So your country is finally going full retard.
This is a very nice example how the femitards and SJWs are used by machiavellian lobbyists to pursue their agendas.
The results of a total bullshit study are thankfully picked up and spread by the leftist idiots until the point, where the public percieves it to be a fact, and then right-wing gun lunatics use this development to underline their demand to legalize guns on campuses.
The good thing is, that you don't have to worry about getting full consent from a girl you are fucking any more. You won't have to say that much to the police after a 9mm has been fired at your dome. The states will also save much money, since there won't be that many legal cases any more.
"Well, I was drunk, and after he started to penetrate my pussy I suddenly thought about my boyfriend and that made me feel bad. So I decided he was raping me and fired the whole clip at his face." - "Self defense. Case closed."
What a great idea.

cock_pussy_up 11y ago
As far as I can tell rape is very uncommon on college campuses. I don't have US stats, but recently released numbers from Canadian universities show that sexual assaults are very uncommon there.
The university with the highest number of reported sex assaults was Ryerson. It had a total of 57 reported from 2009 to 2013. That's an average of 14.25 sex assaults a year. The university has about 24,000 full time students.
Let's say half of them (12,000) are female and all the sex assault victims were female. In 4 years, less than 0.5% of the university's female population was (allegedly) sexually assaulted.
Also remember that in Canada "sexual assault" can mean anything from Ariel Castro kidnapping women and raping and beating them in his basement for 10 years, to a creepy nerd giving a sorority girl an unwanted hug after doing her homework.
My point is, rape is very rare on Canadian university campuses, despite the hysteria campaign. The same is probably true of the USA.
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The most recent DOJ report says 1/166. Not sure if that's campus or the general population but since campus is better off than the general population, that's the worst the number could possibly be.
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
Its honestly them just trying to get the more emotionally minded voters on board with this since they tend to think the other way. At the same time not many women will carry a gun even if they can. They like to think they can be one of the guys, but when it comes to them actually doing something difficult to defend themselves they will most likely just leave it to the boys. A few may break the mold, and those who do are usually rational enough to do gun ownership right.
aguy01 11y ago
The opposition wants girls to get raped! Don't vote for them!
MrZigler 11y ago
HUG??!!
Just having the wrong face is enough now:
http://reason.com/blog/2015/02/19/male-student-banned-from-campus-because
weiry6922 11y ago
That's actually infuriating. What the actual fuck
MrZigler 11y ago
Do a Google search on this..... the article I linked is watered down hard.
blambox 11y ago
Almost certainly reed college.
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Are college girls even interested in carrying a gun? I'm not an American but I'd assume that of all demographics, they would probably be least interested, no? And I assume that this suggestion is not meant to persuade anyone of the anti-gun fraction anyways.
So I'd assume that this is rather a political message directed at those who are already pro-gun, perhaps at the girls' dads, who are concerned because they read so many bad stories about sexual harassment at university. Or maybe it's just the usual pro-gun debate attached to some arbitrary current issue of the public debate, like campus' rapes, just to have a reason to position yourself as an upcoming politician.
Philhelm 11y ago
Most young women seem to be irrationally terrified of firearms.
SenorPuff 11y ago
It's their nature. Power is scary unless they can latch onto it.
TK-85 11y ago
The "all the girls are going to shoot everyone blindly" type of reaction is the product of liberal anti-gun indoctrination that many have endured for a couple decades. If this were to pass, the majority of the girls arming up will likely be girls who have prior experience with firearms, or ones who have firearms already. A lot of girls don't fit that category.
I see this as a huge win of it were to pass. Pro-gun culture in the heart of a leftist training center can pay dividends in a few years.
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TK-85 11y ago
Then why aren't they doing this already then? There isn't a whole lot of female advocacy for gun ownership that could be considered widespread. Guns didn't just become a form of power this year, they always have been.
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they can shirk it, and they do. They face less time for murder as well as any other crime. But they cannot shirk it entirely, you're right. 20 years as les-chow still sucks.
TK-85 11y ago
Well, that merely supports my claim then, that women won't 1) suddenly start mass arming themselves on campus and 2) won't randomly start killing people in some spectacular fashion.
