It does, and it does not.

When I was skinny-fat, during my Blue Pill days, I wore expensive suits (work in corporate office) and blazers; and indeed I looked good and I was often complimented by women. Was my SMV higher because of that? Probably.

Today, after hitting the gym for 3+ years I have a body that I am proud of, I wear t-shits and I get complimented on my biceps and at times my shoulders and chest, there's "that" vertical line across the chest that shows even when wearing a t-shirt and the pecs sticking out. Anything looks good on me. Seriously.

There's a drawback to dressing too fashionable and/or wearing expensive-looking clothing: giving the impression that you are a BB provider and not an AF.

It's OK to borrow someone else's style, but be careful who you get inspired by and the image you portray of yourself. In the long run you want to develop your own signature style, which follows no fashion but it's yours and yours only.

I wear what I want because my physique stands out regardless.

Plus T-shirt and jeans are so functional. I clean up when I need to, I don't need to peacock myself.

This is definitely RP but it is SHORT TERM RP.

Heres the long term version:

Instead of investing your energy into choosing clothes, invest it into building yourself and your bank account. Then wear any shitty clothes you want to because YOU are the prize, not your fuckin clothes

Anecdotal support for the argument.

Jon generally dresses quite neat, not sharp, but shirts or collared t-shirts and polos over t-shirts, black work trousers rather than suits or jeans, smart shoes, wool coats, etc. If he chats to a random female in a casual setting (so a cashier, old coworker, someone we meet at a historic building) when we're out the focus is 100% on him. She will look him up and down, try and get to whatever side I'm not on (if I'm at his left then she will somehow navigate to his right), try and touch him, keep eye contact, direct all questions to him, just subtle signs she's receptive.

Last time he was a bit messier. He hadn't cut his hair yet, he was wearing the same trousers but with one of his favourite t-shirts and steel-toe boots, he hadn't shaved and was walking a little less upright due to a bit of an issue in his back. Every single female we spoke to (5) discounting an old coworker addressed me instead. They essentially asked why I was paying ("he's holding onto his wallet tight"), whether I found his behaviour rude or acceptable ("where did you get him? can't you send him back?"), etc.

In other words, take the fancy clothes off him and he doesn't become a low SMV male in their eyes, but he does become hard to read. When he's well-dressed he's desirable. He's tall, handsome, not too thin or fat (although not as muscled as he would like), not too young or too old, got a good sense of humour and confidence. So when he's well-dressed, I don't matter. I am just further proof he's good enough to get a female. Take away the smartness and instead of ignoring me and trying to attract him they first want to see what I think of him and why I'm with him. They want to know if he's a high-ranking Beta (using Delta as the marker for average) or into Alpha territory yet.

This is stupid.

You don't get cool by wearing someone else's clothes, this is high school logic.

Come up with your own style. What do you think looks good? Do something that other people aren't doing. Be your own man. I totally reject your idea of swagger jacking.

Alternatively, be a leader, not a follower. Sure, look to others for inspiration, but don't be a knockoff of someone else. Be the best version of YOURSELF, whatever that is. Oh, yeah, and wear clothes that fit you.

But obsessing about the clothes you're going to wear is for insecure bitches anyway. No one remembers what Napoleon wore when he conquered the known world.

How do you decide who you're going to model your "style" or fashion or whatever off of? Good idea, though, no shame in getting some help dressing better and getting a good look.

I can attest to the fact that dressing a little nicer can go a long way.

I live in a college town and when I go to the college bars I always dress up slightly. Hell, not even slightly, just like business casual.

See when all the other males are wearing raggedy ass pre stressed T shirts from urban outfitters (jesus christ who is the D bag that invented pre distressed?) and sneakers with fucking duct tape on them because someone told them its cool to look poor me showing up in deck shoes, pressed slacks, and a form fitting polo type shirt with my signature silver pocket watch/chain the girls take note.

You don't have to be the best dressed dude in the world, just the best dressed dude in the room.

