TL:DR Keep your mouth shut about RP unless talking with another RP!
BP friend was dating a gold digging unicorn. Big mouth mofo me called her out. Instead of waking up to the truth, he gets all passive aggressive and anal around me for months and bashing me around mutual friends behind my back. Finally confronted me through FB saying how I disrespected his girl. Here's the kicker the gold digger dumped him long ago and he finally had the balls to confront me.
Lessons learned: Modern men are BP. The only people i can discuss RP philosophy with are middle aged men nowadays.
Understand TRP and be able to bend the matrix to your will when needed but never proclaim yourself as RP in today's society. Keep that shit close to your heart. Hide it inside you.

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I've been saying this for over a year - by giving a beta with the respect of having a red pill conversation, it's akin to pedestalising a woman - they will act out.
Eugenics2015 10y ago
Exact same thing happened to me. This guy was passive aggressive towards me for moooooonths because of something i said about his GF. I didn't even know what it was all about
BP men are like subhumans lol. What kinda bitchified male holds on to a grudge for that long.
rpscrote 10y ago
The title is a completely different message than the post...
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Summary: married woman grabs my ass, BP husband is ok with it. Wtf.
A married coworker of mine has said that he's scared of his wife. He talks shit on his wife at work but then follows it with acknowledging there's no way he could say it in front of her. It's so hard not to call him out for acting like a chickenshit because all he will do is make excuses (male hamster).
A group of us coworkers went out to see the Star Wars movie and this guy brought his wife. She's pretty and he later informed me that she used to be a slut ('used to be' heh). I went to my spot and bent to put the seat down, during which I felt a slight bump from the wife behind me. I thought she had bumped into me by accident. No big deal.
A couple days later, husband informs me that she intentionally grabbed my ass as I bent over. Husband was ok with it because wife 'does what she wants'. Smh
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killxorxbexkilled 10y ago
Oddly, if said BP pussy man enforced some kind of allowance on his ol' lady - for example...she's only allowed to spend $40/week on personal items - he would be seen as some kind of monster control-freak.
J_AsapGem 10y ago
that's.. so absurb lmao, world became so blind that it's now a normal thing, to have women run the relationships.. so pathetic.
Nogaz 10y ago
Like the kid who is trying to outsmart his mother. "But you never said anything about eating ice cream OUTSIDE"
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RationalKing 10y ago
I knew some guys who did something among those lines. Pathetic is the new cool apparently.
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There is this phase after the honeymoon phase of of a relationship where some guys think its cool to be pussy whipped. I have actually seen guys try to one up each other on who is more whipped.
I guess its like a new experience or something?
I in no way understand it, but I have seen it and am horrified when I do.
ColdEiric 10y ago
If he does that because his wife says it, I agree.
But if it's a limit he himself has put there, he is smart and deserves commendation. I personally know a former fat guy who said to himself that he can only eat 4 pizzas a year. And he started exercising. He looks like a new man now.
second-last-mohican 10y ago
No, his wife put her foot down and she wears the pants and holds the purse strings so to speak. What i didnt say is she buys x amount of beers when out at the supermarket and hes not allowed anymore than that, so he was sticking them in the garage, now hes going to get shitfaced on christmas day.
For a starters this guy may be a douchebag, i dont know, but she's gone the classic, "i can change him" route, and basically being his mother, giving him an allowance and telling him what he can and cant do.
Whats the deal with married guys having to "check-in" with THE BOSS, whenever a decision needs to be made..
ColdEiric 10y ago
They're under the thumb, as the British say. And the guys seem to prefer it to what we're doing here.
Stythe 10y ago
This was an odd realization for me when I noticed it. Its actually way easier to deal with most BP dudes because they have dude logic but are overly emotional. Just don't count in them if a chick is involved. Their priorities part the say they wish pussy lips did for them.
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Amazing that the most noble nice guys are the first to abandon their friends at the first scent of pussy. Meanwhile the "man whores" who chase tail all day amazing keep things together for their friends.
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Orig_analUse_rname 10y ago
At this point I've said it a million times. Don't talk about Red Pill.
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Law 5: So much depends on reputation, defend it with your life
Law 19: Know who you're dealing with, do not offend the wrong person
Law 30: Make your accomplishments seem effortless
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I'm really liking the direction posts here have been taking lately.
Short, sweet and informative.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
You called her out because you realized what she was doing and were worried about your friend getting hurt. I would want my male friends to do the same for me.
