I'm going to keep this post (reasonably) short and sweet, and maybe you'll find some value in it.
Many modern people shirk at generalizations. They claim that the world is too complicated, and that nuance is necessary. They claim that to apply a generalization of a large population to an individual leads to stereotypes and bigotry.
All of those might be good points, but in actuality completely miss the point.
Let's be clear about what it is we're doing when we generalize. Rather than delve into the annoyingly complex statistics of power studies, p values, Bonferroni corrections, non-Gaussian distributions (all of which can relate to our discussion of generalizations) let's use a simple analogy that gets the point across.
You're a man on a beach without access to modern technology and cut off from civilization. You see a storm coming, and its gale winds whip you around. You run inside. The raindrops and wind are coming from all directions. It's chaos!
Or at least to the uninformed man, all he sees is chaos.
Now there's a weatherman on TV. He uses all the information at his disposal (satellite imagery, data from past hurricanes, etc.), and sees a hurricane as clear as day. He sees the spiral spokes, and understands the direction of the hurricane in general. He's not exactly perfect at predicting it 100% yet, but he can at least see how it's moving.
The motion of a given raindrop, or even a given storm inside the hurricane, is annoyingly complex. There are a thousand variables at play. To take the hurricane's general direction and apply them to a specific raindrop is stupid and foolish, due to the complexity of a small, acute situation.
But that doesn't mean the general trends don't exist. That doesn't mean that the hurricane itself is not moving in a given direction, despite the fact that you can't necessarily see that direction from a given raindrop's movements.
An extraordinarily complex system such as a hurricane has general trends when you look at it from the proper perspective. When you are knowledgeable.
You will never know exactly how a given raindrop will move, but you are better prepared and understand the general trends of the storms.
We're learning more and more every day about the dynamics of the interactions between men and women. There are nuances, sure. But many of those dynamics have been common knowledge which have passed the test of time. Nuances are constantly being brought to the surface, but let's not forget that the general trends over large populations hold true.
Speaking about the sheer complexity of the dynamics between a pair of two humans, between a pair of raindrops in a hurricane, does not dispute the simple fact that there are general trends we're observing.
TLDR: AWALT

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Good analogy.
I too get tired of the bad rap generalizations get. They are useful tools, an axe to a scalpel; some situations call for precision, in others it's useless to be too precise.
starting_oveRP 10y ago
Weatherman: "Looks like the hurricane is moving east!"
SJW: "Are you saying ALL RAINDROPS ARE LIKE THAT? Obviously some are NOT MOVING EAST. Therefore, you're a racist raindropist."
Calling out exceptions may render an absolute untrue, but it does not render a trend untrue.
AWALT, as discussed here, does not mean all women are carbon-copies of each other. It means all women have the propensity to act a certain way, and usually do.
Turkerthelurker 10y ago
The exception that proves the rule
Not only does pointing out exceptions attempt to render a trend untrue, it often has the opposite effect of reinforcing the trend.
"Women are just as strong as men! Look at Ronda Rousey, she even challenged Mayweather!"
"Women CEO's can be just as competent, look at Fiorina!"
"Well I happen to know a couple that have been happily married for 10 years thanks to marriage counseling."
The fact that somebody has to state a few counter-examples shows that the general trend is there.
vengefully_yours Senior Endorsed 10y ago
Half are headed east, halfvare headed west, except for those going north or south. Hurricanes are circular...
Bitches are crazy.
RedBigMan Endorsed Contributor 10y ago
All raindrops fall to the ground. I win.
Stythe 10y ago
No way man. Sometimes a raindrop lands on your head and you get married and it's perfect forever and ever. That raindrop is the exception. Yea.
HumanSockPuppet Vanguard 10y ago
Checkmate, meteorologists.
balalasaurus Endorsed Contributor 10y ago
But but, some womynz are special snowflakes!!
trptwerp 10y ago
Would you prefer a blizzard analogy then? /s
vagbutters 10y ago
Dude MY girlfriend is different, she has only fucked 24 guys by the age of 20!! I should put a ring on her she's beautiful inside and out and loves me for who I am!!
juliusstreicher 10y ago
Just think...all that sex- and it's all yours!
