han, Mohammad and Ballsdeep
MajorStyles 9y ago
Yes, but she will tell her beta male sucker that he should avoid being machismo. Because...it's just not right.
CQC3 9y ago
Well she's all machismo'd out from the weekend brah, gotta be more considerate to other people's feelings.
DforDeadpool 9y ago
It just reminded me how it made sense when I first realized some men are meant to be masculine and some men are meant to be castrated. It all comes to alpha vs beta mating strategy. Just reminded me of a shiny moment that I finally understood it.
smokecheck1976 9y ago
That's because there is no magical "the one". There are only ones. Some of them are good and some of them are bad. If they are determined to be bad, no matter if they are a good lay and willing for more, they are quickly routed out of my life. If they are determined to be good, then the door opens to things like friendships and relationships.
The One doesn't exist. Do you know what gold looks like as it is being filtered out of silt? It takes a good eye to spot it.
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smokecheck1976 9y ago
Then you are looking in the wrong places. Sorry.
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DroppinHadjisLandR 9y ago
I sexually identify as a Viking.
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WakeUpAlreadyDude 9y ago
Your analysis is essentially correct. My only quibble is that this didn't start with Gen X. The most evil generation in history, the Baby Boomers put off having kids until the 80's and 90's. They are the core pushers of the equality train. Gen X continued a tradition started by their parents, aunts and uncles.
cuntbh 9y ago
I'm not sure if I'm reading you right, but it seems you're saying that self esteem is a bad thing. From the definition "confidence in one's own worth or abilities; self-respect", then it seems like one of the qualities that is encouraged here.
However there is a caveat there: Value/worth is more important than self-esteem. If you are a high value individual, self esteem will come naturally if you are in touch with reality, so the RP teaching is to create high self-esteem through increasing your value, not by moving the goalposts and deluding yourself.
sorceryofthetesticle 9y ago
The issue was how everyone focused on the end result of self esteem. The logic was, "if self esteem is so important, then why don't we make all children feel good about themselves. Kids feel good about themselves when we praise them, therefore if we always praise kids, they will have lots of self esteem!" Self esteem is actually developed through hard work, failure, and overcoming failure, so the "always reward no matter what" mentality missed the mark entirely.
It's functionally the same as the difference between an alcoholic who, no matter what's going on, will go get trashed after work and a regular drinker who rewards himself for a hard-earned achievement with a couple beers on a friday.
kremer5 9y ago
i think he's alluding to undeserved self esteem. if you're consistently a loser, you shouldn't have confidence.
our_guile 9y ago
Exactly. It was promoting self esteem for the sake teh feelz, not the self esteem that develops through accomplishment.
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To supplement: Someone who is a loser who is alright with that as a state of being has no motivation to push past it and make something of themselves. That results in today's society where most people will try to tear down successful people via words than try to raise themselves to their level.
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SILENTSAM69 9y ago
I find all the "check your privilege" stuff as very funny.
We checked it back in the 90's during the last PC craze. We know we have it better in first world countries. It is as if these dumb kids think they are educating us.
Plus it is very prejudice to just tell everyone who looks white about their privilege. They often tell me Irish people were not considered white. Well I am Irish and Native, so they can just fuck right off when telling me about my white privilege.
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MattyAnon Admin 9y ago
The magic unicorn utopia materialised for women. Biology looks after its wombs.
But men have to compete. Pretending to live in a magical unicorn utopia is opting out. Biology isn't fooled, even by the hamster.
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Truer words! I was punished over and over for fighting on the playground. Given trophies for no reason. Told "respect" women. Nonsense!
Make love to women and war on men.
Jester2552 9y ago
I'm still curious when and how diversity went from considering a person's background and many other different criteria to simply race, sexual orientation and gender?
Got to talk to one of the main head enlisted chiefs in my career field last week and he talked to us about how we as a career field in the Air Force have a diversity problem and then began to read the difference percentages of race within my career field. When I asked him why does race solely indicate diversity he just refused to answer my question. I don't get it at all.
Docbear64 9y ago
My main plate is an SJW ( I know I know but she's submissive and fun) , so for her classroom assignment she posted on facebook asking everyone to describe the birth gender, the gender they currently associate with , and what their gender meant to them . She requested I throw my hat in the ring .. .for what reason I have n fucking clue because she knew my answer was going to be counter her typical crowd but I figured why not .
The main responses and ones she was looking for were from FtM transmen . they basically expressed their gender was not a reflection on them and that they didn't appreciate the socially constructed blah blah blah .
I posted mine and expressed that I identified as a male, the first time I was really in touch with my masculinity was when playing football, and expressed the values I felt being a man endowed me with to bring to the table.