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When I read about "stand your ground" laws and cases like Zimmerman, I I get the impression that responsibility is a pretty flexible concept in this regard.
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Yeah, but in such a case the accusation itself would be more than enough. Women do not need to physically annihilate their adversaries as men do. For most women, ruining your life is good enough. The state as the Uber-Beta will take care of the rest. - This is btw. the main reason I can think of why women don't seem to care about carrying a gun to college.
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TK-85 11y ago
And you never will. Your cultural history doesn't have the same level of individual independence throughout it. That's not a knock, it simply is what it is. At the same time, a lot of Americans don't understand why foreigners have no interest in being able to effectively defend themselves in an obviously dangerous world with untrustworthy governments providing the default protection.
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
That's retarded, small knifes are not effective self-defense tools, especially in the hands of women. Guns however are the most effective means of self-defense.
http://imgur.com/dXh5ugz
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 11y ago
I think this is an example of "dog whistle politics" that is VERY unlikely to come to pass, so I'm not going to invest much thought in it for now.
Personally, I think teaching young women situational awareness and some self-defense skills would do far more good with virtually no harm; hard for me to make that case about mass-arming 18yo women.
Some youtube videos of young women getting knocked over and/or face bloodied by recoil belong with this topic. They are plentiful.
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WoahScienceCool 11y ago
Ok.... Why dont you tell your wife to quit being such an idiot?
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rebuildingMyself 11y ago
Next move for feminists: only women can be armed
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SenorPuff 11y ago
Exactly. The key point here is the left backed themselves into a corner by adopting the façade that high percentages of women are raped. Now, if they actually believe this, they ought to do everything to defend all women all the time.
They have to choose whether or not defending women who they claim are in danger is worth more than keeping guns out of people's hands. They can't use the 'think of the children' approach they do to semi-automatic guns because a) women aren't going to be concealing those in purses and b) this is about college campuses, not primary or high schools.
It was an excellent political maneuver that was only allowed because the left had abandoned reason in favor of fear mongering in both cases. Now the right is forcing them to say one is worse than the other. Backtracking on women would be political suicide as women and feelings are the major advantage the left has, but giving up guns is a huge concession against the rest of their base.
The left trolled the feels too hard, and now they're fucked.
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Lol you're so fucking right, you deconstructed this perfectly. Fuck them, caught their dumbasses in a their double lie horseshit.
redpillshadow 11y ago
No, it is your German leftist anti-gun indoctrination which makes you react with irrational anger to the proposition.
Good short primer on homicide rates and gun control (also take a peek at Switzerland) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
nzgs 11y ago
I'm British and we have the same leftist indoctrination endemic in society here. The most normal-minded individuals who claim to support freedom and justice suddenly turn into foaming-mouthed fascist lunatics at the prospect of a victim being "allowed" to defend body and property. It's drummed into us from an early age that we must love and trust the nanny state.
leftajar 11y ago
Here's another fantastic one: Stefan Molyneux destroys gun control in 47 seconds
leftajar 11y ago
Everybody, do yourself a favor and watch this video. Bill Whittle is one of the best voices in rational political policy.
redpillshadow 11y ago
Bill said in one of his recent videos that the above is his most popular video as of yet. Someone ripped it from youtube and put it on facebook where it got over 3,000,000 views.
He isn't red pilled in terms of TRP though.
vandaalen 11y ago
Yeah. It surely is my "leftist indoctrination" which prevents me from acknowledging that it's a good idea to allow young people without any proper training to wear guns in an enviroment where they party, get drunk and take drugs.
Now that you say it even arming women, irrational beings, who make their decisions based on their feelings and lack even the tiniest bit of self-control, in such an enviroment, doesn't seem like the most retarded idea after granting them voting rights anymore.
In my opinion, we should also start arming kindergarten-children.
I am not against the right to bear arms. In fact I even hate my government for the fact that it's next to impossible for me to get one for myself legally.
redpillshadow 11y ago
Those irrational beings slaughter daily outside of colleges where they are in fact allowed to have guns... And last time I checked alcohol, bars and parties do exist outside of the college campus.
I don't know where you pull "without any proper training" from.
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
You just proved his point with this incredibly ignorant reply.