Beta men pedatstlize pussy, even above their own friends. They will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat if they think it will secure pussy. They absolutely need to be treated like women because they think and act like women: they have no sense of honor or loyalty.
batdetective 10y ago
I have the humility to admit when I'm wrong. Granted i am one to shoot unfiltered shit from my mouth at times and i'm toning it down. But that's just how i talk to guys, like how clint eastwood and his barber talk in gran torino.
But what's wrong with this PC world where i can't jokingly take a shot at someone? I wouldn't want to live in a world where people only say nice things to each other just so they can be "friends". I think it's wrong for a grown man to harbor animosity/be butthurt secretly and bash me to women, instead of manning up and confronting me in person and saying to my face: you crossed a line you SOB. End rant
MikePatton-yakyakyak 10y ago
Many middle aged men are cucked as well. Wanna get some guaranteed, instant RP advice? Spent some time with a grizzled old war vet. They put on a RP clinic without even trying.
Strike48 10y ago
You should have called him for being a beta little bitch. Would have stung him if you mentioned the girl breaking up with him too.
foldpak111 10y ago
It's cute how they respond to the same stimulus due to estrogen overload. On a second thought, it's actually heart breaking. Most men have unspeakable potential. But they wont discover it.
Gadnuk_ 10y ago
If you're looking for redpill men for your social circle there are ways of finding them without explicitly discussing TRP or any of its theories.
I started talking nutrition with a jacked older dude from one of my classes and as the conversation progressed I realized we had a lot of similar opinions on stuff. He used the term 'rational male' and I knew he was inconspicuously referring to Rollo, so I stuck out my feelers and recommended he should check out Robert Greene. He grinned and said something along the lines of 'ahh, I see you've done your required reading.'
This was when I realized I had a new ally who it would be safe to discuss redpill issues with, and funnily enough to this day neither of us has ever explicitly mentioned TRP, but we both know.
dr_warlock 10y ago
Lol. Powertalk when both parties consciously know it's powertalk. That's usually not the case.
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thebellmaker 10y ago
u/xinhoj's Thanksgiving comment quoted below. Just to save the next curious guy some time.
afkb39sdfb 10y ago
The best teacher is reality, and your cousin is going to have a long road ahead of her.
[deleted] 10y ago
Last time I did that I ended up in jail, no lie. Traffic stop turned retarded war of power with a police officer... after 900 miles of 48Laws audio book. Lucky I'm white. Never argue with a police officer about his shitty behavior, please.
Nogaz 10y ago
You were doing a power play from a position of no power. Don't argue with police, you don't have any rights and it will always go badly for you
douglas_p 10y ago
The fact that you thought you could argue your way out of a traffic stop in the first place just means you're not very bright.
garlicextract 10y ago
You're just stupid then if you argued with a cop
FinallyRed 10y ago
Don't blame the book when you blatantly applied it's advice incorrectly. Sounds like you were trying to win with arguement. Sounds like you weren't playing the perfect courtier. Sounds like you could have used surrender. Maybe rereading it is the perfect advice for you too.
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Hah, yea, I was stupid... it was years ago, I was full blue and idealistic as fuck. Tone over text is brutal but my tone is that of, "I was a fucking retard"... indeed the book needs another read. Notice the
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garlicextract 10y ago
You're just stupid then if you argued with a cop
[deleted] 10y ago
"Confronted me trough Facebook" is an oxymoron
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Best friend randomly brought up trp at lunch the other day. Shortly followed by 'those guys can't be real, I mean come on, what fucking psychos'
I just nodded and changed the subject. He's in the most beta relationship I can think of with a fat lazy bitch. He'll wake up on his own eventually, maybe. Oh well.
thefisherman1961 10y ago
He'll join us sooner or later. I know the denial phase when I see it.
mr_nate_ 10y ago
I've been hearing more and more stories about our fellow RP members getting the TRP rant dropped on them in their social circles. I almost WANT it to happen to me — just so I can chuckle on the inside.
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Ive had many many instances where people speak ill about the things red pill teaches, but not about it directly, it was a bit baffling because it was so obvious he had never even read a single thing on the sub and just immediately jumped to the same "neckbeard virgin basement dweller" conclusion everyone else seems to.
[deleted] 10y ago
Maybe it was a cry for help?
[deleted] 10y ago
No it was definitely just him trying to put down random subs that he disagrees with for seemingly no reason other than mental masturbation.
[deleted] 10y ago
" You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. "
For someone to become unplugged, he has to accept the reality that he has been lied to his entire life, by a lot of people that he has known for a long time. And that can be very, very hard.
feminazi_oppresor 10y ago
Blue Pill rule #1: Women are always the victim and can never be wrong
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feminazi_oppresor 10y ago
They would throw other SJW's under the bus to get ahead. One slip-up and they're going to pounce in order to look good in front women.