RudeJude92 10y ago
Yours has only had 24? Pshhh amateur.
vagbutters 10y ago
She says it's just like they say in Pokemon-- you gotta fuck em all!
Entropy-7 10y ago
The bloopers on PPD love to trot out the tropes that:
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All knowledge is subject to debate and revision; if it isn't, it's either a useless platitude or an untestable statement that can't contain any value.
How PPD is a waste of time. Like Whisper masterfully summarized, the problem is that while redpillers look for what's true regardless of the ethical implications, bluepillers start from their ethics and create a truth that confroms to those.
They're two epistemologically different approaches that are irreconcilable and can't even talk to one another.
Uptonogood 10y ago
Only one of them is flat out wrong however.
RP_Vergil 10y ago
Generalization helps in making plans and allows us to stick to a bigger picture to achieve the Goal set beforehand.
The general public doesn't want to be lumped together with the others as it means a dissolution of identity. It's weird, in a way like how Hipsters like to claim they are "Original", that they would fight tooth and nail just to proof that they are different from another person, but lacking in the point that you're also a Human being living amongst other Human being in a society which compromise of Human beings.
They want to be special snowflakes, the one out of the ordinary, to be treated differently. Yet studies have already shown that humans behabe mostly in a herd and gravitates towards like minded people. That's how societies are build, that's why when we deal with things on this sub, the absolute is the easiest way to understand things.
That's also what makes us dangerous to the SJWs. We disrespect their feelings and their individuality, that our idea of a bigger picture is patriarchy and oppressive. Yet the joke is on them when if you cannot handle the big picture, how are you able to then decide on the tougher choices? Companies do not produce products to meet the "niche" group of customers unless they hit an amout where it's saturated on their potential profit chart, Governments cannot cater only to the minorities if they alienate their majority of the population.
It's in this everlasting quest to "fulfill" every niche and minorities wish for "equality" is why the world is heading into a mess.
You can't please everyone, or you'll piss everyone off.
sir_wankalot_here 10y ago
Its a way of reframing to avoid the issue.
Red_Pill_Raskol 10y ago
First thing that comes to mind is that the 1.1 or so birthrate in western nations is like a storm that everyone is pretending is not happening.
Anyone who has the capacity to think diachronically would instantly understand that western culture is sick.
Toolman890 10y ago
Women always use exception logic because they cannot see things objectively.
123treetrunk 10y ago
Your post is, for lack of a better word, elegantly written. Would you suggest any reading material related to the topic or anything you would strongly suggest.
CypherWolf21 10y ago
The main takeaways should be:
TheRedStoic 10y ago
Awesome.
Many people are idiots, though these claims do apply when generalizing"everyone" or "for any x" statements, though the latter is usually only applicable to logic, don't use this with the average person, let alone a woman. As far as stereotypes, they are often simply heuristics people don't want to admit because they're not nice or passe truths.
See above. Yes and no. From our perspective, or the perspective of any pragmatist it applicationalist, yes. Though as an accredited philosopher I'll presume that's precisely what you meant, we're not talking about formal argument here.
Cool.
Yes the above is the very description of a few fallacies, all based on the hasty generalization, the fallacy of division and the fallacy of composition, (it's converse).
Of course, your correct.
I don't know if "proper" is the right word, from a certain perspective definitely, but using proper presumed there are not other sufficient perspectives and premises to hold for applying this data.
Yes, from this position, you are correct with"proper" see above. No issue here. Generally, you'll want to outline the pretense before the assertion.
They hold true, generally that in itself is the point.
It never has. That's simply a mistake of perspective focus, or maybe even bias. Of course the true lesson here is, don't argue with people unless you're certain they can understand objectivity and switch perspectives. Otherwise you're simply wasting time.
Yeah I guess. Generally. Hah.
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