Summary: A man’s power lies in his ability to walk away. Freedom is a thing that derives from boundaries. But ironically, so does enslavement.
Many of you may recognize the phrase ”Assume Formlessness” … it is Law of Power #48. You’ll notice in that thread, and in the few other threads about the topic on this sub, there is minimal discussion. Which is unfortunate, because Assuming Formlessness is one of the critical laws. Indeed, its mere practice subsumes many of the other laws.
The blue pill man is one who allows others to define him. To set the boundaries. If the feminists say it’s offensive, then he changes what he does. What he believes. He lets them pin him down, to put him in a cage. He is not free. The same is true of personal relationships. If his girlfriend or wife complains that something is bothering her, then he changes what he does.
You see, once they’ve pinned you down, you’ve already lost.
In recent years, a lot of the women I date/plate tell me “I’ve never been with anyone like you” or “I can’t figure you out”. They desperately want to define me. But I purposely refuse to take shape. I often do things that are complete polar opposites, moving from affectionate to asshole, genius to jock, classy city slicker to backwoods country boy. I am an amalgamation of many things, seamlessly shifting from one to the next, never pausing for long in one state. I am unpredictable.
And it drives them fucking nuts. The hamster wheel spins on overdrive.
That is what we mean by “mysterious”. What we mean when we say “frame”. Frame is not something you define … it is the refusal to be defined by others.
A simple red pill hack is play the asshole, a good method to fake-it-till-you-make-it for beginners … though we know the secret of the jerk is something much more subtle.
There are many examples of this.
For instance, responding to Shit Tests is mainly the art of evasion, since shit tests are an attempt to force you to “take form”, take a stance, a position, defend yourself. Techniques like Amused Mastery and Agree & Amplify are simply methods to deflect. Your power lies in your unpredictability. When you should defend, you attack. And when you should attack, you laugh. Simply put, you don’t fit the mold.
The same goes for Holding Frame … anger is allowing someone else to “define” you. Or Spinning Plates … it is simply a method of evading commitment. In a similar vein, Abundance Mentality is not being defined by a relationship. The reason abundance mentality works is because – by not being reliant on one woman for your identity – neither is your self-worth or self-respect reliant on that one woman. You are free because you are independent of her. You are free because you remained formless.
And when shit hits the fan, you retain your only real power: Being Willing to Walk Away. There is no weakness to attack. Nothing to bind you. Nothing to pin you down.
Machiavellianism at its core is rooted in similar formlessness: unpredictability.
Ironically, even things like Avoiding Apologizing for SJW shaming language underscore the importance of assuming formlessness, like this recent post pointed out. Or examples like Tim Hunt and Allen Frantzen. Apologizing – relenting to shaming tactics – in that situation is creating form out of the intangible. You are merely giving others a target at which to shoot.
What is perhaps most interesting is that it is assuming formlessness that also underlies Chad the “Natural Alpha” … think about it, remember him from high school, how he could do “nerdy” things and yet not be seen as a “nerd”. Regardless of what he did, he was not defined by others. Moreover, he had no fear of being defined by others. Women sense that shit. For women desire men who shape the world, not those that are shaped by it.
The unifying theme behind all the above concepts boils down to a simple truth: Assume Formlessness. Freedom is a thing that derives from boundaries. But ironically, so does enslavement. The difference, my friends, is in who is doing the defining.
A true Red Pill man is one who enforces his own boundaries, while evading those which others try to place upon him. He is the definer, not the defined. He is the chairmaker, yet he who himself never sits upon the chair.
The greatest power in this world is that which is covert, not overt. One who cannot be defined is one who wields such power covertly. It is not the large thug who scares you … rather it’s his conniving, unpredictable snake of a boss. True danger lies in things unseen.
Whether it be life or love or politics or whatever, refuse to take shape. Cultivate formlessness. Be visible, but unseen. Let them wonder.
“Be extremely subtle even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.” – Sun Tzu

Fukkthisgame 10y ago
"Classy city slicker"? Jesus christ, dude.
lakalahehe 10y ago
Can someone describe what the importance is of keeping the hamster working and what it means?
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This is a great fucking post and a rare sight on TRP nowadays. Deserves way more attention.
It is a life enhancing post, explaining the concept on formlessness so that one can derive his own conclusions. Much much better than another "AWALT, this feminist is hamstering again" post. Reminds me of "Don't read shit you're not supposed to read".
sakibombs25 10y ago
Reminds me of Jack Nicholson's quote from The Departed:
"I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me."