In order to carry a gun in Florida, you need a license, which has background checks and training as a requirement. Secondly, its illegal for people to carry while intoxicated in just about every state, and even if its not illegal, it will be used against you if you fuck up, and people know that.
Now you are being an obtuse cunt. This isn't even equivalent to what we are talking about.
sitedenich 11y ago
Congratz on having a lower homicide rate than 3rd world countries.
Oh, and if we handpick one our wealthiest city's homicide rate (because why the fuck not even if it makes 0 sense) we would be barely below most European countries.
But what sold me was the cool fire animations and the great ending theme.
An argument can be made that gun ownership isnt necessarily positively correlated with the homicide rate, but this video is plain stupid.
Newdist2 11y ago
American demographics are approaching 50% third world. European countries are at worst 10% third world. Of course our crime rate is going to be much higher than Europe.
redpillshadow 11y ago
Regular at askhamsters and france. The video really angered you that much that it made you ragepost on trp. Looks like deep down you know the message is right on the money.
sitedenich 11y ago
There is no anger. But yeah, ad hominem attacks are surely the way to go.
If you think this video does a great job presenting evidence that gun ownership is negatively correlated with homicide rates then your critical thinking is non-existent.
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redpillshadow 11y ago
If someone wants to carry a gun illegally around what kind of law do you think will stop him?
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
I don't agree with what you are saying, but I upvoted you anyway, because you seem rather open minded for an Australian.
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Implying you can't just build your own smg(google lutty smg). Also consider this: The lutty smg can be built with standard hardwareshop supplies. Imagine what one could build with a machine shop.
Anyways real psychopaths go for flamethrowers.
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redpillshadow 11y ago
I'm German living in Germany.
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LambdaMale 11y ago
Well, it's complicated. When the political spectrum was defined, national socialism wasn't a thing and it really fits nowhere in the old spectrum. They just took over the right and became the new definition of right. In terms of their policies they were all over the place. Just look at the name National SOCIALIST German WORKER'S Party.
alclarkey 11y ago
Let me ask you a question. Would you rather be raped in the ass dry by a big black man, or a big white man?
nzgs 11y ago
NO. National socialism was very far-left. Please do not correct people when you are misinformed. Hitler was a Marxist activist in the German Workers Party, committed to undermining German capitalism and economic competition, which he saw as being run by jews. It was FUNDAMENTALLY left-wing, from the state control of businesses, to the censorship of media, bullying and intimidation of intellectuals, centralisation of powers, state-undermining of free markets, militarisation of police, disarming of civilians and of course shaming and imprisoning of political opponents (sound familiar?). It was pure Leftism with Hitler's twist of needing the jews as the symbol of his capitalist enemy, and his racial superiority complex. Later in his life he distanced himself from Marxism because he saw it as tolerant of the jews.
The greatest achievement of the Left in the 20th century was to re-write history with Hitler as a right-winger in all school textbooks, allowing the Left to wash its hands of its history and re-brand itself as Progressivism.
king_of_red_alphas 11y ago
"from the state control of businesses, to the censorship of media, bullying and intimidation of intellectuals, centralisation of powers, state-undermining of free markets, militarisation of police, disarming of civilians and of course shaming and imprisoning of political opponents (sound familiar?). "
Yes. It does sound familiar. Because all totalitarian regimes left, right or theocratic use to assert power. You are plugged in if you believe this left - right dogma.
Lol @ anti-intellectualism being a "left" wing trait.
Rodion-Raskolnikov 11y ago
Absolutely not. National Socialism is known as 'Third Position' - Full authoritarian, but neither economic left nor right. Go to www.politicalcompass.org.
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Wow. While it is true that all totalitarian ideologies have some aspects in common (those aspects that you consider "left-wing"), calling Hitler a left-winger is just wrong and overtly ideological. Then you might just as well call Nixon and Reagan communists just because they supported minimum wage or basic income.
Edit. If you don't believe me, read up on what Hitler himself thought about left-wingers.
LambdaMale 11y ago
One of the strongest tenets of socialism/communism is the rule of the people, while national socialism has an absolute leader. A king without divine blessing, basically. All this left/right stuff is just muddy waters, because most left examples are from communist dictatorships, who are not traditionally "left" and fascism occupied the right and replaced what used to be "right".