Even the little things help. I can't spend $300 on gear but I can thrift better than any female on the planet. Of course I've been lifting for a year and whittling my fat ass down to size. I'm not yet at the point where I get that line from having good pecs....but at the same time all my existing clothes were baggy as hell.

I had the problem of downsizing my gear with little cash and knowing I was going to downsize again in another year.

I found that switching from baggy t-shirts to collared Dickies work shorts that actually fit closely makes a huge difference. Little things, like the seam where your sleeve meets the main part of the shirt actually rests on your shoulder instead of 2 inches down your arm. ...or the front of your shirt hanging low enough to where your belly doesn't stick out when you raise your arms....these things do wonders.

I'm actually waiting until I reach further fitness goals before I spend extra money on nicer gear. I'd love to get into suits again (had an Armani when I was in my 20s). But that's going to be a while.

And I'm sort of doing what OP is recommending here. I'm a heavy metal guy and I was at a show one time....singer from one of the opening bands was this chubby dude with dreads....cargo shorts, tennis shoes, and aforementioned work shirt with a band logo tastefully sewn over the pocket.

I admit I totally jacked this dude's style because he had a similar body type (chubby but not as fat as I was at the time), face shape, and hair (dreads). But he knew how to wear shit that fits and kept his swagger. So, yeah, what OP says but you might pick an example of someone with a comparable body type and face shape.

TL;DR... every little bit helps. Even if you can't dress high dollar you can have style on the cheap by making little changes.

Ok - I just need to know where this is possible

I spent about $300, got 6 shirts, 4 pants, and 2 pairs of nice shoes

Man - just getting a nice pair of shoes is roughly a 100 bucks. Hell - even getting knock off brooks brothers shirts is 50 or 60. Where do I go online or in person to buy that kinda volume?

All facts, dressing nicely automatically makes you look a lot better. Even women will agree to this logic.

Just want to pop in to say that gay men are the best barbers and wardrobe helpers. Mostly my own personal experience, but most of guy friends agree that gay men know what looks nice on a man, and they are a man themselves, so they know what's comfortable. Gay men are usually in touch with this sort of stuff.

This topic is incredibly underrated. Swagger jacking; a short-cut solution to finding out how you can make yourself a better looking dude, by observing a tried-tested-true or tried-tested-failed version of your potential future self on mass media.

Being able to dress appropriately is not something men should take lightly. It takes 5 seconds for a girl to make up their mind about you. Girls will judge you on your clothes. This ain't no secret. They see what shoes you wear. They see the cut of clothing you use to see how it fits your body. The more put-together you appear, the more 'able' they figure you are able to provide for them. All that shit.

Comming from one who took the red pill just yesterday but still have an interest in style and fashion I recommend checking looklive.com. Site shows and inform what celeb recently have worn, name of items and cheaper alternatives. I for example really like David Beckham and have bought off pieces which he rocked.

I wear a lot of vintage. I am often stopped on the street by strangers complimenting my clothes, even when I was a fat fuck. The main thing is to have style, more than being fashionable.

Actually you probably acted more confident and felt better after you bought the clothes and got the haircut. That's what the girls responded to. Just wait a couple weeks and you'll be the same guy with the new clothes.

Its a temporary boost in your self perceived value but is built on a weak foundation that never lasts.

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I agree. Find a guy that you resemble somewhat. As a white male, dressing like Dwayne Johnson wouldn't work for me.

Also scour social media of the women you are around, see what pictures they post and drool over. For my area Charlie Hunnam and David Beckham are on top usually. This of course is for my demographic, and easy to obtain for the most part.

Also keep in mind you are using styling cues from them to improve YOU, not just copying.

Thanks for the post.

Once you lose the ego that's when dreams become possible. I'm making 15k a month passive income from my assets because I was willing to be humble, find a mentor, and bust my butt for 5 years.

Good idea. I've still got some body stuff to work on but when I get that taken care of this is going to help me.

This thread is stupid as fuck. Good luck looking like Johnny Depp rocking a fedora. That's where the m'lady guys get it from. Just wear shit that fits and own it.

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