Merwebb 10y ago
you can be angry at someone or something, just use the anger to flow and change, to advance.
Thanks man, great stuff
balalasaurus 10y ago
Only 14 comments and 100 points. This post deserves more attention.
thickskinnedwhiteass 10y ago
This is enlightening. Great post. Thank you for sharing. We are all conscious about something, something which makes us insecure or makes us question ourself. One may think he's not smart enough, one that he's not a sleek talker while the other may think that he's not worthy of a certain love. This list can go on but the important part is to realise that such psychological insecurities stem from our identification with certain situations which may have taken place in the past. You may have fumbeled in front of your boss or peers causing you to think you're not smart, or may have slurred your speech during a talk causing you to doubt your confidence etc. You may react in a certain beta way around girls you find hot. These past negatives in your head make you ASSUME FORM. The form of being dumb/shy/beta etc. You start to identify with these forms and you assume that this is who you are at your core. But the beautiful thing is that you're not.
You are not your thoughts nor your past fuck ups. That is why what the OP is saying is enormous in the sense that you have to realise that you are NO thing. You are formless. I would say don't just assume formlessness, embrace it and be the FORMLESS.
Example You're in front of your boss, you're giving your presenration. The old forms come back to haunt you - you're too dumb, you can't even talk, you're not confident enough.
While identified with form - voice is breaking, trying to sound smart, trying to please, stuck in his head, constant fear of being judged, body is rigid throughout with a monotonous tone.
After assuming formlessness - started enunciating words way too clearly for a minute and then suddenly started rambling. His hand gestures are flailing and in everyone's face, the next minute they're behind his back. His vocal tone is fluctuating from a whisper to a loud bang of a point. He is nothing. He is not inhibited. He is formless and in being formless he's shedding away his old skin of identification with his past and he's giving himself to life and to the moment. Be formless.
CopperFox3c 10y ago
True. I think a fundamental question is why men adopt form at all, when all the evidence suggests that it is detrimental to them? What compels them to do so? Some sense of safety, security? A fear-driven process they couldn't shake from their childhood?
It really serves no purpose outside of supporting a gynocentric worldview.
Luckyluke23 10y ago
you make a funny point here, I haven't been into the red pill for that long. I've always had an idea of who I was, and where I need to be, ( or rather WHO i needed to be. IE: beta to alpha) but after reading this post, it feels like to me, I should be NO ONE. ( IE: i should be formless. I should be everything, not just one thing In a box)
this really hits home on so many fronts. you aren't trying to be chad, you are trying to be something you aren't ( beta) you just are, just FORMLESS
thickskinnedwhiteass 10y ago
Safety and security I would guess. A sense of familiarity with being or acting in pre determined ways in certain situations. We need to realise that we can be anything and act in any manner we please and that we do not have to stick to the habits which hold us back. You've always been a listener in a conversation? Flip the script and be the yapper instead. Always been bullied? Flip it and be alpha instead. Such flipping of the script would be much easier if we assume formlessness as you say as then we realise that we don't have to stick to our old scripts anymore and that we can write our very own.
Also, such realisation of formlessness is KEY in getting rid of the guilt a noob might experience when he's told to fake it till he makes it. The guilt arises because we think we are a certain way, but once you realise that you are formless and that your personality is just an assortment of experiences and thoughts you possess, then the change from a beta to an alpha is easier and will feel more natural so to speak.
I think you're correct in saying that this topic needs to be explored in more depth.
[deleted] 10y ago
"I think you're correct in saying that this topic needs to be explored in more depth."
I HOPE MAN
jmdbc1357 10y ago
It should. A side-by-side comparison of being formless and social relativism would be interesting. But being formless definitely applies to men, nowadays in particular.
Clint_Redwood 10y ago
If you want a great real life example of formlessness. Read about Bruce Lee and how he developed and started his own martial art.
He took all martial arts, studied them, then built his own. He understood them all(This was before MMA) so he could shape himself around any opponent. He could change his tactics mid fight. He was formless.
Be Like Water
edit:
I think this is a line of thought that needs to be explored more in TRP. As I've set into true abundance and IDGAF mentality I find myself a lot like OP. Changing constantly, exploring new avenues, rejecting ones that don't fit me or I find lackluster. It's an evolution you go through from starting TRP as a strict one dimensional person, then developing into multiple as your hobbies, interests and passions grow.