Philhelm 11y ago
I prefer the Nolan chart which adds an additional axis of statism vs. individualism.
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I really, highly doubt that girls in the middle of sex are just going to start firing guns at people all of the sudden over guilt now. Spoiler alert: nothing is stopping college girls from doing this now or doing it in the past, it's not like they just earned the right to carry guns....and it has never been an issue, like literally at all. Some Republican lawmaker is not going to suddenly make every girl in America wish she had a 9 mil on her hip. Also, carrying on campus doesn't mean shit, most people don't have sex in the middle of campus, they have sex in their apartment or house, which, in America, you are already fully able to own a gun at, and like I said before, it is not an issue. A lot of women carry mace or tasers, and you don't see a plethora of cases of guys minding their own business and getting tased or maced for absolutely no reason.
Mountains out of molehills, my friend.
KyfhoMyoba 11y ago
There are statutes declaring that almost all US campuses are gun-free zones. Unless you are a cop.
Or a rapist that chooses not to obey the gun laws or the rape laws.
nzgs 11y ago
You're coming across like the SJW actually. It seems perfectly reasonable that people should arm themselves to protect their own safety, and it's a large reason why campuses are often targeted for shootings since no one will shoot back.
I definitely support any policy that holds individuals responsible for their safety rather than this progressive idea that we should rely on a nanny state to prevent rapes from occurring. It would also make it much more difficult for a woman to falsely accuse a man of rape if she is perfectly capable of resisting an attack by using her gun. It would drastically reduce the occurrence of real rapes and false-accusations, which is a win-win.
If you're still brainwashed by left-wing politics then you aren't red pill.
king_of_red_alphas 11y ago
You sound brainwashed by the right wing to be honest.
Schools are targeted in shootings because they are often the source and symbol of alienation for young frustrated males with no coping skills.
LambdaMale 11y ago
No, it would not. The gun is going to be in her purse, where it is no good. Same place mace and knives are now.
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
Not every girl purse carries.
nzgs 11y ago
A gun in a purse is a better defence than no gun. Your argument is as asinine as arguing that guns in houses are stored in safes and locked cupboards and therefore aren't useful, when we know for a fact that streets with high gun-ownership enjoy less petty crime, whether or not individual houses are protected. That danger of retaliation is the only deterrent criminals care about.
Personally I want to live in a world where every victim of serious crime has the opportunity to defend themselves, male or female, without being robbed of that opportunity by self-righetous SJWs.
king_of_red_alphas 11y ago
Explain to me how this doesn't devolve into an all out arms race if everybody is armed.
LambdaMale 11y ago
Houses are a very different situation. Just think about that practically for a second and not through your ideological haze.
Ah, sorry, I see now. I mistook you for misguided, but you are a gun troll.
alclarkey 11y ago
Any woman who cared enough about her saftey to buy a gun would spend some time getting it right: http://thewellarmedwoman.com/women-and-guns/concealed-carry
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SenorPuff 11y ago
As a born and bred country boy, liberal city girls definitely get tingles when they see you have a 'dangerous killing machine' although their words won't admit it. They'll shit test you, try to make you out to be a coward hiding behind a gun, all the same shit they'd do for some other reason to vet you as a mate. But boy do they snuggle up close once you pass.
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
Campus carry isn't retarded, and most girls aren't going to bother anyway. Its mainly going to be taken advantage of by the people who are older and have to commute through the ghetto to get to college.
Also believing in all the gun control bullshit is blue pill as fuck, and I can't believe this shit is getting posted here.
Belerion 11y ago
Fortunately, a perfect shit storm is unlikely to result from this. The desire to arm everyone comes from the right wing, while the excessive false rape accusations and ridiculous 'yes means yes' laws are pretty exclusively left wing, so I wouldn't get your panties in a bunch yet. Democrats would never consent to having loads of guns floating around on campuses.
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They call it, "Rape Culture." WHY? well.. Like Bacteria in yogurt, you have to culture it for it to grow...
So keep on culturing that rape that never actually happens.
BrunoOh 11y ago
If those girls are responsible, have had gun training and aren't retards, I have no objections. But we all know that isn't going to be the case.