The shocking responses were the other mens I have never witnessed such public neutering on a social platform . both of the other men expressed they felt they grew with feminine or female complexes , they never truly identified with their masculinity , and that they felt like their penis ownership was not a sign of superiority or even importance really in who they were . I was genuinely surprised at the outright shame and almost reluctance to call themselves men . My plate never said anything about my post ( maybe she just wanted it to provide a more masculine balance) but it was fascinating to see how ashamed other men were at the idea of being men and their own ( or maybe their lack ) of masculinity.
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rp_phoenix 9y ago
I wanna elaborate on that last part of your comment. If you get people to believe that success is something people are "born with", people will be much more accepting to live the dull, slave-like lives the system wants people to live in. "Oh, if only I was born with his intelligence, I'd be successful. Oh well, back to the couch to binge watch Netflix." That's what our society has become.
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The more destructive aspect of participation trophies is that there is no trophy for winning. Competition itself is unfair simply because someone will win, and probably because of "an advantage." This turns kids into shitty adults with a just-world fallacy mentality.
revised_and_updated 9y ago
The whole notion of competetion is non-sensical to me from a deterministic perspective. Our fates were decided from the outset. No one "deserves" their trophy or their gold medal. Usain Bolt was born with the right genetics and into the right circumstances. I don't give a fuck if "he" "worked his ass off". That's what was destined to happen from the beginning. In this context, there is no better man, just the luckier man. What makes one man more deserving of the carrot than the other?
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I highly doubt Usain Bolt spent his time sitting around on his ass eating junk food before he won his gold medal. The difference genetics makes is that between two people who are both working hard, the one with the better genetics usually wins. If the person with better genetics doesn't put in the effort to go along with them, they can and and often will (not always, depending on how far apart they are naturally) lose to people who have worse genes who put in more effort.
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BlackFallout 9y ago
Good read. I like how you put the problem into perspective.
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Docbear64 9y ago
It's not just a bit of spine , it's a bit of intelligence, a bit of responsibility, a bit of humor , we take a shit on women for being awful dating candidates but honestly the typical blue pill male is his own personal shit show . I have had women respond to me simply because I wrote a legible and reasonably interesting bio .. .if my spelling can make me an attractive man then women are in trouble.
PantsonFire1234 9y ago
Women are equally stuck in loser ville. The amount of fat scum that's running around in the west is astonishing. Women who are out of shape. Women who are average at best that ruined their only virtue by becoming massive sluts. Those that tattoo themselves like their some masculine guy. The list goes on..
Allot of women are born ugly, fat or average- yet they feel entitled to the best men out there. The biggest cancer in our society is the social movement that tries to deliver that wish to these women. And tells them outright that they deserve anyone- cause their all beautiful and special.
Want to know why there are so many sluts and alpha widowed women out there? Look no further than the unrealistic expectation and self image that society created. Most women don't even get fucked up by a real Alpha- just some guy that was one or two points to high for her.
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Great point about why women in the past were more likely to look with a jaundiced eye at a male out of their league that was chatting them up. Now, women have no idea what their league even is.
PantsonFire1234 9y ago
Oh they know alright. It's just that they don't want to accept it. They need constant validation to keep them in fantasy land. Social media likes, slutting it up etc. These are there methods.
BBallBabylon 9y ago
We promote the idea that everyone is special, and of equal merit. We celebrate thos less capable, and those who excell, equally. There is less and less reason for the motivation to truly reach for greatness, and more reason to simply assume that we are naturally great by defauly. It is obious when someone like Aids Skrillex is confronted with the demand for content to justify his accusations. He is taken back by the challenge because he is the result of an age obsessed with fabricting heightened self worth.
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DetectiveDing-Daaahh 9y ago
They were raised, as some of on this sub were as well, to believe you can 'bff' your way into a woman's pants. White-knighting on steroids.
Demonspawn 9y ago
No.
Equality of outcomes is right out, as men and women are different and trying to get equality of outcomes is obviously insane and suicidal.
Equality of opportunity is also insane and suicidal, just less obvious and less quick:
Equality under the law, including women's suffrage, is how women have turned government into a wealth redistribution system, taking men's taxes to fund programs serving women. That equality of law is destroying us.
Equality of opportunity is also a huge problem. Men are not women and women are not men. There is a huge doctor shortage in the UK and other European nations because women don't work life-long full-time careers like men do. In fact, 60% of women doctors have dropped out of the full-time workforce before their 10th year after graduation. Since the number of medical students is limited, that equality of opportunity is causing massive problems.
Seeking this unnatural equality, in any forms, is harmful to a society. A successful society is the goal, not equality. Equality is not a goal, but instead a path towards self-destruction.
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Maybe you're right about any reasonable person, but that shouldn't be construed as the majority. When the majority thinks of equality, they think of that blatant lie "everyone is equal".