[deleted] 10y ago
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6YJEPGSOZ8lR2F4SlR2S1hrd3M/view?usp=sharing
That's a guide book on the precise thing. Been writing and releasing it for several months now.
TMarizzle 10y ago
For the lazy:
One of my favorite quotes of his. I think a lot of Bruce's JKD teachings and philosophies can be applied to TRP. Another nugget of his:
CopperFox3c 10y ago
To quote /u/Archwinger : TRP is about building powerful men.
[deleted] 10y ago
There is an interest chart in games people play in relation to ego states which addresses this. It points out the position of the people in the situation of a game. It demonstrates that if you move into a specific state or the other person moves accordingly. The typical results are also displayed.
A shit tests is merely a series of different games. Agree and Amplify while not specifically a state does represent a transition of states and depending on the situation has the desired result. What you are doing is putting the other person in there child like state while assuming the parent state.
Until you post this never really click for me.
Thanks.
whisky1111 10y ago
Very nice, man. Keep these type of articles coming! They are powerful.
MeltzerDriver 10y ago
Good stuff dude. This post deserves more attention.
EmperorAurelius 10y ago
This is all great advice, but extremely hard to put into practice. Everything on this sub is like that. It's easy to write and say do this or do that. it's another thing to do it.
For example, this week has been one of the worse for me mentally. Like lose my shit and kill someone bad. All because I lose frame and allow external things, people and words affect me. When I try to apply anything I learn here it just seems to make it harder. I'm at wits end man.
whisky1111 10y ago
It takes time and patience but through all the dirt and anger a little seed of inner peace begins to grow. And it aint some feel good new age bullshit this time. It's the real thing! The thing you have always wanted.
CopperFox3c 10y ago
If it were easy, my friend, everyone would be doing it. There wouldn't be all these men clinging desperately to some blue pill fantasy ...
TRP is a long road. A hard road. But that is what makes a man. As Pook said, a man who faces away from infancy. My advice to you would be, anytime you come across solid Red Pill advice, is to carve out a couple tangible pieces relevant to yourself, set goals, and then PRACTICE.
For every two steps forward, you'll take one back. We all have, even the ECs. You can give up, or push through. At the end of the day though, TRP has one simple message: Raise yourself up.
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balalasaurus 10y ago
How long have you been plugged in? You think undoing all those years of programming is going to be a walk in the park? Fuck no. You will fail. You will be disappointed. You will be at your wit's end.
But you're here for a reason. You're here to learn how to pick yourself up again. We all are. Some of us have earned our stripes over time. That doesn't mean we've reached the end point. It's a continuous process man. You just have to accept that.
EmperorAurelius 10y ago
Just under two years. It's just that I feel like time is running out. I feel like I should have reached my peak in my 20's. I'm turning 33 in a few months. I've been beta for all 32 years of my life. Nothing accomplished. It pains me because I know I deserve better. Much better than what I have now.
The progress, the very little I've made, is so slow. I want the changes and growth now. I wanted them years ago.
CopperFox3c 10y ago
All the stuff that /u/balalasaurus said. Listen to him. I would only add this:
Dude, I'm in my mid 30's. Pretty much only date girls in their 20's. One of my current ones is 22. It's never too late, but you have to stop looking backwards.
You can't change the things that you missed out on in the past ... but you can change the things you miss out on going forward.
balalasaurus 10y ago
And that's why you're frustrated. You're looking at your life in the past tense and longing for things you can no longer have. You can't go back in time to your 20s and 'reach your peak'. You can't give yourself what you should have now or what you feel you deserve.
What you can do though, is move forward.
You can make amends for all those years. Will it be the same as if you had found it sooner? Of course not and no-one here is promising you that. What we are promising though is the chance to be better going forward. I guarantee you this stuff will make your future life better than your past life. Maybe not the best it could have been, but better. Isn't that worth fighting for?
NeoreactionSafe 10y ago
Another way to say it is:
"Stop being so easily programmed."
...by assuming formlessness you become unprogrammable.
legedu 10y ago
Very solid post. When someone defines you, they limit you. Even if that definition is flattering, best to remain undefined.
DforDeadpool 10y ago
Gold. Thanks for the article.
tddaygame 10y ago
And it's not so strange that girls who say "I can't figure you out" are really nice long lasting companions. Because they can't pinpoint you it drives them nuts. And as we all know for girls tingles are tingles - even if she's mad at you for not being a 2d character she's still attracted. And she stays for more.
Really nice and concise post. Kudos.
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