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Yeah. Considering the type of girls we're talking about, I definitely don't think that rational responsible gun use could ever be a reality.
grimreaperx2 11y ago
Then we wouldn't be in this situation. Drunk sex wouldn't be rape, it would be a stupid mistake both the girl and guy have to deal with. I mean if they really want to reduce that chances of that happening, don't allow alcohol.
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I honestly believe people are either to stupid and/or too emotional to have guns. That said everyone should have the right of a gun. People will die. But I'd rather play with guns anyway.
TarBabies 11y ago
Dude lemme tell you, you're right. I work at a high customer volume gun store, 90% of the people buying them are idiots. I think we need to implement an IQ test in the DROS process.
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redpillerinnyc 11y ago
How about having high enough IQ to know the difference between bear and bare?
TarBabies 11y ago
You'd be correct if our votes meant anything outside of local municipalities.
TheRedTrader 11y ago
Why don't they mean anything?
aguy01 11y ago
Oh boy. Sexual strategy is just the first level of the rabbit hole.
vengefully_yours 11y ago
Because in the elections that count, we don't get a real choice outside of the evil we prefer. One or the other, picked from bankers, lawyers, and business types who have their own agenda that doesn't include the will of the people (XL pipeline for example) or the benefit of the people. Most are there to make money, and make it easier to make money above a certain income bracket. Doesn't matter which party they represent, they are all like that.
The left is going after guns, criminalizing masculinity, the right has already trashed the 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments with the Patriot Act, along with incarcerating men for crimes designed to do exactly that such as weed prohibition and false rape claims. Destroy the mans life at any cost, because men are the ones who can effect a change in our government and end the gravy train.
TarBabies 11y ago
"Because men are the ones who can effect a change in our government and end the gravy train."
This. Exactly this.
DonArturo 11y ago
"Democracy is the worship of jackals by jackasses." ― H.L. Mencken
TheRedTrader 11y ago
Everyone could vote for an independent though. Intelligent people are powerless due to the masses who are controlled (just like in the markets) by fear and greed.
I posited the question to illustrate that is in fact due to the low intelligence of the electorate that they are so easily manipulated against their own best interests. Until robots can replace all low skilled jobs (which will be soon but not quite yet) the herd still has allot of power collectively, they just don't know it.
vengefully_yours 11y ago
An independent banker, lawyer, or business man. Like the tea party which is for the benefit of the Koch brothers. Even better idea. You're spot on about the citizenry. So easy to lead around.
mykonos_rm 11y ago
dude, most billionaires back liberal candidates and that's a fact. I'll take Koch over Tom Steyer and Nanny Bloomberg any day. Either way, its a dog a pony show and both sides couldn't give a fuck about us.
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get_real_quick 11y ago
I enjoy wearing t-shirts and have never felt more dangerous than when my guns are out (no pun intended)
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cock_pussy_up 11y ago
Guns' defensive value is limited, since people who carry guns get murdered regularly. They're good for offence (shooting/killing people), but not always good for defence.
The most useful girl-with-a-gun self-defence scenario I can think of would be a girl being followed by an assailant down a dark street and pulling the gun to scare him away.
But in real life, most sexual assaults take place when a women are intoxicated at parties or in hotels with one or more men. A gun probably isn't going to help the chick when she's semi-conscious, naked, and getting pounded by 5 douche bros from the football team at a house party.
jjakers88 11y ago
Your first paragraph has got to be one of the most retarded things I've ever seen on reddit
BluepillProfessor 11y ago
Yep, especially when she is lying back screaming: Fuck me, oh God, fuck me! Letting girls carry guns would expose the lie your post perpetuates.
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Therefore it should be illegal to carry? I'm not following the logic.
cock_pussy_up 11y ago
I didn't say guns should be illegal, I'm saying that a person wouldn't necessarily have a chance to use their gun in self-defence if they're already being attacked.
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
There are at least 500,000 defensive gun uses annually in the US. That dwarfs the number of homicides by firearm, and even out numbers the number of offenses committed by firearm.
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Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
What does age have to do with anything? If anything the number would be higher now because more people carry now.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2013/06/handguns_suicides_mass_shootings_deaths_and_self_defense_findings_from_a.html
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Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
Yeah, here is another, from Cook and ludwig.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/12/bruce-w-krafft/david-frum/
A lot of people like to trash those studies because they rely on self-reporting, but its all baseless conjecture.