Their is no honor among thieves
CopperFox3c 10y ago
Everything in this world is about power. Even things that claim to not be about power, like feminism or SJWs or blue pill thinking, are really about power. Make no mistake.
Everything in the world is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power. - Oscar Wilde
Trpidation 10y ago
Goddamn Oscar Wilde was a fucking genius. I'm always surprised and impressed whenever I see new quotes from him. Incredibly insightful.
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To BP men everything is about pussy. They value pussy so much that they are more than willing to throw their own friends under the bus.
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StillRedder 10y ago
You need to make more flow(ish) charts like this! I'd award you a man point but I can't.
[deleted] 10y ago
BP guys are practically women with dicks so treat them like women and they won't pose too much of a problem.
[deleted] 10y ago
What a crock of shit. You won't be bending any matrix, but life will eventually bend you over, apply the lube, and bob your uncle, regardless of the pill.
RP sees reality with as much bias as any other of these pills. Bend the matrix.
chkethley 10y ago
Misleading title, but yeah for sure I agree. Don't treat BP men like women just think of them the same way. It is not RP to be condescending to other men just because they aren't as "alpha" as you are.
NeoreactionSafe 10y ago
When dealing with the Beta mind you need to craft your words carefully.
Here's a thought...
"To the Beta do not give answers, but insert the right questions."
Give him just enough pointers so that he has the clue to follow, but don't bring him all the way to the conclusion. Let him arrive at the conclusion and don't punish him for taking a while. We all have room to improve, so when your friend improves just be glad he did.
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NeoreactionSafe 10y ago
And questions are often constrained by language. So if your vocabulary is such that you aren't permitted to think outside of your emotional indoctrination patterns you likely will not figure out the question you need to ask.
One needs "open space".
First you must destroy the myth to create space. Then you ask the right question and let the person refill the space with his nature and through his own eyes.
The new reality is created using truth and that will not be broken.
J_AsapGem 10y ago
I realize this very thing, i use to drop a few RP hints at some of my BP friends and they started acting bitchy at me, people don't like being told what to do, let them come to their own conclusion like you said.
NeoreactionSafe 10y ago
If the Beta starts at 0 and you need him to get to 10, then you can't reveal a 9. You must start with 1 and see if he gets it, then 2, then 3 and so on.
You are already the teacher... so you are responsible for gradually revealing the truth.
[deleted] 10y ago
I would love to have some RP friends, but they're few and far between. I've got a few, but they're natural alphas who have been cool since the 4th grade, and while they don't buy into women playing the victim they don't give too much thought to social dynamics. The most RP sentence that will come out of their mouths will be, "all women are sluts, except my mom and grandma." Everything else will be apparent in attitude and actions only.
However, what you really need is a few RP tolerant friends. I've got plenty of those, and they're great to hang with compared to your typical SJW sympathizer. These guys aren't going to sit around and talk about social dynamics. They're not going to abandon their blue pill beliefs and start plating women. They're probably not even going to be willing to shell out for a gym membership to lift with you, but you can lay some hard RP truth on them and they'll be receptive. These guys will give me their phone when they get a match on Tinder and tell me to go to town. They don't get angry when I call their close friends sluts right to their faces, because they're smart enough to see she doesn't actually have a negative reaction to it. They don't get angry when I tell them they're being little bitches and that their girlfriends are losing respect for them. These are guys who, if they found TRP, would probably jump right in and hop straight to anger phase.
mr_nate_ 10y ago
I have two best friends that I've known since middle school — and for the past 4 or 5 years or so we regularly talk about bagging chicks and fitness and the like. It began as a pursuit to become the elusive alpha (note that this is probably 3 years prior to me finding TRP) by reading guides and books. I found TRP a little under a year ago, and shared it with these two several months ago.
I guess I'm the lucky minority — I have two friends who I regularly discuss TRP with, share methods and ideas, and support each other. You're not mistaken in wanting Red Pill friends. It really is wonderful.
DrPindaB 10y ago
I think RP friends are few and far between because they are busy being themselves, and not looking to be validated by anyone. BP guys need that validation. That's why they hang out with RP's. Alphas lead, betas follow. Its been natures way for a millennia. Keeping doing you big dog.
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I think that's looking into it too much. RP attitude =/= alpha actions. That takes time and dedication or a natural proclivity. By far the majority of "leaders" out there are natural alphas, and the majority of guys with a RP attitude are still working on achieving a RP life.
Plus, I think a man with a RP attitude would see the value in aligning himself with other RP guys. Alphas travel in packs. The world isn't split into a bunch of teams all with their own alpha leader. Instead, it is split into alpha and beta groups, and the alphas stick together for a mutually beneficial relationship.