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but the subliminal message of equality does not get separated out in people's minds. even if you claim to appreciate the difference, the irrational concept of equality gets reaffirmed more often than not. it's a nasty linguistic trick
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i agree with that. question for you: what percentage of the populace do you think has read Harrison Bergeron? Of those, what percentage do you think knows that Vonnegut wrote it as a satire (please correct me if you have different info here, btw)? my point: this subliminal impact is meant to work 60% of the time every time, not 100% of the time. It succeeds in pushing the needle and laying fertile soil for fucked up policies and twisted logical loops.
nubfilter 9y ago
As a male and self proclaimed feminist I take offense to your comment. I am for complete equality on moral and legal grounds. I am for ending the stigma that says women are delicate creatures and that men should "man up" and deal with them. I am for equal pay for equal work and effort.
Your typical "feminist" female, however, wants not equality but superiority. I'm not sure what the term is for that... perhaps someone can jump in and elaborate.
"Male feminists" as you describe them are probably not really feminists as they likely have some resentment or still place women on some sort of pedestal. I'm also at a loss here for the correct term, but I don't think "feminist" is the correct term you want to use.
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nubfilter 9y ago
sarcasm clearly lost in translation...
FrankieTAE 9y ago
If you're getting offended that easily then perhaps you should re-read the OP.
Going around in life hoping that 'being offended' and complaining about trivial terminology will afford you praise/opportunities/apologies and openly identifying as a 'male feminist' is pretty much the definition of a beta male, and shows that you would probably benefit from reading up on a lot more RPT
nubfilter 9y ago
It seems sarcasm is easily lost... Of course I am not offended, I was just trying to raise a point on nomenclature.
setsar 9y ago
The more and more I am on TRP, the more I see these topics come up. I get that the majority of readers here are white but is that a standard? I mean, the first 3 paragraphs are about being white. Is this an exclusive club? If so, should I join NAACP_TRP or something? Seriously, I can't link the topic of being white to anything of substance to the post. It's just irrelevant.
KM31548 9y ago
We seem to be the group that's mostly under fire. I like to think TRP is kind of a refuge for us. Thank god I realized something was wrong with our society, otherwise I'd end up like so many others who never came to this realization. (though I think it's changing) Also, I think we happen to be more susceptible to blue pill ideology (probably due to our current system). It seems other races have done pretty well in the masculinity aspect. Although they could definitely harness it in better ways.
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It's a topic of substance because its been targeted for 3 decades. Most people who fit that physical description are descriminated against if not outright attacked because of it. The point is to be aware of it and not think of it as acceptable and not just allow it to happen.
setsar 9y ago
Wow, thanks for the downvoted guys. If your white ego is so fragile that a harmless and legitimate comment gets this then maybe check your beta selves in the mirror and realize that my comment wasn't an attack. Way to act like bb.
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look man, i know it must suck. actually, i don't know. i can only assume. just remember, it's a numbers thing. most people in the U.S. are white (for now). most people on the internet are young, relatively well off, and white. the population on TRP is going to be pretty heavily conservative, which is ALSO mostly white. It's simply a numbers thing. I don't think most TRP go out of their way to exclude, but sometimes things bleed over. Don't know how else to say it
setsar 9y ago
I get it, and no need to explain. I just wish it was somewhere in the sidebar. Here, I thought it was a haven for men to better help each other out. Never would have guess it's that, just for whites. That's kind of a dealbreaker for many people.
Ever walk into an expensive store and looked the price of a shirt only to realize you're in the wrong place? Again, nothing wrong with the store(sub), just wish maybe there was a sign that said, "Sale: $50 t-shirt!" Would've saved face for both people.
Demonspawn 9y ago
Just because not all posts pander to you does not mean that this place excludes you.
Fuck off with your "woe is me" bullshit.
setsar 9y ago
Lol, did I upset a white guys? If you read my post, I did not complain or make it a victim's posts. I actually said you guys can have your little KKK Klub. Nothing wrong with it. Just advertise it instead of misleading people on.
Like I said it my original post. 3 irrelevant paragraphs the op made crying about being white. Then his little beta klanmates(hint: you) come in to pat him on the back. He could replace those 3 paragraphs about being gay and it would still hold the same weight(hint: none).
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honestly, maybe there is demand for TRP specific subs? If you are noticing this issue, I'm sure others have as well. Something to complement TRP? Everyone always likes to assume that there are no cultural differences between races and we're all the same, but practically, that kinda falls short sometimes. I used to have a black roommate, and he shared your sentiments. Eventually, he found a tight group of black friends on campus, and he was MUCH happier. We were still friends and roommates of course, but he was no longer isolated from people who he could relate to more. people he could share specific stories with where he wouldn't have to qualify every single statement. A black TRP could develop some really cool angles on the subject. My $0.02