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GV19 11y ago
Disregard everything someone says before but.
cellularresp 11y ago
"I'm super pro gun but...", "I'm an avid hunter but...", "I'm pro 2nd amendment but..." -every gun grabber ever
jjakers88 11y ago
Every time. "I'm a hunter - I have 1762 flintlock from my great grandfather" therefore I'm qualified to take away your rights.
Libertarian-Party 11y ago
Im pro 14th amendment but i think jim crow laws keep us safer
BrunoOh 11y ago
Guns aren't the problem. Hell, people with guns aren't the problem. It's retards with guns that are the problem. And I really see no way to solve that.
I'm neither pro or against guns myself. It isn't an issue where I live (The Netherlands), and I quite like it that way. I think America's obsession with firearms is rather weird. Most people are idiots (remember that law - 90% of everything is shit?) that I wouldn't want to have a gun. I'm inclined to think anti-gun would work out best.
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
We don't have an obsession with guns. Leftist have an obsession with public safety, and we are grown enough to know its bullshit and fight back. They then turn that fervor of defense for a liberty into "omg wuh wuhnt you compromise?"
CapnDancyPants 11y ago
Lots of things are wrong to point a gun at someone for...but just having his own? The enforcement of a gun ban would be less hypocritical if enforced with blades and bows...still violent though.
PokeChopSandwiches 11y ago
The same exact retards that own guns also drive cars. Both can be deadly weapons. Cars are much more cause for concern, considering how many people they kill daily. And yet here we are, talking about guns.
I am comfortable with the minuscule odds of suffering a violent gun death as an affluent white male living in a nice area. I much prefer this addition to my likelihood of an early death, than to the alternative, only police and government possessing firearms.
Every single day I am barraged with the opinions of Europeans about how untrustworthy our police and government here are in the US. How brutal and trigger happy cops are. And in the same breath they also opine that citizens legally owning firearms is also a bad idea. Really? If you lived in the US would you be happy giving up your firearms to the government? To live in a country where these cops are the only ones armed? Fuck that noise.
Now I realize your opinion is much less harsh and more rational than this. This is not the same for many of your peers. No fucking way is it a good idea for US cops and the U.S. Government to be the only ones legally armed.
Also, I much prefer hunting for my own meat, it tends to taste better and saves me a ton of money. Hunting is huge in the US. Extremely common as soon as you leave the big cities. This is another factor.
killcat 11y ago
Its fairly hard to conceal a car :)
Newdist2 11y ago
Europe has less gun violence than America.... if you don't count the tens of millions of Europeans killed by European governments during WW1 and WW2.
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Newdist2 11y ago
...and that number is nothing compared to the number of Europeans killed in European wars.
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BrunoOh 11y ago
Not necessarily taking them away, but more restrictions and regulations are the best (read: not perfect or ideal- best) solution.
I'm somewhat siding with Michael Moore on this issue. That is, I think it is mostly a cultural problem. But I have no problem at all with responsible people owning guns. Just with the idiots.
Philhelm 11y ago
I know some have complained of the so-called "rightwing" slant that has been brought to the Red Pill, but frankly it isn't very manly to use a third-party proxy (government) to make the scary world supposedly safer by restricting individual freedom. The world is not safe and I promise you that you will die. The difference is that I would at least allow you to possess whatever tools you think you need to get by.
Also, most women are irrationally terrified of firearms, so I do not foresee drunken sorority girls getting in firefights.
CapnDancyPants 11y ago
Of course they're terrified. It might equalize their hypergamy prospects.
FLFTW16 11y ago
TO use similar words you used: "Gun regulations aren't the problem. Hell, gun restrictions aren't the problem. It's retards that write the regulations and restrictions that are the problem. And I really see no way to solve that."
There have been a lot of cases of law abiding, tax-paying citizens getting slammed by unfair laws. I recall one where a soldier returning from Iraq had a few spent shells in the bottom of his luggage, he was charged for it. There are many many many instances of zero tolerance laws and encroaching legislation that erodes freedom.