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Around where I live I think a lot of RP guys are just few and far between.
RedPillDad 10y ago
I've indoctrinated a few of my trainers at the gym. They teach me fitness, and I share tips on "social dynamics" which are straight-up redpill. They're the only people I've met who categorically seem more capable of handling non-PC ideas.
Initially it was just verbal sharing, but lately I've selectively shared from my notes. One trainer is sharing some of the info with others who he recognizes as desperately needing guidance - otherwise successful guys who have suffered the bluepill inevitability of being completely fucked over by a woman.
Mofocheez 10y ago
Makes perfect sense. They are selling their services to people* who are too fat, lazy, and stupid to learn how to fitness on their own. The same kind of people who are not likely to see results, and thus exacerbate their own "personal training" needs.
*speaking on trainers for the masses... Obviously a small subculture actually benefits from them
[deleted] 10y ago
LMAO. Sadly watching my old buddy get mined by a crafty foreigner. I never explicitly called out his girl, but she's no fucking good and before he married her I told him I'd not judge if he dumped her before the marriage. I said if you have any hesitation, don't do it. He's a smart guy and is maybe doing the math thinking he can't get a better price for fine pussy (she is pretty hot and basically a sex toy, can't lie). Anyway, your story sounds pretty similar. She trashes me every chance she gets and he AMOGs me and blurts out things I told him in confidence over the course of +15 years, that makes me look like shit. Fuck it, hard nexted him. Hate to lose an old buddy with all our history, but it's fucking toxic for me.
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Damn it's like he doesn't care if he gets rocked in the face
vox_veritas 10y ago
heh...
NameOfAction 10y ago
My thoughts exactly. Thats some Bitch-ass shit.
The_Man_on_the_Wall 10y ago
So he's bitchmade. Not surprising.
Johnny10toes 10y ago
I don't get the backlash from talking RP ideas. Maybe it's because I'm older but I only get the occasional "You must hate women." thing. I'm also careful with what I say. Try to say it like it's an old maxim.
DontKnowMargo 10y ago
Agreed. I made the mistake of talking RP mindset with my sister (who is usually open-minded and supportive). Yea, the holidays are never boring.
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Being RP would necessitate that you automatically know it's a terrible idea to bring to your sister.
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UsernameIWontRegret 10y ago
Those are kind of stretching lessons learned.
I've been thinking this for a while. Don't treat other men like women, that's insulting to what they're capable of. Rather just have a general understanding of the fact that they are BP. If that bothers you, leave them alone. But don't try tricks on men that you'd pull on women. Keep in mind we are the truest when it comes to social relationships.
old-path 10y ago
this, recently i deflected from a bp friend during a brief tangent as if he was kinda rp, 'i can't be too upset at women for being demanding entitled princesses, these guys that cave to them just reinforce their being such since they rarely get called out on their bs' i was basicly refering to him but he agree'd with this statement. basicly a bp admiting on both accounts of sjw and sjw betas being a huge issue. the bp friend is a friend that i dont want to see suffer from being blue pilled. if you have bp friends and care about them, sneak in stealth doses of rp rather then hang them out to dry and just piss them off or worse, risk radicalizing them as BP to spite you. the whole point of trp is to enable men to realize and balance male-female dynamics heavily biased in womens favor, not elitist over the BP's.
atxmetalchef 10y ago
Middle aged man here. Don't give up the fight. 25 years ago there was no pill, only lessons to learn. I definitely would be better off with this info long ago.
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Trpidation 10y ago
That's a quick way to start issues, assuming he's a legit alpha. And if he's a legit alpha, you want him on your team more than anything.
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Trpidation 10y ago
Fair enough. What I've learned though is that if you stay on good terms with everyone, you never know if you'll see them again and could use their help to benefit yourself.
For instance, making a good connection with a dude at a bar may mean nothing at the time. But if you are in a business deal and it turns out he's one of the people with power on the other side, he could be the swaying factor in the deal; if you stepped to him at the bar vs. making a good acquaintance, it could mean no deal vs. deal, respectively. If his memory of you is "that's that cool dude from the bar", he'll be far more likely to help you out.
1Maverick1 10y ago
First off, I don't have a heart. Fuk emotions and all that noise. The way this theory works is through logical determination. I will tell whoever I want whatever I want regardless of what type of mentality they have. If people don't like or listen to what I say then that's their problem.
In this case it is wise to try and talk with your friend instead of waiting for them to talk with you. If they don't listen, at least you gave it a try.
That's unfortunate that you think only middle aged men are RP fluent. It is good to have a lot of different perspectives from a diverse group of people including age range.