Remember, we don't live in a sane world with sane countries with sane people making sane laws. One day it may be against the law for a racist to own a gun. Or a misogynist. Since the government has all of our emails and phone calls logged they can retroactively put people on a list and apply their regulations via algorithm.
Right now there are millions of Americans on the governments' no fly list. The vast majority didn't do a fuckin' thing wrong. Sometimes they just shared a name with someone who was suspected of something and monitored a decade ago. They only find out that they can't fly on a plane when they go to the airport having paid for a flight. The same thing can happen to our gun rights if people don't watch like a HAWK on that issue. The government is always a hop, skip, and a jump away from very scary shit. The people must be armed in order that the government belong to the people and not the people to the government.
Limekill 11y ago
Sorry dude, you might be TRP Endorsed but this is just bullshit.
The Government is owned by Corporations. And if you own the economy then you own pretty much everything (because you need to buy food). The Government has been captured by big business (the Mega Banks - JPMorgan; Oil - Texaco; Aircraft/Defence - Boeing; Communications - Comcast/Fox, etc; Hell - even tech companies (apple) and owning a gun is not going to change shit. How is a gun going to stop a free trade agreement being signed? It's not. How does a gun stop some US Governor allowing some big corporation dumping toxic waste in -your- groundwater? It's not.
And if you believe Government is for the people, well friend you are correct, mainly because the US supreme court has decided that corporations are people too....
Everyone is so focused on the Government they don't realise they are taking it up the ass for these big multinationals every single day of their lives these are the guys who really screw your life up... I just don't understand the mindset myself.
I mean you want to see a place where people can really overthrow the Government - goto Iceland. Now those guys actually forced the whole Government to resign without even firing a gun. Plus a whole lot of Bankers got jailed....
Dark-Ulfberht 11y ago
Are you trying to . . .occupy the Red Pill?
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
We could just shoot the people as they are dumping toxic waste on to our property. The problem is not that guns are incapable of fixing those problems, just that people are unwilling to use them that way.
BrunoOh 11y ago
Because we can't do something perfectly, we shouldn't bother at all? How defeatist.
CapnDancyPants 11y ago
Yeah, gun violence is a problem in the USA where the things are banned, not so much where allowed.
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
You are missing the point, this wont only not be perfect, it will be completely ineffective at actually lowering murder and violent crime. Nothing proposed by anyone over here will even make a dent in our crime, it is just designed to make gun ownership suck more, because our leftists are a bunch of catty spoiled children.
nzgs 11y ago
For the anti-gun crowd. There are 2.5 million gun-related self-defences recorded by police every year in the USA (1992 Florida University study). There are around 300k-400k gun crimes in the USA every year. If you can honestly investigate these facts and you fail to change your views on gun control then you are irrational.
Shotgun_Sentinel 11y ago
Those are not recorded by police, there are only 100,000 reported DGUs annually. That 500k-2.5 million number is mostly unreported estimates.
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It's already defacto legal to shoot a man in his sleep. Nothing new here
[deleted] 11y ago
lol still shocked at this. it's...yeah. where's battered man syndrome? where's emotionally abused man disease?
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BluepillProfessor 11y ago
This is not bad advice and would instantly get rid of the "rape culture" nonsense and at least make them admit that almost all "rapes" are committed AFTER the girl takes off all her clothes, sucks a mean dick, and then lays back begging to be taken. Then later she changes her mind. Col Colt isn't going to help in that scenario but in the common rape fantasy of a tall dark stranger grabbing them suddenly in a dark alley- well the saying is that God made man and women- Col Colt made them equal..
[deleted] 11y ago
lol you'd love my Crim Procedure teacher, I'm gonna ask him what he thinks of assault on a female laws on monday.
[deleted] 11y ago
What is this, some anti-gun fear mongering bullshit?
Women who conceal carry don't generally go around shooting random people in the dome, thanks for playing.
king_of_red_alphas 11y ago
Is like to have a tactical nuke with nothing more than a background check. Why can't I?
vengefully_yours 11y ago
I am pro gun, but I'm also anti stupidity. Training and education would go a long way to make the world safer. Being afraid of guns doesn't help anyone, and like it or not the law of the land says I can own them. Without guns the weak would be prey for the strong. The only thing making others nearly equal to me in self defense if I want what they have is them having a firearm. Byte time the cops get there I could have my way with your wife after beating you senseless, have a smoke, then flip her over for seconds. If you want to give up your means of defense against someone with my capabilities, training, experience, and strength, you're welcome to do so.
Gun free zones don't work, because anyone who is intent on killing people won't give a fuck if it's legal since if caught for murder bigger problems await, and they know everyone is unarmed. You don't see mass shooting at gun shows for a reason, but you see them on college campuses and in schools.
However, just giving guns to girls is a bad idea. With proper training in safety and use it gets better, but giving girls guns to ward off rape based on the 1 in 4 bullshit statistics won't solve any problems. Drunks and guns are a bad combination, and we all know how girls are when drunk. If they can't be responsible for their actions when drinking, how the fuck can they be responsible with firearms?
Both my daughters know how to shoot, my 20 year old is nearly as good as I am with a rifle. They were educated about my weapons when they weren 4 and 6, had loaded shotguns and rifles around them the entire time they lived with me, and are safe as well as competent with firearms. Most girls are clueless about weapons, afraid of them, and would be afraid to use it. Then you get into the sticky area of knowing when to use it, and when not to.
This is one of those emotional things, arming only the girls. Sexist too since men are still being treated as rapists in waiting, already guilty just waiting for opportunities.
DonArturo 11y ago
Amen; and kudos to you, sir, for raising your daughters to be unafraid of and competent with firearms. Your comment reminded me of the pertinent essay Why the Gun is Civilization:
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That being said, as a man I do not like to rely on the government to protect me. I think guns should be allowed on campus so that the non-criminals (like myself) can use self defense. If the current policy (banning guns on campus) worked, there would be no shootings.
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zifht 11y ago
I guess the ugly little girls dont need guns
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MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 11y ago
Guns on campus and in the frat parties, can't see that going wrong in any way...
masturbator9000 11y ago
If that happens I'm gonna walk around in full kevlar gear on campus all the time.
NightwingTRP 11y ago
I really shouldn't laugh so hard at this because it's accurate. Of course, in addition to this... we know all of them will get guns because "hottie cheerleader has one, and I'm a big beautiful woman (reality: 2/10) and I'm totally going to get raped otherwise, so I'd better get a gun."
Next time on America does the stupidest things, we'll be examining how the 2/10 shot a guy in self defence because she wanted to stop the "stare rape."
Surf_Or_Die 11y ago
Yeah. Guns on a college campus. What could go wrong?
WeCantHaveFun 11y ago
This is the trouble that fucking a "normal" bitch will get you.
[deleted] 11y ago
Wait the republican politician is responding to the bullshit study and it's the leftist side's fault somehow? Maybe it's the republican politician's fault? This post makes no sense.
Downvotes but no rebuttals. Since when did this become 2xc?
WoahScienceCool 11y ago
"Since when did this become 2xc?"
If you actually are a leftist, perhaps that where you belong.
Btw youre getting downvoted because OP is attacking the right, not the left like you claimed. It is your post that makes no sense.
vandaalen 11y ago
I am attacking neither. I don't even believe in left and right, but just use these words because people wouldn't even understand a thing otherwise.
It seems like somehow mentioning guns automatically lowers the IQ of US-Americans, no matter what political side they count themselves to and it prevents them from reading and comprehending the read sentences properly.
It's just hilarious and absurd what's happening in this threat.
DonDraperisTRP 11y ago
TRP is a conservative circle jerk board unfortunately ..
WoahScienceCool 11y ago
Says the guy with Don Draper in his username...
king_of_red_alphas 11y ago
Indeed it is. It's one of the things I have to just hold my nose about the sub. The tendency to get hard on for Fox-esque talking points to me isn't red pill at all. It is just identity politics gone wild.
To be fair TRP is less "conservative" and more "libertarian".
Many of the posters do sound like they are dogmatically parroting the Tea Party, Ayn Rand and see communism in their corn flakes.
What it has to do with "sexual strategy" I have no idea.
DonDraperisTRP 11y ago
I think most on here just assume and stereotype that all left leaning progressives are all ultra super feminists or something .